President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[JBlake]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_polling_for_U.S._Presidential_elections

Scroll down to 1980 poll.

Carter was way ahead early on, Feb thru June, but after July Reagan steadily made up ground until eventually winning by 51 to 41 over Carter.

Thanks FF.

BTW, I'm noticing in nearly all search engines that I utilize, there's these "I'm with her, add my name, Click Here" icons for Hillary. I suspect that's the source of where all of these Hillary "poll" numbers/figures are coming from. I've yet to see any of those for Trump.

[JBlake]

What a speech! Powerful stuff last night in Milwaukee, do yourself a favor if you didn't see it, only 38 minutes. Trump kicks ass and names names.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5qYf7uRGruY

Thanks for posting this link. I've watched the first 5 minutes but will get back to it a bit later when time allows.

BTW, Wonder what Oprah thinks of that old clip of when she interviewed him on her show back in '88. Wonder if she is happy he was on her show or if she regrets having him on the show. I thoroughly admired his dialog he shared while on her show.

[Monker]

As much as Monker tries to spin it, Trump is drawing thousands to Clintons uncovered by the Media hundreds.

Scroll back to six months ago where TNC was saying THE EXACT SAME THING about Bernie Sanders...and I said it does not matter how many people show up at a rally if they don't vote.

No one goes to an evening of speeches to be entertained.

Most of the time, Trump just goes up there and 'wings it', without a teleprompter...and he says incredibly stupid things. It's entertainment. It's like you saying, "Nobody goes to a dozen cars drive around in circles." Correct, they go to see a crash, or for some drama filled moment of two or more cars fighting for the lead. Trump attracts crowds for the same reasons, to watch the next crash or drama filled moment.

The Media is doing all it can to keep Clinton off the screen.

Just a few weeks ago you all were posting how Trump had been manipulating and dominating the media and Clinton could not get on it. Now that Trump has fallen and can't get up, it's media bias that holds him back. What a bunch of bullshit. It's his crazy fucked up words and actions that is reported on. Clinton doesn't NEED to be on the media because Trump is committing suicide with his own words and actions.

Trump should start hammering her to release her health records, but in Clinton style, I'm sure they have phoney records and doctors bought off.

That will never happen because Clinton would release them and then demand Trump release his taxes...which he will never do because he probably paid 0 taxes.

I still can not believe that Americans have a desire to vote for someone who won by cheating, been caught lying and cheating to cover lining her pockets, and acted in treasonist acts for self gain. Again, monker compares someone scamming money to selling out American Uranium. Pathetic!

Stop believing the lies and bullshit from Trump.

Here is the facts about the uranium:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... n-got-pai/

To sum up:

The US doesn't produce much uranium...it imports most of it.
Russia does not have an export license so it is a LIE to say the uranium is now Russia's....it has to stay in the US.
The State Department was one of NINE federal agency's that had to approve the deal. The Secretary of State alone was NOT solely responsible.
The deal needed approval of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission...which is INDEPENDENT OF THE GOVERNMENT.
Almost all of the donations to the Clinton Foundation occurred TWO YEARS before the deal to purchase the uranium.

Even the author of "Clinton Cash" said he had no direct evidence that linked Clinton to advocating for the deal.

The State Department’s principal representative on the committee, Jose Fernandez, told Time that Clinton "never intervened with me on any CFIUS matter."

So, quit repeating the bullshit and lies that Trump spews forth on an almost daily basis. Last time it was that Clinton's Emails outed an Iranian spy - LIE. Now, it's this bullshit about Clinton being responsible for this uranium deal - bullshit.

Start vetting these things because Trump is a habitual liar.

[Monker]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_polling_for_U.S._Presidential_elections

Scroll down to 1980 poll.

Carter was way ahead early on, Feb thru June, but after July Reagan steadily made up ground until eventually winning by 51 to 41 over Carter.

If you can't see the huge difference between Feb thru June and August thru November, then there is no hope for you.

