Sarah Palin's Alaska

[Arkansas]

Here ya go!
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestof ... hln?hpt=T2

Btw, also read where she'll get $1M per episode next year.
I may never watch it. I don't know. But yeah, I'd say she's doing something right.


later~

[BobbyinTN]

I am not a vegan. I do not support PETA. However, I eat meat only about once every few months, if that. My diet is about 90% vegetarian. Not every animal raised for food is raised in those conditions. There are farms where animals are treated humanely and not given any kind of drugs or anything else.

Much like the live an elk or deer would live in the wild???

Some people are great hunters and respect the animals and lands they hunt. Some people, like Palin, don't give a shit what they take or how much of it they take, they do it for political reasons more than they do it for life sustaining food.

I would dare say most hunters are respectful of the animals they hunt-all of the hunters I know are.

How do you know Sarah Palin only takes animals for political reasons or for sport? Do you KNOW that her family doesn't consume the meat from the animals?

And anyone that thinks shooting wolves from helicopters to control predation or population is a fucking idiot and should probably be shot like the wolves are.

Well, now you've just started a whole new argument-totally unrelated....but I wish you could meet some of my farming friends-the ones that raise cows in the favorable conditions that you previously discussed here....

There are farms where animals are treated humanely and not given any kind of drugs or anything else.

I wish you could meet them and learn how they lose many animals per year to wolves and the laws keep flipping back and forth from allowing them to shoot wolves and not shoot wolves.

So, I am also wondering, the meat that you eat "every few months" where does it come from and why is it OK to kill the meat you eat but not the meat Sarah Palin eats?

Why don't you try an honest debate for once instead of loading your questions.

The meat I eat is high end, high priced lean cuts from local butchers, WHEN I eat it.

Sarah Palin is a disgrace and if she were a true hunter, she'd not be trying to make money from it. She's a media whore whose only intention is to get rich.

And if the wolves are getting your friend's cattle, maybe the should build higher fences.

Or maybe they should have thought about the wolves territory before moving their cattle there. But of course, that makes WAY too much sense. LMAO!

[artist4perry]

I am not a big Sarah Palin fan. But I do know hunters. Most are more than respectful of the animal they kill. They use the meat, the hides, and much more. As for Bambi.........look at it this way, have you ever seen an animal die of starvation and disease? It is not a pretty picture, as a matter of fact, over population is part our fault. Their predators numbers are down because we have invaded their territories, and if we don't help by hunting, a long and agonizing death is going to be worse than a bullet in the head. I don't hunt because I am too squeamish, and I cannot kill unless it was life or death for food. But condemning hunters is not quite fair. They do a service many of us would be unable to do for the good of wildlife conservation.

[Saint John]

Aerial wolf hunting was aimed keeping endangered Elk and Caribou populations intact. Alaska is huge, with very unforgiving and vast terrain. It's virtually impossible, in certain areas, to hunt wolves from the ground. Seems like a plausible method to me.

[G.I.Jim]

Aerial wolf hunting was aimed keeping endangered Elk and Caribou populations intact. Alaska is huge, with very unforgiving and vast terrain. It's virtually impossible, in certain areas, to hunt wolves from the ground. Seems like a plausible method to me.

I don't see how the direction the bullet is traveling will make any difference to the wolf.

[lights1961]

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Why don't you try an honest debate for once instead of loading your questions.

The meat I eat is high end, high priced lean cuts from local butchers, WHEN I eat it.

Sarah Palin is a disgrace and if she were a true hunter, she'd not be trying to make money from it. She's a media whore whose only intention is to get rich.

And if the wolves are getting your friend's cattle, maybe the should build higher fences.

Or maybe they should have thought about the wolves territory before moving their cattle there. But of course, that makes WAY too much sense. LMAO![/quote]

you make no sense at all here bobby....truely narrow minded view... and you call yourself open minded... ha..

[artist4perry]

Aerial wolf hunting was aimed keeping endangered Elk and Caribou populations intact. Alaska is huge, with very unforgiving and vast terrain. It's virtually impossible, in certain areas, to hunt wolves from the ground. Seems like a plausible method to me.

I don't see how the direction the bullet is traveling will make any difference to the wolf.

And if they are overpopulated, that bullet would be more forgiving regardless of trajectory than starving from lack of food.

[BobbyinTN]

Aerial wolf hunting was aimed keeping endangered Elk and Caribou populations intact. Alaska is huge, with very unforgiving and vast terrain. It's virtually impossible, in certain areas, to hunt wolves from the ground. Seems like a plausible method to me.

I don't see how the direction the bullet is traveling will make any difference to the wolf.

