OFFICIAL NFL Week by Week Thread:

[YoungJRNY]

What their saying in Cincy:

Another thing that could come into play is the fact that the Bengals and Jets could see each other two straight weeks. A Jets win would give them the fifth seed, meaning New York (8-7) would be making a trip here for a first-round game either Jan. 9 or 10.

"All those things, we're going to take all those things into consideration there," Lewis said.

The players say they will approach things in the same manner as the coaches if it means playing one half or the entire game.

"We're still trying to improve as a team and keep taking steps forward," safety Chris Crocker said. "You play to win first and foremost. We'll prepare as if each starter will play the whole game and then determine things as the game goes along."

Said defensive tackle Domata Peko, who has missed the last four games: "Whatever they feel like they want me to do. I've been gone 3-4 weeks and want to get back out there playing and get some snaps. If they want me to play a little bit or the whole game I want to get out there and hit someone."

As for the fact the Bengals will be in prime time for the first time this season, Lewis doesn't see the situation much different from how they have approached things the last three weeks and that the pressure is more on the Jets, who need to win to get into the postseason.

"They've got more on their shoulders than we do," Lewis said. "I think they have the pressure of having to win the football game to get into the playoffs, and so forth. I think our guys will be fine with it, I told them since the time we went to Minnesota it's like it's going to be the rest of the season and it's played out like that."

I'm calling it, Bungles beat Jets. Pats beat Texans. Going to be up to the Steelers to beat Miami.

Love it. Houston will beat NE and no playoffs for the Steelers.

I'm FAR more comfortable with the Patriots playing the first game. They win, they're in the higher seed. I believe Bellichick won't fold and go into the playoffs on a losing streak. It's just the way the Pats do things although Houston does indeed scare me and should scare anyone. Also, don't sleep on Oakland beating Baltimore. It's IN Oakland and Oakland played spoiler more times than one this season. It's going to be an interesting Week 17. I love the quote from Tomlin on NFL.COM

The Steelers defeated the Chargers (12-3), Vikings (11-4), Broncos (8-7) and Ravens (8-7) but lost to the Chiefs (3-12), Browns (4-11), Raiders (5-10) and Bears (6-9).

"This our bed. We're going to lay in it," Tomlin said. "We created this situation. What we are going to do is control what we can control, and that's our preparation of play for the game. We're not going to cry over spilled milk. If there's any level of disappointment in terms of how this thing unfolds, it's going to be on us.

[Enigma869]

If the Bungles are going to show nothing, don't you think the the Jets wouldn't want to do that as well?

There is one major flaw in your argument...The Jets MUST win the game to get into the playoffs. The Bengals can roll out their practice squad, lose by 100, and they're still in. Because of that, they truly don't have to put ANY gameplan together, at all, and if I were their coaches, that's the exact approach I'd take

[Enigma869]

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I'm FAR more comfortable with the Patriots playing the first game. They win, they're in the higher seed. I believe Bellichick won't fold and go into the playoffs on a losing streak. It's just the way the Pats do things although Houston does indeed scare me and should scare anyone.

A couple of points. You keep harping on the fact that the Patriots want the higher seed without really putting any thought into the reasoning. The higher seed of the two has to travel to San Diego if they win their first round game. The lower seed gets the Colts. In spite of the Colts record, I believe that they are a MUCH more beatable team than San Diego is. I am reasonably confident that both Belichick and especially Marvin Lewis much rather travel to Indy than across the country to play San Diego. Hell, Indianapolis is only about 90 miles away from Cincinatti, so it's a short bus trip. I'm telling you right now that in spite of your arguments to the contrary, neither Belichick nor Lewis want the higher seed. I think it's a moot point because both teams will lose and the Patriots will get the higher seed, whether they want it or not. The other point worth mentioning is that even if this game was remotely meaningful to the Patriots, Houston is the type of team they've struggled with all season long. The Patriots defense has been completely shredded by QB's who can throw the ball down the field all season long. Don't let Houston underachieving fool you. Matt Schaub can sling it with the best QB's in the entire league and Andre Johnson might be the best receiver in the NFL.

[YoungJRNY]

If the Bungles are going to show nothing, don't you think the the Jets wouldn't want to do that as well?

