The Joseph R Biden Presidential Thread

[Aaron]

If you don't know that's all I need to know. It's clear. But much love respect sir.

[Aaron]

But 7 vs. 3457 is all you need to know. And if you think think that fk got 81 million just look on here for the result. Andrew will hate it but it's the data that everyone needs to see.

[Aaron]

Sorry it' w 6, don't won't any fake news.

But 7 vs. 3457 is all you need to know. And if you think think that fk got 81 million just look on here for the result. Andrew will hate it but it's the data that everyone needs to see.

[Monker]

Sorry it' w 6, don't won't any fake news.

But 7 vs. 3457 is all you need to know. And if you think think that fk got 81 million just look on here for the result. Andrew will hate it but it's the data that everyone needs to see.

It is evidence that Andrew got rid of multiple people posting entire articles of alt right propaganda and lies. People not interested in conversation but only interested in spreading bullshit. How pathetic that some people can't even speak but use articles on other websites to do the lying for them. The fact that this thread has such fewer pages is evidence that the bloated bullshit has ben cut out.

Trump lost. Even election deniers in Arizona could not find fraud or enough trump votes to change things. Trump is loser. The greatest a republican loser of our time.

[Monker]

So, add one more loss for the loser Trump. Herschel Walker should never have even been considered but Trump endorsed and talked him up. So, Herschel loses and Republicans LOSE a seat in the Senate. At a time when Republicans should have gained seats, thanks to Trump, they LOST ground.

[Andrew]

But 7 vs. 3457 is all you need to know. And if you think think that fk got 81 million just look on here for the result. Andrew will hate it but it's the data that everyone needs to see.

I have no idea what this means.

[Andrew]

So, add one more loss for the loser Trump. Herschel Walker should never have even been considered but Trump endorsed and talked him up. So, Herschel loses and Republicans LOSE a seat in the Senate. At a time when Republicans should have gained seats, thanks to Trump, they LOST ground.

No more wingnuts required.

[Gideon]

But 7 vs. 3457 is all you need to know. And if you think think that fk got 81 million just look on here for the result. Andrew will hate it but it's the data that everyone needs to see.

I have no idea what this means.

Apparently Aaron believes the vote count is wrong because Biden's MelodicRock thread is only 7 pages long whereas Trump's MelodicRock thread is 336+.

[Andrew]

But 7 vs. 3457 is all you need to know. And if you think think that fk got 81 million just look on here for the result. Andrew will hate it but it's the data that everyone needs to see.

I have no idea what this means.

Apparently Aaron believes the vote count is wrong because Biden's MelodicRock thread is only 7 pages long whereas Trump's MelodicRock thread is 336+.

Oh, I see.

Well...if you take all the RWNJ posts out of the Drumpf thread, that's probably 7 pages of sensible comments as well.

[RPM]

Joe how could you be so irresponsible? but hey they were locked up with your corvette.....moron.
#impeachthepeach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB4ZkAQBex4&t=8s

[Andrew]

Joe how could you be so irresponsible? but hey they were locked up with your corvette.....moron.
#impeachthepeach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB4ZkAQBex4&t=8s

Completely different circumstances and scale....but Faux News doesn't need any excuse for a 24/7 orgy of misinformation.

BUT....still not a good look and very irresponsible.

[RPM]

Joe how could you be so irresponsible? but hey they were locked up with your corvette.....moron.
#impeachthepeach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB4ZkAQBex4&t=8s

Completely different circumstances and scale....but Faux News doesn't need any excuse for a 24/7 orgy of misinformation.

BUT....still not a good look and very irresponsible.

Its certainly looking like its on another scale....No Fox link nec....

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/21/politics ... index.html

[Andrew]

Joe how could you be so irresponsible? but hey they were locked up with your corvette.....moron.
#impeachthepeach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB4ZkAQBex4&t=8s

Completely different circumstances and scale....but Faux News doesn't need any excuse for a 24/7 orgy of misinformation.

BUT....still not a good look and very irresponsible.

Its certainly looking like its on another scale....No Fox link nec....

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/21/politics ... index.html

No sugar coating it…a bad look after heavy criticism of the Orange Orb and something that should not happen. Period. Hopefully security changes are put in place moving forward.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I like Biden. I am riden with Biden. Will probably vote for him in 2024.

-Afghanistan withdrawal
-Student loan debt attempt
-Preventing Ukrain vs. Russia from becoming nuclear.

This man has earned my respect and support. Trump is amusing. But that's not leadership.

