The Booze Thread.

[Blueskies]

Not necessarily TVL... in my case, my reasons listed are called 'ah-ha' indicators.

Attractive -- This is the basis for initial interest. There isn't anything shallow about it, just the way humans are wired instinctively.

His own place -- Means he is supporting himself, or at least trying to. Speaks volumes for a 26 year old guy these days to be out on his own. Shows responsibility, self-confidence, and reliability. An individual and independent. Majorly hot!

Nice car -- Once again, responsible. Since it was clean it shows he takes pride in what he has and strives to take care of it. And no obvious signs of collisions or damage means he is probably a decent driver, too.

So. It isn't exactly being 'shallow'. Its just learning to read people and guage potential.

yes, I can agree with that...my comment wasn't in reference to what you are looking for or directed towards you....and showing responsibility is important.... I just meant it speaks of the dude when he has to throw out what all he has in the first approach. He has plenty of lures for his fishing expedition...usually means he's not trustworthy because he likes to catch a lot of fish and aint gonna be happy with just one. May never get full on just one....so when a fish sees the hook it might be a signal to swim away. Just sayin'.

[Moon Beam]

Gerene, I'd like to come up to Canada and smack your Ontarian ass!
Have you ever been to this bar called Lulu's up there? Its supposedly the world's longest standing bar.

Well it's big enough so you'd never miss it and ya Lulu's is in Kitchener I believe.
I'm sure I've passed by it but last time I was there I was not a saucer.
Come pick me up it's about 2 1/2 hrs from here.

[Rhiannon]

yes, I can agree with that...my comment wasn't in reference to what you are looking for or directed towards you....and showing responsibility is important.... I just meant it speaks of the dude when he has to throw out what all he has in the first approach. He has plenty of lures for his fishing expedition...usually means he's not trustworthy because he likes to catch a lot of fish and aint gonna be happy with just one. May never get full on just one....so when a fish sees the hook it might be a signal to swim away. Just sayin'.

LOL... I agree with your sage opinion. I didn't figure it was directed at me, but after you said what you did in response to the other post, I had to restate my basis of judgement. But the sad thing about what you said is that a lot of women are looking for those 'hooks'. Those types want a man with all the 'things' because to them it means a free ride or someone to take care of them.

My ex, bless his pitiful heart, has been back on the dating scene in a big new city for almost four months. When we were together he talked about wanting to go back to school to get his Master's degree in education because his dream was to teach. Which I fully supported because I thought it would be a perfect fit for him, and he'd be a whole lot less stressed than with the career he has now.

We were hanging out at a bar a few weeks ago and he told me he was getting tired of being burned by these city girls who thought he was great when they were out with him, but when they saw his apartment (which isn't really all that bad, just in a less than attractive neighborhood), his car, and how little furniture he had, they cut tail and ran. So now he's reconsidering, says now he'll go back to school for his MBA that way he can make really good money to support the 'family' he'll one day have.

A romantic idea on the surface, and just indicative of what a good self-sacrificing nature he has, but I all but chewed him out over even attempting to make himself believe he should do that. If the only reason to do that is to get a woman who'll want him for his money (basically what it boils down to) and as well for who he is, then he will find himself miserable, regretful, and a divorcee in no time flat. I told him if the woman loved him, and was really the type of person he should attempt to marry, then she'd love him just as much whether he were a teacher or a business shark. He agreed but said it didn't matter. He wants to give his wife and kids a good life, and if that means doing something he hates, for more money, while giving up on his dream, he will.

But he doesn't see my side of it, he needs to live for himself, and not for some hypothetical situation revolving around some bitch who's basis of attraction was on material objects.

[KenTheDude]

Not necessarily TVL... in my case, my reasons listed are called 'ah-ha' indicators.

Attractive -- This is the basis for initial interest. There isn't anything shallow about it, just the way humans are wired instinctively.

His own place -- Means he is supporting himself, or at least trying to. Speaks volumes for a 26 year old guy these days to be out on his own. Shows responsibility, self-confidence, and reliability. An individual and independent. Majorly hot!

Nice car -- Once again, responsible. Since it was clean it shows he takes pride in what he has and strives to take care of it. And no obvious signs of collisions or damage means he is probably a decent driver, too.