And if they are overpopulated, that bullet would be more forgiving regardless of trajectory than starving from lack of food.

They're not killing the wolves because they are starving, they're killing them because the wolves are eating the Caribou and Palin and her crooks want the Caribou for themselves.

[G.I.Jim]

Aerial wolf hunting was aimed keeping endangered Elk and Caribou populations intact. Alaska is huge, with very unforgiving and vast terrain. It's virtually impossible, in certain areas, to hunt wolves from the ground. Seems like a plausible method to me.

I don't see how the direction the bullet is traveling will make any difference to the wolf.

And if they are overpopulated, that bullet would be more forgiving regardless of trajectory than starving from lack of food.

They're not killing the wolves because they are starving, they're killing them because the wolves are eating the Caribou and Palin and her crooks want the Caribou for themselves.

You are hilarious dude!

[artist4perry]

Aerial wolf hunting was aimed keeping endangered Elk and Caribou populations intact. Alaska is huge, with very unforgiving and vast terrain. It's virtually impossible, in certain areas, to hunt wolves from the ground. Seems like a plausible method to me.

I don't see how the direction the bullet is traveling will make any difference to the wolf.

And if they are overpopulated, that bullet would be more forgiving regardless of trajectory than starving from lack of food.

They're not killing the wolves because they are starving, they're killing them because the wolves are eating the Caribou and Palin and her crooks want the Caribou for themselves.

They are hunting them because of over population. Bobby are you aware why we have hunting licenses? What the laws are on hunting? Think about it, you cannot just go kill some wildlife willy nilly. There is a purpose for hunting seasons. For limits to kills. You just hate Sarah Palin. If I got on here and said I hunted a wolf would you be so upset?

[lights1961]

LAST WORD... is what Bobby is saying really is this... HE can be what he is... but Sarah cant be what she is... hmmm

[artist4perry]

LAST WORD... is what Bobby is saying really is this... HE can be what he is... but Sarah cant be what she is... hmmm

Bobby is O.K. I have no beef with him, just want him to be aware that you cannot just hunt wolves just because their getting your Caribou. It is due to over population, that wolf hunting is allowed. If they were endangered, they would be in jail.

[RossValoryRocks]

LAST WORD... is what Bobby is saying really is this... HE can be what he is... but Sarah cant be what she is... hmmm

Yeah pointed that out earlier...glad someone else called him on being a HYPOCRITE!

If it wasn't Sarah Palin, he wouldn't give 2 shits...he has an irrational HATE for someone who choses to live their life a certain way, a way he does not agree with, has some MORAL (in his world view) reason for saying is not right.

It's TERRIBLE that someone would do this to another person.

[BobbyinTN]

LAST WORD... is what Bobby is saying really is this... HE can be what he is... but Sarah cant be what she is... hmmm

I don't like Sarah Palin because she's a liar, a cheat and a media whore. There are many republicans I like, and many hunters. Her ethics, her ideals, her bullshit and the complete package is why I don't like Sarah Palin, not because she's a heterosexual or a woman or white or anything to do with who she is but what comes out of her lying mouth.

Wolves, elk, caribou and all wildlife survived just fine before man. Nature takes it course, if the food gets scarce the wolves die out, if the food is plentiful, the wolves thrive. It's bullshit to believe that man has to control the wolf population.

As for hunting deer, I totally agree with it, as I do caribou, elk and other large game, when the hunting is done for food or clothing, but to kill for "sport" or the fun of it is wrong and nothing will convince me otherwise.

[G.I.Jim]

LAST WORD... is what Bobby is saying really is this... HE can be what he is... but Sarah cant be what she is... hmmm

I don't like Sarah Palin because she's a liar, a cheat and a media whore. There are many republicans I like, and many hunters. Her ethics, her ideals, her bullshit and the complete package is why I don't like Sarah Palin, not because she's a heterosexual or a woman or white or anything to do with who she is but what comes out of her lying mouth.

Wolves, elk, caribou and all wildlife survived just fine before man. Nature takes it course, if the food gets scarce the wolves die out, if the food is plentiful, the wolves thrive. It's bullshit to believe that man has to control the wolf population.

As for hunting deer, I totally agree with it, as I do caribou, elk and other large game, when the hunting is done for food or clothing, but to kill for "sport" or the fun of it is wrong and nothing will convince me otherwise.

You said in your earlier post that there is NO reason to hunt, and that the government provides us with all the food we need. Which is it Bobby?