[JBlake]

Reading all the Clinton/SOS dealings and Nigeria. Wow, those people in that country are living worse off then flies live in the US but the Clinton Crime Clan is really whipping up lots of money while "taking" control of lots of land over there. Got to hand it to the Clintons and their establishment, they are really good with other people's money. Like OPP, it's OPM with the Clintons. Fuck! The Clinton's would have made picture perfect slave owners/operators had they been around back then. Now their just great at playing the game of Monopoly with everyone else's money, at the expense of everyone else.

I think I'm just going to take a ton of Bill and Hilary clips, throw them together and add this song to the audio track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xGuGSDsDrM

Hillary takes Other People's Property (Money)
Bill takes other People's Property (Pussy)

[JBlake]

Trump is the equivalent of a toddler rolling back and forth on their stomach with their head banging off the ground.

Well I watched the speech FF posted of Trump last night. I have to say that I didn't see any of what you're describing Trump of doing. Can you point out the time he did what you're saying he's doing? Posting a vid of it would be very helpful.

[steveo777]

Obama care, the lie of the decade. It's a train wreck and most of the sane people knew it would be going into it.

[Monker]

You are such a dumb-ass. you couldn't have even read the links you posted. I read the first two, and that was enough to prove to me that you are an idiot who just posts random bullshit.

the first link from Business Insider essentially said EXACT WHAT I POSTED. There is no evidence of quid pro quo, that Clinton alone could not approve the deal, blah, blah, blah. In other words, there is nothing to back up this accusation

The NY Times article went into a lot of boring detail about the deal, but it essentially said the same thing.

NEITHER article accused Clinton of treason. You are a LIAR. This is the SECOND time you lied about this issue. And, the third LIE you have promoted in the past few weeks. You LIE almost as much as Trump himself.

As far as Trump promoting this issue, IT'S ON HIS FUCKING WEBSITE - moron!
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-rele ... e-scrutiny

Grow the hell up and don't believe all of the bullshit PROPAGANDA you read and hear.

http://www.businessinsider.com/everything-we-know-about-the-hillary-clinton-russia-uranium-scandal-2015-4

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/ca ... mpany.html

http://www.npr.org/2015/04/23/401781313 ... um-company

http://www.infowars.com/more-clinton-fo ... -of-state/

That's just the first four of 3,990,000. Funny, not a mention of Trump anywhere. Just treason by the Clintons.

Hillarys live appearences are being kept off the air because she comes accross like what she is, a uppity bitch. Trump knocked it out of the park last night. Of course you had to watch Fox to see it. Clinton, like Obama, is heavelly scripted, Trump is just plain better. If Trump is saying something that pisses you off Monker, then he's on the right track.

As far as your Sanders remark, are you admitting that Clinton has this election fixed like she did when Sanders voters got screwed?

[Boomchild]

Obama care, the lie of the decade. It's a train wreck and most of the sane people knew it would be going into it.

Oh say it isn't so. You mean it hasn't lowered peoples cost of coverage like B.O. said it would? That the insurance companies participating in the state exchanges are dropping like flies? Big surprise!

[steveo777]

Obama care, the lie of the decade. It's a train wreck and most of the sane people knew it would be going into it.

Oh say it isn't so. You mean it hasn't lowered peoples cost of coverage like B.O. said it would? That the insurance companies participating in the state exchanges are dropping like flies? Big surprise!

Wait until Blue Cross pulls out, which they are talking about. Everybody knew this was going to happen. Well, everybody but Monker.

One can't see too well, when their lips are wrapped around B.O.'s crank or has nose in Clinton's crack.

[JBlake]

Obama care, the lie of the decade. It's a train wreck and most of the sane people knew it would be going into it.

Oh say it isn't so. You mean it hasn't lowered peoples cost of coverage like B.O. said it would? That the insurance companies participating in the state exchanges are dropping like flies? Big surprise

Wait until Blue Cross pulls out, which they are talking about. Everybody knew this was going to happen. Well, everybody but Monker.

