President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[Memorex]

Sorry Steveo, I'm in Florida on va-ca, just lazy.

http://www.realtruenews.org/single-post ... e-Liberals


There's a video for this I'll find for you as well.

FF is on "vacation" in a swing state. I think he's been to this site: http://swingmove.com/

[Jana]

I said three months ago to in a debate with friends over the election that Trump was the worst thing to ever happen to the Republican Party. Ha. I was right. He is imploding. It's pretty bad when you have so many in your own party coming out against you. He's a nutcase. That interview on 60 Minutes was mindboggling.

[Boomchild]

I firmly believe that term limits for Senators and the members of Congress is an essential part of reform needed in our federal government. If you believe the same, may I suggest you check out this petition and sign it if you agree.

http://termlimitsforuscongress.com/e-petition.html

[Memorex]

I said three months ago to in a debate with friends over the election that Trump was the worst thing to ever happen to the Republican Party. Ha. I was right. He is imploding. It's pretty bad when you have so many in your own party coming out against you. He's a nutcase. That interview on 60 Minutes was mindboggling.

You have a funny definition of imploding. http://graphics.latimes.com/usc-preside ... dashboard/

I only selected this poll because it's one of the only ones that uses the same sampling. Unlike most polls, which are purposely skewed Democrat. Or the news ones out that show Trump up at 68% that are way conservative leaning.

[JBlake]

I said three months ago to in a debate with friends over the election that Trump was the worst thing to ever happen to the Republican Party. Ha. I was right. He is imploding. It's pretty bad when you have so many in your own party coming out against you. He's a nutcase. That interview on 60 Minutes was mindboggling.

I just love hit and run posters. What's it been Jana, 4 years? Who's next to come flying out of the ether, Behshad?

Sort of like lifting up an old board laying in the backyard, bugs come crawling out in all directions. Obviously something's happened all of a sudden that has disturbed the looney tune liberals and their democrat counterparts.

[Monker]

I said three months ago to in a debate with friends over the election that Trump was the worst thing to ever happen to the Republican Party. Ha. I was right. He is imploding. It's pretty bad when you have so many in your own party coming out against you. He's a nutcase. That interview on 60 Minutes was mindboggling.

You have a funny definition of imploding. http://graphics.latimes.com/usc-preside ... dashboard/

I only selected this poll because it's one of the only ones that uses the same sampling. Unlike most polls, which are purposely skewed Democrat. Or the news ones out that show Trump up at 68% that are way conservative leaning.

After looking at the details of this, I think this polls demographics are definitely messed. That can't match what the demographics of who will actually vote. All I have to do is look at this statement from the poll, "Disaffected white middle-class voters have been the backbone of Donald Trump's presidential run, as the poll shows. Black and Latino voters lean heavily toward Clinton. Trump's statements critical of Mexicans in the U.S. illegaly have harmed him politically among Latinos. "

90% of blacks vote for Clinton. 60% of Latinos vote for Clinton. I mean, come on. This poll must be made of 70% old white males.

But, losing in polls isn't what is meant by the Republican party imploding. There are so many issues against Trump that I am not even going to name them now. Now, not only do you have to worry about the Libertarian party but a Republican is going to try to run as an independent. That virtually GAURANTEES a Democrat win. Libertarians draw from both parties about the same...now Evan McMuillin has guaranteed the Republicans will lose. Talk about a disaster....idiots.

The Republican party has a serious, serious problem now. It needs a lobotomy. It is INSANE.

[Monker]

I said three months ago to in a debate with friends over the election that Trump was the worst thing to ever happen to the Republican Party. Ha. I was right. He is imploding. It's pretty bad when you have so many in your own party coming out against you. He's a nutcase. That interview on 60 Minutes was mindboggling.

I just love hit and run posters. What's it been Jana, 4 years? Who's next to come flying out of the ether, Behshad?

Sort of like lifting up an old board laying in the backyard, bugs come crawling out in all directions. Obviously something's happened all of a sudden that has disturbed the looney tune liberals and their democrat counterparts.

Yeah, that thing is called "Donald J. Trump". The scariest loony of them all.

[JBlake]

I think what these folks don't understand is that to most die hard conservatives Trump is the best thing to happen to the Republican Party in eons. We've had enough of our party not fighting back, giving Lil berry what he wants and selling us all out after we put them back in power in the off year elections. Die yards are sick of all the excuses. We really thought that when Eric Cantor got beaten that wiser heads would come to their senses and realize that we are tired of fucking around. This ain't some damn game to just roll the dice on. Trump has finally said (albeit without much tact, which I personally love) what we've been wanting to hear since Reagan. The fact that he will kick ass and name names and call a spade a spade is so wonderful to hear despite what the politicly correct crowd on CNN et all want you to believe. Win or lose, millions are loving every minute of Trumps full on assault on the crooked Democrat Party, and believe me, they are crooked as the day is long.

