2011-2012 NFL Season Thread

[YoungJRNY]

Lots of rumors swirling that QB Matt Flynn could end up down in Miami.Also hearing that the Rams are willing to trade the number two pick which was will most likely be used on QB Griffin.

That #2 pick is automatic to RGIII. The first 2 picks will be Luck and RGIII reserved. The fun part is, is that I'm sure there will be sleeper teams in the mix that are willing to give up a boatload of future draft picks to the Rams and move up and take RGIII. The Browns and Redskins are reported with the most interest to move up, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a team like Kansas City makes a humongous jump from #11 to #2 to get RGIII but the Browns and 'Skins are in perfect position.

[Seven Wishes2]

I think Minnesota needs to make a run at the #2 pick. The window of opportunity with Peterson is closing - while I do think he'll come back and play well, I believe he only has a couple more dominant years left. The Vikings really arnen't THAT bad - if they had had even a warm body at QB the past two years instead of Jackson and Ponder, they would have been close to or over .500. Not that I give a fuck about Minnesota. Just an observation.

The Pats need to sign Vincent Jackson if/when they lock up Welker for 3 plus years, because I don't see Reggie Wayne NOT landing wherever Peyton does next year. While he does have a prima donna attitude, Jackson is the most talented wideout in the very deep FT WR pool, and comes without having to sacrifice a #1.

Still, without re-signing Ellis and Anderson, and either acquiring Mario Williams or a good safety, it's still going to be a matter of New England simply outscoring its oppornents. Lock up those two RFA's and either Williams and two good cover guys, and the D will be strong enough for them to win some games by pretty significant margins, consistently.

[YoungJRNY]

March 7, 2012, 10:08 AM ET


Source: Colts to release Peyton Manning

Peyton Manning's 14-year career with the Indianapolis Colts is coming to an end after owner Jim Irsay informed the four-time NFL MVP on Monday night that the team will release him, according to team sources.

Irsay and Manning traveled together Tuesday night from South Florida on Irsay's private jet and will conduct a joint news conference at noon ET on Wednesday, which sources said will be to announce the quarterback's departure.

Already teams are lining up to the left to ink Manning:

Miami Dolphins
N.Y Jets
Washington Redskins
Seattle Seahawks
and Kansas City Chiefs & Tennessee Titans may make a push.

But Seattle has made it known they are willing to come out 'blazing for Manning:

Report: Seahawks willing to spend big for Peyton Manning

The NFL’s wealthiest owner may be willing to give a sizable chunk of his wealth to Peyton Manning.

The Seattle Seahawks are planning to “come out checkbook blazing” for Manning, a source tells Rich Cimini of ESPNNewYork.com, who is also reporting that the Jets will check Manning out.

Seahawks owner Paul Allen has a net worth estimated at $13.5 billion, making him about $10 billion richer than the second-wealthiest NFL owner, Stephen Ross of the Dolphins. So from Allen’s perspective, money will not be an issue.

The Seahawks are right in the middle of the NFL in terms of how much cap space they have available, so getting a deal done under the cap shouldn’t be an issue either.

Whether the Seahawks are the right fit for Manning from a football perspective remains to be seen, but from a financial perspective, it sounds like the Seahawks would be willing to make him a competitive offer.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... n-manning/

[Ehwmatt]

The Cardinals would be the best fit for Manning. Young team, one of the best receivers in football, a premier kick and punt returner (does Peterson return kicks or just punts?) and corner who can get him excellent field position by returns and INTs, and a pass-happy offense. Oh, did I mention shit conference? Yeah, that too.

49ers would be scary, too.

[mikemarrs]

The Cardinals would be the best fit for Manning. Young team, one of the best receivers in football, a premier kick and punt returner (does Peterson return kicks or just punts?) and corner who can get him excellent field position by returns and INTs, and a pass-happy offense. Oh, did I mention shit conference? Yeah, that too.

49ers would be scary, too.

Some people are saying Manning may want Reggie Wayne to join him on his new team.I think Manning might be a good fit there in Arizona plus imagine Reggie Wayne and Larry Fitzgerald to throw to.

