President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[RPM]

Look, a few months back, everybody "stood with Paris." Everybody was French for a day. Today, there are the same familiar calls to "stand with Brussels." And all the world will be Belgian for a day.

How about we stop all this hand holding crap and stand firmly against Islamists? How about instead of all this touchy-feely stuff, all the world finally gets serious and goes after and defeats Islamic terror with everything we have?

How about we quit lighting candles and begin blowing up terrorists?

- Joe Walsh

How about we realize that knee jerk reactions following 9/11 and using terrorism as part of a long list of excuses led to invading Iraq in the first place. That left the opening for ISIS to come into existence. Being all hell bent on running into war to inact revenge is never an answer and the above proved it.

How about we also understand that Obama HAS BEEN blowing up terrorists with drones for years...but all I have read from lamers out there is critique. How about remembering that under W. words like the above would get you labeled a coward, not supporting the military, supporting the terrorists, unpatriotic and that you should leave the country.

Large forces occupying foreign countries is certainly not the answer. Extremely Lethal no hands tied behind the back
mobile forces who eliminate threats without reid or pelosi types calling for their imprisonment because the
terrorist didnt get to talk to a laywer before he was eliminated is more of the order of the day. Brussels has been so p.c. raids were only conducted between reasonble hours...

[JBlake]

Just saw a picture of that god awful looking bitch Chelsea Clinton in the news today. All she needs to do is dye her skin dark and put on a black Sideshow Bob wig, she'd look just like Rachel Dolezal, only fatter.

[Boomchild]

[The_Noble_Cause]

Boomchild, do you actually know any liberals? Serious question.

[Boomchild]

Boomchild, do you actually know any liberals? Serious question.

Quite a few and some are members of my family.

[Boomchild]

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and some of her closest aides have to decide whether to tell the truth or lie to the FBI about her use of a private email and home-brew server to do official business.

In the case of Hillary there's no decision to be made. The answer always is to lie.

[ohsherrie]

That is totally hilarious!

[ohsherrie]

How about we realize that knee jerk reactions following 9/11 and using terrorism as part of a long list of excuses led to invading Iraq in the first place. That left the opening for ISIS to come into existence. Being all hell bent on running into war to inact revenge is never an answer and the above proved it.

How about we also understand that Obama HAS BEEN blowing up terrorists with drones for years...but all I have read from lamers out there is critique. How about remembering that under W. words like the above would get you labeled a coward, not supporting the military, supporting the terrorists, unpatriotic and that you should leave the country.

Large forces occupying foreign countries is certainly not the answer. Extremely Lethal no hands tied behind the back
mobile forces who eliminate threats without reid or pelosi types calling for their imprisonment because the
terrorist didnt get to talk to a laywer before he was eliminated is more of the order of the day. Brussels has been so p.c. raids were only conducted between reasonble hours...

I agree. Obama has tried to do some things but whatever he does one or both parties bitch about it. I'm not hawkish at all but in this case I think we should bring all due force to bear on every region that breeds the terrorists. There will be massive collateral damage but there has been in every war that we've won. We didn't win them by being nice.

[Boomchild]

One shot at the Queen

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/03 ... probe.html

They sure have been "intensifying" this probe for a long, long time now. I'm sure it will continue to "intensify" right through the POTUS elections this fall.

[Boomchild]

[Boomchild]

[Monker]

Hmmm, that's interesting. Seems some people want the US to be led by how the middle east nations treat foreigners....instead of the US leading the world by example and doing the right and humane thing.

Must be the fascist Trump supporters drawing such cartoons.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Boomchild, do you actually know any liberals? Serious question.

Quite a few and some are members of my family.

And do they all meet the stereotype of welfare moochers?

[The_Noble_Cause]

She's losing it. Holy shit. Instead of focusing on Trump's comments on abortions (who cares? We know he doesn't mean it. Furthermore, Roe vs Wade isn't going anywhere), the media should be playing this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC4Pvm6Oj4A

[Boomchild]

And do they all meet the stereotype of welfare moochers?

Some yes and some no. However, the nos think those that are on entitlement programs are not getting enough and need even more. They believe that answer is more hand outs then hand ups to provide a pathway to self support. So in my view they are the same kind of people. The reality is that those that are on entitlement programs are not going to "bite the hand that feeds them". Therefore the majority of them are going to support those that wish to continue these entitlement programs which currently is the liberal democratic party.

[ohsherrie]

Fact Finder, what do you know about the land in this country owned by middle easterners for farming purposes?

[Boomchild]

[Monker]

Why have you become someone who spreads so much propaganda?

Since you seem to have something to say about this: Please explain exactly why a raise did not happen and how that procedure relates to congress.

[Monker]

Bzzzzzzz. WRONG.

First, you are not Boomchild....I specifically asked him.

Simply put (as apposed the lengthy legal talk in your article) Social Security benefits are directly tied to the rate of inflation. Since there has been no inflation, there is no increase.

It has NOTHING to do with congress. Therefore, the pic he posted is a complete misrepresentation of reality and it is nothing but propaganda.

Stagnent economy. Then theres the last paragraph.

Press Release

Thursday, October 15, 2015
For Immediate Release LaVenia J. LaVelle, Press Officer
press.office@ssa.gov
Law Does Not Provide for a Social Security Cost-of-Living
Adjustment for 2016


With consumer prices down over the past year, monthly Social Security and Supplemental Security Income (SSI) benefits for nearly 65 million Americans will not automatically increase in 2016.