So. It isn't exactly being 'shallow'. Its just learning to read people and guage potential.

yes, I can agree with that...my comment wasn't in reference to what you are looking for or directed towards you....and showing responsibility is important.... I just meant it speaks of the dude when he has to throw out what all he has in the first approach. He has plenty of lures for his fishing expedition...usually means he's not trustworthy because he likes to catch a lot of fish and aint gonna be happy with just one. May never get full on just one....so when a fish sees the hook it might be a signal to swim away. Just sayin'.

You have no idea about the kinds or amount of women I date. So now that I make money & have toys I'm not trustworthy??? Sounds like BS stereotyping to me. Anyone would like to be with someone that has a great job and makes money. It doesn't make them shallow. I would think if a woman had a choice to be with a guy that made a lot of money over someone that didn't (everything else being equal) they would want to choose the one with the better deal to offer. Me throwing that stuff out there was just a response to what Rhiannon spelled out about what the Pepsi guy had. Jeez this isn't match.com, don't take things so literal.

If I were poor, would that make me really trustworthy?? OK you win. I'm actually the assistant night manager at Jack-In-The-Box making minimum wage, driving to and from work 7 days a week in my rusty banged up 1974 AMC Gremlin. When I do have time off of work I stay in my rundown one bedroom apartment in the projects with my 3-legged dog named Lucky watching reruns of Andy Griffith on my 14" black-n-white TV. I would be the perfect catch for you because once again, I'm extremely trustworthy. Happy now?????

[Blueskies]

yes, I can agree with that...my comment wasn't in reference to what you are looking for or directed towards you....and showing responsibility is important.... I just meant it speaks of the dude when he has to throw out what all he has in the first approach. He has plenty of lures for his fishing expedition...usually means he's not trustworthy because he likes to catch a lot of fish and aint gonna be happy with just one. May never get full on just one....so when a fish sees the hook it might be a signal to swim away. Just sayin'.

LOL... I agree with your sage opinion. I didn't figure it was directed at me, but after you said what you did in response to the other post, I had to restate my basis of judgement. But the sad thing about what you said is that a lot of women are looking for those 'hooks'. Those types want a man with all the 'things' because to them it means a free ride or someone to take care of them.

My ex, bless his pitiful heart, has been back on the dating scene in a big new city for almost four months. When we were together he talked about wanting to go back to school to get his Master's degree in education because his dream was to teach. Which I fully supported because I thought it would be a perfect fit for him, and he'd be a whole lot less stressed than with the career he has now.

We were hanging out at a bar a few weeks ago and he told me he was getting tired of being burned by these city girls who thought he was great when they were out with him, but when they saw his apartment (which isn't really all that bad, just in a less than attractive neighborhood), his car, and how little furniture he had, they cut tail and ran. So now he's reconsidering, says now he'll go back to school for his MBA that way he can make really good money to support the 'family' he'll one day have.

A romantic idea on the surface, and just indicative of what a good self-sacrificing nature he has, but I all but chewed him out over even attempting to make himself believe he should do that. If the only reason to do that is to get a woman who'll want him for his money (basically what it boils down to) and as well for who he is, then he will find himself miserable, regretful, and a divorcee in no time flat. I told him if the woman loved him, and was really the type of person he should attempt to marry, then she'd love him just as much whether he were a teacher or a business shark. He agreed but said it didn't matter. He wants to give his wife and kids a good life, and if that means doing something he hates, for more money, while giving up on his dream, he will.

But he doesn't see my side of it, he needs to live for himself, and not for some hypothetical situation revolving around some bitch who's basis of attraction was on material objects.

and I agree with you also...would have told him the same thing myself...and have said it to guys many times who are thinking the same way. They have to do things for themselves...what makes them happy, what fullfills them...what they have a talent for and their passionate about...not do it for the money and the status it would bring them...of course they have to make a living and there is nothing wrong with money in itself...and its great if they can also make money with doing what they enjoy....but to do it just for the money...or to entice gold diggers...well then they will either become as shallow and as much of a taker as the woman is... when they are only interested in the sex and an armpiece....using a person as a possession to show off to have self worth....just like a car. If the woman is just looking for material things to define her self worth too then they will both deserve what they get. Neither is in it for the right reasons and it will not last or neither will be happy and it will be hollow if they stay together. Over time he will see that money and things cannot buy happiness or can be allowed to be the only thing that defines you. If he wants something more...something real.. true love.. then he will want someone who sees that in him and wants the same.... loves and wants him for himself....reguardless of what kind of car he drives, where he lives, or the amount in his bank account.
....anyway....I cant blame him for beginning to think that way...I hear many men complain of the same thing...but he should realize that he should not have to settle for someone like that....if he keeps looking he will find the right one....sounds to me like he could have already found one and was too blind to see it.