[Memorex]

It's astounding to me the number of people that get worked up over nothing, but only when the media conducts you like a symphony. Trump did nothing wrong with the documents, Biden did nothing wrong, and neither did the presidents and vice presidents before them. Even Hilary. Her deleting classified info and lying about it is one thing, but having it is an absolute zero on the scale of what anyone should be caring about. I spoke with a lady from the Reagan Library when it first opened. I lived down the road from it. She was telling me how there was a "battle" going on about documents he had downstairs in the vault and some other party didn't feel they should be there. Bill Clinton - whole thing about docs in his library, etc. My point is, if anyone thinks that Joe did any different or Trump did any different, you are just getting strummed by the masters.

Sure, we can all agree that classified docs should be dealt with however, but they deal with millions of documents and many of them are marked with different levels of classified. I don't know if you have ever interacted with a government run organization, but if you tell me Trump had a thousand and Biden had a dozen or two and Hillary had ten and Bill had 2000... I honestly think to myself, that's it? No way was it that organized.

This is a thing for one reason and one reason only. The people that run the country do not want Biden to run again. Period. That's it. No more, no less.

I hate Biden with a passion, but this is a stupid non-story.

[Monker]

Trump refused to return the documents on request of the National Archives. He delayed the request for about a year. Then his lawyers returned some and signed a document saying that all were returned. Mar-a-Lago was raided on a tip that more documents exist and were in the process of being moved. Then Trump started saying lies that they belong to him and he could declassify documents just by thinking about it. They belong to the National Archives, not Trump. There is a process that it has to go through to declassify things....and an EX President can't do that, LOL. He fought the return of the documents from day one.

In contrast, Biden returned documents immediately when found and is fully cooperating with the National Archives, the Justice Department and FBI. No reason to "raid" somebody who is completely cooperating and has nothing to hide.

Trump absolutely did some things wrong...which is why he is being considered for an Obstruction of Justice charge. Trump KNEW he had these documents and considered them HIS. Trump's intent was to KEEP THEM.

Biden, IMO, did not even know he had them until they were found. and then followed reasonable procedures when they were found...it sounds to me like whoever packed up his offices threw them in the other 'stuff' when he moved. Biden's intent was to give them back.

[Memorex]

Trumps response is always different, always combative. He didn't hide them for a year, they were negotiating which docs had to be given back. In any case, Trumps thing was no different than Bill Clinton's. Far less worse than Hillary's, if we are comparing. Based on my convo with the Reagan lady, it's no different than his.

Also, there was an order that said if Trump removed the docs, they were considered declassified. Everyone in the world can hate that, but presidents have that power. I'm not sure about Vice Presidents.

Either way, people should be arguing about non-covid excess deaths, inflation, food shortages, education..... This stuff is as meaningless as it gets.

[Andrew]

Trump did nothing wrong with the documents

Apart from hiding them, lying about them (something Trump never does!) and delaying returning them.

And of course, declassifying them with his mind.

[Memorex]

Trump did nothing wrong with the documents

Apart from hiding them, lying about them (something Trump never does!) and delaying returning them.

And of course, declassifying them with his mind.

A president can declassify and there was an order on file for him to do so. He didn't hide them. You guys need to move away from the hype.

[Andrew]

You guys need to move away from the hype.

And you guys need to move away from the orange orb

[Monker]

Trump did nothing wrong with the documents

Apart from hiding them, lying about them (something Trump never does!) and delaying returning them.

And of course, declassifying them with his mind.

A president can declassify and there was an order on file for him to do so. He didn't hide them. You guys need to move away from the hype.

First of all, it not true that there was an "order";
https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/18/politics ... index.html

If there is an "order on file", post it...cuz I think Trump is just making it up. In addition, there is an entire process that has to happen and then the documents ARE MARKED AS DECLASSIFIED. The documents Trump had were NOT marked as "declassified".

Second, it makes no difference if they were classified or not. They were not his to take. THAT is the point. He was asked to give them back. He refused. There is no 'negotiation'...why do you think a judge signed off on a warrant to raid Mar-o-largo to get them back? They were not his...he is REQUIRED to give them back - even if his big brain declassified them.

He didn't hide them? Come on. HE WAS IN THE PROCESSOF MOVING THEM when the FBI raided Mar-a-Lago. He KNEW he had them, had his lawyers LIE and sign a document saying he gave them all back, and was moving them when the FBI showed up. And, it wasn't just a few documents, it was BOXES of them.

[Memorex]

You guys need to move away from the hype.

And you guys need to move away from the orange orb

I was talking about the Biden hype. It should be a non story.

[Memorex]

And now Mike Pence finds classified docs at his house. I'm telling you, it's all of them. They handle a huge number of documents in a fast paced job.

[Monker]

And now Mike Pence finds classified docs at his house. I'm telling you, it's all of them. They handle a huge number of documents in a fast paced job.

Yes, it probably is. I suspect is the people who pack up their offices when they leave do it. They don't care, they just throw it all in a box.

