Don't Ask Don't Tell-Good Riddance To The Bigoted Law

[Duncan]

I submit the following video for your viewing pleasure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol5Dfs7jqFI

They're not gay, they're British.

Racist.

[Michigan Girl]

I was a military wife for 10 years. Not the same as serving I know. But I heard the talk after hours. I think your hitting the nail on the head. It is one thing to do your job side by side. But I notice on even this board an underlying hostility to openly gay members sometimes. Do you think a bunch of macho guys are any different in the service? Yes, if they hurt someone because they are gay they should be dishonorably discharged, no question. But I am afraid more gays are going to see some hostility, if not physical, possibly more insidious in nature. I hope that is not true. No one should be harmed because they are gay. Emotionally or otherwise.

I believe he is referring to the damage that could incur during
a wartime situation due to lack of bonding and trust prior to ...not only for gay soldiers, but non~gay as well!!
Similar to the bond and trust police officers/partners must have for one another!!

Good Post Carlitto!!

No, I meant in times of War AND Peace. Its simple. Imagine going to work everyday
and feeling that most of your coworkers are just tolerating you because they have to,
not because they want to.
There is a BIG difference between Tolerance and Total Acceptance.

I understand that!!
Getting along and bonding, which is the GLUE needed mainly in times of war!!
I thought Ginger was referring to being attacked by fellow soldiers, solely!! She cleared me up!!

[artist4perry]

I submit the following video for your viewing pleasure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol5Dfs7jqFI

They're not gay, they're British.

Racist.

Duncan you a Brit?

[Don]

No, I meant in times of War AND Peace. Its simple. Imagine going to work everyday
and feeling that most of your coworkers are just tolerating you because they have to,
not because they want to.
There is a BIG difference between Tolerance and Total Acceptance.

Carlitto, being in the Air Force, you of course know that we have/had far fewer minorities than the other services. A lot of these Blacks, Asians and Latinos still are able to function under the same parameters knowing there will be some among their coworkers who only tolerate them because they have to. No different than what we are talking about here with Gays.

I was a TQM instructor for a year (when it was the in thing at that time) and even back then, I extended the curriculum into preaching diversity and a lot of the younger guys had no problem buying into it. This will work, even if there has to be a purge in the services. Most of our allies have already crossed this rubicon and as THE Defender of the free world, we will too.

[Duncan]

I submit the following video for your viewing pleasure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol5Dfs7jqFI

They're not gay, they're British.

Racist.

Duncan you a Brit?

yep.

[artist4perry]

I submit the following video for your viewing pleasure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol5Dfs7jqFI

They're not gay, they're British.

Racist.

Duncan you a Brit?

yep.

I love British humor! And most Brits I have met aren't too bad either!

[Don]

In many ways, our military has been the envy of all of the free nations of the earth. It pains me that on something like this, the leadership that we are known for has come from abroad, learning from allies who have already taken that step.

[Duncan]

I submit the following video for your viewing pleasure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol5Dfs7jqFI

They're not gay, they're British.

Racist.

Duncan you a Brit?

yep.

I love British humor! And most Brits I have met aren't too bad either!

That's probably a minority view around here.

[Don]

I submit the following video for your viewing pleasure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol5Dfs7jqFI

They're not gay, they're British.

Racist.

Duncan you a Brit?

yep.

I love British humor! And most Brits I have met aren't too bad either!

That's probably a minority view around here.

Fawlty Towers, Keeping Up Appearances, The Office, Last Of The Summer Wine (up until Bill Owen died), As Time Goes By, Doc Martin, Black Adder, The Thin Blue Line, And Vicar Of Dibley are all in my DVD collection.

[artist4perry]

I submit the following video for your viewing pleasure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol5Dfs7jqFI

They're not gay, they're British.

Racist.

Duncan you a Brit?

yep.

I love British humor! And most Brits I have met aren't too bad either!

That's probably a minority view around here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4oKXagF3IE

Well I know what I like!

[S2M]

Nothing to see here folks.....move along.

[artist4perry]

I don't think DADT stopped gays from being themselves, or interfered with serving in the highest capacity. Hell, I loved playing Dungeons & Dragons, read LOTR twice a year...I don't remember my nerdiness getting in the way of serving...and nobody asked me either. I was also a virgin when I enlisted. Even that didn't affect my service. I think it's a bunch of BS. And although I have nothing against gays/lesbians. I think it is a shame that they want it in our faces. But of course they will respond with the lame retort that heterosexuality is in their faces....and it just goes round and round.

