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Re: Helping one of the Forum Members...?

Postby Don » Fri May 24, 2013 6:33 am

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Fact Finder wrote:In Cincy we have some sort of organized panhandlers. A handler will transport them to various spots around town, drop them off to beg for a few hours and then pick them back up. I've seen one in particular near our local Burger King and I'm in the burbs. Dude stands in a traffic island right outside the drive thru exit. It's pure genius, on one side of the island is BK with traffic going left and on the right side is an Ice Cream store which exits with traffic going right. Plus there's a stop light right there, so most cars have to stop and look the fucker in the face. One morning I watched a BK customer (lady), pull out there and hand the guy a five. Then about 3 weeks later this same dude came knocking on my front door and I knew immediately who he was. He claimed to be a war veteran and was asking for a few bucks to paint street numbers on the curb, he was carrying paint and brushes in a backpack. I pointed out to him that we don't have curbs with painted street numbers and sent him on his way. :D


Just recently saw a news report about this where we live, and it's amazing how this operates and the serious cash they can make. One guy even bragged about making $400-$600 a DAY. Pretty incredible. I've been asked if the "homeless" person from here is no longer with us, and no, I'm told they're fine, definitely not homeless (and never was), and supposedly had a baby with their longtime partner (who was apparently unaware of their own "homelessness" :lol: ). I'm pretty sure my very friendship with the person was made fun of and talked about by one in a very crappy manner, but that's fine, drama lovers prove to never rest. Who knew it could be such a problem to simply be humane and a friend to someone claiming to be so down and out. But I guess that's happened here numerous times from what I'm told and probably will happen again, same story different people.


Come on, name names! It's your civic duty to protect the other members here! :lol:
I wonder if some folk here send out begging letters in flurries? Running multiple lines and hoping their charity angels don't cross paths with each other?
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Re: Helping one of the Forum Members...?

Postby Melissa » Fri May 24, 2013 7:07 am

Don wrote:Come on, name names! It's your civic duty to protect the other members here! :lol:
I wonder if some folk here send out begging letters in flurries? Running multiple lines and hoping their charity angels don't cross paths with each other?


Never thought about that but I guess anything is possible, lol.
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Re: Helping one of the Forum Members...?

Postby The Sushi Hunter » Fri May 24, 2013 7:23 am

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Don wrote:Come on, name names! It's your civic duty to protect the other members here! :lol:
I wonder if some folk here send out begging letters in flurries? Running multiple lines and hoping their charity angels don't cross paths with each other?


Never thought about that but I guess anything is possible, lol.


That's funny in so many ways....to me it is anyways.
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Re: Helping one of the Forum Members...?

Postby G.I.Jim » Fri May 24, 2013 12:32 pm

I'm obviously missing the inside joke here... :shock:
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Re: Helping one of the Forum Members...?

Postby majik » Fri May 24, 2013 2:21 pm

G.I.Jim wrote:I'm obviously missing the inside joke here... :shock:


You a bit confused Jim?? :lol:
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Re: Helping one of the Forum Members...?

Postby Melissa » Fri May 24, 2013 10:12 pm

G.I.Jim wrote:I'm obviously missing the inside joke here... :shock:


No I didn't get it either, I was going to ask he/she if they tried the letter flurry thing and it didn't work out like they hoped :lol:
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Re: Helping one of the Forum Members...?

Postby bluejeangirl76 » Sat May 25, 2013 1:18 am

Don wrote:
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Fact Finder wrote:In Cincy we have some sort of organized panhandlers. A handler will transport them to various spots around town, drop them off to beg for a few hours and then pick them back up. I've seen one in particular near our local Burger King and I'm in the burbs. Dude stands in a traffic island right outside the drive thru exit. It's pure genius, on one side of the island is BK with traffic going left and on the right side is an Ice Cream store which exits with traffic going right. Plus there's a stop light right there, so most cars have to stop and look the fucker in the face. One morning I watched a BK customer (lady), pull out there and hand the guy a five. Then about 3 weeks later this same dude came knocking on my front door and I knew immediately who he was. He claimed to be a war veteran and was asking for a few bucks to paint street numbers on the curb, he was carrying paint and brushes in a backpack. I pointed out to him that we don't have curbs with painted street numbers and sent him on his way. :D