You're absolutely correct. All the scandals the Democrats have been caught up in over the past 6/7 years, and these aren't the looney tune 9/11 conspiracy deals, these are hard core deals, (IRS targeting, Libya, $500 million Solandra deal gone bad, Obamacare failure, Shovel ready jobs that never ever materialized, Hillary's secret server & email enabling her to pick and choose what official business is archived, DNC lowballing Bernie, the list goes on and on.) The only thing the current first lady is known for is her love for J.Crew, hoola hoops and trying to get kids to eat healthier at school, which the root cause of bad eating habits isn't at school, it's at home. The Obamas and democrats are complete total failures PERIOD!

[JBlake]

And remember this "brilliant" Obama comment:

[Memorex]

Just why? It is not the media's job to fudge the facts. Just report and let people decide. SIMPLE.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/20 ... da-speech/

[Jana]

I said three months ago to in a debate with friends over the election that Trump was the worst thing to ever happen to the Republican Party. Ha. I was right. He is imploding. It's pretty bad when you have so many in your own party coming out against you. He's a nutcase. That interview on 60 Minutes was mindboggling.

I just love hit and run posters. What's it been Jana, 4 years? Who's next to come flying out of the ether, Behshad?

Not a hit and run. I was at work all day. I'll be back on this thread. Someone needs to be the voice of reason.

[Jana]

I said three months ago to in a debate with friends over the election that Trump was the worst thing to ever happen to the Republican Party. Ha. I was right. He is imploding. It's pretty bad when you have so many in your own party coming out against you. He's a nutcase. That interview on 60 Minutes was mindboggling.

I just love hit and run posters. What's it been Jana, 4 years? Who's next to come flying out of the ether, Behshad?

Sort of like lifting up an old board laying in the backyard, bugs come crawling out in all directions. Obviously something's happened all of a sudden that has disturbed the looney tune liberals and their democrat counterparts.

I'm a Democrat, but I consider myself a moderate with many liberal viewpoints. But in your eyes I would be a liberal, which I don't consider a bad word anyway. That's far better than the far right wing zealots that have been holding the Republican Party hostage. .

[Jana]

50 G.O.P. Officials Warn Donald Trump Would Put Nation’s Security ‘at Risk’

The guy is a ticking time bomb. Mark my words, the loss is going to be big in this election, and that's even against a problematic Democratic Party nominee.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/09/us/po ... trump.html

[Monker]

I think what these folks don't understand is that to most die hard conservatives Trump is the best thing to happen to the Republican Party in eons.

So, a guy who is more liberal than Clinton is the best thing conservatives could find for the Republican party.

That is just hilarious.

We've had enough of our party not fighting back, giving Lil berry what he wants and selling us all out after we put them back in power in the off year elections.

That is complete and utter bullshit. Look at how often congress has filibustered. Look how many Presidential appointments the Republicans have tied up. It is RECORDS across the board. Tis Republican congress is the most do-nothing, "say 'no' to everything," obstructionist congress in the history of the nation. That is an absolutely simple FACT.

You all FORGET that for government to do its job that compromise MUST happen. That is ALSO a simple fact.

Another FACT is that Trump himself said he wants to work with congress in the same way that Reagan worked with Tip O'Neal. Yeah, Trump wants to compromise with the likes of a modern day Tip O'Neal! That does not exactly sound like a person who is going to force a Conservative agenda on a left leaning moderate congress. YOU ARE AN IDIOT.

We really thought that when Eric Cantor got beaten that wiser heads would come to their senses and realize that we are tired of fucking around.

What the fuck? You actually thought that kicking out one of the architects of the "say not to everything Obama wants" agenda would result in Obama getting less done? That is one of the most ignorant things I have ever read in this forum.

This ain't some damn game to just roll the dice on. Trump has finally said (albeit without much tact, which I personally love) what we've been wanting to hear since Reagan.

Ah, so you wanted Reagan to tell Gorbachev that we were going to build a wall in West Berlin?