The difference is what they do after they are found. Do they give it to the National Archives? Or, do they try to keep them, as Trump did? I don't know, but I would guess Pence's lawyers gave them back to the National Archives without even being asked.

Now, is there going to be another special counsel looking into Pence? There almost has to be...and I would not be surprised is they found more.

[Memorex]

And now Mike Pence finds classified docs at his house. I'm telling you, it's all of them. They handle a huge number of documents in a fast paced job.

Yes, it probably is. I suspect is the people who pack up their offices when they leave do it. They don't care, they just throw it all in a box.

The difference is what they do after they are found. Do they give it to the National Archives? Or, do they try to keep them, as Trump did? I don't know, but I would guess Pence's lawyers gave them back to the National Archives without even being asked.

Now, is there going to be another special counsel looking into Pence? There almost has to be...and I would not be surprised is they found more.

I hope not. Is expensive. I was reading some CNN articles where people that deal with such things call it Classified Spillage and it's just common.

Trump is a whole other thing and I don't have the energy to discuss him with others.

[Andrew]

And now Mike Pence finds classified docs at his house. I'm telling you, it's all of them. They handle a huge number of documents in a fast paced job.

Of course. I'm not surprised and probably unavoidable.

But only 1 guy packed up boxes and boxes worth to store at his old man home then refuse to give them back.

[Monker]

And now Mike Pence finds classified docs at his house. I'm telling you, it's all of them. They handle a huge number of documents in a fast paced job.

Yes, it probably is. I suspect is the people who pack up their offices when they leave do it. They don't care, they just throw it all in a box.

The difference is what they do after they are found. Do they give it to the National Archives? Or, do they try to keep them, as Trump did? I don't know, but I would guess Pence's lawyers gave them back to the National Archives without even being asked.

Now, is there going to be another special counsel looking into Pence? There almost has to be...and I would not be surprised is they found more.

I hope not. Is expensive. I was reading some CNN articles where people that deal with such things call it Classified Spillage and it's just common.

Trump is a whole other thing and I don't have the energy to discuss him with others.

Yes, it does cost money. However, they are investigating Biden IMO because they did not want to show favoritism towards Democrats. The EXACT same situation happened with Pence. So, to not show favoritism towards Republicans, Pence should also be investigated. And, you are correct, there is probably nothing there to find.

[RPM]

It's astounding to me the number of people that get worked up over nothing, but only when the media conducts you like a symphony. Trump did nothing wrong with the documents, Biden did nothing wrong, and neither did the presidents and vice presidents before them. Even Hilary. Her deleting classified info and lying about it is one thing, but having it is an absolute zero on the scale of what anyone should be caring about. I spoke with a lady from the Reagan Library when it first opened. I lived down the road from it. She was telling me how there was a "battle" going on about documents he had downstairs in the vault and some other party didn't feel they should be there. Bill Clinton - whole thing about docs in his library, etc. My point is, if anyone thinks that Joe did any different or Trump did any different, you are just getting strummed by the masters.

Sure, we can all agree that classified docs should be dealt with however, but they deal with millions of documents and many of them are marked with different levels of classified. I don't know if you have ever interacted with a government run organization, but if you tell me Trump had a thousand and Biden had a dozen or two and Hillary had ten and Bill had 2000... I honestly think to myself, that's it? No way was it that organized.

This is a thing for one reason and one reason only. The people that run the country do not want Biden to run again. Period. That's it. No more, no less.

I hate Biden with a passion, but this is a stupid non-story.

Definitely. When left wing media is headlining with the story you know they are done with him as they should be.
His lame answers regarding the multiple discoveries was ridiculous, Trump's was even worse. best response was Pence Who handled it correctly. Admitted it should not have happened, but complied promptly .

[Andrew]

best response was Pence Who handled it correctly. Admitted it should not have happened, but complied promptly .

Agree...handled well. But didn't Biden do the same?

It's only Trumplethinskin and Fox News that are having a coronary over this.

[RPM]

best response was Pence Who handled it correctly. Admitted it should not have happened, but complied promptly .

Agree...handled well. But didn't Biden do the same?

It's only Trumplethinskin and Fox News that are having a coronary over this.

Biden did comply correctly, however his public response was ridiculous. saying "I had them locked in my garage
with my corvette " is idiotic. We all know interns or assistants move these things just say it like it is as Pence did.
No excuses, just do the right thing. I would say Andrew CNN has been surprisingly all over Biden on this, as others
have alluded to there are people in high places who want nothing to do with a Biden re - election. I said on here
along time ago Trump was finished and I still believe that. if he hasn't done enough to disqualify himself already
to most voters they are as selfish as he is. There are other options for those of us who like some of his policies
without having a narcissist lead the nation. Pence would be one for me, but I doubt he would have a chance.