Just recently saw a news report about this where we live, and it's amazing how this operates and the serious cash they can make. One guy even bragged about making $400-$600 a DAY. Pretty incredible. I've been asked if the "homeless" person from here is no longer with us, and no, I'm told they're fine, definitely not homeless (and never was), and supposedly had a baby with their longtime partner (who was apparently unaware of their own "homelessness" :lol: ). I'm pretty sure my very friendship with the person was made fun of and talked about by one in a very crappy manner, but that's fine, drama lovers prove to never rest. Who knew it could be such a problem to simply be humane and a friend to someone claiming to be so down and out. But I guess that's happened here numerous times from what I'm told and probably will happen again, same story different people.


Come on, name names! It's your civic duty to protect the other members here! :lol:



Well, I had a much better reply here that I lost thanks to this new stupid board timing out twice (even though I clicked the check box thing) and I'm not redoing all that... :evil:

...but my basic point was that all joking aside here, she's totally right, who knew that being helpful to someone who claims to have such a bad situation could be such a problem. But it does happen, all in the name of doing a favor or being kind to someone who you believe needs help because they make a lot of b.s. claims about how hard their life is, or lies about their "problems" for attention or personal gain... probably all of us have or know someone who has a story like that... I don't really regret trying to be nice or doing a favor for someone who turned out to be full of shit, I mean you run a risk of getting burned even by the best of friends that way sometimes... I would do that for people anyway, what I do regret is not doing, as Don puts, the "civic duty" in one incident where I could have stopped it. I didn't know how. :?

I had the knowledge to prevent more people from also being lied to, and I did and said nothing because I couldn't. I'd have looked like the crazy one (even more than I probably already did :evil: ) if I said word one. That was the point, I suppose, you'd want to discredit the people who could blow up your game, right? I just hope no one got hurt. It still upsets me to think that I couldn't do anything. :|

Don wrote: I wonder if some folk here send out begging letters in flurries? Running multiple lines and hoping their charity angels don't cross paths with each other?


Probably not... good scammers would cut one line before starting another to make sure they don't cross. In fact one kind soul did try to do their civic duty by telling me once that one person was not to be trusted and I asked the person... "Hey so and so said this, what's that about, why would they say that?" and the response was that the person "hates me and has it out for me because of an old argument blah blah blah" and then got REALLY mad that I even asked and accused me of not trusting them - red flag. They were discrediting the friend who told me that so their game wouldn't be blown up. And I didn't ask the kind soul for further details which was a HUGE mistake. That was the multiple lines starting to cross, though. Eventually everything crosses, that's what dumbasses like that don't figure out. :lol:

That all being said, that does not indicate that I think that's what this topic was about initially - Everett I hope things are improving for you. :) This was a lot to catch up on and I'm not sure if I made it through all the pages. I was just agreeing with the points about things like this not always being what they seem. While it may not be wise to assume you can trust people and that requested help is on the up and up, it's also wise to know that things are not necessarily always as bad as they seem either.
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Re: Helping one of the Forum Members...?

Postby The Sushi Hunter » Sat May 25, 2013 2:15 am

bluejeangirl76 wrote:"Hey so and so said this, what's that about, why would they say that?" and the response was that the person "hates me and has it out for me because of an old argument blah blah blah" and then got REALLY mad that I even asked and accused me of not trusting them - red flag.


Yep, huge red flag right there when they turn on you for just asking about it or bringing it up.
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Re: Helping one of the Forum Members...?

Postby Don » Sat May 25, 2013 3:21 am

Melissa wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:I'm obviously missing the inside joke here... :shock:


No I didn't get it either, I was going to ask he/she if they tried the letter flurry thing and it didn't work out like they hoped :lol:


No. What I was saying was if people who solicit others for money online basically copy and paste their PM and send it more than one online friend hoping to increase their chances of getting a favorable response.
No letters/PMs/emails to friends or strangers; God forbid, If I needed help that bad, I would borrow from my retirement plan or ask my family (ughh).
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Re: Helping one of the Forum Members...?

