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Postby donnaplease » Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:40 am

fredinator wrote:Oh for heaven's sake, DP, I was throwing some IDEAS out there, something that you cons never have. The prayer argument is weak, weak and lame. Is that argument still that children should recite a prayer in the morning or does it involve a moment a silence? Whatever it is, it doesn't belong in public schools. I don't believe in abortion either--for myself--but what other freaking ideas do YOU have, for those who don't have many options? Adoption? Some girls decide against adoption when the baby is born, then what? What happens if the baby has medical problems? A prayer then? Yeah, right, snort. Education/prevention is key for me.


Here's an idea... It's called TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for yourself! YOU educate your kids however you want, but keep your damned hands off mine! Fertility Pharmacy... Yeah, GREAT idea! :roll:

As for options, there are lots of options out there, and the ones that WANT to benefit from them, usually do.

p.s. Snorting is for pigs...
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Postby donnaplease » Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:45 am

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fredinator wrote:Oh for heaven's sake, DP, I was throwing some IDEAS out there, something that you cons never have.


Bullshit. I've thrown ideas/plans on here for Social Security, Health Reform, Economic recovery, etc. and people like Noble Cause just attack.


It's easier to attack the poster than it is the post sometimes. :?
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Postby fredinator » Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:57 am

donnaplease wrote:
fredinator wrote:Oh for heaven's sake, DP, I was throwing some IDEAS out there, something that you cons never have. The prayer argument is weak, weak and lame. Is that argument still that children should recite a prayer in the morning or does it involve a moment a silence? Whatever it is, it doesn't belong in public schools. I don't believe in abortion either--for myself--but what other freaking ideas do YOU have, for those who don't have many options? Adoption? Some girls decide against adoption when the baby is born, then what? What happens if the baby has medical problems? A prayer then? Yeah, right, snort. Education/prevention is key for me.


Here's an idea... It's called TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for yourself! YOU educate your kids however you want, but keep your damned hands off mine! Fertility Pharmacy... Yeah, GREAT idea! :roll:

As for options, there are lots of options out there, and the ones that WANT to benefit from them, usually do.

p.s. Snorting is for pigs...


You are insane. Who are you talking about here ("the ones that WANT to benefit from them, usually do") that don't want to benefit from these options you speak of? That's right, I think I remember you saying once that you worked in a doctor's office and the patients on medicaid or welfare drove brand new cars, etc. Mmmmh hmmmm. I bet your mouth just started to water when I used the term, "fertility pharmacy"; something to really hang your hat on, lol. Way to go, Rush.
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Postby treetopovskaya » Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:15 pm

fredinator wrote:
donnaplease wrote:
fredinator wrote:Oh for heaven's sake, DP, I was throwing some IDEAS out there, something that you cons never have. The prayer argument is weak, weak and lame. Is that argument still that children should recite a prayer in the morning or does it involve a moment a silence? Whatever it is, it doesn't belong in public schools. I don't believe in abortion either--for myself--but what other freaking ideas do YOU have, for those who don't have many options? Adoption? Some girls decide against adoption when the baby is born, then what? What happens if the baby has medical problems? A prayer then? Yeah, right, snort. Education/prevention is key for me.


Here's an idea... It's called TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for yourself! YOU educate your kids however you want, but keep your damned hands off mine! Fertility Pharmacy... Yeah, GREAT idea! :roll:

As for options, there are lots of options out there, and the ones that WANT to benefit from them, usually do.

p.s. Snorting is for pigs...


