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Postby Deacon » Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:38 am

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I bet that douchenozzle hasn't watched Fox a day in his pathetic life.

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Postby separate_wayz » Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:10 pm

Rockindeano wrote:
Gibby wrote:just read in the new york daily news that obama's approval ratings are plummeting. honeymoon is over. 2012 election is going to be CRAZY!!!


LOL, no not a chance.

The electoral map now shows 5 states solidly red. 5! 37 are solidly blue. the remaining 8, 5 out of the 8 are leaning blue.

Landslides continue my friend, starting with the midterms in 2010.


If there will be landslides, they won't be for the party that controls the White House. In the so-called generic ballot for Congress, the GOP has pulled significantly ahead of the Democrats -- 43% to 38%. To put that into perspective, the Democrats had a 6% lead on election night in 2008 -- 41% to 47%. So that's a 11%-point swing since election night November 2008, a very big change.

Worse for the Democrats, the GOP is now preferred by both women (40%-39%) and men (47%-36%). Even worse still, independents now favor the GOP (43%-22%).

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... nal_ballot

These trends are very, very, very worrisome for Democrat political operatives. For comparison, in 1994, when the GOP took control of Congress in a dramatic fashion, Gallup had the GOP leading 51% to 44% (i.e., 7%-points) in the closing days of the campaign.

So, yes, landslides .... but not the way you're thinking.
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Postby RedWingFan » Sun Aug 09, 2009 2:19 am

Where'd all the Pro-Bamster libs go?????
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Postby Angel » Sun Aug 09, 2009 2:19 am

RedWingFan wrote:Where'd all the Pro-Bamster libs go?????

Maybe they're out looking for a job. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby RedWingFan » Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:47 am

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RedWingFan wrote:Where'd all the Pro-Bamster libs go?????

Maybe they're out looking for a job. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Shine the lights on them and the cockroaches go into hiding!!!
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Postby Rockindeano » Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:43 am

I noticed how none of you pusscocks are talking about good ole Karl Rove.

Naw, he didn't do nothin' wrong now did he?
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:53 am

Rockindeano wrote:I noticed how none of you pusscocks are talking about good ole Karl Rove.

Naw, he didn't do nothin' wrong now did he?


It was his JOB to advise, and he did. He also said it was the Justice Departments call...nice of you to parse what was actually said so that you can claim some kind of moral victory.

Besides, what is happening NOW is much more important.

The Healthcare fiasco is stalled and it looks like people are actually speaking up and letting the President and the congress know they don't want this.

Ahhh democracy! Gotta love it!
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Postby hoagiepete » Thu Aug 13, 2009 5:44 am

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Postby Eric » Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:27 am

Rockindeano wrote:I noticed how none of you pusscocks are talking about good ole Karl Rove.

Naw, he didn't do nothin' wrong now did he?


Desperate.
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Postby Rockindeano » Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:45 am

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Rockindeano wrote:I noticed how none of you pusscocks are talking about good ole Karl Rove.

Naw, he didn't do nothin' wrong now did he?


It was his JOB to advise, and he did. He also said it was the Justice Departments call...nice of you to parse what was actually said so that you can claim some kind of moral victory.

Besides, what is happening NOW is much more important.

The Healthcare fiasco is stalled and it looks like people are actually speaking up
and letting the President and the congress know they don't want this.


No, it's not stalled and people aren't speaking up about this. God, you're fucking stupid if you believe that. This is the work of a conservative few organizing chaos.

You people really are pathetic and you are the desperate ones. Disrupting town halls for the purpose of derailing something that the country needs is fcking cowardly. I say fuck all you Cons.
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Postby Rockindeano » Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:48 am

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Rockindeano wrote:I noticed how none of you pusscocks are talking about good ole Karl Rove.

Naw, he didn't do nothin' wrong now did he?


Desperate.


Desperate? You mean we should just sweep under the rug a guy who had US Attorney's fired because he was either investigating republican representatives or not investigating Democratic politicians for the sake of politicizing the electoral make up? God, look at yourselves? You aren't embarrassed to call yourself a republican? I would be. You stand for corruption, shenanigans and selfishness.
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Postby Saint John » Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:14 am

Being a conservative is simple. I want to reserve the right to make money, pay my fair share of taxes, and be left alone. I don't want my money paying for anyone else's fucking kids, their education, and/or their daycare. I don't give a fuck about welfare checks. Sink or swim. I'd rather let a motherfucker rot and die in the street than be mandated to give him/her one fucking dollar. Veterans, the handicapped and severe hardship cases not withstanding.