Reagan was nothing like Trump. Reagan would never have attacked John McCain or Paul Ryan. Trumps words about prisoners of war and to the Kahn family would have infuriated him. IMO, Reagan would have publicly rebuked Trump for attacking other Republicans, war heroes and their families. Reagan was also a person who wanted to unit the country, not insult Mexican Americans, Muslim Americans, Blacks, and women.

Reagan would be embarrassed for the party....and I'm sure he would have found a way to express it. He would be standing by Paul Ryan, John McCain, and the rest of the establishment to try to put a front up against the insanity of Donald J. Trump.

You nominated someone more akin to George Wallace than Ronald Reagan

The fact that he will kick ass and name names and call a spade a spade is so wonderful to hear

Trump is all talk. He's not going to kick anybody's ass...all he will do is threaten it over and over again, and then walk away and go back to his life hiring foreigners to build his buildings, making his cheap swag out of the country, and defending himself in court for committing fraud.

despite what the politicly correct crowd on CNN et all want you to believe. Win or lose, millions are loving every minute of Trumps full on assault on the crooked Democrat Party, and believe me, they are crooked as the day is long.

Yep, be proud for another version of Christine O'Donell.

The Republican party nominates people who can't win their election to prove some imaginary argument that nobody cares about but a minority in the party, and a VERY small minority of the country.

[Jana]

Reagan was nothing like Trump. Reagan would never have attacked John McCain or Paul Ryan. Trumps words about prisoners of war and to the Kahn family would have infuriated him. IMO, Reagan would have publicly rebuked Trump for attacking other Republicans, war heroes and their families. Reagan was also a person who wanted to unit the country, not insult Mexican Americans, Muslim Americans, Blacks, and women.

Reagan would be embarrassed for the party....and I'm sure he would have found a way to express it. He would be standing by Paul Ryan, John McCain, and the rest of the establishment to try to put a front up against the insanity of Donald J. Trump.

You nominated someone more akin to George Wallace than Ronald Reagan



Yep, be proud for another version of Christine O'Donell.

The Republican party nominates people who can't win their election to prove some imaginary argument that nobody cares about but a minority in the party, and a VERY small minority of the country.

Spot on.

[Memorex]

I agree Trump is not your ideal candidate by far. I also agree with FF that it's because of the long line of lying bastards on both sides that they ended up with him.

But for those questioning how the Republicans could go with him, just think that the Democrats have nominated the single most corrupt and dishonest politician in the history of America. And the blind support is troubling in what it says about America.

So here we are....

[Monker]

50 G.O.P. Officials Warn Donald Trump Would Put Nation’s Security ‘at Risk’

The guy is a ticking time bomb. Mark my words, the loss is going to be big in this election, and that's even against a problematic Democratic Party nominee.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/09/us/po ... trump.html

New York Times, huh? I see in Iran, Hillary has another body to add to her count. Of course, she will lie her way around that too. Trump is not an ideal choice, but at least he isn't the liar and sellout Clinton is.

The Iran thing is NOT TRUE. The truth is Iran knew about the scientist before the Emails were even released. There was PUBLIC discussion about him as far back as 2010. This was not some secret spy who had his cover blown by Clinton's Emails...that is simply a made up fairy tale by Drudge, and a Tweet by Tweet-happy Trump the Traitor.

So, Trump in his typical ignorant fashion grabbed onto an Internet rumor and repeated it as truth. Then idiots like you take it as truth and repeat it as fact - WHEN IT IS NOT.

So, why are you not calling Trump the liar that he is? You can Google it and know the truth so easily it just shows that you don't give a damn about the real world. You would rather live in this fantasy world that Trump is creating for you that everything is Clinton's fault.

Now, the 50 REPUBLICAN's who came out against Trump is true. I just saw an interview with one of them on CNN. Trump is in REAL trouble. This isn't bias polls. This is a candidate who is not fit to be President. A candidate that Republicans nominated on the flimsiest of reasons. A candidate that people like you wholeheartedly support despite the inability to comprehend the duties as shown by HIS OWN ACTIONS AND WORDS. When REPUBLICANS are repeating Clinton's words, "Temperamentally unfit to be President," there is more there than just typical politics. The guy should not even be there as a nominee. Everybody knows, but only some are saying it.

And, it is shit like the Iran thing that is causing people like those 50 Republicans to jump ship. Trump has ADMITTED that his sources are mainly the Internet and his own brain...and he has a good brain that supposedly knows more then the generals. Uh, no, he doesn't...Obviously.

[Monker]

I agree Trump is not your ideal candidate by far. I also agree with FF that it's because of the long line of lying bastards on both sides that they ended up with him.