You are insane. Who are you talking about here ("the ones that WANT to benefit from them, usually do") that don't want to benefit from these options you speak of? That's right, I think I remember you saying once that you worked in a doctor's office and the patients on medicaid or welfare drove brand new cars, etc. Mmmmh hmmmm. I bet your mouth just started to water when I used the term, "fertility pharmacy"; something to really hang your hat on, lol. Way to go, Rush.


asking people to take responsibility for themselves is insane?
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Postby Rockindeano » Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:59 pm

treetopovskaya wrote:
fredinator wrote:
donnaplease wrote:
fredinator wrote:Oh for heaven's sake, DP, I was throwing some IDEAS out there, something that you cons never have. The prayer argument is weak, weak and lame. Is that argument still that children should recite a prayer in the morning or does it involve a moment a silence? Whatever it is, it doesn't belong in public schools. I don't believe in abortion either--for myself--but what other freaking ideas do YOU have, for those who don't have many options? Adoption? Some girls decide against adoption when the baby is born, then what? What happens if the baby has medical problems? A prayer then? Yeah, right, snort. Education/prevention is key for me.


Here's an idea... It's called TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for yourself! YOU educate your kids however you want, but keep your damned hands off mine! Fertility Pharmacy... Yeah, GREAT idea! :roll:

As for options, there are lots of options out there, and the ones that WANT to benefit from them, usually do.

p.s. Snorting is for pigs...


You are insane. Who are you talking about here ("the ones that WANT to benefit from them, usually do") that don't want to benefit from these options you speak of? That's right, I think I remember you saying once that you worked in a doctor's office and the patients on medicaid or welfare drove brand new cars, etc. Mmmmh hmmmm. I bet your mouth just started to water when I used the term, "fertility pharmacy"; something to really hang your hat on, lol. Way to go, Rush.


asking people to take responsibility for themselves is insane?


Great idea, let's see how you feel about these fine Americans, okay?

Rush Limbaugh- Adamant about life in jail for drug use. oops, he gets caught, buys his way off and just forgets about it.

Larry Craig- republican from Idaho. Sucked off dude in the Minneapolis Airport. Comments?

Mark Foley
- GOP Rep from FL, had sex with 18 yr old male intern.

Scooter Libby
- Busted for "outing a CIA Agent."

Karl Rove
- Busted for firing US Attorney's for not going after law abiding Democrats. Also caught lying about another 400 times as well, but who's counting?

Dick Cheney- What exactly did he do right? Lied about WMD, lied about Iraq's connection to 9/11, enabled former companies to get rich off bullshit wars.

George W Bush- LOL

Sure there are lots of Dems that are bad apples too, but I want to hear you cast these fuckers in the fiery lake of Hell. Bet you won't do it?
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Postby RaisedOnRadio92 » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:05 pm

Rockindeano wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:
fredinator wrote:
donnaplease wrote:
fredinator wrote:Oh for heaven's sake, DP, I was throwing some IDEAS out there, something that you cons never have. The prayer argument is weak, weak and lame. Is that argument still that children should recite a prayer in the morning or does it involve a moment a silence? Whatever it is, it doesn't belong in public schools. I don't believe in abortion either--for myself--but what other freaking ideas do YOU have, for those who don't have many options? Adoption? Some girls decide against adoption when the baby is born, then what? What happens if the baby has medical problems? A prayer then? Yeah, right, snort. Education/prevention is key for me.


Here's an idea... It's called TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for yourself! YOU educate your kids however you want, but keep your damned hands off mine! Fertility Pharmacy... Yeah, GREAT idea! :roll:

As for options, there are lots of options out there, and the ones that WANT to benefit from them, usually do.

p.s. Snorting is for pigs...


You are insane. Who are you talking about here ("the ones that WANT to benefit from them, usually do") that don't want to benefit from these options you speak of? That's right, I think I remember you saying once that you worked in a doctor's office and the patients on medicaid or welfare drove brand new cars, etc. Mmmmh hmmmm. I bet your mouth just started to water when I used the term, "fertility pharmacy"; something to really hang your hat on, lol. Way to go, Rush.


asking people to take responsibility for themselves is insane?


Great idea, let's see how you feel about these fine Americans, okay?

Rush Limbaugh- Adamant about life in jail for drug use. oops, he gets caught, buys his way off and just forgets about it.