One can't see too well, when their lips are wrapped around B.O.'s crank or has nose in Clinton's crack.

Hahahaha....Yeah, taking it all the way to the balls!

[S2M]

There's nothing worse, IMHO, than a voter who votes chalk. All Democrat, or all Republican.

Vote the issues, not the party.

Do not come across like Hannity. If The Purge were a real thing, I'd be hunting down that despicable fuck, Sean Hannity.

A few in this thread are towing the party line....are you are looking mighty uneducated. Just saying.

[Boomchild]

I thought alot of this was horseshit until about the 5:20 mark. Then some interesting things popped up. The first 5 minutes I took as copy and paste to make a point like liberals do all the time. The eppi pen is interesting. The coments down below are good a laugh though. Gee, I wonder what Monker will say. And Steve 777, spot on with your last post, mister!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kmRB4a33_o

That eppi/valium pen is really a flashlight, I saw video of him leading her out the dark tunnel with it at convention. We need to be careful with this shit.

Here is another discussion about the state of Hillary's health. There is talk about what that pen thing was but they were not being conclusive about it. For me this discussion does raise some reasonable questions that do deserve answers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZDcMvtFRZc

[Monker]

I thought alot of this was horseshit until about the 5:20 mark. Then some interesting things popped up. The first 5 minutes I took as copy and paste to make a point like liberals do all the time. The eppi pen is interesting. The coments down below are good a laugh though. Gee, I wonder what Monker will say. And Steve 777, spot on with your last post, mister!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kmRB4a33_o

What I say is that I don't give a damn about your fantasies of Clinton carrying an epi-pen. Pervert.

[Monker]

Even the articles you posted said there is no proof that Clinton tried to influence this deal. NONE. All you are doing is repeating a bunch of circumstantial bullshit.

You IGNORE the fact that OTHER government agencies had to approve this deal besides just the State Department.
You IGNORE the fact that there is NO evidence that Clinton tried to influence those other agencies.
You IGNORE the fact that the NRC had to give final approval of this deal...not Clinton.
You IGNORE the fact that there is NO evidence that Clinton tried to influence the NRC.
You IGNORE the fact that Russia needs an export license to do anything with this uranium anyway...they can't even remove it from the US....so it is not really "there's" anyway.

You are a fucking ignor-amus just going with whatever you are told to go with despite what reality shows. EVEN IF those donations were made to influence Clinton and this deal....there is absolutely NO EVIDENCE that it had any influence at all.

You are such a dumb-ass. you couldn't have even read the links you posted. I read the first two, and that was enough to prove to me that you are an idiot who just posts random bullshit.

the first link from Business Insider essentially said EXACT WHAT I POSTED. There is no evidence of quid pro quo, that Clinton alone could not approve the deal, blah, blah, blah. In other words, there is nothing to back up this accusation

The NY Times article went into a lot of boring detail about the deal, but it essentially said the same thing.

NEITHER article accused Clinton of treason. You are a LIAR. This is the SECOND time you lied about this issue. And, the third LIE you have promoted in the past few weeks. You LIE almost as much as Trump himself.

As far as Trump promoting this issue, IT'S ON HIS FUCKING WEBSITE - moron!
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-rele ... e-scrutiny

Grow the hell up and don't believe all of the bullshit PROPAGANDA you read and hear.

http://www.businessinsider.com/everything-we-know-about-the-hillary-clinton-russia-uranium-scandal-2015-4

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/ca ... mpany.html

http://www.npr.org/2015/04/23/401781313 ... um-company

http://www.infowars.com/more-clinton-fo ... -of-state/

That's just the first four of 3,990,000. Funny, not a mention of Trump anywhere. Just treason by the Clintons.