I don't agree with that. I think it was also the fact the Republicans early on in the primary did not effectively engage Trump in his nutty debate. They either tried to ignore him, or went even lower than he did. They simply did not take him very seriously. By the time they did, only Ted Cruz was left....and the party HATES Ted Cruz...so either way they lost.

The fact is that a minority of the Republican party got him nominated...and Trump has failed to unite the rest of the party behind him. That is a real problem. Maybe an "outside guy" is what they wanted...but, they chose the wrong guy.

And, I'll say it again. Elections are not won by negativity alone. That is the campaign Trump is running now. Demonizing Clinton is not going to win him the Presidency.

But for those questioning how the Republicans could go with him, just think that the Democrats have nominated the single most corrupt and dishonest politician in the history of America. And the blind support is troubling in what it says about America.

Not true. That person would be David Duke...and he is running for Senate again, and again as a Republican. In fact, he has said the Trump campaign has made him more acceptable...that their support overlaps. Wow, a KKK Grand Wizard and Nazi sympathizer is made more acceptable because of Donald J. Trump....I am just all shocked and stuff like that.

http://www.npr.org/2016/08/05/488793451 ... nald-trump

As for the choice between Clinton/Trump. With Clinton, you know exactly what you're getting. With Trump, he is so erratic and changes his views every other day, and believes crap on the internet and what his wonderful brain tells him are more factual and better advice than what experienced generals would tell him...you simply don't know what he is going to do....Especially when the proposals he has made so far are impossible to implement, and he already backed on some: banning all Muslims, and now his tax plan has changed. The guy simply has no clue what he is doing and what he is doing constantly changes - you don't know what you are going to get.

[Monker]

Monker

Trump won, digest that.

Digest Trump? I don't have to digest him....I'm not a Republican. The rest of the Republican party has to...and many of them are having a hard time doing it.

What are you going to do if in November Republicans lose the Presidency, the Senate, and many of the gains in House? That IS where this is headed....you won't admit it, but you know it.

Trump should go back to selling steaks...I'm sure he did a better job of that.

[Boomchild]

In this video linked below, Steven Crowder talks about a well know YT channel that is supposed to represent "moderate" Islam. What he finds is very interesting. Here is the link in case you care to watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvULsFhhRMA

[Memorex]

David Duke is an asshole and idiot. I really never followed him, so I don;t know his level of corruption. But I seriously doubt it comes even close to Hillary. I'm talking about lying, manipulation, corruption, etc. No one in politics can touch her. But you can't talk on that. You can't address Hillary. All you can do is talk about Trumps flaws. And there are many. But Hillary, on her own merits is just simply the single most corrupt and morally bankrupt politician I've ever witnessed. She is every single thing that is wrong with our system. I'm not saying Trump is our answer. But it's people like Hillary have created the current system and environment.

You say you don't agree with my assessment. That's the funny thing about facts. They are there even when you don't agree. You know as well as I do that I can put a laundry list of things together that Hillary has said/done/been involved in that would be multitude times larger than anyone you could mention. And so say it all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that I'm right. And this lazy "but Trump..." doesn't change it either.

[JBlake]

Monker says," The Iran thing is NOT TRUE. The truth is Iran knew about the scientist before the Emails were even released. There was PUBLIC discussion about him as far back as 2010. This was not some secret spy who had his cover blown by Clinton's Emails...that is simply a made up fairy tale by Drudge, and a Tweet by Tweet-happy Trump the Traitor."

Wikleaks was the one to release the emails. Clinton was that stupid and sloppy, and outted a CIA agent. It's out there and it's true. After selling 25% of America's Uranium rights to Russia for pure Clinton proffit, Monker calls Trump a traitor.

I stopped attempting conversation with the moron a long time ago, because spending time and effort trying to is completely useless/pointless.

[YoungJRNYfan]

50 G.O.P. Officials Warn Donald Trump Would Put Nation’s Security ‘at Risk’

The guy is a ticking time bomb. Mark my words, the loss is going to be big in this election, and that's even against a problematic Democratic Party nominee.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/09/us/po ... trump.html

Agreed. Trump is a trainwreck. Hillary is driving that same train. It's going to be funny when Hillary Clinton is our president from the sheer conclusion of her competition being even more incompetent and dangerous as what she already proved to be. That's how wrong Trump is as a Presidential nominee. The American people proved that when America is in their own turmoil, they would rather deal with more of the same than to completely go awol in the opposite direction. Problem is, Trump is no direction. He's completely off the map. Total loon. Regardless, this election is going to be historic for all the WRONG reasons, no matter who wins in November.