Instant replay?

[S2M]

I don't think DADT stopped gays from being themselves, or interfered with serving in the highest capacity. Hell, I loved playing Dungeons & Dragons, read LOTR twice a year...I don't remember my nerdiness getting in the way of serving...and nobody asked me either. I was also a virgin when I enlisted. Even that didn't affect my service. I think it's a bunch of BS. And although I have nothing against gays/lesbians. I think it is a shame that they want it in our faces. But of course they will respond with the lame retort that heterosexuality is in their faces....and it just goes round and round.

Instant replay?

Oh crap! No, I had that passage saved as a copy/paste because MR had been acting wonky earlier. I always copy a post when MR is slow, in case it freezes then I forget exactly what I typed.....sorry.

What I meant to post was that please let's not make this thread into an American vs. British thing.....

[artist4perry]

I don't think DADT stopped gays from being themselves, or interfered with serving in the highest capacity. Hell, I loved playing Dungeons & Dragons, read LOTR twice a year...I don't remember my nerdiness getting in the way of serving...and nobody asked me either. I was also a virgin when I enlisted. Even that didn't affect my service. I think it's a bunch of BS. And although I have nothing against gays/lesbians. I think it is a shame that they want it in our faces. But of course they will respond with the lame retort that heterosexuality is in their faces....and it just goes round and round.

Instant replay?

Oh crap! No, I had that passage saved as a copy/paste because MR had been acting wonky earlier. I always copy a post when MR is slow, in case it freezes then I forget exactly what I typed.....sorry.

I thought I was having flashbacks in type!

[artist4perry]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQOMxz-O7Sc

British brilliance!

[SF-Dano]

British Arguement Clinic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y

[artist4perry]

:lol: British Arguement Clinic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y

Sounds like exchanges here on MR!

[BobbyinTN]

Here's what I find absurd about the whole thing, especially people that have a problem with it, soldiers are trained to take orders. If part of their life in the military is to accept homosexuals as equals and treat them equally they MUST do it, those are the rules and soldiers don't get to pick and choose the rules.

If they have a problem with following the rules, they can quit and if that problem turns into violence, they can get dishonorably discharged and lose all their benefits.

Bobby, you know I am an advocate of this decision but
this line of thought just doesn't work.

You're right, military service members are trained to follow rules and orders
from their appointed leaders. However, aside from respecting your superiors and peers,
and doing what you are told, there is absolutle NOTHING in the regulations that say you
also have to be freindly, personable, and kind to your fellow military members.

Friendships, personal relationships, trust, and acceptance are the glues that
hold our military services together, especially when deployed down-range.
Even though this is now a law that all military members will be required to abide by,
there will still be many that will not offer that friendship, acceptance, personal relationship, or trust
to people openly serving.

Its really a shame but, trust me, thats just the way its going to be
for a long time.

Carlitto, they don't have to be "friends" or "best buddies" or even nice, but my point was they do have to accept the fact that gays no longer have to hide who they are to serve. That's all I'm saying.

When Blacks and women were allowed to serve there was an adjustment period. It would seem by now people would have gotten over their petty fears and stereotypes, but apparently history does repeat itself.

Peace to you and yours.

[BobbyinTN]

I submit the following video for your viewing pleasure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol5Dfs7jqFI

They're not gay, they're British.

Racist.

LMAO!! Since when is British a race?

[Rockindeano]

I am less concerned over this matter than our 9/11 responders not getting care. Explain to me why this is more crucial to push through right now, when some of them are sick and in danger of their health and lives? It should be no question that their medical needs be met, they did what many would fear to do. They risked their lives for our own. Maybe that should be of a higher concern now?

Oh I just saw this. Why was DADT pushed through now instead of the 9/11 first responders? LOL, ask your newly elected republican party. They won't address the 9/11 first responders until they get their tax cuts for the rich. This is disgusting. Here, read all about it.---

9/11 First Responders Challenge Teary-Eyed McConnell: ‘Where Is His Human Feeling For Us?’

In this lame duck session, Senate Republicans are grasping at every possible reason to “run out the clock” on any Democratic priority. Their brazen obstruction, however, took some victims last week when they used another filibuster to block the James Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act of 2010. Named after a New York City policeman who died from health complications, this legislation that provides health care to 9/11 first responders and emergency workers who suffered illnesses from working at Ground Zero.