Hillarys live appearences are being kept off the air because she comes accross like what she is, a uppity bitch. Trump knocked it out of the park last night. Of course you had to watch Fox to see it. Clinton, like Obama, is heavelly scripted, Trump is just plain better. If Trump is saying something that pisses you off Monker, then he's on the right track.

As far as your Sanders remark, are you admitting that Clinton has this election fixed like she did when Sanders voters got screwed?

"Hillary Clinton says the State Department, when she was secretary, did not do favors for foreign interests in exchange for donations to the Clinton Foundation. She was denying accusations in a forthcoming book titled "Clinton Cash: The Untold Story Of How And Why Foreign Governments And Businesses Helped Make Bill And Hillary Rich." The author is a former fellow at the conservative Hoover Institution. The Clinton camp calls it an attack and a distraction. Well The New York Times reports today on certain donations to the Foundation, and also a half-a-million-dollar speaker's fee to former President Bill Clinton back in 2005. And the report links those payments to parties with an interest in getting the U.S. government to approve foreign ownership of some American uranium mines. Jo Becker is one of The New York Times reporters who wrote this story. Welcome to the program."

"The headline on the website Pravda trumpeted President Vladimir V. Putin’s latest coup, its nationalistic fervor recalling an era when its precursor served as the official mouthpiece of the Kremlin: “Russian Nuclear Energy Conquers the World.”

The article, in January 2013, detailed how the Russian atomic energy agency, Rosatom, had taken over a Canadian company with uranium-mining stakes stretching from Central Asia to the American West. The deal made Rosatom one of the world’s largest uranium producers and brought Mr. Putin closer to his goal of controlling much of the global uranium supply chain.

But the untold story behind that story is one that involves not just the Russian president, but also a former American president and a woman who would like to be the next one.

At the heart of the tale are several men, leaders of the Canadian mining industry, who have been major donors to the charitable endeavors of former President Bill Clinton and his family. Members of that group built, financed and eventually sold off to the Russians a company that would become known as Uranium One."

"As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors. Other people with ties to the company made donations as well."

Monker, after you have someone read these snippets from each artical I posted, have them explain it to your stupid assed self. I've seen dumbshits before, but you excel.

Here monker, heres one with pictures and speaking. Will that help?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6p8PvyVd_o

[Boomchild]

So have you heard this one for Hillary's private email server while SOS? She told the FBI that Colin Powell "advised" her to use a private email server. Gee it's always someone else's fault and ideas.Priceless.

[S2M]

It appears the Obysmal administration hasn't seen '13 Days', or is unfamiliar with the Cuban Missile Crisis...

You get the hostages released now...and send the fucking 400 million in 6 months...so the 2 things appear unrelated.

[Monker]

"Even the articles you posted said there is no proof that Clinton tried to influence this deal. NONE. All you are doing is repeating a bunch of circumstantial bullshit.

You IGNORE the fact that OTHER government agencies had to approve this deal besides just the State Department.
You IGNORE the fact that there is NO evidence that Clinton tried to influence those other agencies.
You IGNORE the fact that the NRC had to give final approval of this deal...not Clinton.
You IGNORE the fact that there is NO evidence that Clinton tried to influence the NRC.
You IGNORE the fact that Russia needs an export license to do anything with this uranium anyway...they can't even remove it from the US....so it is not really "there's" anyway.

You are a fucking ignor-amus just going with whatever you are told to go with despite what reality shows. EVEN IF those donations were made to influence Clinton and this deal....there is absolutely NO EVIDENCE that it had any influence at all."

". EVEN IF those donations were made to influence Clinton and this deal....there is absolutely NO EVIDENCE that it had any influence at all."

Monker , I'll cut you a break this time because I think Steve 777 was spot on about you. You ignore the FACT that Millions poured into the Clinton Foundation. Don't choke. On second thought, do. Obama would enjoy it.