[JBlake]

The liberals and demcraps are up in arms talking about Trump saying that second amendment rights people may do "something" about that smelly douche bag Hillary. He's saying that Second Amendment Rghts people really need to get out and vote? Hey Liberals and democraps, he's not saying for someone to go out and JFK the fucking bitch, as you are acting like.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Don't let Trump fool you. All he's doing is putting on a good WWE promo. Vince McMahon I'm sure will have a job waiting for him in the wrestling business when it's all said and done. He'd probably be more successful in the business of faking things anyhow. His speeches and interviews are obviously a joke. He's not taking any of this shit serious. You're delirious and have your head so far up either a Donkey or Elephants ass if you can't see it.

[JBlake]

Pretty interesting news about the claim the guy recently murdered in DC was a source of the DNC leaked emails/information.
What do you make of that?

[JBlake]

You see J. Blake, Trump can't slip up. It's not allowed. Hillary can say,"I'm going to raise taxes on the middle class", well, that was a mistake. Trump isn't allowed that. It's called the liberal double standard. Of course Trump also doesn't have the laundry list of lies and Corruption investagations Hillary does either. Like I said, with liberals, it's Party before Country.

Oh yes, Liberal & democrap double standards. Double standards and hypocrisy is what actually defines them all the way across the board. Take for instance, ever notice that if a person refers to a person as "Black", they are racist, yet, the same batch of PC Cadets will refer to someone as "black" when using their "color" to justify "entitlements". Take for instance "Black Lives Matter". It's ok to call them "black" there. According to the PC Cadets, shouldn't it be "African-American Lives Matter"?

[YoungJRNYfan]

You see J. Blake, Trump can't slip up. It's not allowed.

It's hard to slip up when you can't even stand on your own two feet. Trump is the equivalent of a toddler rolling back and forth on their stomach with their head banging off the ground. When microphones are in his face, it's actually scary to think the past 15 years could potentially be a breeze in comparison to what this dude could do as President of the United States. How the HELL could a nominee be deemed dangerous when you're going up against Hillary fucking Clinton? This is what this election has cooked up. The current state of the US is in dire slumps and the best we could do to fight the current administration is nominate a man best suited for Monday morning soap opera's? Trump is nothing but a 'Bold and the Beautiful' villain. It's one thing to despise Hillary. That's warranted. It's another despising her in favor of Donald Trump. That isn't warranted in any stretch of the imagination. I feel bad for these next 4 years but as I said.....more of the same would do rather than "Holy shit what have we done?" That's what the potential Trump brings and it's not what America needs right now. Seriously,what the fuck has this shit come to?

[JBlake]

You see J. Blake, Trump can't slip up. It's not allowed.

It's hard to slip up when you can't even stand on your own two feet. Trump is the equivalent of a toddler rolling back and forth on their stomach with their head banging off the ground. When microphones are in his face, it's actually scary to think the past 15 years could potentially be a breeze in comparison to what this dude could do as President of the United States. How the HELL could a nominee be deemed dangerous when you're going up against Hillary fucking Clinton? This is what this election has cooked up. The current state of the US is in dire slumps and the best we could do to fight the current administration is nominate a man best suited for Monday morning soap opera's? Trump is nothing but a 'Bold and the Beautiful' villain. It's one thing to despise Hillary. That's warranted. It's another despising her in favor of Donald Trump. That isn't warranted in any stretch of the imagination. I feel bad for these next 4 years but as I said.....more of the same would do rather than "Holy shit what have we done?" That's what the potential Trump brings and it's not what America needs right now. Seriously,what the fuck has this shit come to?

Please post up a video showing what you have explained you see Trump doing at the mic cause I've not seen that yet. Just wait until Hillary has to debate with Trump. That bitch will go critical, like as in Chernobyl. Every other question that bitch will have to leave the stage to take a 20 minute piss break. Meltdown Mary.

[Monker]

You say you don't agree with my assessment. That's the funny thing about facts. They are there even when you don't agree. You know as well as I do that I can put a laundry list of things together that Hillary has said/done/been involved in that would be multitude times larger than anyone you could mention. And so say it all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that I'm right. And this lazy "but Trump..." doesn't change it either.

My point is there are people FAR more dangerous than Clinton out there in politics. You say she is 'corrupt', but IMO, I think much of what is said on that subject is very exaggerated or is simply some sort of 'guilt by association'. She may be 'corrupt' but I do not believe it is to the level that you or other people on this forum insist.