People need to be self-reliant. Foreigners come here with 20 fucking dollars and the inability to even speak the language and they fair far better than these inner-city, 2nd and 3rd generation goverment leeches. You know why? Because they have to! The Democrats need to stop "bribing" these inner-city maggots with the promise of free money, free food and every other service that comes out of my fucking pocket. I say repeal every free social service there fucking is.

The basic difference between conservatives and liberals is simple. The liberal base is one of largely populated concrete jungle cess pools like New York city, Detroit, L.A., Dallas, and every other gang-infested, drug-ridden large metropolitan hell on earth. Conservatives are generally independent, land owning, self sufficient citizens that want to be left the fuck alone. Yet they're labeled as "rich" bastards that are greedy. Working hard and making tons of money used to be the American dream. Now it's a shameful act and you're made to feel as though you've stepped on your fellow man and owe those that refuse to work some sort of reparation. Fuck them, fuck their welfare checks, fuck their government food cards and fuck their mothers too.
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Postby Rhiannon » Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:28 am

Saint John wrote:I don't want my money paying for anyone else's fucking kids, their education, and/or their daycare.


"If You Cant Feed Your Baby, Then Don't Have A Baby
And Don't Think Maybe, If You Can't Feed Your Baby
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People need to be self-reliant.


And accountable. This is 2009 in America and you can't tell me everyone doesn't have equal chance to have the life they want. It's all about how hard you're willing to work for it and how tough you are. Simple.

Conservatives are generally independent, land owning, self sufficient citizens that want to be left the fuck alone. Yet they're labeled as "rich" bastards that are greedy. Working hard and making tons of money used to be the American dream. Now it's a shameful act and you're made to feel as though you've stepped on your fellow man and owe those that refuse to work some sort of reparation.


More or less. Yep.

and fuck their mothers too.



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Postby JasonD » Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:43 am

Saint John wrote:Being a conservative is simple. I want to reserve the right to make money, pay my fair share of taxes, and be left alone. I don't want my money paying for anyone else's fucking kids, their education, and/or their daycare. I don't give a fuck about welfare checks. Sink or swim. I'd rather let a motherfucker rot and die in the street than be mandated to give him/her one fucking dollar. Veterans, the handicapped and severe hardship cases not withstanding.

People need to be self-reliant. Foreigners come here with 20 fucking dollars and the inability to even speak the language and they fair far better than these inner-city, 2nd and 3rd generation goverment leeches. You know why? Because they have to! The Democrats need to stop "bribing" these inner-city maggots with the promise of free money, free food and every other service that comes out of my fucking pocket. I say repeal every free social service there fucking is.

The basic difference between conservatives and liberals is simple. The liberal base is one of largely populated concrete jungle cess pools like New York city, Detroit, L.A., Dallas, and every other gang-infested, drug-ridden large metropolitan hell on earth. Conservatives are generally independent, land owning, self sufficient citizens that want to be left the fuck alone. Yet they're labeled as "rich" bastards that are greedy. Working hard and making tons of money used to be the American dream. Now it's a shameful act and you're made to feel as though you've stepped on your fellow man and owe those that refuse to work some sort of reparation. Fuck them, fuck their welfare checks, fuck their government food cards and fuck their mothers too.


I didn't read this entire thread & so if this has already been answered, that's cool. Just ignore my post or tell me to see page so-and-so.

That said, what do you propose they do with all the children born to those who don’t have the money to raise them? It’s not the child’s fault they’re born into that type of environment but there they are, so what exactly should be done with them? Do you believe there should be laws in place that call for the automatic removal of the child from the household? Should those children be put up for adoption? Should sterilization be mandated for people after reaching a certain age or after having a certain number of children or even those who fall below a certain income bracket?
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Postby donnaplease » Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:20 am

Saint John wrote: Working hard and making tons of money used to be the American dream. Now it's a shameful act and you're made to feel as though you've stepped on your fellow man and owe those that refuse to work some sort of reparation.


Excellent point!!!
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Postby Saint John » Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:36 am

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Saint John wrote:Being a conservative is simple. I want to reserve the right to make money, pay my fair share of taxes, and be left alone. I don't want my money paying for anyone else's fucking kids, their education, and/or their daycare. I don't give a fuck about welfare checks. Sink or swim. I'd rather let a motherfucker rot and die in the street than be mandated to give him/her one fucking dollar. Veterans, the handicapped and severe hardship cases not withstanding.

People need to be self-reliant. Foreigners come here with 20 fucking dollars and the inability to even speak the language and they fair far better than these inner-city, 2nd and 3rd generation goverment leeches. You know why? Because they have to! The Democrats need to stop "bribing" these inner-city maggots with the promise of free money, free food and every other service that comes out of my fucking pocket. I say repeal every free social service there fucking is.