Oh, please, you exaggerate to the point of calling this treason when there is no evidence that the donations and the approval of this deal are even related, no evidence that Clinton tried to inflience ANYBODY to approve of the deal. You are just a fucking liar, buying into other people's lies.

[JBlake]

Trump/Pence unloading supplies in Baton Rouge..

http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/19/trump ... ons-video/

Lil berry is..

Nice. I especially like that last part about Dookie Chute not there cause he's on vacation. Fuck he's on vacation. And the Hilldabitch must be going through a fresh new regiment of injections to treat all her bullshit. She's 68 years old. That's a long lifetime for those who've been on drugs during their youth and beyond. That bitch is past her due date for a good heart grabber and tumble down a long flight of cement stairs.

[Monker]

"Even the articles you posted said there is no proof that Clinton tried to influence this deal. NONE. All you are doing is repeating a bunch of circumstantial bullshit.

You IGNORE the fact that OTHER government agencies had to approve this deal besides just the State Department.
You IGNORE the fact that there is NO evidence that Clinton tried to influence those other agencies.
You IGNORE the fact that the NRC had to give final approval of this deal...not Clinton.
You IGNORE the fact that there is NO evidence that Clinton tried to influence the NRC.
You IGNORE the fact that Russia needs an export license to do anything with this uranium anyway...they can't even remove it from the US....so it is not really "there's" anyway.

You are a fucking ignor-amus just going with whatever you are told to go with despite what reality shows. EVEN IF those donations were made to influence Clinton and this deal....there is absolutely NO EVIDENCE that it had any influence at all."

". EVEN IF those donations were made to influence Clinton and this deal....there is absolutely NO EVIDENCE that it had any influence at all."

Monker , I'll cut you a break this time because I think Steve 777 was spot on about you. You ignore the FACT that Millions poured into the Clinton Foundation. Don't choke. On second thought, do. Obama would enjoy it.

Oh, please, you exaggerate to the point of calling this treason when there is no evidence that the donations and the approval of this deal are even related, no evidence that Clinton tried to inflience ANYBODY to approve of the deal. You are just a fucking liar, buying into other people's lies.

You are that stupid!

"But the untold story behind that story is one that involves not just the Russian president, but also a former American president and a woman who would like to be the next one.

At the heart of the tale are several men, leaders of the Canadian mining industry, who have been major donors to the charitable endeavors of former President Bill Clinton and his family. Members of that group built, financed and eventually sold off to the Russians a company that would become known as Uranium One."

"As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors. Other people with ties to the company made donations as well."

Yeah, and.....?

Again, Clinton is NOT the only person who had to approve this. Show me ANY evidence that she used her "powers" of being Secretary of State to influence these other agencies and the NRC. If you can't, then there IS NOTHING.

Just because somebody donates does not automatically mean that they have influenced that person in some specific way. That is simple common sense. There is absolutely no evidence that this deal passed because of her.

But, YOU have gone beyond even that and accused her of treason. That is just ludicrous. The deal doesn't affect US security AT ALL...it is simple ignorance to say that it does. Since you are so ignorant and believe the propaganda you read and refuse to fully take in the full articles that YOU posted, what should anybody expect from you except willful ignorance about any subject you decide to post about.

Besides all of that, when you really start looking at Russia's motivations, it most likely had nothing to do with what Uranium One was doing in the US, but their asserts in OTHER COUNTRIES....that is what Putin was most likely after.

Contrast this with Trump and his problems with Trump university in both Texas and Florida. He was being investigated by both states. So, he donates to both states attorney generals campaigns. So, both attorney generals drop the case. That is a direct correlation...he donates to somebody and they had affect on the Trump University investigation.

In this case, there is absolutely no direct affect that can be shown. Not only that, but the people asked said that Clinton was NOT trying to influence them. So, there is no real issue here, except what people like you want to invent in your head and demented mind.

[Memorex]

Yeah, and.....?