[mikemarrs]

March 7, 2012, 10:08 AM ET


Source: Colts to release Peyton Manning

Peyton Manning's 14-year career with the Indianapolis Colts is coming to an end after owner Jim Irsay informed the four-time NFL MVP on Monday night that the team will release him, according to team sources.

Irsay and Manning traveled together Tuesday night from South Florida on Irsay's private jet and will conduct a joint news conference at noon ET on Wednesday, which sources said will be to announce the quarterback's departure.

Already teams are lining up to the left to ink Manning:

Miami Dolphins
N.Y Jets
Washington Redskins
Seattle Seahawks
and Kansas City Chiefs & Tennessee Titans may make a push.

But Seattle has made it known they are willing to come out 'blazing for Manning:

Report: Seahawks willing to spend big for Peyton Manning

The NFL’s wealthiest owner may be willing to give a sizable chunk of his wealth to Peyton Manning.

The Seattle Seahawks are planning to “come out checkbook blazing” for Manning, a source tells Rich Cimini of ESPNNewYork.com, who is also reporting that the Jets will check Manning out.

Seahawks owner Paul Allen has a net worth estimated at $13.5 billion, making him about $10 billion richer than the second-wealthiest NFL owner, Stephen Ross of the Dolphins. So from Allen’s perspective, money will not be an issue.

The Seahawks are right in the middle of the NFL in terms of how much cap space they have available, so getting a deal done under the cap shouldn’t be an issue either.

Whether the Seahawks are the right fit for Manning from a football perspective remains to be seen, but from a financial perspective, it sounds like the Seahawks would be willing to make him a competitive offer.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... n-manning/

IF the Jets pick up Manning i think that would definitely make them a scary team to watch out for.For some reason i see Miami somehow ending up with him but who knows.Wow if Seattle gets him i think they would definitely be a much better team plus they have a good RB in Lynch.The Seahawks would have to get their Offensive line in shape.

[Ehwmatt]

March 7, 2012, 10:08 AM ET


Source: Colts to release Peyton Manning

Peyton Manning's 14-year career with the Indianapolis Colts is coming to an end after owner Jim Irsay informed the four-time NFL MVP on Monday night that the team will release him, according to team sources.

Irsay and Manning traveled together Tuesday night from South Florida on Irsay's private jet and will conduct a joint news conference at noon ET on Wednesday, which sources said will be to announce the quarterback's departure.

Already teams are lining up to the left to ink Manning:

Miami Dolphins
N.Y Jets
Washington Redskins
Seattle Seahawks
and Kansas City Chiefs & Tennessee Titans may make a push.

But Seattle has made it known they are willing to come out 'blazing for Manning:

Report: Seahawks willing to spend big for Peyton Manning

The NFL’s wealthiest owner may be willing to give a sizable chunk of his wealth to Peyton Manning.

The Seattle Seahawks are planning to “come out checkbook blazing” for Manning, a source tells Rich Cimini of ESPNNewYork.com, who is also reporting that the Jets will check Manning out.

Seahawks owner Paul Allen has a net worth estimated at $13.5 billion, making him about $10 billion richer than the second-wealthiest NFL owner, Stephen Ross of the Dolphins. So from Allen’s perspective, money will not be an issue.

The Seahawks are right in the middle of the NFL in terms of how much cap space they have available, so getting a deal done under the cap shouldn’t be an issue either.

Whether the Seahawks are the right fit for Manning from a football perspective remains to be seen, but from a financial perspective, it sounds like the Seahawks would be willing to make him a competitive offer.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... n-manning/

IF the Jets pick up Manning i think that would definitely make them a scary team to watch out for.For some reason i see Miami somehow ending up with him but who knows.Wow if Seattle gets him i think they would definitely be a much better team plus they have a good RB in Lynch.The Seahawks would have to get their Offensive line in shape.

Both Mannings in NY would be an obnoxious media story line. I think the Jets window of opportunity has closed for now. Their receiver corps is in disarray, their running game is a question mark, their locker room is an even bigger question mark, and I think they overachieved even when they were making two straight AFC championship games.