There is one major flaw in your argument...The Jets MUST win the game to get into the playoffs. The Bengals can roll out their practice squad, lose by 100, and they're still in. Because of that, they truly don't have to put ANY gameplan together, at all, and if I were their coaches, that's the exact approach I'd take

The thing is, these men are absolute professionals. They need to prepare and put in a game plan for these guys. Their job is to go out there and win football games, period. Judging by the way Cincy has played this last month or so, I know if I was Lewis I would NO WAY be satisfied with their play and head into the playoffs on that note. No way, no how. But it IS the Bungles and they are possibly satisfied with an appearance and will be in AWE. The Jets are coming into the game, without a doubt, like a ball of fiery KNOWING if they win, they see the same Bengals team. Wouldn't you think they are going to hold back also and take their chances with the same vanilla type procedures and hope that's enough in beating a squad full of backups at one point? They'll take their chances starting their men and hoping their starters are good enough to beat Cincy's bench with showing little. I think the Bengals will surprise and start their guys longer than what people might think. I think the Bengals need this W to carry them in the post season IMO.

[YoungJRNY]

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I'm FAR more comfortable with the Patriots playing the first game. They win, they're in the higher seed. I believe Bellichick won't fold and go into the playoffs on a losing streak. It's just the way the Pats do things although Houston does indeed scare me and should scare anyone.

A couple of points. You keep harping on the fact that the Patriots want the higher seed without really putting any thought into the reasoning. The higher seed of the two has to travel to San Diego if they win their first round game. The lower seed gets the Colts. In spite of the Colts record, I believe that they are a MUCH more beatable team than San Diego is. I am reasonably confident that both Belichick and especially Marvin Lewis much rather travel to Indy than across the country to play San Diego. Hell, Indianapolis is only about 90 miles away from Cincinatti, so it's a short bus trip. I'm telling you right now that in spite of your arguments to the contrary, neither Belichick nor Lewis want the higher seed. I think it's a moot point because both teams will lose and the Patriots will get the higher seed, whether they want it or not. The other point worth mentioning is that even if this game was remotely meaningful to the Patriots, Houston is the type of team they've struggled with all season long. The Patriots defense has been completely shredded by QB's who can throw the ball down the field all season long. Don't let Houston underachieving fool you. Matt Schaub can sling it with the best QB's in the entire league and Andre Johnson might be the best receiver in the NFL.

I get that, but it's pick your poison either way. The way I feel if I was N.E, no way do I want to travel to Indianapolis and take on a Colts team the way Manning is playing, in the dome in a frenzied crowd, hatred and rivalry as big as it is knowing damn well you can't COMPETE with that offense, more so of the defensive minded players. I think N.E CERTAINLY matches up better with San Diego and S.D showed signs early in season to where they could falter and crumble against a team like the Pats. You even said it that no matter what S.D does, they'll always have that "pussy" of a RB in LT and that "moron" of a coach in Turner to blow it. Bellichick VS Turner is a no brainier and the Pats would limit a shootout against S.D rather than INDY on the fast track.

But you said it yourself that both Cincy and N.E are one and done teams, so does it REALLY matter?

[Enigma869]

The way I feel if I was N.E, no way do I want to travel to Indianapolis and take on a Colts team the way Manning is playing, in the dome in a frenzied crowd, hatred and rivalry as big as it is knowing damn well you can't COMPETE with that offense,

Huh? They can't compete with the Colts offense? Really? You do realize that the Patriots lost to the Colts by one point, right? I won't even get into the 4th and 2 play, because whether they won that game or lost it by the one point they lost it by, it's beyond absurd to say that they can't compete. Apparently you didn't watch that game, because you wouldn't make such a ridiculous statement if you did. While Dallas Clark is better than Ben Watson is, I'll take Randy Moss and Wes Welker over Reggie Wayne and Pierre Garcon all day long! The other point I'll make is that the Patriots have a reasonably good running game and the Colts have one of the worst running games in the entire league. I don't necessarily believe that the Patriots will beat the Colts in a playoff game but saying they can't "compete" defies all logic, given the fact that I'm not sure these teams have played a single game in the past 5 years that hasn't been ultra competitive.

[Ehwmatt]

But you said it yourself that both Cincy and N.E are one and done teams, so does it REALLY matter?