Postby Melissa » Sat May 25, 2013 4:11 am

Don wrote:
Melissa wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:I'm obviously missing the inside joke here... :shock:


No I didn't get it either, I was going to ask he/she if they tried the letter flurry thing and it didn't work out like they hoped :lol:


No. What I was saying was if people who solicit others for money online basically copy and paste their PM and send it more than one online friend hoping to increase their chances of getting a favorable response.
No letters/PMs/emails to friends or strangers; God forbid, If I needed help that bad, I would borrow from my retirement plan or ask my family (ughh).


No I didn't mean you, I meant I didn't get what was so funny to Sushi? Who knows, maybe he ate some bad sushi :shock: :lol: And I totally get what you mean, but I think with people like this they are more methodical than that and work on one person at a time. Or feed on is more like it. BJG says it all best too. And I'm pretty sure this person was also the one who stalked my mother's memorial page but changed the location on whatever search engine they used to make it look like it all came from some other city so it would make someone else look bad. Which I didn't even know that was possible, to change a location on a damn search engine? Who thinks of crap like that? I even had one of my coworkers who is a computer whiz (I'm so not) with crap like that check it out and watch some things for me. Pretty sad really to learn after the fact what was really happening, but just glad to not be dealing with it anymore. And yeah, like you mentioned, if I ever became so down and out I would do the same things, ask family for help or borrow from savings and retirement until things got better.
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Re: Helping one of the Forum Members...?

Postby artist4perry » Sat May 25, 2013 10:34 am

That is why I think it is best to help those you know the situation yourself. I would never ask someone I did not know well for help and I would only do it in severe desperation...family first. I don't ask people for money...even in family matters it causes bad feelings and bad blood. One of the best ways to ruin a friendship is to borrow from a friend. I have always prefered standing on my own two feet and if that means eating Ramen for a while that is fine. The only exception was when I got divorced. My ex intentionally made things hard on me when I divorced him. I had to move in with my folks. I got a job in one day and moved out quickly...I hated that so much...if it were just me I would have lived in a car first. I had the kids to think of. It was the hardest thing I had ever done. No way would I rely on friends to help me. I worked late nights cleaning office buildings and I did back breaking work. I was willing to do hard work to feed my kids. My ex even stopped paying child support for half a year until I got the Child support people on his case. It is hard to make ends meet as a single mom but I did what I had to do.
Everett, you better be earnest and repay every dime borrowed. These people here are top notch and they work hard for every penny regardless of what their occupation is. Brywool is the salt of the earth treat him with the greatest of respect and thank him every day for what he has done for you. I don't know in this world many people who would have trusted you. This kind man stuck his neck out for you... even risked his own personal reputation for you. It takes a good person to do such a thing for someone else. One who deserves being repaid for his kindness.
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Re: Helping one of the Forum Members...?

Postby brywool » Sat May 25, 2013 11:39 am

:oops:
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Re: Helping one of the Forum Members...?

Postby artist4perry » Sun May 26, 2013 3:10 am

brywool wrote::oops:
sniff, sniff



Hope I did not embarrass you. It was not my intent. Just felt it needed to be said that is all. :D
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Re: Helping one of the Forum Members...?

Postby steveo777 » Fri Aug 02, 2013 8:50 pm

He needs our help again. Aparently, last night he had only $2. What is the answer and how can we help him? I understand what it feels like to be him....I really do. I've been there a long time ago. Does anyone live near Everett and has anyone ever met him personally?
Everett, being broke is a symptom of a much larger problem. I understand you don't have a job. I understand your unemployment has run out. I feel your pain. Besides money, how can we help you? You need to take any job you can get man, just that simple. You need to show up at a day labor outlet and just take the work. A temp job is better than no job.
At your income level, you will at least eat. Need clothes to apply for a job? I would suggest you head to a goodwill store. You can buy many things in there for a few bucks. If that is the plan and you don't have the money, have a clerk call me at check out and I might be able to give a credit card number to help you pay for it. Let's try and figure this out and help you grow out of this.

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Re: Helping one of the Forum Members...?

Postby The Sushi Hunter » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:10 am

Yeah, give him more money so you can see him at the next concert that he wants to go to.
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