[artist4perry]

LAST WORD... is what Bobby is saying really is this... HE can be what he is... but Sarah cant be what she is... hmmm

I don't like Sarah Palin because she's a liar, a cheat and a media whore. There are many republicans I like, and many hunters. Her ethics, her ideals, her bullshit and the complete package is why I don't like Sarah Palin, not because she's a heterosexual or a woman or white or anything to do with who she is but what comes out of her lying mouth.

Wolves, elk, caribou and all wildlife survived just fine before man. Nature takes it course, if the food gets scarce the wolves die out, if the food is plentiful, the wolves thrive. It's bullshit to believe that man has to control the wolf population.

As for hunting deer, I totally agree with it, as I do caribou, elk and other large game, when the hunting is done for food or clothing, but to kill for "sport" or the fun of it is wrong and nothing will convince me otherwise.

Wolves die out of starvation. Starvation is not a nice way to go. It is extremely painful, and long. Not to mention diseases in overpopulation. Bobby I cannot make you see what I am talking about. But I have seen an animal dying of hunger before. It is one of the most heartbreaking things you have ever seen. If you feel it is no big deal for wolves to die in mass numbers out of hunger and disease you and I will definitely disagree on this idea. If we can keep numbers in check, they have a better chance at survival, and thus a continuation of the species.

And by the way, this for the most part is Democrat country. Many of whom are hunters. It isn't just a Republican thing.

[Angel]

Why don't you try an honest debate for once instead of loading your questions.

Please explain how my questions are loaded. Just because they happen to be questions you don't want to answer doesn't mean they are loaded questions.

The meat I eat is high end, high priced lean cuts from local butchers, WHEN I eat it.

So because your meat is "expensive" it's OK but wild meat is not OK? You're really grasping here. Besides, just because it's from a local butcher does not mean it was raised in a non-factory environment.

Sarah Palin is a disgrace and if she were a true hunter, she'd not be trying to make money from it. She's a media whore whose only intention is to get rich.

OK, you don't like Sarah Palin-I get it. And, maybe she is a media whore-for the sake of argument I'll give that to you...but how does that in any way mean that she and her family don't eat the meat she and her family harvests? I asked you before and you didn't answer this so I'll ask again-do you KNOW that her family doesn't eat the meat?

And if the wolves are getting your friend's cattle, maybe the should build higher fences.

Or maybe they should have thought about the wolves territory before moving their cattle there. But of course, that makes WAY too much sense. LMAO!

Bobby, do you have ANY idea how stupid this makes you sound? Do you remember yesterday when you said some cattle are raised on farms where they are treated well...etc...well, where the hell do you think those farms are located? New York City? No, they are located in the country....the same place the wolves live-you can't raise cattle in the city, you dumbass.

You should seriously just quit now-every post you make in regards to this issue makes you sound dumber and dumber. It's very obvious that you actually know nothing about hunting and nothing about farming or ranching.

[steveo777]

LAST WORD... is what Bobby is saying really is this... HE can be what he is... but Sarah cant be what she is... hmmm

I don't like Sarah Palin because she's a liar, a cheat and a media whore. There are many republicans I like, and many hunters. Her ethics, her ideals, her bullshit and the complete package is why I don't like Sarah Palin, not because she's a heterosexual or a woman or white or anything to do with who she is but what comes out of her lying mouth.

Wolves, elk, caribou and all wildlife survived just fine before man. Nature takes it course, if the food gets scarce the wolves die out, if the food is plentiful, the wolves thrive. It's bullshit to believe that man has to control the wolf population.

As for hunting deer, I totally agree with it, as I do caribou, elk and other large game, when the hunting is done for food or clothing, but to kill for "sport" or the fun of it is wrong and nothing will convince me otherwise.

Dude, you are a fanatic. Just crazy shit you spew. You are, at best, as out of round as you claim others to be, but to a further extreme. Listen to the voices in this thread. You can't be the only one right here. As human beings we have been given dominion over animals. That doesn't mean go out and torture them, but, if I want some damn Deer, Elk or Caribou Jerky, I have the right to hunt and kill it.

[Seven Wishes2]

If you feel it is no big deal for wolves to die in mass numbers out of hunger and disease you and I will definitely disagree on this idea. If we can keep numbers in check, they have a better chance at survival, and thus a continuation of the species.

Typical Republican response. Do whatever you can do to validate the job-quitting, hypocritical, crazy lady shooting healthy wolves from a moving chopper.

On the other hand, I fully support the rights of anyone to kill a non-endangered animal for sustenance purposes. Most hunters I know don't kill for sport.

[lights1961]

If you feel it is no big deal for wolves to die in mass numbers out of hunger and disease you and I will definitely disagree on this idea. If we can keep numbers in check, they have a better chance at survival, and thus a continuation of the species.