Larry Craig- republican from Idaho. Sucked off dude in the Minneapolis Airport. Comments?

Mark Foley
- GOP Rep from FL, had sex with 18 yr old male intern.

Scooter Libby
- Busted for "outing a CIA Agent."

Karl Rove
- Busted for firing US Attorney's for not going after law abiding Democrats. Also caught lying about another 400 times as well, but who's counting?

Dick Cheney- What exactly did he do right? Lied about WMD, lied about Iraq's connection to 9/11, enabled former companies to get rich off bullshit wars.

George W Bush- LOL

Sure there are lots of Dems that are bad apples too, but I want to hear you cast these fuckers in the fiery lake of Hell. Bet you won't do it?



But surely we can't forget how Clinton had Monica stashed underneath his desk, can we?
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Postby Rockindeano » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:11 pm

RaisedOnRadio92 wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:
fredinator wrote:
donnaplease wrote:
fredinator wrote:Oh for heaven's sake, DP, I was throwing some IDEAS out there, something that you cons never have. The prayer argument is weak, weak and lame. Is that argument still that children should recite a prayer in the morning or does it involve a moment a silence? Whatever it is, it doesn't belong in public schools. I don't believe in abortion either--for myself--but what other freaking ideas do YOU have, for those who don't have many options? Adoption? Some girls decide against adoption when the baby is born, then what? What happens if the baby has medical problems? A prayer then? Yeah, right, snort. Education/prevention is key for me.


Here's an idea... It's called TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for yourself! YOU educate your kids however you want, but keep your damned hands off mine! Fertility Pharmacy... Yeah, GREAT idea! :roll:

As for options, there are lots of options out there, and the ones that WANT to benefit from them, usually do.

p.s. Snorting is for pigs...


You are insane. Who are you talking about here ("the ones that WANT to benefit from them, usually do") that don't want to benefit from these options you speak of? That's right, I think I remember you saying once that you worked in a doctor's office and the patients on medicaid or welfare drove brand new cars, etc. Mmmmh hmmmm. I bet your mouth just started to water when I used the term, "fertility pharmacy"; something to really hang your hat on, lol. Way to go, Rush.


asking people to take responsibility for themselves is insane?


Great idea, let's see how you feel about these fine Americans, okay?

Rush Limbaugh- Adamant about life in jail for drug use. oops, he gets caught, buys his way off and just forgets about it.

Larry Craig- republican from Idaho. Sucked off dude in the Minneapolis Airport. Comments?

Mark Foley
- GOP Rep from FL, had sex with 18 yr old male intern.

Scooter Libby
- Busted for "outing a CIA Agent."

Karl Rove
- Busted for firing US Attorney's for not going after law abiding Democrats. Also caught lying about another 400 times as well, but who's counting?

Dick Cheney- What exactly did he do right? Lied about WMD, lied about Iraq's connection to 9/11, enabled former companies to get rich off bullshit wars.

George W Bush- LOL

Sure there are lots of Dems that are bad apples too, but I want to hear you cast these fuckers in the fiery lake of Hell. Bet you won't do it?



But surely we can't forget how Clinton had Monica stashed underneath his desk, can we?


Learn to read douche, I said clearly, there are Dems that have also fucked up as well, however, since you are a douche....there's a big difference between getting a harmless bj, vs, starting a war that costs 4,000 and counting US Troops lives. I see the similarities, I really do. :roll: There in lies the problem with you dolts- hide behind God, and faith and then wrap yourselves in the flag and say "Country First." There is a reason that religion is kept out of the Constitution. A very good reason.
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Postby RaisedOnRadio92 » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:15 pm

Rockindeano wrote:
RaisedOnRadio92 wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:
fredinator wrote:
donnaplease wrote:
fredinator wrote:Oh for heaven's sake, DP, I was throwing some IDEAS out there, something that you cons never have. The prayer argument is weak, weak and lame. Is that argument still that children should recite a prayer in the morning or does it involve a moment a silence? Whatever it is, it doesn't belong in public schools. I don't believe in abortion either--for myself--but what other freaking ideas do YOU have, for those who don't have many options? Adoption? Some girls decide against adoption when the baby is born, then what? What happens if the baby has medical problems? A prayer then? Yeah, right, snort. Education/prevention is key for me.