I still wouldn't put it past this Pats team to somehow get it together for the playoffs much like the wildcard 05-06 Steeler SB winning team. That was a team that had serious holes and an average season by franchise standards that TURNED IT ON in a big way for the playoffs. I know the Patriots haven't shown great signs of life and even Pats fans aren't sold on them, and I'm not predicting anything outright, but I certainly wouldn't put it past this NE team to find a postseason spark.

[YoungJRNY]

The way I feel if I was N.E, no way do I want to travel to Indianapolis and take on a Colts team the way Manning is playing, in the dome in a frenzied crowd, hatred and rivalry as big as it is knowing damn well you can't COMPETE with that offense,

Huh? They can't compete with the Colts offense? Really? You do realize that the Patriots lost to the Colts by one point, right? I won't even get into the 4th and 2 play, because whether they won that game or lost it by the one point they lost it by, it's beyond absurd to say that they can't compete. Apparently you didn't watch that game, because you wouldn't make such a ridiculous statement if you did. While Dallas Clark is better than Ben Watson is, I'll take Randy Moss and Wes Welker over Reggie Wayne and Pierre Garcon all day long! The other point I'll make is that the Patriots have a reasonably good running game and the Colts have one of the worst running games in the entire league. I don't necessarily believe that the Patriots will beat the Colts in a playoff game but saying they can't "compete" defies all logic, given the fact that I'm not sure these teams have played a single game in the past 5 years that hasn't been ultra competitive.

N.E is a sleeper, no question and I'm not dying on them, but I'm talking about N.E's defense that can't compete. No way can that defense stop Manning and that quick strike, air attack offense and Bellichick KNOWS this. Brady and his offense played a helluva game against the Colts, but since that game ages ago, N.E has certainly stalled and had some major problems moving the ball against lesser opponents in the weeks after. New England can sling it, but like you said, no way can they compete against that offense that will SHRED the Pats secondary, much of what the Saints did and all the pressure would be on Brady to perform at his highest peak in a frenzied environment. I don't see it happening and the Colts would have the upper hand.

[YoungJRNY]

I don't necessarily believe that the Patriots will beat the Colts in a playoff game but saying they can't "compete" defies all logic, given the fact that I'm not sure these teams have played a single game in the past 5 years that hasn't been ultra competitive.

That sentence right there should tell you that N.E should go for the #3 seed and taking their chances with S.D rather than Indianapolis in the division round of the playoffs, in Indy.

[Enigma869]

N.E is a sleeper, no question and I'm not dying on them. I'm talking about N.E's defense. No way can that defense stop Manning and that quick strike, air attack offense and Bellichick KNOWS this. Brady and his offense played a helluva game against the Colts, but since that game ages ago, N.E has certainly stalled and had some major problems moving the ball against lesser opponents in the weeks after. New England can sling it, but like you said, no way can they compete against that offense that will SHRED the Pats secondary, much of what the Saints did and all the pressure would be on Brady to perform at his highest peak in a frenzied environment. I don't see it happening.

And Brady can shred the Colts defense every bit as much. Listen...a Colts/New England playoff game isn't going to end 9-6 like a Baltimore/Pittsburgh game. These two teams can actually score points at will. If these two teams play each other in the playoffs, I'd probably be picking the Colts. As for my "one and done" comment....I said they were one and done depending upon who their opponent is. I believe the Patriots can beat a first round opponent, whether it's the Jets, Ravens, Pittsburgh, Denver, or any other team you want to throw in there. Tom Brady hasn't lost a game at home in four years, so I like the guy's chances. It's when they have to go on the road for the second round that I don't like their chances. As for the Bengals, I believe the only team they have ANY shot of beating in the playoffs are the Jets. If they play the Jets, I'd pick them to win. There isn't another team in the playoffs that I would pick the Bengals to beat.

[Enigma869]

That sentence right there should tell you that N.E should go for the #3 seed and taking their chances with S.D rather than Indianapolis in the division round of the playoffs, in Indy.

Wrong. In the NFL teams like San Diego get over the hump eventually. They are due, more than ANY team in the entire NFL. I personally think the Chargers are going to the Super Bowl, so it's a team I'd rather not face until I abolutely have to.

[YoungJRNY]

That sentence right there should tell you that N.E should go for the #3 seed and taking their chances with S.D rather than Indianapolis in the division round of the playoffs, in Indy.