The basic difference between conservatives and liberals is simple. The liberal base is one of largely populated concrete jungle cess pools like New York city, Detroit, L.A., Dallas, and every other gang-infested, drug-ridden large metropolitan hell on earth. Conservatives are generally independent, land owning, self sufficient citizens that want to be left the fuck alone. Yet they're labeled as "rich" bastards that are greedy. Working hard and making tons of money used to be the American dream. Now it's a shameful act and you're made to feel as though you've stepped on your fellow man and owe those that refuse to work some sort of reparation. Fuck them, fuck their welfare checks, fuck their government food cards and fuck their mothers too.


I didn't read this entire thread & so if this has already been answered, that's cool. Just ignore my post or tell me to see page so-and-so.

That said, what do you propose they do with all the children born to those who don’t have the money to raise them? It’s not the child’s fault they’re born into that type of environment but there they are, so what exactly should be done with them? Do you believe there should be laws in place that call for the automatic removal of the child from the household? Should those children be put up for adoption? Should sterilization be mandated for people after reaching a certain age or after having a certain number of children or even those who fall below a certain income bracket?


Excellent questions, Jason. And here's my theory for the vast majority of the aforementioned government dependent people. You have a mother, father or both that have a drug, alcohol and/or gambling problem and they don't want to work. The solution is simple; have kids. Kids=checks, food cards and the ability to collect free money. Guess where that money goes, Jason. Right to the liquor store, the local drug dealer, cigarettes and/or lottery tickets. Guess where it DOESN'T go...to the kids.

If you put an end to the free checks you'll see a massive shift in inner-city slum thinking. The NEW mindset will eventually become, "I can't have a child because he'll be my responsibility." Right now having a child is a free ride to money, food cards and a trip to the local vice satisfier of your choice. Take that money and implement mandatory classroom education dealing with drugs, teen pregnancy, personal responsibility and abstinence. And I'm talking year-round classes starting in grade school and ending in high school. Drill it into the heads of children and young adults every semester of every motherfucking year. Make classes like art and gym only for those with special talent or fat fucks. And there should be a comprehensive annual test at each grade level ensuring that it's getting through the heads of said children.
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Postby Eric » Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:54 am



The malls and clubs will be busy this weekend! You should hear some of these people's plans. This is disgusting.....I want my percentage back. If George Soros wants to treat people who had too many kids to the Red Lobster for whatever agenda he's pursuing....then fine....but we shouldn't have to.
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Postby Rhiannon » Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:59 am

In all honesty, this is silly. Of course its not the child's fault. Shit happens, and at the risk of sounding stone hearted I must ask... Why is it my [taxpayer] responsibility to burden the indescretion of others? It's not my fault people get knocked up. I work to survive, so can they.

I don't understand the mentality that other people's mistakes are my problem. Maybe if the government support were less available these people would understand what consequences are and practice a little more wisdom.

It is tragic for these kids, truly. But I don't bust my ass at work so whatsherface can bang random babydaddy number 5 this weekend. She's got a Chanel bag, weekly pedicures, and more clothes than Nordstrom but she's on foodstamps and doesn't work. Fuck her, those kids are her responsibility, not mine. Not all are like that, and those people *if* they work and work and still need help, deserve some. But no one should get a free ride. And that's what welfare has become (ask me how I know... I'm not proud of it but several family members on my mom's side are these public fund leeches).

If I wanted to raise kids, I'd have my own. And you bet your ass I could afford a decent life for them.
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Postby Eric » Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:00 am

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Eric wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:I noticed how none of you pusscocks are talking about good ole Karl Rove.

Naw, he didn't do nothin' wrong now did he?


Desperate.


Desperate? You mean we should just sweep under the rug a guy who had US Attorney's fired because he was either investigating republican representatives or not investigating Democratic politicians for the sake of politicizing the electoral make up? God, look at yourselves? You aren't embarrassed to call yourself a republican? I would be. You stand for corruption, shenanigans and selfishness.


Firstly...I love a good shenanigan. Secondly, selfishness aint great, but its arguably better for the economy than being a socialist in America. Corruption...are we talking about....Chicago roots of the Bama admin...ah yes you're correct!
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Postby Rockindeano » Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:05 am

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This Country doesn't need healthcare reform,


Why, because YOU already have it? Selfish bullshit. The current system is so great isn't it? :roll:

the ones who don't have it need to ponie up and buy some coverage like the rest of us.


The folks who clean shitters and flip burgers cannot afford it. And the flip side to why they can't, you Cons will argue tha a corporation also shouldn't be forced to even pay a minimum wage, let alone provide benefits. Hey, you're a great American! Turn your back on your fellow brothers and sisters, many whom have risked their lives fighting for you and your family's precious freedoms. Yeah, fuck them.