Here's an idea... It's called TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for yourself! YOU educate your kids however you want, but keep your damned hands off mine! Fertility Pharmacy... Yeah, GREAT idea! :roll:

As for options, there are lots of options out there, and the ones that WANT to benefit from them, usually do.

p.s. Snorting is for pigs...


You are insane. Who are you talking about here ("the ones that WANT to benefit from them, usually do") that don't want to benefit from these options you speak of? That's right, I think I remember you saying once that you worked in a doctor's office and the patients on medicaid or welfare drove brand new cars, etc. Mmmmh hmmmm. I bet your mouth just started to water when I used the term, "fertility pharmacy"; something to really hang your hat on, lol. Way to go, Rush.


asking people to take responsibility for themselves is insane?


Great idea, let's see how you feel about these fine Americans, okay?

Rush Limbaugh- Adamant about life in jail for drug use. oops, he gets caught, buys his way off and just forgets about it.

Larry Craig- republican from Idaho. Sucked off dude in the Minneapolis Airport. Comments?

Mark Foley
- GOP Rep from FL, had sex with 18 yr old male intern.

Scooter Libby
- Busted for "outing a CIA Agent."

Karl Rove
- Busted for firing US Attorney's for not going after law abiding Democrats. Also caught lying about another 400 times as well, but who's counting?

Dick Cheney- What exactly did he do right? Lied about WMD, lied about Iraq's connection to 9/11, enabled former companies to get rich off bullshit wars.

George W Bush- LOL

Sure there are lots of Dems that are bad apples too, but I want to hear you cast these fuckers in the fiery lake of Hell. Bet you won't do it?



But surely we can't forget how Clinton had Monica stashed underneath his desk, can we?


Learn to read douche, I said clearly, there are Dems that have also fucked up as well, however, since you are a douche....there's a big difference between getting a harmless bj, vs, starting a war that costs 4,000 and counting US Troops lives. I see the similarities, I really do. :roll: There in lies the problem with you dolts- hide behind God, and faith and then wrap yourselves in the flag and say "Country First."


Aww gee, you cussed me out and covered sad attempt at a comeback with insults. How will I ever pick up the pieces and recover?

Face is Deano, your story is tired. You aren't proving ANY points by trolling.
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Postby Rockindeano » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:17 pm

RaisedOnRadio92 wrote:Face is Deano, your story is tired. You aren't proving ANY points by trolling.


Ok, point taken. Have fun Ditto Heads. I have nothing to add here and I believe I was told that I am bankrupt intellectually. I promise not to speak here in this thread again.
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Postby RaisedOnRadio92 » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:19 pm

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RaisedOnRadio92 wrote:Face is Deano, your story is tired. You aren't proving ANY points by trolling.


Ok, point taken. Have fun Ditto Heads. I have nothing to add here and I believe I was told that I am bankrupt intellectually. I promise not to speak here in this thread again.



That'll last about as long as the Cash 4 Clunkers program.
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Postby fredinator » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:21 pm

Maureen Dowd:

Like cats that have lost their whiskers, the Republicans seem off balance now that they have lost their talent for hypocrisy.

They are still practicing the ancient political art of Tartuffery, of course, just without their former aplomb.

Who can forget the glory years, when the Gipper invoked God but never went to church? When Arlen Specter accused Anita Hill of perjury to distract from Clarence Thomas’s false witness? When Newt Gingrich and other conservatives indulged in affairs with young Washington peaches as they pushed to impeach Bill Clinton?

No one had more flair than W. and Cheney, crowing about making us safe as they made the world more dangerous, and bragging about fiscal restraint while they spent us into oblivion.