Not one Republican senator came to the floor to explain why the desperately needed, fully paid-for compensation didn’t deserve to pass. When Fox News’ Don Imus pressed Sen. John Thune (R-SD) for an explanation, Thune said the tax cuts are a bigger priority because “there is a deadline.” And when first responders came to the Senate to advocate for the bill yesterday, Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) actually called the Capitol police on them to prevent a sit-in.

Such callous miscarriage of responsibility was not lost on The Daily Show. Ripping the GOP earlier this week for “co-opting 9/11 imagery” while simultaneously killing legislation to help 9/11 victims, host Jon Stewart dedicated his entire show last night to censure their obstruction. Disgusted by Thune’s “deadline for taxes” excuse, Stewart scoffed, “yes there are only two sure things in life. Death and taxes. Apparently, the only thing this cat cares about is taxes.”

[RedWingFan]

I am less concerned over this matter than our 9/11 responders not getting care. Explain to me why this is more crucial to push through right now, when some of them are sick and in danger of their health and lives? It should be no question that their medical needs be met, they did what many would fear to do. They risked their lives for our own. Maybe that should be of a higher concern now?

Oh I just saw this. Why was DADT pushed through now instead of the 9/11 first responders? LOL, ask your newly elected republican party. They won't address the 9/11 first responders until they get their tax cuts for the rich. This is disgusting. Here, read all about it.---

Dude, they haven't even been sworn in yet. Dems still have control over both houses.

[artist4perry]

I am less concerned over this matter than our 9/11 responders not getting care. Explain to me why this is more crucial to push through right now, when some of them are sick and in danger of their health and lives? It should be no question that their medical needs be met, they did what many would fear to do. They risked their lives for our own. Maybe that should be of a higher concern now?

Oh I just saw this. Why was DADT pushed through now instead of the 9/11 first responders? LOL, ask your newly elected republican party. They won't address the 9/11 first responders until they get their tax cuts for the rich. This is disgusting. Here, read all about it.---

9/11 First Responders Challenge Teary-Eyed McConnell: ‘Where Is His Human Feeling For Us?’

In this lame duck session, Senate Republicans are grasping at every possible reason to “run out the clock” on any Democratic priority. Their brazen obstruction, however, took some victims last week when they used another filibuster to block the James Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act of 2010. Named after a New York City policeman who died from health complications, this legislation that provides health care to 9/11 first responders and emergency workers who suffered illnesses from working at Ground Zero.

Not one Republican senator came to the floor to explain why the desperately needed, fully paid-for compensation didn’t deserve to pass. When Fox News’ Don Imus pressed Sen. John Thune (R-SD) for an explanation, Thune said the tax cuts are a bigger priority because “there is a deadline.” And when first responders came to the Senate to advocate for the bill yesterday, Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) actually called the Capitol police on them to prevent a sit-in.

Such callous miscarriage of responsibility was not lost on The Daily Show. Ripping the GOP earlier this week for “co-opting 9/11 imagery” while simultaneously killing legislation to help 9/11 victims, host Jon Stewart dedicated his entire show last night to censure their obstruction. Disgusted by Thune’s “deadline for taxes” excuse, Stewart scoffed, “yes there are only two sure things in life. Death and taxes. Apparently, the only thing this cat cares about is taxes.”

Sugar bear, I already said both parties are being stupid. Especially one duffus Rep. This should be a no brainier for all the above. You and I both can see the need. Anyone with red white and blue in their veins should!

[Rockindeano]

I am less concerned over this matter than our 9/11 responders not getting care. Explain to me why this is more crucial to push through right now, when some of them are sick and in danger of their health and lives? It should be no question that their medical needs be met, they did what many would fear to do. They risked their lives for our own. Maybe that should be of a higher concern now?

Oh I just saw this. Why was DADT pushed through now instead of the 9/11 first responders? LOL, ask your newly elected republican party. They won't address the 9/11 first responders until they get their tax cuts for the rich. This is disgusting. Here, read all about it.---

Dude, they haven't even been sworn in yet. Dems still have control over both houses.

You have got to be smarter than this. It doesn't matter who runs the damned place, the fact is the republicans alone, are balking at voting for the 1st responders. That is FACT. Had you scumbags voted yes to their health and well being, rather than tying it to a tax break for the ultra rich, perhaps they would feel better with care. Apparently, the republicans only care about 9/11 when there is fear to be played off of it...as for those who were there, fuck them, they don't matter one iota.

You CANNOT spin this.