[Rhiannon]

yes, I can agree with that...my comment wasn't in reference to what you are looking for or directed towards you....and showing responsibility is important.... I just meant it speaks of the dude when he has to throw out what all he has in the first approach. He has plenty of lures for his fishing expedition...usually means he's not trustworthy because he likes to catch a lot of fish and aint gonna be happy with just one. May never get full on just one....so when a fish sees the hook it might be a signal to swim away. Just sayin'.

LOL... I agree with your sage opinion. I didn't figure it was directed at me, but after you said what you did in response to the other post, I had to restate my basis of judgement. But the sad thing about what you said is that a lot of women are looking for those 'hooks'. Those types want a man with all the 'things' because to them it means a free ride or someone to take care of them.

My ex, bless his pitiful heart, has been back on the dating scene in a big new city for almost four months. When we were together he talked about wanting to go back to school to get his Master's degree in education because his dream was to teach. Which I fully supported because I thought it would be a perfect fit for him, and he'd be a whole lot less stressed than with the career he has now.

We were hanging out at a bar a few weeks ago and he told me he was getting tired of being burned by these city girls who thought he was great when they were out with him, but when they saw his apartment (which isn't really all that bad, just in a less than attractive neighborhood), his car, and how little furniture he had, they cut tail and ran. So now he's reconsidering, says now he'll go back to school for his MBA that way he can make really good money to support the 'family' he'll one day have.

A romantic idea on the surface, and just indicative of what a good self-sacrificing nature he has, but I all but chewed him out over even attempting to make himself believe he should do that. If the only reason to do that is to get a woman who'll want him for his money (basically what it boils down to) and as well for who he is, then he will find himself miserable, regretful, and a divorcee in no time flat. I told him if the woman loved him, and was really the type of person he should attempt to marry, then she'd love him just as much whether he were a teacher or a business shark. He agreed but said it didn't matter. He wants to give his wife and kids a good life, and if that means doing something he hates, for more money, while giving up on his dream, he will.

But he doesn't see my side of it, he needs to live for himself, and not for some hypothetical situation revolving around some bitch who's basis of attraction was on material objects.

and I agree with you also...would have told him the same thing myself...and have said it to guys many times who are thinking the same way. They have to do things for themselves...what makes them happy, what fullfills them...what they have a talent for and their passionate about...not do it for the money and the status it would bring them...of course they have to make a living and there is nothing wrong with money in itself...and its great if they can also make money with doing what they enjoy....but to do it just for the money...or to entice gold diggers...well then they will either become as shallow and as much of a taker as the woman is... when they are only interested in the sex and an armpiece....using a person as a possession to show off to have self worth....just like a car. If the woman is just looking for material things to define her self worth too then they will both deserve what they get. Neither is in it for the right reasons and it will not last or neither will be happy and it will be hollow if they stay together. Over time he will see that money and things cannot buy happiness or can be allowed to be the only thing that defines you. If he wants something more...something real.. true love.. then he will want someone who sees that in him and wants the same.... loves and wants him for himself....reguardless of what kind of car he drives, where he lives, or the amount in his bank account.
....anyway....I cant blame him for beginning to think that way...I hear many men complain of the same thing...but he should realize that he should not have to settle for someone like that....if he keeps looking he will find the right one....sounds to me like he could have already found one and was too blind to see it.

You have some pretty valid points. And I do see where he's coming from. But he's still a single 27 year old who needs to realize that if he isn't happy, he can't make anyone else happy either.

And he wasn't too blind to see it. We had gone as far as to talk about marriage and life together and how it would work, and we decided that if it were going to work, it just would. However, obviously, without getting into any more detail, it didn't. But we're still great buddies, care a lot about the other's welfare, but just have accepted that we were right thing, wrong time. It happens. A casualty of life.

[Blueskies]

Not necessarily TVL... in my case, my reasons listed are called 'ah-ha' indicators.

Attractive -- This is the basis for initial interest. There isn't anything shallow about it, just the way humans are wired instinctively.