Again, Clinton is NOT the only person who had to approve this. Show me ANY evidence that she used her "powers" of being Secretary of State to influence these other agencies and the NRC. If you can't, then there IS NOTHING.

Just because somebody donates does not automatically mean that they have influenced that person in some specific way. That is simple common sense. There is absolutely no evidence that this deal passed because of her.

But, YOU have gone beyond even that and accused her of treason. That is just ludicrous. The deal doesn't affect US security AT ALL...it is simple ignorance to say that it does. Since you are so ignorant and believe the propaganda you read and refuse to fully take in the full articles that YOU posted, what should anybody expect from you except willful ignorance about any subject you decide to post about.

Besides all of that, when you really start looking at Russia's motivations, it most likely had nothing to do with what Uranium One was doing in the US, but their asserts in OTHER COUNTRIES....that is what Putin was most likely after.

Contrast this with Trump and his problems with Trump university in both Texas and Florida. He was being investigated by both states. So, he donates to both states attorney generals campaigns. So, both attorney generals drop the case. That is a direct correlation...he donates to somebody and they had affect on the Trump University investigation.

In this case, there is absolutely no direct affect that can be shown. Not only that, but the people asked said that Clinton was NOT trying to influence them. So, there is no real issue here, except what people like you want to invent in your head and demented mind.

It's totally ok for you to support Hillary. But for the love of God don't do it blindly.

http://www.infowars.com/chart-clinton-f ... pt-favors/

[Boomchild]

[Boomchild]

[Monker]

[
It's totally ok for you to support Hillary. But for the love of God don't do it blindly.

http://www.infowars.com/chart-clinton-f ... pt-favors/

There is only ONE ROW in this that relates to the Uranium One deal...and it is NOT saying that Clinton used her influence to push through the deal.

So, again, it's bullshit.

[Monker]

So what. This has NOTHING to do with the sale of Uranium One to Russia. Now you are talking about something COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

But, even this stuff is just bullshit:

"They and Hillary care about money. Kazakhstan has huge uranium resources and this dictator decides who they sell the uranium to. Forty-eight hours after this dinner – must have been some dinner – presto, Bill’s buddy Frank Giustra’s company scores big deals to get Kazakh uranium. And a few months later, guess what, bang, Frank Giustra donates $31.3 million to the fake Clinton Foundation."

HOW DID THE CLINTON's influence the deals to get Kazakh's uranium? Moron, that is how things get tied together. EVEN THE WRITER of this book admits there is no direct evidence that the Clinton's influenced anything. So, what the fuck does he mean it is "treason"? What an idiot.

"This is classic pay-to-play, but it gets worse. It gets much more dangerous for our country. Frankie Giustra’s company merges with an outfit called UraniumOne mostly controlled by Frank and his friends. UraniumOne then starts buying up uranium claims in the U.S. And presto, Frankie announces he’s donating 100 million bucks and half his future profits, that’s HALF HIS FUTURE MILLIONS IN PROFITS PARTLY FROM OUR URANIUM, to the fake Clinton Foundation."

LOL...again, SO WHAT. So, the dude donates to the Clinton's.....and the author IMPLIES and leaves it up to YOUR demented mind to fill in the blanks with your biased imagination....that is an area where their is NO PROOF that the Clinton's gave NO INFLUENCE over anything regarding the purchase of Uranium One by Russia.

You can make all the posts you want about questionable donations. They mean absolutely NOTHING if they are not followed up with proof that the Clinton's actually used their influence in a way that was beneficial to the donor. So far, the ONLY evidence of that regarding the sell of Uranium One to Russia is in YOUR imagination.

Watch monker switch to attacking sources.

"Probably the worst – which may well be treason in my opinion -- is the deal the Clintons engineered that ultimately gave Russia 20 percent or more – we’re not sure how much – of our U.S. uranium. You know what uranium is used for, right? It’s a strategic resource because it’s used for making nukes. And the cover there is it’s also used for nuclear energy fuel.



