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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:27 am

Monker wrote:That is irrelevant. The fact that the trailers before TFA are being exposed to tens of millions of people is what matters.

And, I bet the people at Disney also disagree with you.


Might be news to Disney considering that the trailer for the new Star Wars debuted on ESPN's Monday Night Football NOT theatrically. This was followed by Disney's CEO bragging that the trailer generated close to 130 million views ONLINE. But of course, you know everything. Theater attendance is at its lowest in in 19 years. Disney chose to have the trailer for Captain America:Civil War debut last night on Jimmy Kimmel. Again, NOT theatrical. There is a reason for this. You are such a clueless old fart it's laughable.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby Abitaman » Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:31 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote: You are such a clueless old fart



That is FUNNY!!! The saying that, I am not directing at anybody, but one day I will have to use that.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:54 pm

"I've seen men of steel die, and dark knights fall..."

The new Legends of Tomorrow trailer is freakin' sweet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7LlmaFg0lw
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:56 am

Fox has just announced that a sneek peek of Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice will be shown on Monday's telecast of Gotham.



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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:40 am

Gonna have to wait since I'm about 6 episodes behind. Or check it out on the 'Tube. :lol:
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby Monker » Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:33 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Monker wrote:That is irrelevant. The fact that the trailers before TFA are being exposed to tens of millions of people is what matters.

And, I bet the people at Disney also disagree with you.


Might be news to Disney considering that the trailer for the new Star Wars debuted on ESPN's Monday Night Football NOT theatrically. This was followed by Disney's CEO bragging that the trailer generated close to 130 million views ONLINE. But of course, you know everything. Theater attendance is at its lowest in in 19 years. Disney chose to have the trailer for Captain America:Civil War debut last night on Jimmy Kimmel. Again, NOT theatrical. There is a reason for this. You are such a clueless old fart it's laughable.


What are you going on about? You are making up your own arguments that have nothing to do with what I am talking about.

This started because I referred to a post about the BvS preview being attached to "Creed". I wrote a post that said (not an exact quote), Creed? Big deal. Civil War will be attached to SW:TFA. That has as much in presales as most movies have in an entire week.

Now you are off saying attaching trailers to movies is outdated and BS like that. That has nothing AT ALL to do with what I am talking about.

TFA has $50 million in presales alone. That is a record. Creed was EXPECTED to sale $35 million in its first week. The last I read is it made $42million in its first week. Whatever...TFA sold as much in PRESALES as Creed did in its first week.

TFA is expected to sale over $200 million in its first week. It's going to be a crazy first week for TFA. Hell, it will be a crazy first MONTH for TFA. We are talking about a movie that may make $1.5billion -- AT LEAST -- in its run.

And, all of those people will be seeing the "Civil War" trailer. It's a big deal, and Disney knows it. It's a MUCH bigger deal then being attached to Creed...and everybody in this forum knows it. In fact, their argument of "Uh, well, BvS may be attached to TFA also..." makes a lot more sense then your droning on about trailers attached to movies being old school...that has nothing to do with what we were talking about.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:20 am

Monker wrote:And, all of those people will be seeing the "Civil War" trailer. It's a big deal, and Disney knows it. It's a MUCH bigger deal then being attached to Creed...and everybody in this forum knows it. In fact, their argument of "Uh, well, BvS may be attached to TFA also..." makes a lot more sense then your droning on about trailers attached to movies being old school...that has nothing to do with what we were talking about.


When I wrote the BvS trailer could be in front of Creed (which I'm probably going to see this week), that's just me gushing over seeing new footage on the big screen (but that doesn't seem to be the case now). That wasn't the cue for you do the whole goosestep routine about Civil War being attached to TFA and how much more of a "big deal" that is. Like TNC implied, nearly all the people who will see the Civil War trailer "in front of TFA" have already watched it online.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Mon Nov 30, 2015 4:28 am

^Yep.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby Monker » Mon Nov 30, 2015 6:00 am

verslibre wrote:
Monker wrote:And, all of those people will be seeing the "Civil War" trailer. It's a big deal, and Disney knows it. It's a MUCH bigger deal then being attached to Creed...and everybody in this forum knows it. In fact, their argument of "Uh, well, BvS may be attached to TFA also..." makes a lot more sense then your droning on about trailers attached to movies being old school...that has nothing to do with what we were talking about.