Now when Republicans get caught flouting the principles they dictate, they are not able to practice hypocrisy with such impunity.

Loverboy Mark Sanford’s career continued to go south last week as news organizations exposed his two-faced tactics on travel expenses. When he ran for South Carolina governor in 2002, he attacked the Democratic incumbent for “lavish spending” on hotels and planes. Once elected, he asked state employees to bunk together in hotel rooms when they traveled and chastised staffers who spent more than the $208 federal rate.

But, as Politico reports: “He routinely billed taxpayers for high-end airline seats, racking up more than $44,000 on business and first-class tickets. He often stayed in pricey hotels that far exceeded the rates he imposed on other state employees.” On a trade mission to China, Sanford spent $12,000 on business-class tickets, leaving aides in economy for about $1,900.

The religious boardinghouse in Washington where Sanford sought succor from fellow conservatives, where he agonized to pals about his tango with the enticing María, is also back in the news. Affiliated with a secretive Capitol Hill group known as the Fellowship — which also sponsored Bible study and prayer circles attended by Hillary Clinton when she was a senator — the pious dwelling is becoming a tourist attraction, a monument to Republican hypocrisy.

The C Street house, as the flag-flying brick rowhouse near the Capitol is known, serves as a residence and Bible study retreat for many Christian conservative lawmakers. But it looks as if what these guys were praying for was a chance to get lucky.

John Ensign, the Promise Keeper who broke all his promises, resides there. As The Washington Post reported, Senator Tom Coburn, who lives there, had an emotional meeting about forgiveness at the house with Doug Hampton, the husband of Ensign’s mistress. (Forgiveness plus bribery can often do the trick.) Coburn says he would not talk to a court or the Senate ethics committee about the episode because he was counseling Ensign partly as a doctor. (Coburn is an ob-gyn.)

Last week, The Associated Press revealed that the estranged wife of a former Republican congressman, Chip Pickering of Mississippi, had filed an alienation of affection lawsuit seeking damages against her husband’s gal pal, a wealthy former college sweetheart named Elizabeth Creekmore Byrd.

The suit charges that as a lawmaker, Chip used C Street as a divine love nest. “Ultimately,” it says, “Creekmore Byrd gave Pickering the option to remain a public servant or become a private citizen and continue relations with her.”

Republican hypocrisy fell flat at the Sotomayor hearings. After railing all week against the “empathy standard,” as Senator Jeff Sessions called it, the Republicans tried to play the empathy card by calling in two New Haven firefighters, one white and one Hispanic, who were on the losing end of Sonia Sotomayor’s ruling. Wearing their dress uniforms, the pair told their heart-tugging tales of studying for an exam that got thrown out after they scored high. Frank Ricci, who studied hard to overcome his dyslexia, used his finger to trace under the words as he read his testimony.

But the Republican complaint against Sotomayor in that case boiled down to wanting her to be more activist. They were upset that she sided with elected officials and precedent rather than intervening to strike down a result that many people, including me, found unfair.

Sotomayor’s syntax was unfathomable, but the Republicans’ language sounded positively archaic: dire warnings against activist judges, when the conservative majority on this Supreme Court has ignored or upended precedent in a slew of cases.

Judge Sotomayor kept her feelings in check, while her white male Republican interrogators dissolved into whining about wanting to keep their guns and nunchakus and wishing they could get back some sway over what women do with their bodies.

If they are so interested in women’s bodies, maybe they should just move to C Street.
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Postby treetopovskaya » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:23 pm

Rockindeano wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:
fredinator wrote:
donnaplease wrote:
fredinator wrote:Oh for heaven's sake, DP, I was throwing some IDEAS out there, something that you cons never have. The prayer argument is weak, weak and lame. Is that argument still that children should recite a prayer in the morning or does it involve a moment a silence? Whatever it is, it doesn't belong in public schools. I don't believe in abortion either--for myself--but what other freaking ideas do YOU have, for those who don't have many options? Adoption? Some girls decide against adoption when the baby is born, then what? What happens if the baby has medical problems? A prayer then? Yeah, right, snort. Education/prevention is key for me.