The scheme began in 2005 – these people play the long game, folks. Bill Clinton flies into Kazakhstan with his buddy Canadian multi-millionaire Frank Giustra – on Frank’s private plane. They have a cozy dinner with Kazakhstan’s dictator, a guy named Nursultan Nazarbayev. The man is a brutal tyrant who oppresses his people with torture, jailing dissidents, human trafficking, sexual slavery, the works. Bill Clinton and his pal Frank Giustra don’t care about human rights.

They and Hillary care about money. Kazakhstan has huge uranium resources and this dictator decides who they sell the uranium to. Forty-eight hours after this dinner – must have been some dinner – presto, Bill’s buddy Frank Giustra’s company scores big deals to get Kazakh uranium. And a few months later, guess what, bang, Frank Giustra donates $31.3 million to the fake Clinton Foundation.

This is classic pay-to-play, but it gets worse. It gets much more dangerous for our country. Frankie Giustra’s company merges with an outfit called UraniumOne mostly controlled by Frank and his friends. UraniumOne then starts buying up uranium claims in the U.S. And presto, Frankie announces he’s donating 100 million bucks and half his future profits, that’s HALF HIS FUTURE MILLIONS IN PROFITS PARTLY FROM OUR URANIUM, to the fake Clinton Foundation."

http://townhall.com/columnists/joyoverb ... y-n2205630

[Monker]

All of these critiques of Obama staying away from the floods are also bullshit.

I sat here watching the governor of LA on CNN saying he wanted Obama to stay away from the floods for at least two weeks. He explained by saying they just had a VP visit two weeks earlier and there is all kinds of crap they have to do for security and such...and he would much rather dedicate those resources to the flood. He said the President is welcome to visit if he wished, but it would be more appropriate to wait.

I find it incredibly hypocritical and wrong for critics to demand Obama ignore the wishes of the governor and visit anyway. It may "look bad" and give you idiots material for meme's and such. But, if he did visit, you same people would be critiquing it as a photo op, and ignoring the governor's wishes.

This isn't the same thing as Katrina, where W not only didn't visit but failed to help the people of the country in what was a NATIONAL crisis. If after weeks there are people on rooftops begging to be rescued, or just for food and water, then the President is to blame. If there is a mass evacuation to a football stadium, where rapes and other crime go rampant, when those types of things start happening - then blame Obama, just as I blame W for most of the issues after Katrina.

[Monker]

All of these critiques of Obama staying away from the floods are also bullshit.

I sat here watching the governor of LA on CNN saying he wanted Obama to stay away from the floods for at least two weeks. He explained by saying they just had a VP visit two weeks earlier and there is all kinds of crap they have to do for security and such...and he would much rather dedicate those resources to the flood. He said the President is welcome to visit if he wished, but it would be more appropriate to wait.

I find it incredibly hypocritical and wrong for critics to demand Obama ignore the wishes of the governor and visit anyway. It may "look bad" and give you idiots material for meme's and such. But, if he did visit, you same people would be critiquing it as a photo op, and ignoring the governor's wishes.

This isn't the same thing as Katrina, where W not only didn't visit but failed to help the people of the country in what was a NATIONAL crisis. If after weeks there are people on rooftops begging to be rescued, or just for food and water, then the President is to blame. If there is a mass evacuation to a football stadium, where rapes and other crime go rampant, when those types of things start happening - then blame Obama, just as I blame W for most of the issues after Katrina.

Won't fly Monker. Not after the way liberals ripped Bush for only doing a fly over instead of landing and screwing everything up on the ground with Katrina. Bush didn't want to pull the man power away, nor did he want to tie up what few working runways there were. This pales to Katrina. Obama was playing golf. I'm sure he'll have a great photo op. Trump was there. Donated a trailer of goods. Where's the skank?

Gee, I never critiqued W for the "flyby". And, I didn't mention it - YOU DID.