Wrong. It's the NFL teams like San Diego get over the hump eventually. They are due, more than ANY team in the entire NFL. I personally think the Chargers are going to the Super Bowl, so it's a team I'd rather not face until I abolutely have to.

I agree that S.D, out of ALL the 32 NFL teams, is the one due for a championship. Don't get me wrong, the Chargers are dead scary and can beat anyone in their path and they just might. I'm just saying as far as N.E, I believe they match up better with S.D and could control what they would want to do against S.D defensively rather than a shootout against Indy.

[Enigma869]

I'm just saying as far as N.E, I believe they match up better with S.D and could control what they would want to do against S.D defensively rather than a shootout against Indy.

I honestly don't think the matchups are that different, at all. Both Indy and San Diego are top 11 offenses and they're both top 5 passing offenses. Indianapolis is dead last in the NFL when it comes to rushing the ball and only Indy, Houston and Chicago have a worse running game than San Diego. As I said, they're pretty much the same team so I don't believe either team provides an advantage in terms of matchups for any of their opponents.

[YoungJRNY]

I'm just saying as far as N.E, I believe they match up better with S.D and could control what they would want to do against S.D defensively rather than a shootout against Indy.

I honestly don't think the matchups are that different, at all. Both Indy and San Diego are top 11 offenses and they're both top 5 passing offenses. Indianapolis is dead last in the NFL when it comes to rushing the ball and only Indy, Houston and Chicago have a worse running game than San Diego. As I said, they're pretty much the same team so I don't believe either team provides an advantage in terms of matchups for any of their opponents.

Difference is, no matter what the rank, is that S.D still has Tomlinson and could be balanced as far as play calling goes in certain situations and that benefits N.E into playing more complexed schemes. Against Indy, N.E lays all their chips on their secondary, the weakest link on the entire team since the Colts pretty much have 0 threat at running back. If N.E meets S.D then I can see it playing out like a 21-17 game rather than the N.E/Indy matchup of 35-34. We will see sooner or later.

[Enigma869]

Difference is, no matter what the rank, is that S.D still has Tomlinson .

Travis....you are seriously using Tomlinson as the difference maker? Fuck...have it your way and put the statistics aside and just watch the guy play. He is DONE, DONE, DONE, and ....DONE! The dude simply can't play and hasn't been a factor in the NFL in several years. Also, let's not forget the fact that the fucker usually doesn't even take the field in playoff games. If you want to say that Sproles might be the difference, I'll listen but going down the Tomlinson road is beyond absurd. The fucking guy ranks an astonishing 104th in the NFL (I didn't even know there were that many running backs in the NFL) in yards per carry, because he can't get out of his own way. There can't even be five fans in San Diego who believe that Tomlinson is ANY factor at all, at this point. I've watched the Colts and the Chargers play a lot this season. They're identical teams. Neither team is beating anyone with their putrid running game. They will both be successful based on Manning and Rivers, period, end of story!

[YoungJRNY]

Difference is, no matter what the rank, is that S.D still has Tomlinson .

Travis....you are seriously using Tomlinson as the difference maker? Fuck...have it your way and put the statistics aside and just watch the guy play. He is DONE, DONE, DONE, and ....DONE! The dude simply can't play and hasn't been a factor in the NFL in several years. Also, let's not forget the fact that the fucker usually doesn't even take the field in playoff games. If you want to say that Sproles might be the difference, I'll listen but going down the Tomlinson road is beyond absurd. The fucking guy ranks an astonishing 104th in the NFL (I didn't even know there were that many running backs in the NFL) in yards per carry, because he can't get out of his own way. There can't even be five fans in San Diego who believe that Tomlinson is ANY factor at all, at this point. I've watched the Colts and the Chargers play a lot this season. They're identical teams. Neither team is beating anyone with their putrid running game. They will both be successful based on Manning and Rivers, period, end of story!

I believe with having Tomlinson and Sproles as possible threats in the running game that it CERTAINLY changes the mind of what a defensive coordinator might use due to situation. Like I said, with the Colts, they have absolute NO THREAT at running back whatsoever. At least S.D has the option in situations to go to an L.T or Sproles if need be and that benefits N.E into playing a more balanced package on defense and could control and force S.D in playing more of a balanced game against the clock and that takes pressure off Brady and more importantly a shootout. You're right that both success stems off of Manning and Rivers but the Colts rely FAR more on Manning and the Colts certainly have a more potent style as far as striking quick from all over the place, esp on the fast track.