Here's an idea... It's called TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for yourself! YOU educate your kids however you want, but keep your damned hands off mine! Fertility Pharmacy... Yeah, GREAT idea! :roll:

As for options, there are lots of options out there, and the ones that WANT to benefit from them, usually do.

p.s. Snorting is for pigs...


You are insane. Who are you talking about here ("the ones that WANT to benefit from them, usually do") that don't want to benefit from these options you speak of? That's right, I think I remember you saying once that you worked in a doctor's office and the patients on medicaid or welfare drove brand new cars, etc. Mmmmh hmmmm. I bet your mouth just started to water when I used the term, "fertility pharmacy"; something to really hang your hat on, lol. Way to go, Rush.


asking people to take responsibility for themselves is insane?


Great idea, let's see how you feel about these fine Americans, okay?

Rush Limbaugh- Adamant about life in jail for drug use. oops, he gets caught, buys his way off and just forgets about it.

Larry Craig- republican from Idaho. Sucked off dude in the Minneapolis Airport. Comments?

Mark Foley
- GOP Rep from FL, had sex with 18 yr old male intern.

Scooter Libby
- Busted for "outing a CIA Agent."

Karl Rove
- Busted for firing US Attorney's for not going after law abiding Democrats. Also caught lying about another 400 times as well, but who's counting?

Dick Cheney- What exactly did he do right? Lied about WMD, lied about Iraq's connection to 9/11, enabled former companies to get rich off bullshit wars.

George W Bush- LOL

Sure there are lots of Dems that are bad apples too, but I want to hear you cast these fuckers in the fiery lake of Hell. Bet you won't do it?


what do those people have to do with what we're talking about? haha!

we're talking about regular folks... WE need to take responsibility for ourselves. why is that insane to say?
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Postby treetopovskaya » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:26 pm

Rockindeano wrote:
RaisedOnRadio92 wrote:Face is Deano, your story is tired. You aren't proving ANY points by trolling.


Ok, point taken. Have fun Ditto Heads. I have nothing to add here and I believe I was told that I am bankrupt intellectually. I promise not to speak here in this thread again.


you're such a big baby. haha!

and...

yeah right.
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Postby treetopovskaya » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:27 pm

RaisedOnRadio92 wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
RaisedOnRadio92 wrote:Face is Deano, your story is tired. You aren't proving ANY points by trolling.


Ok, point taken. Have fun Ditto Heads. I have nothing to add here and I believe I was told that I am bankrupt intellectually. I promise not to speak here in this thread again.



That'll last about as long as the Cash 4 Clunkers program.


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Postby treetopovskaya » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:29 pm

fredinator wrote:Maureen Dowd:

Like cats that have lost their whiskers, the Republicans seem off balance now that they have lost their talent for hypocrisy.

They are still practicing the ancient political art of Tartuffery, of course, just without their former aplomb.

Who can forget the glory years, when the Gipper invoked God but never went to church? When Arlen Specter accused Anita Hill of perjury to distract from Clarence Thomas’s false witness? When Newt Gingrich and other conservatives indulged in affairs with young Washington peaches as they pushed to impeach Bill Clinton?

No one had more flair than W. and Cheney, crowing about making us safe as they made the world more dangerous, and bragging about fiscal restraint while they spent us into oblivion.

Now when Republicans get caught flouting the principles they dictate, they are not able to practice hypocrisy with such impunity.

Loverboy Mark Sanford’s career continued to go south last week as news organizations exposed his two-faced tactics on travel expenses. When he ran for South Carolina governor in 2002, he attacked the Democratic incumbent for “lavish spending” on hotels and planes. Once elected, he asked state employees to bunk together in hotel rooms when they traveled and chastised staffers who spent more than the $208 federal rate.