When I wrote the BvS trailer could be in front of Creed (which I'm probably going to see this week), that's just me gushing over seeing new footage on the big screen (but that doesn't seem to be the case now). That wasn't the cue for you do the whole goosestep routine about Civil War being attached to TFA and how much more of a "big deal" that is. Like TNC implied, nearly all the people who will see the Civil War trailer "in front of TFA" have already watched it online.


The keyword there is "nearly" and you really have no clue how many have seen it online or not. And, that was my point when I said it was a different audience than those who go seeking out trailers online. And, as you implied, it is a completely different experience in watching it at home on a PC and watching it in a theater.

The bottom line is the trailers in front of TFA are going to be seen by tens of millions of people. That is a big deal, whether it is "old school" or not. It is a big deal whether people have already seen it, or not. From a marketing standpoint, any time you can put your product in front of that many people, it's a no-brainer that it will help sellit.

Disney knows what they are doing. They are going to have the top four biggest hits this year with Jurassic World and The Force Awakens, Age of Ultron and Inside Out. Not only that...but Jurassic World, TFA, and AOU are going to be among the biggest hits EVER.

It's foolish to argue that it's not a big deal to be attached before a such a huge selling movie. Civil War will benefit from it...and Dr. Strange will probably benefit from Civil War, and Rogue One. That's the way it works. You know this...one movie feeds off the popularity of another. It's a machine that WB/DC simply has not built.

As for the goose stepping, I was going to drop it after the point that BvS may be attached to TFA, too. It's a good point, and I don't know if it is attached or not. But, if you all are going to turn the argument into the trailers before the greatest selling movie of all time do not matter, then I'll argue that you are absolutely completely wrong.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:28 am

Monker wrote:The keyword there is "nearly" and you really have no clue how many have seen it online or not.


:lol: Actually, I do have a clue: in excess of 30.325 million, as of today. That's what the counter reads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVdV-lxRPFo

Monker wrote:The bottom line is the trailers in front of TFA are going to be seen by tens of millions of people.


Nobody's disputing that.

Monker wrote:[Disney's] going to have the top four biggest hits this year with Jurassic World and The Force Awakens, Age of Ultron and Inside Out.


Nobody's disputing that.

Monker wrote:It's a machine that WB/DC simply has not built.


So you're saying the trailers that ran in front of all the Harry Potter movies and Jackson's Tolkien trilogies weren't seen by a gazillion people? Same difference. Yes, the DCEU is newer than the MCU, but WB isn't exactly a studio with no history of film hits.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby Monker » Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:20 pm

verslibre wrote:
Monker wrote:The keyword there is "nearly" and you really have no clue how many have seen it online or not.


:lol: Actually, I do have a clue: in excess of 30.325 million, as of today. That's what the counter reads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVdV-lxRPFo


My point is, you do not know who in the theater saw the trailer online and who didn't.

Monker wrote:The bottom line is the trailers in front of TFA are going to be seen by tens of millions of people.


Nobody's disputing that.

Monker wrote:[Disney's] going to have the top four biggest hits this year with Jurassic World and The Force Awakens, Age of Ultron and Inside Out.


Nobody's disputing that.


The point I am building is in your next quote. All of this shows how Disney has built a machine where one film promotes the next...and it has become incredibly successful.

Monker wrote:It's a machine that WB/DC simply has not built.


So you're saying the trailers that ran in front of all the Harry Potter movies and Jackson's Tolkien trilogies weren't seen by a gazillion people? Same difference. Yes, the DCEU is newer than the MCU, but WB isn't exactly a studio with no history of film hits.


I have no idea what your point is. First of all, the LotR movies were released by New Line Cinema before WB bought them out. Therefore, those movies were in direct competition with the Harry Potter movies and WB had nothing to do with them. Those two were rivals in every sense of the word. LotR basically kept New Line afloat for a decade...they were not exactly releasing a lot of successful movies.

I am not saying that WB has no successful films. I am saying Disney, more than any other studio, seems to know how to dominate the box office. This year they have the top 4 films. Last year I know Guardians was top, and Winter Soldier was up there, too. Not sure about the rest. 2013, the monster hit of Frozen, and the one everybody loves to hate in Iron Man 3. 2012, I know Avengers topped the list. 2011, I can't think of a huge Disney or Marvel hit.

The bottom line is Disney has dominated the top of the box office since 2012. They know what they are doing when it comes to marketing their films...and they are getting better at it as the years go by.