We obviously are seeing the same perception but view each scenario differently. I'm just saying, N.E and Indy are the NFL's premier rivalry and N.E should avoid that at all cost, esp traveling to Indy, a place where their defense got sliced and diced like a slasher flick. Like I said, we're going to find out how it unfolds and it'll be fun nonetheless.

[Ehwmatt]

Tomlinson is as good as fuckin Jamal Lewis at this point... I'm fuckin drunk you stupud motherfuckers! I'm gonna go on a roll on you fucks tomorrow, for now i need to get this stupid bitch out of my apartment you fuckers are done tomorrow when I get here

[YoungJRNY]

Tomlinson is as good as fuckin Jamal Lewis at this point... I'm fuckin drunk you stupud motherfuckers! I'm gonna go on a roll on you fucks tomorrow, for now i need to get this stupid bitch out of my apartment you fuckers are done tomorrow when I get here

Don't be a drunken douche and jump in Lake Erie, you'll freeze to death you dumbass. And don't impregnate anyone!

[Ehwmatt]

Tomlinson is as good as fuckin Jamal Lewis at this point... I'm fuckin drunk you stupud motherfuckers! I'm gonna go on a roll on you fucks tomorrow, for now i need to get this stupid bitch out of my apartment you fuckers are done tomorrow when I get here

And don't impregnate anyone!

Hell no, hell no, not this broad, not any broad for the time being

Gotta love it when every one else leaves and the hint (to leave) fails to be taken.

[YoungJRNY]

Tomlinson is as good as fuckin Jamal Lewis at this point... I'm fuckin drunk you stupud motherfuckers! I'm gonna go on a roll on you fucks tomorrow, for now i need to get this stupid bitch out of my apartment you fuckers are done tomorrow when I get here

And don't impregnate anyone!

Hell no, hell no, not this broad, not any broad for the time being

Gotta love it when every one else leaves and the hint (to leave) fails to be taken.

You seemed pretty F'ed up last night so I'm proud you didn't let out your rage on the chick you obviously aren't fond with. I thought for sure, even if the chick happened to look like Marilyn Manson, that you were going to nail her, I've seen the booze work that way many, many times. I'm proud you didn't set yourself up and give in!

[Ehwmatt]

Tomlinson is as good as fuckin Jamal Lewis at this point... I'm fuckin drunk you stupud motherfuckers! I'm gonna go on a roll on you fucks tomorrow, for now i need to get this stupid bitch out of my apartment you fuckers are done tomorrow when I get here

And don't impregnate anyone!

Hell no, hell no, not this broad, not any broad for the time being

Gotta love it when every one else leaves and the hint (to leave) fails to be taken.

You seemed pretty F'ed up last night so I'm proud you didn't let out your rage on the chick you obviously aren't fond with. I thought for sure, even if the chick happened to look like Marilyn Manson, that you were going to nail her, I've seen the booze work that way many, many times. I'm proud you didn't set yourself up and give in!

I was too fucked up to fuck anyway dude. I woke up at 7 this morning after goin to bed at 4ish I am HURTING bad today. Fuckin shakes. Worst hangover I've had in a while, not from a queasiness/headache standpoint, but just from a general feeling like ass standpoint. Just went to the store to pick up some last minute stuff for my trip to New Orleans tomorrow and I could barely even focus on finding toothpaste in the fuckin aisle

[Red13JoePa]

LOL good stuff matt....

[Ehwmatt]

Thanks, that's the one of the first times I've remembered to hop on here when I'm hammered in a while.

[YoungJRNY]

Thanks, that's the one of the first times I've remembered to hop on here when I'm hammered in a while.

If any deaths from the Cleveland region make its way to world wide news, we know why They are from the bare hands of Ehwmatt, community of Melodicrock.

[YoungJRNY]

So I was trying to find the thread to where we all made our predictions for the '09 season and came across this in a search, smack dab in the middle! It's dated in 2006.

Dude...you can't be this delusional! The Steelers are AWFUL this season! I applaud anyone for being a diehard fan, as I grew up in a city (Boston) where sports are EVERYTHING!!!!! That said, even I'm not delusional enough to think the Patriots are winning the Super Bowl this season! The Steelers had their moment last season. I hope you enjoyed it, because you won't see Big Ben in another Super Bowl again, in his career!