The problem with W wasn't the flyby. The problems is how HIS ADMINISTRATION handled the emergency. At one point he praises his FEMA director, and the next moment he fires him. And, the problems carried on for MONTHS. The federal response to Katrina was abysmal...and it's W's fault. Remember the first rule of leadership, "EVERYTHING is your fault."

W's response should not have been to just "stay out of the way", but to ensure the federal response was meeting what the crisis needed. And, Katrina was more than a state crisis...it crossed borders and affected multiple states....it was a NATIONAL crisis that needed a federal response.

Trump went there against the wishes of the governor...so his visit took away resources from the crisis. Yes, he donated "goods"...which the governor requested money. All of those "goods" have to be sorted and categorized and such...so it again takes up resources that were needed elsewhere. Donating money allows the Red Cross to be flexible with how to respond and put the asserts where they are needed most.

Clinton is respecting the governor's request, just as Obama did.

What Trump did was what a typical narcissist would do. He ignored what people were asking from him and instead gave them what he felt they needed. How arrogant of him to assume he knew what to give better than the people actually managing the crisis...at the same time, it benefited him politically.

And, what a hypcrite you are for saying Bush stayed out of the way...but you critique Obama and Clinton for doing the EXACT SAME THING. And, you even recognize that it would have screwed things up on the ground. Then, in the VERY NEXT SENTENCE, you insult Clinton for not being there. Do you even realize you are writing this bullshit?

[Memorex]

I find it odd that Hillary has no speeches/events planned in the near future. Usually candidates go very strong after the conventions. Trump seems to be gaining in the polls (some polls say anyway). He's +2 in the LA Times poll, has gained something like 10% with Hispanics in the last couple days and doubled his black support in a week or so.

Maybe all of that doesn't matter. Maybe Hillary's internals tell her she has all the swing states and she doesn't really need to be out there. I think she probably thinks it's safer if she stays quiet and waits for Trump to say something that the media will beat him up for. I just don't recall a candidate chilling like she is. I recall Obama's team was very confident in his internals against Romney but he was still out there like crazy trying to get reelected.

Maybe she is focused only on debate prep. Which would not be the dumbest idea.

I don't know. This is such an odd cycle. Many mainstream media polls make it sound like she has it locked up, but it seems all the energy and enthusiasm at events and social media are with Trump. She has her "Correct the Record" group which pays people to down-vote pro-Trump or anti-Hillary stuff and still he is killing her on social media. I read where she was paying people x cents per post with a budget of like six million dollars. Which by the way is illegal without a disclaimer on each post, but no one will do anything about it.

But again, you have to ask yourself, how bad must Hillary be to have the entire media absolutely out to get Trump at every turn and he's damn near tied with her.

[Memorex]

What is CNN implying here? I think they are not implying that all blacks are felons. I think they are simply saying all felons are black.

That's some racist shit right there man.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/08/20/polit ... index.html

[Boomchild]

All of these critiques of Obama staying away from the floods are also bullshit.

I sat here watching the governor of LA on CNN saying he wanted Obama to stay away from the floods for at least two weeks. He explained by saying they just had a VP visit two weeks earlier and there is all kinds of crap they have to do for security and such...and he would much rather dedicate those resources to the flood. He said the President is welcome to visit if he wished, but it would be more appropriate to wait.

I find it incredibly hypocritical and wrong for critics to demand Obama ignore the wishes of the governor and visit anyway. It may "look bad" and give you idiots material for meme's and such. But, if he did visit, you same people would be critiquing it as a photo op, and ignoring the governor's wishes.

This isn't the same thing as Katrina, where W not only didn't visit but failed to help the people of the country in what was a NATIONAL crisis. If after weeks there are people on rooftops begging to be rescued, or just for food and water, then the President is to blame. If there is a mass evacuation to a football stadium, where rapes and other crime go rampant, when those types of things start happening - then blame Obama, just as I blame W for most of the issues after Katrina.