Typical Republican response. Do whatever you can do to validate the job-quitting, hypocritical, crazy lady shooting healthy wolves from a moving chopper.

On the other hand, I fully support the rights of anyone to kill a non-endangered animal for sustenance purposes. Most hunters I know don't kill for sport.

LMAO at the ignorant post this is...
hunting is a sport as it is a way of life... always has been always will be... why else is there a SEASON associated with hunting of all kinds...
you have RABBIT SEASON, DUCK SEASON, DEER SEASON, BIG GAME SEASON... PHEASANT SEASON... ETC...

and 7 wishes... you either support hunting or you dont... dont be wishy washy with support of some hunting but not all hunting... just saying...

[SF-Dano]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u14T5wzicqw

[Angel]

If you feel it is no big deal for wolves to die in mass numbers out of hunger and disease you and I will definitely disagree on this idea. If we can keep numbers in check, they have a better chance at survival, and thus a continuation of the species.

Typical Republican response. Do whatever you can do to validate the job-quitting, hypocritical, crazy lady shooting healthy wolves from a moving chopper.

On the other hand, I fully support the rights of anyone to kill a non-endangered animal for sustenance purposes. Most hunters I know don't kill for sport.

LMAO at the ignorant post this is...
hunting is a sport as it is a way of life... always has been always will be... why else is there a SEASON associated with hunting of all kinds...
you have RABBIT SEASON, DUCK SEASON, DEER SEASON, BIG GAME SEASON... PHEASANT SEASON... ETC...

and 7 wishes... you either support hunting or you dont... dont be wishy washy with support of some hunting but not all hunting... just saying...

Not necessarily, Rick. I agree with what Dan is saying-I don't think it's right for hunters to kill animals just for the sake of killing them. It IS a sport for people but it's a sport that also supplies food for families-I think if you plan to shoot it you should also plan to eat it...

[RossValoryRocks]

If you feel it is no big deal for wolves to die in mass numbers out of hunger and disease you and I will definitely disagree on this idea. If we can keep numbers in check, they have a better chance at survival, and thus a continuation of the species.

Typical Republican response. Do whatever you can do to validate the job-quitting, hypocritical, crazy lady shooting healthy wolves from a moving chopper.

On the other hand, I fully support the rights of anyone to kill a non-endangered animal for sustenance purposes. Most hunters I know don't kill for sport.

No one is validating Palin, I wouldn't vote for her is she was the ONLY name on the ballot...but at least attack her for legitimate things...no the fact she hunts...and she use the meat to feed her family, or donates it to local shelters and food banks is what I read.

[Seven Wishes2]

I would like to interject here that Stu has pretty much unwaveringly supported Bobby's basic rights over the past few months, his own feelings on the issues aside.

And yes, you CAN support the right to hunt and be COMPLETELY against sport hunting or Palinesque "population control" measures.

Just my two cents.

[RossValoryRocks]

I would like to interject here that Stu has pretty much unwaveringly supported Bobby's basic rights over the past few months, his own feelings on the issues aside.

And yes, you CAN support the right to hunt and be COMPLETELY against sport hunting or Palinesque "population control" measures.

Just my two cents.

Thank you for noticing. I think GLBT rights are the final frontier of civil rights and that it is one that crosses all racial and socio-economic boundries. It is the last of the great civil rights debates in this country, and the sooner we get past it the sooner we can tackle other pressing matters.

The problem with Bobby and everyone else who gets all worked up about the hunting issue is this: They are missing the point that those "population control" measures are put in the place by scientists who know far more than we do about the ecology of their states (in this case Alaska) and have laws and regulations to adddress issues that arise. State Game laws are designed to keep healthy populations of the various species so that the minimize things like the over population and the problems that creates. Bobby insists that if we leave well enough alone that nature will balance itself, and that just isn't true any longer. Yes, humans created the mess, but we can through ethical and humane hunting laws help bring things back in balance a bit.

Bobby is being irrational calling hunters "killers" and "bloodthirsty", yes even Palin.

[artist4perry]

If you feel it is no big deal for wolves to die in mass numbers out of hunger and disease you and I will definitely disagree on this idea. If we can keep numbers in check, they have a better chance at survival, and thus a continuation of the species.

Typical Republican response. Do whatever you can do to validate the job-quitting, hypocritical, crazy lady shooting healthy wolves from a moving chopper.

On the other hand, I fully support the rights of anyone to kill a non-endangered animal for sustenance purposes. Most hunters I know don't kill for sport.

Seven I said I don't like Palin! I was talking the need for hunting and a hunting license. You need to stop hugging your Obama doll so tightly. It is making you pissy.