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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Mon Nov 30, 2015 6:22 pm

There's really no debate here. Just another arguement for Marvel Monker to play with his dingy over Disney.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Tue Dec 01, 2015 1:44 am

CBS's Supergirl gets picked up for 7 more extended episodes; concludes full season 1.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Tue Dec 01, 2015 2:49 am

YoungJRNYfan wrote:CBS's Supergirl gets picked up for 7 more extended episodes; concludes full season 1.


Yeah, expanded to 20 episodes total. That's what they do for shows that experience a steady ratings and viewership decline, week after week. :lol:

I heard Flash is going to show up on Supergirl next season, too.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Tue Dec 01, 2015 2:54 am

Monker wrote:My point is, you do not know who in the theater saw the trailer online and who didn't.


Apart from "most of them." :lol:
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby Monker » Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:12 am

verslibre wrote:
Monker wrote:My point is, you do not know who in the theater saw the trailer online and who didn't.


Apart from "most of them." :lol:


...and you don't even really know that.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby Monker » Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:16 am

verslibre wrote:
YoungJRNYfan wrote:CBS's Supergirl gets picked up for 7 more extended episodes; concludes full season 1.


Yeah, expanded to 20 episodes total. That's what they do for shows that experience a steady ratings and viewership decline, week after week. :lol:

I heard Flash is going to show up on Supergirl next season, too.


No, it bottomed out last week. But, it's not a good sign when a show like Gotham is competing for it to put Supergirl in last place among the big networks.

It's not a very good show and it's not going to last.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:56 am

It's such a bad sign that it got extended 7 episodes and the character is in talks to cross over with one of the best TV shows going with the Flash...but Monker knows all.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:11 pm

Aw hell yea! What a fantastic tease. I knew Snyder wouldn't sell Supes short. This was still in the mind of Bruce so he definitely fears Superman. FULL TRAILER just announced for Jimmy Kimmel Wednesday night. Bring it on!
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:29 pm

Batman V Superman Exclusive Sneak. Full trailer to air on Jimmy Kimmel LIVE Wednesday night; December 2nd.

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:35 pm

WB literally just put this up on YT and within' minutes, it's already hit over 60,000 views.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:07 am

YoungJRNYfan wrote:WB literally just put this up on YT and within' minutes, it's already hit over 60,000 views.


Interesting clip. I assume either A) Superman is under the influence of Lex or Doomsday or B) it's a dream sequence. Thoughts?
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:08 am

verslibre wrote:Like TNC implied, nearly all the people who will see the Civil War trailer "in front of TFA" have already watched it online.


Of course. None of this shit matters. These days, most people play with their smart phones during the trailers or go take a piss.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:47 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
YoungJRNYfan wrote:WB literally just put this up on YT and within' minutes, it's already hit over 60,000 views.


Interesting clip. I assume either A) Superman is under the influence of Lex or Doomsday or B) it's a dream sequence. Thoughts?


IMO, it's the dream sequence Diana (WW) has. It should be right around or close to the beginning of the film.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:48 am

YoungJRNYfan wrote:FULL TRAILER just announced for Jimmy Kimmel Wednesday night. Bring it on!


Oh, man. To watch or not to watch. That is the question. :lol:
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby Monker » Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:57 am

YoungJRNYfan wrote:It's such a bad sign that it got extended 7 episodes and the character is in talks to cross over with one of the best TV shows going with the Flash...but Monker knows all.


Ratings is what matters...and being in a battle for last place among the networks is not good.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:05 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
YoungJRNYfan wrote:WB literally just put this up on YT and within' minutes, it's already hit over 60,000 views.


Interesting clip. I assume either A) Superman is under the influence of Lex or Doomsday or B) it's a dream sequence. Thoughts?


Definitely a dream sequence. There was a piece of merchandise at a Con that had Batman in the "desert storm" garb and it was called "Knightmare" so this has something to do with Batman's fears with Superman. Supes may be under the influence of something secondary since he has the same creepy face that was seen in the trailer when he's kneeling to Lex. Or, maybe Bizarro, which I would love. Interesting indeed..it could go many ways. You can already tell the difference in cinematography with Snyder having Fong back compared to Man of Steel. Man of Steel looked good, but this looks 100 times better. It's going to be a beautiful looking film.

The new Batman V Superman trailer arriving tonight on Kimmel will clock in at 2:24. WB/DC has kept this thing under some tight security without much leaking. Not sure what to expect but it could be a lot of meat on the bone tonight..especially since this should be the trailer that will probably play before SW:TFA in a few weeks so they may show some juicy shit.
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