They were not a good team last year, and it wasn't all because Mark Sanchez is a below-mediocre QB.

I'd like to see Peyton elsewhere and I don't see NYJ being a good fit for him.

[mikemarrs]

Longtime Indianapolis receiver Reggie Wayne is heading toward free agency having heard nothing from the Colts about whether they want him back, and so the conversations are starting about where Wayne’s landing place could be. Unsurprisingly, the Dolphins appear to be a strong candidate.

Wayne played for the Miami Hurricanes and spends his offseasons in Miami, and Omar Kelly of the Sun-Sentinel reports that Wayne would be open to signing with the Dolphins.

That, of course, raises immediate questions about whether Wayne and Peyton Manning, who could go somewhere as a package deal, will find themselves as teammates in Miami, as they have been in Indianapolis since Wayne was drafted in 2001. On today’s Dan Patrick Show, Tony Dungy, who coached both men, said, “I wouldn’t be surprised if Reggie ends up where ever Peyton ends up.”

[Ehwmatt]

This is just for total laughs, but imagine a Moss-Fitz-Wayne combination in Arizona with Peyton at the helm. That is downright frightening, and with Moss and Wayne on the downside of their careers, I imagine both of them can be had without breaking the salary cap.

[YoungJRNY]

I think Arizona has the exact architecture and makeup that the Colts had in place around Manning for the better 10+ years of this decade. Arizona runs an eerily similar offense on the fast track and wherever Peyton goes, Wayne goes.

Not only does Arizona have the speed on the fast track and relentless passing game that's so desired and is seriously ONE quarterback away from doing great things, they own, to what I always believed, is the best wide receiver in the business in Larry Fitzgerald. Fitzgerald would play the role of Marvin Harrison in the Cardinals offense (may even do it better, more physical) with Manning and like I said, Wayne would probably be to follow, maybe even Pierre Garcon as well.

Arizona has a very, very loud stadium and a potent offense can certainly help a defense in that kind of environment. Also, Beanie wells reminds me of an Edgerin James type-back so the pieces are in place for the Cards. I have the same exact feeling with the Chiefs. I feel the Chiefs own the same components with Bowe, Charles, Breaston, McCluster, Moeaki, all pieces to the puzzle and a well-liked coach in Romeo Crennel leading the team.

However, I believe in the end, he'll probably be a Miami Dolphin. That makes the most sense from top to bottom when it comes to not only a mega-star, but an attraction to all of Miami and what it would bring in for that franchise to sell tickets and bring in an enchanted buzz and magic to the organization.

As for a team like the Jets, they just come off as scummy and I don't see a head coach like Rex Ryan having a good relationship with a guy like Peyton Manning. I feel Manning would look to Rex as a toolbag and is the WORST fit for Manning on the board. That locker room is in worse shambles than our economy at the moment and Manning would be walking into a lions-den.

Going to be fun.

[Ehwmatt]

I think Arizona has the exact architecture and makeup that the Colts had in place around Manning for the better 10+ years of this decade. Arizona runs an eerily similar offense on the fast track and wherever Peyton goes, Wayne goes.

Not only does Arizona have the speed on the fast track and relentless passing game that's so desired and is seriously ONE quarterback away from doing great things, they own, to what I always believed, is the best wide receiver in the business in Larry Fitzgerald. Fitzgerald would play the role of Marvin Harrison in the Cardinals offense (may even do it better, more physical) with Manning and like I said, Wayne would probably be to follow, maybe even Pierre Garcon as well.

Arizona has a very, very loud stadium and a potent offense can certainly help a defense in that kind of environment. Also, Beanie wells reminds me of an Edgerin James type-back so the pieces are in place for the Cards. I have the same exact feeling with the Chiefs. I feel the Chiefs own the same components with Bowe, Charles, Breaston, McCluster, Moeaki, all pieces to the puzzle and a well-liked coach in Romeo Crennel leading the team.

However, I believe in the end, he'll probably be a Miami Dolphin. That makes the most sense from top to bottom when it comes to not only a mega-star, but an attraction to all of Miami and what it would bring in for that franchise to sell tickets and bring in an enchanted buzz and magic to the organization.