His own place -- Means he is supporting himself, or at least trying to. Speaks volumes for a 26 year old guy these days to be out on his own. Shows responsibility, self-confidence, and reliability. An individual and independent. Majorly hot!

Nice car -- Once again, responsible. Since it was clean it shows he takes pride in what he has and strives to take care of it. And no obvious signs of collisions or damage means he is probably a decent driver, too.

So. It isn't exactly being 'shallow'. Its just learning to read people and guage potential.

yes, I can agree with that...my comment wasn't in reference to what you are looking for or directed towards you....and showing responsibility is important.... I just meant it speaks of the dude when he has to throw out what all he has in the first approach. He has plenty of lures for his fishing expedition...usually means he's not trustworthy because he likes to catch a lot of fish and aint gonna be happy with just one. May never get full on just one....so when a fish sees the hook it might be a signal to swim away. Just sayin'.

You have no idea about the kinds or amount of women I date. So now that I make money & have toys I'm not trustworthy??? Sounds like BS stereotyping to me. Anyone would like to be with someone that has a great job and makes money. It doesn't make them shallow. I would think if a woman had a choice to be with a guy that made a lot of money over someone that didn't (everything else being equal) they would want to choose the one with the better deal to offer. Me throwing that stuff out there was just a response to what Rhiannon spelled out about what the Pepsi guy had. Jeez this isn't match.com, don't take things so literal.

If I were poor, would that make me really trustworthy?? OK you win. I'm actually the assistant night manager at Jack-In-The-Box making minimum wage, driving to and from work 7 days a week in my rusty banged up 1974 AMC Gremlin. When I do have time off of work I stay in my rundown one bedroom apartment in the projects with my 3-legged dog named Lucky watching reruns of Andy Griffith on my 14" black-n-white TV. I would be the perfect catch for you because once again, I'm extremely trustworthy. Happy now?????

...that was funny!....relax dude, I was using you as an example to the point...dont know you now do I? ..BUT..you have stated what you have several times on here so you set yourself up to get your chain yanked a little. Didn't say having money and possessions was a bad thing in and of itself....the problem is when you feel you have to flaunt it all the time. That speaks volumns. Try telling people you Do drive a Gremlin, live in a one bedroom apartment, and have a three legged dog...if they STILL like you....then boom, there ya go...she's the right one. I had a boyfriend who had several cars...when I met him he was driving a banged up piece of crap....I didn't care what kind of car he drove because I liked him for himself.....after dating him for a month and he was assured of that he then revealed his other cars....came to pick me up in one and we stopped by his house...he is very well off financially. Try it sometime and see what the results are...that is IF you are looking for something real...not just superficial.

[KenTheDude]

Not necessarily TVL... in my case, my reasons listed are called 'ah-ha' indicators.

Attractive -- This is the basis for initial interest. There isn't anything shallow about it, just the way humans are wired instinctively.

His own place -- Means he is supporting himself, or at least trying to. Speaks volumes for a 26 year old guy these days to be out on his own. Shows responsibility, self-confidence, and reliability. An individual and independent. Majorly hot!

Nice car -- Once again, responsible. Since it was clean it shows he takes pride in what he has and strives to take care of it. And no obvious signs of collisions or damage means he is probably a decent driver, too.

So. It isn't exactly being 'shallow'. Its just learning to read people and guage potential.

yes, I can agree with that...my comment wasn't in reference to what you are looking for or directed towards you....and showing responsibility is important.... I just meant it speaks of the dude when he has to throw out what all he has in the first approach. He has plenty of lures for his fishing expedition...usually means he's not trustworthy because he likes to catch a lot of fish and aint gonna be happy with just one. May never get full on just one....so when a fish sees the hook it might be a signal to swim away. Just sayin'.

You have no idea about the kinds or amount of women I date. So now that I make money & have toys I'm not trustworthy??? Sounds like BS stereotyping to me. Anyone would like to be with someone that has a great job and makes money. It doesn't make them shallow. I would think if a woman had a choice to be with a guy that made a lot of money over someone that didn't (everything else being equal) they would want to choose the one with the better deal to offer. Me throwing that stuff out there was just a response to what Rhiannon spelled out about what the Pepsi guy had. Jeez this isn't match.com, don't take things so literal.