But, as Politico reports: “He routinely billed taxpayers for high-end airline seats, racking up more than $44,000 on business and first-class tickets. He often stayed in pricey hotels that far exceeded the rates he imposed on other state employees.” On a trade mission to China, Sanford spent $12,000 on business-class tickets, leaving aides in economy for about $1,900.

The religious boardinghouse in Washington where Sanford sought succor from fellow conservatives, where he agonized to pals about his tango with the enticing María, is also back in the news. Affiliated with a secretive Capitol Hill group known as the Fellowship — which also sponsored Bible study and prayer circles attended by Hillary Clinton when she was a senator — the pious dwelling is becoming a tourist attraction, a monument to Republican hypocrisy.

The C Street house, as the flag-flying brick rowhouse near the Capitol is known, serves as a residence and Bible study retreat for many Christian conservative lawmakers. But it looks as if what these guys were praying for was a chance to get lucky.

John Ensign, the Promise Keeper who broke all his promises, resides there. As The Washington Post reported, Senator Tom Coburn, who lives there, had an emotional meeting about forgiveness at the house with Doug Hampton, the husband of Ensign’s mistress. (Forgiveness plus bribery can often do the trick.) Coburn says he would not talk to a court or the Senate ethics committee about the episode because he was counseling Ensign partly as a doctor. (Coburn is an ob-gyn.)

Last week, The Associated Press revealed that the estranged wife of a former Republican congressman, Chip Pickering of Mississippi, had filed an alienation of affection lawsuit seeking damages against her husband’s gal pal, a wealthy former college sweetheart named Elizabeth Creekmore Byrd.

The suit charges that as a lawmaker, Chip used C Street as a divine love nest. “Ultimately,” it says, “Creekmore Byrd gave Pickering the option to remain a public servant or become a private citizen and continue relations with her.”

Republican hypocrisy fell flat at the Sotomayor hearings. After railing all week against the “empathy standard,” as Senator Jeff Sessions called it, the Republicans tried to play the empathy card by calling in two New Haven firefighters, one white and one Hispanic, who were on the losing end of Sonia Sotomayor’s ruling. Wearing their dress uniforms, the pair told their heart-tugging tales of studying for an exam that got thrown out after they scored high. Frank Ricci, who studied hard to overcome his dyslexia, used his finger to trace under the words as he read his testimony.

But the Republican complaint against Sotomayor in that case boiled down to wanting her to be more activist. They were upset that she sided with elected officials and precedent rather than intervening to strike down a result that many people, including me, found unfair.

Sotomayor’s syntax was unfathomable, but the Republicans’ language sounded positively archaic: dire warnings against activist judges, when the conservative majority on this Supreme Court has ignored or upended precedent in a slew of cases.

Judge Sotomayor kept her feelings in check, while her white male Republican interrogators dissolved into whining about wanting to keep their guns and nunchakus and wishing they could get back some sway over what women do with their bodies.

If they are so interested in women’s bodies, maybe they should just move to C Street.


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Postby treetopovskaya » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:58 pm

Rockindeano wrote:I guess I got defeated by two people who side with a party that has gotten its collective ass beat in the last two elections.

See, I don't have to explain anything. I am on the good side...you fuckers are on the evil side...and yes, I firmly believe republicans, the powers that be in the republican party that is(not you folks personally), are evil motherfuckers. But I guess I am defeated so I guess we will cease to debate further. My BA in Poly Sci is worthless I guess.


yeah... right.
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Postby treetopovskaya » Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:02 pm

Rockindeano wrote:
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fredinator wrote:Oh for heaven's sake, DP, I was throwing some IDEAS out there, something that you cons never have. The prayer argument is weak, weak and lame. Is that argument still that children should recite a prayer in the morning or does it involve a moment a silence? Whatever it is, it doesn't belong in public schools. I don't believe in abortion either--for myself--but what other freaking ideas do YOU have, for those who don't have many options? Adoption? Some girls decide against adoption when the baby is born, then what? What happens if the baby has medical problems? A prayer then? Yeah, right, snort. Education/prevention is key for me.