John from Boston

FAIL. Nice work JFB

[Ehwmatt]

So I was trying to find the thread to where we all made our predictions for the '09 seson and came across this in a search, smack dab in the middle! It's dated in 2006.

Dude...you can't be this delusional! The Steelers are AWFUL this season! I applaud anyone for being a diehard fan, as I grew up in a city (Boston) where sports are EVERYTHING!!!!! That said, even I'm not delusional enough to think the Patriots are winning the Super Bowl this season! The Steelers had their moment last season. I hope you enjoyed it, because you won't see Big Ben in another Super Bowl again, in his career!

John from Boston

FAIL. Nice work JFB

LOL Owned. A link to that thread would be great

[YoungJRNY]

So I was trying to find the thread to where we all made our predictions for the '09 seson and came across this in a search, smack dab in the middle! It's dated in 2006.

Dude...you can't be this delusional! The Steelers are AWFUL this season! I applaud anyone for being a diehard fan, as I grew up in a city (Boston) where sports are EVERYTHING!!!!! That said, even I'm not delusional enough to think the Patriots are winning the Super Bowl this season! The Steelers had their moment last season. I hope you enjoyed it, because you won't see Big Ben in another Super Bowl again, in his career!

John from Boston

FAIL. Nice work JFB

LOL Owned. A link to that thread would be great

Shit, I completely lost it's place and forget what I typed in the search. I think it was NFL predictions or something but there was some FUNNY ASS shit in there and some looks to be deja vu with the same things that are being said in here. Pretty funny. I'm bored as shit, and waiting for my girl to call to grab a bite for lunch, so I'm going to look over it again and post some good stuff If I come across it.

[Ehwmatt]

So I was trying to find the thread to where we all made our predictions for the '09 seson and came across this in a search, smack dab in the middle! It's dated in 2006.

Dude...you can't be this delusional! The Steelers are AWFUL this season! I applaud anyone for being a diehard fan, as I grew up in a city (Boston) where sports are EVERYTHING!!!!! That said, even I'm not delusional enough to think the Patriots are winning the Super Bowl this season! The Steelers had their moment last season. I hope you enjoyed it, because you won't see Big Ben in another Super Bowl again, in his career!

John from Boston

FAIL. Nice work JFB

LOL Owned. A link to that thread would be great

Shit, I completely lost it's place and forget what I typed in the search. I think it was NFL predictions or something but there was some FUNNY ASS shit in there and some looks to be deja vu with the same things that are being said in here. Pretty funny. I'm bored as shit and I'm waiting for my girl to call to grab a bite, so I'm going to look over it again and post some good stuff If I come across it.

Try and find it soon, I'm on my way to a hangover quelling Chipotle burrito myself pretty soon after this laundry goes through.

[YoungJRNY]

Another one from 2006.

There is another conference in the NFL???? Hmmmmmmm... And to think that I thought it was just the AFC! I think the Patriots win it all this season, and Belichick walks away at the end of the season. He has nothing left to prove, and has coached long enough. I also think if they win it again, it's time to re-name the Vince Lombardi trophy!

John From Boston

John's no homer OR fan boy AT ALL. (Or so he claims) Sound familiar? This season he picked the Pats to win it and claimed "order is restored in the NFL." Not to pick on John, he did make some great observations and later on picked the Bears to beat the Colts in the Super Bowl. Close, but no cigar.

Also during the 2006 season, the Steelers were TERRIBLE that season, and to no coincidence, I held on to the LAST game and went through all the mathematics for the Steelers to land a Wild Card. Too damn funny! And to think that year the Steelers missed it by a game as terrible as they were... hmmm eerie.

[Enigma869]

FAIL. Nice work JFB

Listen teenage Travis...

I promise you that if I picked apart every NFL thread that I would find just as many wrong predictions by you as I would by anyone else. My predictions aren't always right, but I'm probably right just as many times as the so-called "experts" are. The nature of making predictions is that you're going to get more than your share wrong. I didn't see you on this board predicting the Saints would lose to Dallas until three games after the game was over and then claiming that it was the biggest no brainer of the week (in spite of the fact it wasn't a pick you made)!