[Rockindeano]

I am less concerned over this matter than our 9/11 responders not getting care. Explain to me why this is more crucial to push through right now, when some of them are sick and in danger of their health and lives? It should be no question that their medical needs be met, they did what many would fear to do. They risked their lives for our own. Maybe that should be of a higher concern now?

Oh I just saw this. Why was DADT pushed through now instead of the 9/11 first responders? LOL, ask your newly elected republican party. They won't address the 9/11 first responders until they get their tax cuts for the rich. This is disgusting. Here, read all about it.---

9/11 First Responders Challenge Teary-Eyed McConnell: ‘Where Is His Human Feeling For Us?’

In this lame duck session, Senate Republicans are grasping at every possible reason to “run out the clock” on any Democratic priority. Their brazen obstruction, however, took some victims last week when they used another filibuster to block the James Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act of 2010. Named after a New York City policeman who died from health complications, this legislation that provides health care to 9/11 first responders and emergency workers who suffered illnesses from working at Ground Zero.

Not one Republican senator came to the floor to explain why the desperately needed, fully paid-for compensation didn’t deserve to pass. When Fox News’ Don Imus pressed Sen. John Thune (R-SD) for an explanation, Thune said the tax cuts are a bigger priority because “there is a deadline.” And when first responders came to the Senate to advocate for the bill yesterday, Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) actually called the Capitol police on them to prevent a sit-in.

Such callous miscarriage of responsibility was not lost on The Daily Show. Ripping the GOP earlier this week for “co-opting 9/11 imagery” while simultaneously killing legislation to help 9/11 victims, host Jon Stewart dedicated his entire show last night to censure their obstruction. Disgusted by Thune’s “deadline for taxes” excuse, Stewart scoffed, “yes there are only two sure things in life. Death and taxes. Apparently, the only thing this cat cares about is taxes.”

Sugar bear, I already said both parties are being stupid. Especially one duffus Rep. This should be a no brainier for all the above. You and I both can see the need. Anyone with red white and blue in their veins should!

This has NOTHING to do with the Democrats Ginger and you know it. This is all on the republicans. This spin by you close minded sonsofbitches is exactly what we can look forward to the next two years, when the public wises up and kicks you sorry assholes out of office.

Disgusting.

Do us all a favor GOP and it's voters. Don't say you give a shit about 9/11 or you "won't forget" and all that bullshit. It's clear a tax cut is much more imperative in your eyes.

[RossValoryRocks]

I am less concerned over this matter than our 9/11 responders not getting care. Explain to me why this is more crucial to push through right now, when some of them are sick and in danger of their health and lives? It should be no question that their medical needs be met, they did what many would fear to do. They risked their lives for our own. Maybe that should be of a higher concern now?

Oh I just saw this. Why was DADT pushed through now instead of the 9/11 first responders? LOL, ask your newly elected republican party. They won't address the 9/11 first responders until they get their tax cuts for the rich. This is disgusting. Here, read all about it.---

9/11 First Responders Challenge Teary-Eyed McConnell: ‘Where Is His Human Feeling For Us?’

In this lame duck session, Senate Republicans are grasping at every possible reason to “run out the clock” on any Democratic priority. Their brazen obstruction, however, took some victims last week when they used another filibuster to block the James Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act of 2010. Named after a New York City policeman who died from health complications, this legislation that provides health care to 9/11 first responders and emergency workers who suffered illnesses from working at Ground Zero.

Not one Republican senator came to the floor to explain why the desperately needed, fully paid-for compensation didn’t deserve to pass. When Fox News’ Don Imus pressed Sen. John Thune (R-SD) for an explanation, Thune said the tax cuts are a bigger priority because “there is a deadline.” And when first responders came to the Senate to advocate for the bill yesterday, Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) actually called the Capitol police on them to prevent a sit-in.

Such callous miscarriage of responsibility was not lost on The Daily Show. Ripping the GOP earlier this week for “co-opting 9/11 imagery” while simultaneously killing legislation to help 9/11 victims, host Jon Stewart dedicated his entire show last night to censure their obstruction. Disgusted by Thune’s “deadline for taxes” excuse, Stewart scoffed, “yes there are only two sure things in life. Death and taxes. Apparently, the only thing this cat cares about is taxes.”

Sugar bear, I already said both parties are being stupid. Especially one duffus Rep. This should be a no brainier for all the above. You and I both can see the need. Anyone with red white and blue in their veins should!