The problem with this socialistic crap is that eventually you run out of other peoples money. (thanks Lady Thatcher) Millions of people think just like St. John and myself and we are not a few organizing chaos.


You two are complete douchebags for your way of "thinking." It's selfish and bigoted. I have no use to know anyone who thinks that way. Why don't you tough sumbitches go enlist in the military? Oh, you don't do that kind of shit, right? Let the less fortunate go to Iraq. Just sit back and keep "your" money."

See my sig.."When you rob Peter to pay Paul you'll end up with a sore peter." Treat this like a sore dick Deano, don't fuck with it. And for crying out loud quit calling conservatives Nazis,Mobs and Domestic Terrorists just because we don't agree to give up more of our hard earned cash to those who won't put some skin in the game as The Won so eloquently says.


Your sig sickens me. It's Un American. And if you say it is America, then I say to Hell with America.
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Postby Rockindeano » Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:29 am

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Your sig sickens me. It's Un American. And if you say it is America, then I say to Hell with America.



So you believe "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs?"

Just say it. Like I said above. It's all communal money, that is what you want and believe. We are all equal and those who work owe those who dont/wont. Just say so.


No, not completely. I believe a balance can be achieved, where Government can and should participate in economics and social distribution, but capitalism should also be the mainstay of the economy in general. Some things the private industry just won't and can't do.
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Postby Rockindeano » Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:47 am

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I believe a balance can be achieved, where Government can and should participate in economics and social distribution, but capitalism should also be the mainstay of the economy in general.


I'd like to see some balance from where the top 5% of people don't have to pay 95% of the whole fucking countrys tax bill. How do we get that up to everyone paying their fair share? Hmmm


The top 5% seek and find so many loopholes. You cannot be serious?

Why the fuck you defend these richer than God people, making money on the backs of the majority of the country? What would you do if all the workers said at once, "we quit." Rich guy would freak out.
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Postby slucero » Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:41 am

Treasury Secretary's kinda busy asking Congress to raise the allowable ceiling on the National Debt to 12 Trillion Dollars... cause the country is accumulating it at a rate of 200 Billion a month.. and will hit the 12 Trillion by October... so Timmy kinda busy right now.... :lol:

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Postby Rockindeano » Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:52 am

slucero wrote:Treasury Secretary's kinda busy asking Congress to raise the allowable ceiling on the National Debt to 12 Trillion Dollars... cause the country is accumulating it at a rate of 200 Billion a month.. and will hit the 12 Trillion by October... so Timmy kinda busy right now.... :lol:


Accumulating trillions the Obama way is bad right? Stimulus money, public works projects which provide new infrastructure and good paying jobs all bad bad bad.

Accumulating much more than Obama the Bush way, in meaningless wars, based on blatant lies is of course money well spent.

Gotcha. Just wanted to make sure I hear where you are coming from, that's all.
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Postby Eric » Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:56 am

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slucero wrote:Treasury Secretary's kinda busy asking Congress to raise the allowable ceiling on the National Debt to 12 Trillion Dollars... cause the country is accumulating it at a rate of 200 Billion a month.. and will hit the 12 Trillion by October... so Timmy kinda busy right now.... :lol:


Accumulating trillions the Obama way is bad right? Stimulus money, public works projects which provide new infrastructure and good paying jobs all bad bad bad.

Accumulating much more tan Obama the Bush way, in meaningless wars, based on blatant lies is of course money well spent.

Gotcha. Just wanted to make sure I hear where you are coming from, that's all.


You're full of it......you want to pretend that there is no terror war (which Obama is rightfully continuing) and not look at the debt Obama has given us in just 7 months.
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Postby Rockindeano » Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:06 am

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Rockindeano wrote:
slucero wrote:Treasury Secretary's kinda busy asking Congress to raise the allowable ceiling on the National Debt to 12 Trillion Dollars... cause the country is accumulating it at a rate of 200 Billion a month.. and will hit the 12 Trillion by October... so Timmy kinda busy right now.... :lol:


Accumulating trillions the Obama way is bad right? Stimulus money, public works projects which provide new infrastructure and good paying jobs all bad bad bad.

Accumulating much more tan Obama the Bush way, in meaningless wars, based on blatant lies is of course money well spent.

Gotcha. Just wanted to make sure I hear where you are coming from, that's all.


You're full of it......you want to pretend that there is no terror war (which Obama is rightfully continuing) and not look at the debt Obama has given us in just 7 months.


Go read some Econ 101 books. While mired in a recession, tax cuts are not the solution. Spending is. Go educate yourself.

As for a terror war? Iraq was never a terror state.

You're full of it.
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