The Social Security Act provides for an automatic increase in Social Security and SSI benefits if there is an increase in inflation as measured by the Consumer Price Index for Urban Wage Earners and Clerical Workers (CPI-W). The period of consideration includes the third quarter of the last year a cost-of-living adjustment (COLA) was made to the third quarter of the current year. As determined by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, there was no increase in the CPI-W from the third quarter of 2014 to the third quarter of 2015. Therefore, under existing law, there can be no COLA in 2016.

Other adjustments that would normally take effect based on changes in the national average wage index also will not take effect in January 2016. Since there is no COLA, the statute also prohibits a change in the maximum amount of earnings subject to the Social Security tax, as well as the retirement earnings test exempt amounts. These amounts will remain unchanged in 2016. The attached fact sheet provides more information on 2016 Social Security and SSI changes.

The Department of Health and Human Services has not yet announced Medicare premium changes for 2016. Should there be an increase in the Medicare Part B premium, the law contains a “hold harmless” provision that protects approximately 70 percent of Social Security beneficiaries from paying a higher Part B premium, in order to avoid reducing their net Social Security benefit. Those not protected include higher income beneficiaries subject to an income-adjusted Part B premium and beneficiaries newly entitled to Part B in 2016. In addition, beneficiaries who have their Medicare Part B premiums paid by state medical assistance programs will see no change in their Social Security benefit. The state will be required to pay any Medicare Part B premium increase.

[ohsherrie]

Fact Finder, what do you know about the land in this country owned by middle easterners for farming purposes?

Not a lot. I have been seeing that story about the Saudis growing alfalfa out in Az and Cali and supposedly stealing all of the ground water. Not sure what to make of it yet.

I can't find anything on it either but it seems asinine to me. Why didn't we grow the wheat and trade it to them rather than selling part of our country to them. I know that is overreacting and Monker will jump all over it but we have way too many foreign (not just Muslim) countries owning pieces of our country.

Whose country is this?

[ohsherrie]

The reason we didn't get a social security raise this year is because the price of gas was so low they figured that overall we didn't have a raise in the cost of living.

[Monker]

The reason we didn't get a social security raise this year is because the price of gas was so low they figured that overall we didn't have a raise in the cost of living.

Not true. As I said, the raise is tied to inflation. There is no "they". There is a calculation that determines the amount of the raise.

[Monker]

What Boomchild said was Congress thought they deserved a raise and Social Security Recipients won't get one.

And, there is absolutely no relationship between those two things. That makes it propaganda.

[Monker]

Propaganda is fiction, like clintons promises. What Boomchild posted was not fiction. congress does want a raise, and SS recips aren't getting one. True they are not related.

You are incredibly naive.

[RPM]

The reason we didn't get a social security raise this year is because the price of gas was so low they figured that overall we didn't have a raise in the cost of living.

Not true. As I said, the raise is tied to inflation. There is no "they". There is a calculation that determines the amount of the raise.

There is no "They". I think its YOU who is Naive .......

[Boomchild]

Sorry you can't handle reality. I didn't say they were related, and neither did boomchild. what I said was they were both true, which they are. "naive" is what Clinton supporters are.

These elected officials are elected to do what is best for the country and it's citizens. Based on how in debt the country is, I find it ludicrous that these politicians would even think about increasing their own wages. Especially based on the fact that the average rank-in-file Congressman earns $174,000 per year. If they can't survive on that amount of income that is not the problem for the tax payers to fix. I guess they feel they are victims of unfair wages as well. There should be a law in place to prevent raises for elected federal government officials when the national debt is at a certain level.

[Boomchild]

[ohsherrie]

Simply put (as apposed the lengthy legal talk in your article) Social Security benefits are directly tied to the rate of inflation. Since there has been no inflation, there is no increase.

It has NOTHING to do with congress. Therefore, the pic he posted is a complete misrepresentation of reality and it is nothing but propaganda.

Monker, does not all the money that goes into our government for whatever purpose ultimately come from money that "we the people" worked for? Within that context EVERYTHING that gets paid for out of that money is connected whether a raise for the already overpaid congress or the lack of one for social security recipients

I'm afraid you're the one who is either terribly naive or trying desperately to hold on to an ideology if you think anything in Washington is done according to an unalterable and unfailing mathematical process or set of rules. They can, will, and have done anything they want to with whatever pool of money they want for whatever purpose.

That's what happened to the untouchable social security fund. They rob Peter to pay Paul as standard operating procedure and find a way to justify it later.

If you don't believe this I'm happy for you. I wish I was still that full of ideological naivete.

[Monker]

Simply put (as apposed the lengthy legal talk in your article) Social Security benefits are directly tied to the rate of inflation. Since there has been no inflation, there is no increase.

It has NOTHING to do with congress. Therefore, the pic he posted is a complete misrepresentation of reality and it is nothing but propaganda.

Monker, does not all the money that goes into our government for whatever purpose ultimately come from money that "we the people" worked for? Within that context EVERYTHING that gets paid for out of that money is connected whether a raise for the already overpaid congress or the lack of one for social security recipients

I'm afraid you're the one who is either terribly naive or trying desperately to hold on to an ideology if you think anything in Washington is done according to an unalterable and unfailing mathematical process or set of rules. They can, will, and have done anything they want to with whatever pool of money they want for whatever purpose.

That's what happened to the untouchable social security fund. They rob Peter to pay Paul as standard operating procedure and find a way to justify it later.

If you don't believe this I'm happy for you. I wish I was still that full of ideological naivete.

I don't disagree with much of that.

However, saying congress wants a raise and Social Security did not get a raise this year are two "facts" slammed together for political propaganda. It's no different then the senator who brought in a snowball to prove that global warming isn't happening. It's all theatrics designed to get an emotional knee jerk reaction....propaganda.

[Boomchild]

Holy carp! Hillary doing a double Nazi salute!