As for a team like the Jets, they just come off as scummy and I don't see a head coach like Rex Ryan having a good relationship with a guy like Peyton Manning. I feel Manning would look to Rex as a toolbag and is the WORST fit for Manning on the board. That locker room is in worse shambles than our economy at the moment and Manning would be walking into a lions-den.

Going to be fun.

Is Miami really that great of a football market? If other Florida sports (e.g., the pathetically attended Heat) are any measure, it'd be nothing special for him to go down there.

[YoungJRNY]

I think Arizona has the exact architecture and makeup that the Colts had in place around Manning for the better 10+ years of this decade. Arizona runs an eerily similar offense on the fast track and wherever Peyton goes, Wayne goes.

Not only does Arizona have the speed on the fast track and relentless passing game that's so desired and is seriously ONE quarterback away from doing great things, they own, to what I always believed, is the best wide receiver in the business in Larry Fitzgerald. Fitzgerald would play the role of Marvin Harrison in the Cardinals offense (may even do it better, more physical) with Manning and like I said, Wayne would probably be to follow, maybe even Pierre Garcon as well.

Arizona has a very, very loud stadium and a potent offense can certainly help a defense in that kind of environment. Also, Beanie wells reminds me of an Edgerin James type-back so the pieces are in place for the Cards. I have the same exact feeling with the Chiefs. I feel the Chiefs own the same components with Bowe, Charles, Breaston, McCluster, Moeaki, all pieces to the puzzle and a well-liked coach in Romeo Crennel leading the team.

However, I believe in the end, he'll probably be a Miami Dolphin. That makes the most sense from top to bottom when it comes to not only a mega-star, but an attraction to all of Miami and what it would bring in for that franchise to sell tickets and bring in an enchanted buzz and magic to the organization.

As for a team like the Jets, they just come off as scummy and I don't see a head coach like Rex Ryan having a good relationship with a guy like Peyton Manning. I feel Manning would look to Rex as a toolbag and is the WORST fit for Manning on the board. That locker room is in worse shambles than our economy at the moment and Manning would be walking into a lions-den.

Going to be fun.

Is Miami really that great of a football market? If other Florida sports (e.g., the pathetically attended Heat) are any measure, it'd be nothing special for him to go down there.

They would be if Manning signs a deal. The same situation occurred in Indianapolis. Indy was nowhere near a football town before Manning arrived. He changed the entire culture of Indianapolis since they were nothing but an Indiana basketball hardcore town. Miami is in dire need of Manning not only to the football team, but also the attraction to all of Miami when factoring in ticket sales and turning the franchise around with the buzz on the streets and putting Miami into the limelight in NFL football.

[AR]

I think Arizona has the exact architecture and makeup that the Colts had in place around Manning for the better 10+ years of this decade. Arizona runs an eerily similar offense on the fast track and wherever Peyton goes, Wayne goes.

Not only does Arizona have the speed on the fast track and relentless passing game that's so desired and is seriously ONE quarterback away from doing great things, they own, to what I always believed, is the best wide receiver in the business in Larry Fitzgerald. Fitzgerald would play the role of Marvin Harrison in the Cardinals offense (may even do it better, more physical) with Manning and like I said, Wayne would probably be to follow, maybe even Pierre Garcon as well.

Arizona has a very, very loud stadium and a potent offense can certainly help a defense in that kind of environment. Also, Beanie wells reminds me of an Edgerin James type-back so the pieces are in place for the Cards. I have the same exact feeling with the Chiefs. I feel the Chiefs own the same components with Bowe, Charles, Breaston, McCluster, Moeaki, all pieces to the puzzle and a well-liked coach in Romeo Crennel leading the team.

However, I believe in the end, he'll probably be a Miami Dolphin. That makes the most sense from top to bottom when it comes to not only a mega-star, but an attraction to all of Miami and what it would bring in for that franchise to sell tickets and bring in an enchanted buzz and magic to the organization.