Here's an idea... It's called TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for yourself! YOU educate your kids however you want, but keep your damned hands off mine! Fertility Pharmacy... Yeah, GREAT idea! :roll:

As for options, there are lots of options out there, and the ones that WANT to benefit from them, usually do.

p.s. Snorting is for pigs...


You are insane. Who are you talking about here ("the ones that WANT to benefit from them, usually do") that don't want to benefit from these options you speak of? That's right, I think I remember you saying once that you worked in a doctor's office and the patients on medicaid or welfare drove brand new cars, etc. Mmmmh hmmmm. I bet your mouth just started to water when I used the term, "fertility pharmacy"; something to really hang your hat on, lol. Way to go, Rush.


asking people to take responsibility for themselves is insane?


Great idea, let's see how you feel about these fine Americans, okay?

Rush Limbaugh- Adamant about life in jail for drug use. oops, he gets caught, buys his way off and just forgets about it.

Larry Craig- republican from Idaho. Sucked off dude in the Minneapolis Airport. Comments?

Mark Foley
- GOP Rep from FL, had sex with 18 yr old male intern.

Scooter Libby
- Busted for "outing a CIA Agent."

Karl Rove
- Busted for firing US Attorney's for not going after law abiding Democrats. Also caught lying about another 400 times as well, but who's counting?

Dick Cheney- What exactly did he do right? Lied about WMD, lied about Iraq's connection to 9/11, enabled former companies to get rich off bullshit wars.

George W Bush- LOL

Sure there are lots of Dems that are bad apples too, but I want to hear you cast these fuckers in the fiery lake of Hell. Bet you won't do it?


btw...

half of obama's cabinet have not paid their taxes!!
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Postby Lula » Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:11 pm

who? names please, that kind of stuff pisses me off!
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Postby treetopovskaya » Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:34 pm

Lula wrote:who? names please, that kind of stuff pisses me off!


i know. people not paying their taxes pisses me off too!
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Postby Lula » Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:43 pm

and it always seems to be people making a lot of money (i know that's relative) who seem to evade taxes. not cool at all. i know geithner messed up and paid, but who else?
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Postby treetopovskaya » Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:50 pm

it's ironic that the party who is for raising taxes & having all kinds of entitlements has so many people cheating & not paying their taxes.
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Postby Lula » Tue Aug 25, 2009 3:00 pm

so who is not paying taxes? seriously. do you have a link or something?
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Postby treetopovskaya » Tue Aug 25, 2009 3:02 pm

Lula wrote:so who is not paying taxes? seriously. do you have a link or something?


it's well documented. do some research. google. }:C)
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Postby treetopovskaya » Tue Aug 25, 2009 3:07 pm

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Postby Lula » Tue Aug 25, 2009 3:17 pm

thanks for the shortcut to google. i'm not going to research your claim. why not share the source? saying that half of the cabinet are tax cheats has to have come from somewhere. if you don't want to share that's fine, i'll just take it as an unsubstantiated claim on your part. no biggie.
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Postby treetopovskaya » Tue Aug 25, 2009 3:31 pm

Lula wrote:thanks for the shortcut to google. i'm not going to research your claim. why not share the source? saying that half of the cabinet are tax cheats has to have come from somewhere. if you don't want to share that's fine, i'll just take it as an unsubstantiated claim on your part. no biggie.


lula... it was all over the news when obama was nominating his cabinet.

here's one...

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washing ... -taxe.html
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Postby treetopovskaya » Tue Aug 25, 2009 3:32 pm

now i want dean to post links to all his claims.
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Postby Lula » Tue Aug 25, 2009 3:37 pm

nominations does not equate cabinet members. to state that half of the cabinet are tax cheats and link to a story from march talking about nominees.... yeah, not so much, but nice try ;).
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