This has NOTHING to do with the Democrats Ginger and you know it. This is all on the republicans. This spin by you close minded sonsofbitches is exactly what we can look forward to the next two years, when the public wises up and kicks you sorry assholes out of office.

Disgusting.

Do us all a favor GOP and it's voters. Don't say you give a shit about 9/11 or you "won't forget" and all that bullshit. It's clear a tax cut is much more imperative in your eyes.

Sorry Dean but you are spinning BULLSHIT...complete and utter BULLSHIT...the only thing the Republican's wanted was a bill that addressed a couple of issues:

1. People who signed on to the MULT-BILLION dollar settlement, which pays for all the medical care AS WELL as giving them lots of money, do they get to double dip? While leaving the people who didn't sign on to only get the government part?
2. What program(s) could they cut to pay for it.

You liberals always seem to conveniently forget you gotta pay for this stuff somehow.

You run on emotion, hence the term "bleeding heart" liberal, all the republicans wanted was a SOUND piece of legislation, NOT just any piece of legislation.

You obviouslt just wanted anything to pass, because it feels good to do so, but feels good isn't ALWAYS the best thing to do. No matter what you and the vicodin say!

Oh yeah...they weren't "tax-cuts", they were continuation of the current tax-rates. See how YOU and the libs SPIN bullshit?

[artist4perry]

I am less concerned over this matter than our 9/11 responders not getting care. Explain to me why this is more crucial to push through right now, when some of them are sick and in danger of their health and lives? It should be no question that their medical needs be met, they did what many would fear to do. They risked their lives for our own. Maybe that should be of a higher concern now?

Oh I just saw this. Why was DADT pushed through now instead of the 9/11 first responders? LOL, ask your newly elected republican party. They won't address the 9/11 first responders until they get their tax cuts for the rich. This is disgusting. Here, read all about it.---

9/11 First Responders Challenge Teary-Eyed McConnell: ‘Where Is His Human Feeling For Us?’

In this lame duck session, Senate Republicans are grasping at every possible reason to “run out the clock” on any Democratic priority. Their brazen obstruction, however, took some victims last week when they used another filibuster to block the James Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act of 2010. Named after a New York City policeman who died from health complications, this legislation that provides health care to 9/11 first responders and emergency workers who suffered illnesses from working at Ground Zero.

Not one Republican senator came to the floor to explain why the desperately needed, fully paid-for compensation didn’t deserve to pass. When Fox News’ Don Imus pressed Sen. John Thune (R-SD) for an explanation, Thune said the tax cuts are a bigger priority because “there is a deadline.” And when first responders came to the Senate to advocate for the bill yesterday, Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) actually called the Capitol police on them to prevent a sit-in.

Such callous miscarriage of responsibility was not lost on The Daily Show. Ripping the GOP earlier this week for “co-opting 9/11 imagery” while simultaneously killing legislation to help 9/11 victims, host Jon Stewart dedicated his entire show last night to censure their obstruction. Disgusted by Thune’s “deadline for taxes” excuse, Stewart scoffed, “yes there are only two sure things in life. Death and taxes. Apparently, the only thing this cat cares about is taxes.”

Sugar bear, I already said both parties are being stupid. Especially one duffus Rep. This should be a no brainier for all the above. You and I both can see the need. Anyone with red white and blue in their veins should!

This has NOTHING to do with the Democrats Ginger and you know it. This is all on the republicans. This spin by you close minded sonsofbitches is exactly what we can look forward to the next two years, when the public wises up and kicks you sorry assholes out of office.

Disgusting.

Do us all a favor GOP and it's voters. Don't say you give a shit about 9/11 or you "won't forget" and all that bullshit. It's clear a tax cut is much more imperative in your eyes.

O.K. Deano. I am saying Reps are at fault. Dems are against it too by the way. So your own spin doctors are at work on you. Both are idiots. They all need to be thrown out if they won't put this as a priority. Lay off the percs sweetie! I still loves ya!

[parfait]

It will come to pass. I have been fortunate to have served great tours while in the service. My permanent assignments along with special duties include Clark RP, Yokota & Kadena Japan, Alconbury UK, Stavanger Norway and installations in over two dozen other countries.
I have faith that unlike desegregation, this will be accepted a lot quicker as many upper brass have been tolerating the situation under the radar for years. The hardest part will be at bases in the states, especially in the Bible Belt as instigators in outside comunities will still try to have some sway in trying to propogate the idea that this is such a terrible decision but after a time, even that will fall on deaf ears as the military continues to educate it's troops on the power of diversity in the service.