As for a team like the Jets, they just come off as scummy and I don't see a head coach like Rex Ryan having a good relationship with a guy like Peyton Manning. I feel Manning would look to Rex as a toolbag and is the WORST fit for Manning on the board. That locker room is in worse shambles than our economy at the moment and Manning would be walking into a lions-den.

Going to be fun.

Is Miami really that great of a football market? If other Florida sports (e.g., the pathetically attended Heat) are any measure, it'd be nothing special for him to go down there.

I'm consistently amazed by the amount of empty seats there are at Dolphins games. Sure there are multitudes of things to do in Miami but that stadium looks barely 3 quarters full at all times.

[Ehwmatt]

I think Arizona has the exact architecture and makeup that the Colts had in place around Manning for the better 10+ years of this decade. Arizona runs an eerily similar offense on the fast track and wherever Peyton goes, Wayne goes.

Not only does Arizona have the speed on the fast track and relentless passing game that's so desired and is seriously ONE quarterback away from doing great things, they own, to what I always believed, is the best wide receiver in the business in Larry Fitzgerald. Fitzgerald would play the role of Marvin Harrison in the Cardinals offense (may even do it better, more physical) with Manning and like I said, Wayne would probably be to follow, maybe even Pierre Garcon as well.

Arizona has a very, very loud stadium and a potent offense can certainly help a defense in that kind of environment. Also, Beanie wells reminds me of an Edgerin James type-back so the pieces are in place for the Cards. I have the same exact feeling with the Chiefs. I feel the Chiefs own the same components with Bowe, Charles, Breaston, McCluster, Moeaki, all pieces to the puzzle and a well-liked coach in Romeo Crennel leading the team.

However, I believe in the end, he'll probably be a Miami Dolphin. That makes the most sense from top to bottom when it comes to not only a mega-star, but an attraction to all of Miami and what it would bring in for that franchise to sell tickets and bring in an enchanted buzz and magic to the organization.

As for a team like the Jets, they just come off as scummy and I don't see a head coach like Rex Ryan having a good relationship with a guy like Peyton Manning. I feel Manning would look to Rex as a toolbag and is the WORST fit for Manning on the board. That locker room is in worse shambles than our economy at the moment and Manning would be walking into a lions-den.

Going to be fun.

Is Miami really that great of a football market? If other Florida sports (e.g., the pathetically attended Heat) are any measure, it'd be nothing special for him to go down there.

They would be if Manning signs a deal. The same situation occurred in Indianapolis. Indy was nowhere near a football town before Manning arrived. He changed the entire culture of Indianapolis since they were nothing but an Indiana basketball hardcore town. Miami is in dire need of Manning not only to the football team, but also the attraction to all of Miami when factoring in ticket sales and turning the franchise around with the buzz on the streets and putting Miami into the limelight in NFL football.

Sorry bud, but I think your theory is flawed. Miami or any other Florida city will NEVER be great pro sports towns.

Peyton would bring in more people. But have you ever seen a Miami Heat game? Better sports towns would never let a seat sit empty with that kind of team and that kind of star power. But Miami is a shit sports town and Peyton or anyone else won't change that.

[YoungJRNY]

I think Arizona has the exact architecture and makeup that the Colts had in place around Manning for the better 10+ years of this decade. Arizona runs an eerily similar offense on the fast track and wherever Peyton goes, Wayne goes.

Not only does Arizona have the speed on the fast track and relentless passing game that's so desired and is seriously ONE quarterback away from doing great things, they own, to what I always believed, is the best wide receiver in the business in Larry Fitzgerald. Fitzgerald would play the role of Marvin Harrison in the Cardinals offense (may even do it better, more physical) with Manning and like I said, Wayne would probably be to follow, maybe even Pierre Garcon as well.

Arizona has a very, very loud stadium and a potent offense can certainly help a defense in that kind of environment. Also, Beanie wells reminds me of an Edgerin James type-back so the pieces are in place for the Cards. I have the same exact feeling with the Chiefs. I feel the Chiefs own the same components with Bowe, Charles, Breaston, McCluster, Moeaki, all pieces to the puzzle and a well-liked coach in Romeo Crennel leading the team.