If I were poor, would that make me really trustworthy?? OK you win. I'm actually the assistant night manager at Jack-In-The-Box making minimum wage, driving to and from work 7 days a week in my rusty banged up 1974 AMC Gremlin. When I do have time off of work I stay in my rundown one bedroom apartment in the projects with my 3-legged dog named Lucky watching reruns of Andy Griffith on my 14" black-n-white TV. I would be the perfect catch for you because once again, I'm extremely trustworthy. Happy now?????

...that was funny!....relax dude, I was using you as an example to the point...dont know you now do I? ..BUT..you have stated what you have several times on here so you set yourself up to get your chain yanked a little. Didn't say having money and possessions was a bad thing in and of itself....the problem is when you feel you have to flaunt it all the time. That speaks volumns. Try telling people you Do drive a Gremlin, live in a one bedroom apartment, and have a three legged dog...if they STILL like you....then boom, there ya go...she's the right one. I had a boyfriend who had several cars...when I met him he was driving a banged up piece of crap....I didn't care what kind of car he drove because I liked him for himself.....after dating him for a month and he was assured of that he then revealed his other cars....came to pick me up in one and we stopped by his house...he is very well off financially. Try it sometime and see what the results are...that is IF you are looking for something real...not just superficial.

I have done exactly that. I picked up women for the first time in the faded 23 year old car that I have. Then after they see what else I have, the golddigging kicks in. I completely understand your point, it just isn't always that clear cut.

Not sure about you saying I have stated what I have several times and flaunted it all the time? Don't remember doing that. But if I did I apologize.

[Rhiannon]

HEY BOOZERS!!
It's FRIDAY

Hope everyone's is going well. I'm going to go and actually buy a CD this morning. I know, I normally *coughs* borrow them permanently from the internet or other people's copies *coughs*, but I think this one deserves a personal purchase. Which one you say? Duh... Maroon 5. The one that came out like half a year ago. Yeah. I'm slow to warm.

COMICS!!!

[Moon Beam]

Thanks Rhi!....comics are always cool by me.
Happy Friday everyone!

My weekend wish is for Wombat's space to fill
up with laughter again while no one loses an
eye over it.
Has that ever happened round here?

[larryfromnextdoor]

Thanks Rhi!....comics are always cool by me.
Happy Friday everyone!

My weekend wish is for Wombat's space to fill
up with laughter again while no one loses an
eye over it.
Has that ever happened round here?

ahhhh.. it may have seen better days.. the bnad stinks,, the members are turning on each other .. even the booze thread has gotten serious.. its falling apart like a cheap wig..

[Rhiannon]

ahhhh.. it may have seen better days.. the bnad stinks,, the members are turning on each other .. even the booze thread has gotten serious.. its falling apart like a cheap wig..

What's wrong with a little serious convo? ...You've never said a spill of "matter-of-facts" and "listen-right-heres" under the influence? Shit... it usually takes a little liquid to get me to say anything other than the nicest thing possible, concerning serious talk anyhow.

[Rhiannon]

Thanks Rhi!....

You're welcome!!! BTW... I did buy the CD! I friggin love it, I was jamming it through morning rush hour, windows down, sunroof open shouting along with the songs.

[Blondie]

It's Friday, I didn't get paid, I got no beer and I have to grade papers. Yeehaw!

I hope someone can make up for me...

[Moon Beam]

Good seeing you all here today, Larry that av is your best yet I think.
I love it more each time I view it.

Isn't it the bestest when you grab and groove a jam and just go with the flow of it Rhi?
Hot damn!, fantastic tunes are of the finer things in life.....live it up lady!

I'm all over stepping in for your sauce efforts to the evening ahead Blondie.
Got ya covered, maybe you can join me in a bit of a break later.....good luck with the grading.

[Rhiannon]

Isn't it the bestest when you grab and groove a jam and just go with the flow of it Rhi?
Hot damn!, fantastic tunes are of the finer things in life.....live it up lady!

I love how the longer time goes by, and the more things that happen, the more songs I feel. I mean, its one thing to like a song and say "Yeah, I feel that"... but something completely more fulfilling to hear one and say, "Shit, are they stalking me? How did they know exactly how things went down?" More than just relating to the song, the song relates back to you. In Wake Up Call there's a line, "Would've bled to make you happy, why did you treat me this way? Said you wanted love, should've asked for love, could've given love, now I'm giving up." Pretty much sums it up. Love this album.

I only ever buy CDs when I really appreciate the songs. I guess its my way of saying "Thank you" to the artist. You know, could've got it for free, but I am so grateful for this, I'm going to actually pay for it.