Read over this thread, and Don, you're a smart, reflected guy. What did you think of Stavanger and Norway? Norwegians got a rep of being distant and cold.

[Don]

It will come to pass. I have been fortunate to have served great tours while in the service. My permanent assignments along with special duties include Clark RP, Yokota & Kadena Japan, Alconbury UK, Stavanger Norway and installations in over two dozen other countries.
I have faith that unlike desegregation, this will be accepted a lot quicker as many upper brass have been tolerating the situation under the radar for years. The hardest part will be at bases in the states, especially in the Bible Belt as instigators in outside comunities will still try to have some sway in trying to propogate the idea that this is such a terrible decision but after a time, even that will fall on deaf ears as the military continues to educate it's troops on the power of diversity in the service.

Read over this thread, and Don, you're a smart, reflected guy. What did you think of Stavanger and Norway? Norwegians got a rep of being distant and cold.

More of a reticent personality, which I have myself. English is well spoken, which it seems to be in most of the region but maybe more so because of all the foreign corporations that make their home there. A bit too windy for me, but pretty girls (though I found the girls in Iceland to be a bit more to my liking), plenty of metal/rock bands at the clubs, so not a bad place to spend time if you are single.
Reminds me of Alaska, with all the oil workers and similar weather.

[artist4perry]

I am less concerned over this matter than our 9/11 responders not getting care. Explain to me why this is more crucial to push through right now, when some of them are sick and in danger of their health and lives? It should be no question that their medical needs be met, they did what many would fear to do. They risked their lives for our own. Maybe that should be of a higher concern now?

Oh I just saw this. Why was DADT pushed through now instead of the 9/11 first responders? LOL, ask your newly elected republican party. They won't address the 9/11 first responders until they get their tax cuts for the rich. This is disgusting. Here, read all about it.---

9/11 First Responders Challenge Teary-Eyed McConnell: ‘Where Is His Human Feeling For Us?’

In this lame duck session, Senate Republicans are grasping at every possible reason to “run out the clock” on any Democratic priority. Their brazen obstruction, however, took some victims last week when they used another filibuster to block the James Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act of 2010. Named after a New York City policeman who died from health complications, this legislation that provides health care to 9/11 first responders and emergency workers who suffered illnesses from working at Ground Zero.

Not one Republican senator came to the floor to explain why the desperately needed, fully paid-for compensation didn’t deserve to pass. When Fox News’ Don Imus pressed Sen. John Thune (R-SD) for an explanation, Thune said the tax cuts are a bigger priority because “there is a deadline.” And when first responders came to the Senate to advocate for the bill yesterday, Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) actually called the Capitol police on them to prevent a sit-in.

Such callous miscarriage of responsibility was not lost on The Daily Show. Ripping the GOP earlier this week for “co-opting 9/11 imagery” while simultaneously killing legislation to help 9/11 victims, host Jon Stewart dedicated his entire show last night to censure their obstruction. Disgusted by Thune’s “deadline for taxes” excuse, Stewart scoffed, “yes there are only two sure things in life. Death and taxes. Apparently, the only thing this cat cares about is taxes.”

Sugar bear, I already said both parties are being stupid. Especially one duffus Rep. This should be a no brainier for all the above. You and I both can see the need. Anyone with red white and blue in their veins should!

This has NOTHING to do with the Democrats Ginger and you know it. This is all on the republicans. This spin by you close minded sonsofbitches is exactly what we can look forward to the next two years, when the public wises up and kicks you sorry assholes out of office.

Disgusting.

Do us all a favor GOP and it's voters. Don't say you give a shit about 9/11 or you "won't forget" and all that bullshit. It's clear a tax cut is much more imperative in your eyes.

Pumpkin your getting grouchy you know that? I do care, and by the way, I am independent. Not R or D. Don't let politics let you get too worked up. You know I still loves ya. Have a Merry Christmas, Scrooge. I don't care about tax cuts. I just feel these people gave enough to our country even with the bad economy, I don't see how we can afford to forget their service, that is it in a nutshell.

[Seven Wishes2]

You are NOT an independent. My ass. You are a tried-and-true, down-to-the-core, right-wing GOP stalwart.

I've always contended Obama should have followed the wise-but-wacky Gingrich's advice and piecemealed the healthcare bill.

Year one should have seen the creation of an OPTIONAL single payor syste, an affordable high-risk pool for those who need it, and the elimination of pre-existing conditions IN EXCHANGE for tort reform. Sweet and simple.