However, I believe in the end, he'll probably be a Miami Dolphin. That makes the most sense from top to bottom when it comes to not only a mega-star, but an attraction to all of Miami and what it would bring in for that franchise to sell tickets and bring in an enchanted buzz and magic to the organization.

As for a team like the Jets, they just come off as scummy and I don't see a head coach like Rex Ryan having a good relationship with a guy like Peyton Manning. I feel Manning would look to Rex as a toolbag and is the WORST fit for Manning on the board. That locker room is in worse shambles than our economy at the moment and Manning would be walking into a lions-den.

Going to be fun.

Is Miami really that great of a football market? If other Florida sports (e.g., the pathetically attended Heat) are any measure, it'd be nothing special for him to go down there.

They would be if Manning signs a deal. The same situation occurred in Indianapolis. Indy was nowhere near a football town before Manning arrived. He changed the entire culture of Indianapolis since they were nothing but an Indiana basketball hardcore town. Miami is in dire need of Manning not only to the football team, but also the attraction to all of Miami when factoring in ticket sales and turning the franchise around with the buzz on the streets and putting Miami into the limelight in NFL football.

Sorry bud, but I think your theory is flawed. Miami or any other Florida city will NEVER be great pro sports towns.

Peyton would bring in more people. But have you ever seen a Miami Heat game? Better sports towns would never let a seat sit empty with that kind of team and that kind of star power. But Miami is a shit sports town and Peyton or anyone else won't change that.

I beg to differ. I'm not disagreeing that Miami is a bad sports town when it clearly is. I'm talking more of what Peyton would bring to the Miami Dolphins organization and the market that would follow him. More publicity and a very high-in-demand sport like the NFL could transition an interest in the Dolphins and defiantly Miami. The football-crave and the legend of just Peyton Manning's name alone could literally sell out Sun Life Stadium regardless of what an entire different market LeBron James and the Heat bring to the table. A competitive nature goes a long way as well and #18 offers hope to the Dolphins faithful.

[No Surprize]

I think Arizona has the exact architecture and makeup that the Colts had in place around Manning for the better 10+ years of this decade. Arizona runs an eerily similar offense on the fast track and wherever Peyton goes, Wayne goes.

Not only does Arizona have the speed on the fast track and relentless passing game that's so desired and is seriously ONE quarterback away from doing great things, they own, to what I always believed, is the best wide receiver in the business in Larry Fitzgerald. Fitzgerald would play the role of Marvin Harrison in the Cardinals offense (may even do it better, more physical) with Manning and like I said, Wayne would probably be to follow, maybe even Pierre Garcon as well.

Arizona has a very, very loud stadium and a potent offense can certainly help a defense in that kind of environment. Also, Beanie wells reminds me of an Edgerin James type-back so the pieces are in place for the Cards. I have the same exact feeling with the Chiefs. I feel the Chiefs own the same components with Bowe, Charles, Breaston, McCluster, Moeaki, all pieces to the puzzle and a well-liked coach in Romeo Crennel leading the team.

However, I believe in the end, he'll probably be a Miami Dolphin. That makes the most sense from top to bottom when it comes to not only a mega-star, but an attraction to all of Miami and what it would bring in for that franchise to sell tickets and bring in an enchanted buzz and magic to the organization.

As for a team like the Jets, they just come off as scummy and I don't see a head coach like Rex Ryan having a good relationship with a guy like Peyton Manning. I feel Manning would look to Rex as a toolbag and is the WORST fit for Manning on the board. That locker room is in worse shambles than our economy at the moment and Manning would be walking into a lions-den.

Going to be fun.

Is Miami really that great of a football market? If other Florida sports (e.g., the pathetically attended Heat) are any measure, it'd be nothing special for him to go down there.

I'm consistently amazed by the amount of empty seats there are at Dolphins games. Sure there are multitudes of things to do in Miami but that stadium looks barely 3 quarters full at all times.

True. Just like Hurricane games. Most of the REAL floridians moved from that shit hole long ago. You could put that stadium in the middle of a cow pasture in

central Florida, 150 miles from Miami and it would sell out every game. The people who inhabit Miami now have no clue what NFL even stands for. That being

said, I'm a Dolphin fan and always have been. Growing up, they were the only team in Florida and they still are. I hope Manning takes his game elsewhere. I

want the Phin's to build for a future, not a quick fix.