[Ms_M]

It's Friday, I didn't get paid, I got no beer and I have to grade papers. Yeehaw!

I hope someone can make up for me...

I don't get paid until next week myself. Sorry about the grading papers thing - I graded a bunch at school while the kids were taking a test - lucked out on that one!! Hope they don't take too long...

[larryfromnextdoor]

ahhhh.. it may have seen better days.. the bnad stinks,, the members are turning on each other .. even the booze thread has gotten serious.. its falling apart like a cheap wig..

What's wrong with a little serious convo? ...You've never said a spill of "matter-of-facts" and "listen-right-heres" under the influence? :

ahh.. women like to talk .. under the influence.. over the influence.. any influence...

[larryfromnextdoor]

Good seeing you all here today, Larry that av is your best yet I think.
I love it more each time I view it.

.

paul is a very versitile human..

[Moon Beam]

I did not know that Larry, thanks for the insight.


How goes everyone this evening?
Anyone saucing tonight?

[Rhiannon]

How goes everyone this evening?
Anyone saucing tonight?

No saucing here. Trying to stay warm! We went from 85 degrees and sunny to 35 degrees and raining... gruff! I hate cold rain. Summer rain, love it, winter rain... fucking hell, give me snow instead! I wore my old Chicago Bears shirt out to the grocery store and Target today (its the one my Daddy bought when he lived up there in the summer of '80). Each place I was stopped by people asking me if I was from there, because they were, and how they missed it but they loved the weather down here so much more. And I'm the fool saying "Yeah, I'm making plans to move up there in a month or two."

How goes you Moondizzle?

[Moon Beam]

35 huh
Sorry Rhi but when I'm sitting in the middle of Winter's misery I love company.

How's me?.....I have an awful head cold but sitting in a nice warm house
and finished babysitting for the day so life is good, thanks for asking lady.

[Natalie]

How goes everyone this evening?

My evening is going fine so far Moon-thanks for asking.

Anyone saucing tonight?

I'm going to make some spaghetti sauce later, does that count??

[Rhiannon]

How's me?.....I have an awful head cold but sitting in a nice warm house.

35's not chilly... its the rain that's a bitch.
Sorry to hear about your head cold. Those are also bitches.
As for the warm house? Gah... this big ol' house I'm in is brand new (3 years) and yet cold as shit. If you want the house to feel toasty you have to put the heat pump on 76+. Then, my bedroom suite over the garage is still freezing! Therefore, I went to Target and got a space heater. My roomie likes the house frigid ass cold. I like heat. This is a compromise, of sorts.

[Natalie]

My roomie likes the house frigid ass cold. I like heat. This is a compromise, of sorts.

Kirk and I have the same problem. I am near death from hypothermia and he's complaining that he's "hot"!

[Rick]

My roomie likes the house frigid ass cold. I like heat. This is a compromise, of sorts.

Kirk and I have the same problem. I am near death from hypothermia and he's complaining that he's "hot"!

Good lord, that's the exact opposite of my life. Debbie's going through the... well you'll figure it out. She's always HOT and I'm always freezing. HOT not in the good way though.

[Natalie]

My roomie likes the house frigid ass cold. I like heat. This is a compromise, of sorts.

Kirk and I have the same problem. I am near death from hypothermia and he's complaining that he's "hot"!

Good lord, that's the exact opposite of my life. Debbie's going through the... well you'll figure it out. She's always HOT and I'm always freezing. HOT not in the good way though.

I think sometimes Kirk thinks I'm just saying I'm cold to annoy him-BUT, when I get cold, the end of my nose gets VERY cold so he'll say "well, let me check your temperature" and he'll touch my nose-then he always laughs at how cold it is-he finds it very funny!

[Moon Beam]

I'm going to make some spaghetti sauce later, does that count??

Only if you add wine to your sauce lady.
Tsk, tsk, trying to cheat on my meaning huh?

[Liam]

It's pretty damn cold here too. Feels like a Scotch night...but I only have beer. Looks like I have to rough it.

[Moon Beam]

It's pretty damn cold here too. Feels like a Scotch night...but I only have beer. Looks like I have to rough it.

Good man, at least your saucing!


Nat and Rick I think you should switch partners for the winter months.

Rhi go eat something girlie, get some meat on ya and ya won't be so cold.