[YoungJRNY]

I think Arizona has the exact architecture and makeup that the Colts had in place around Manning for the better 10+ years of this decade. Arizona runs an eerily similar offense on the fast track and wherever Peyton goes, Wayne goes.

Not only does Arizona have the speed on the fast track and relentless passing game that's so desired and is seriously ONE quarterback away from doing great things, they own, to what I always believed, is the best wide receiver in the business in Larry Fitzgerald. Fitzgerald would play the role of Marvin Harrison in the Cardinals offense (may even do it better, more physical) with Manning and like I said, Wayne would probably be to follow, maybe even Pierre Garcon as well.

Arizona has a very, very loud stadium and a potent offense can certainly help a defense in that kind of environment. Also, Beanie wells reminds me of an Edgerin James type-back so the pieces are in place for the Cards. I have the same exact feeling with the Chiefs. I feel the Chiefs own the same components with Bowe, Charles, Breaston, McCluster, Moeaki, all pieces to the puzzle and a well-liked coach in Romeo Crennel leading the team.

However, I believe in the end, he'll probably be a Miami Dolphin. That makes the most sense from top to bottom when it comes to not only a mega-star, but an attraction to all of Miami and what it would bring in for that franchise to sell tickets and bring in an enchanted buzz and magic to the organization.

As for a team like the Jets, they just come off as scummy and I don't see a head coach like Rex Ryan having a good relationship with a guy like Peyton Manning. I feel Manning would look to Rex as a toolbag and is the WORST fit for Manning on the board. That locker room is in worse shambles than our economy at the moment and Manning would be walking into a lions-den.

Going to be fun.

Is Miami really that great of a football market? If other Florida sports (e.g., the pathetically attended Heat) are any measure, it'd be nothing special for him to go down there.

I'm consistently amazed by the amount of empty seats there are at Dolphins games. Sure there are multitudes of things to do in Miami but that stadium looks barely 3 quarters full at all times.

True. Just like Hurricane games. Most of the REAL floridians moved from that shit hole long ago. You could put that stadium in the middle of a cow pasture in

central Florida, 150 miles from Miami and it would sell out every game. The people who inhabit Miami now have no clue what NFL even stands for. That being

said, I'm a Dolphin fan and always have been. Growing up, they were the only team in Florida and they still are. I hope Manning takes his game elsewhere. I

want the Phin's to build for a future, not a quick fix.

Everybody knows the NFL is a "win now" business and most teams approach it as that fact. If a team is financially ready to make a move for a top free agent (Manning being the biggest FA possibly ever) then owners or GM's wouldn't hesitate a second to snag him if they think they can win the Super Bowl in a years notice with Manning under center.

Teams are constantly building future's and there's no real long term guaranteed success in building for a future. Acquiring Manning is a "win now" attitude and most owners and head coach's are willing to have a 2-3 year window of solid runs at competing for the Super Bowl NOW rather than building a consistent competitive team at best for the next 5 years to come (and that's the position the Colts are now dealt with, which played a huge contribution into releasing the biggest face of the Colts' franchise.)

Besides, the 'Phins have been trying to rebuild since Marino retired & had some nice, contributing athletes come through. They have had some nice pickups over the years, most recently Brandon Marshall and a stud like Jake Long to anchor the offensive line. Now that Reggie Bush showed he can be a positive every-down back (Manning could even get Reggie more involved out of the backfield like Brees did in N.O), Miami is now in need what they've always been in need of: a QB.

[YoungJRNY]

Let it begin. Only hours after Manning tearfully said his goodbye's, he boarded a plane and is reportedly now in Miami.

Manning makes trip to Miami.

Get used to it.

Until quarterback Peyton Manning, perhaps the biggest-name free agent since Reggie White (or ever), signs with a new team, his whereabouts will be scrutinized more closely than Lindsay Lohan’s.

According to NBC Miami, Manning is in Miami. A flight carrying Manning landed at Opa-Locka Executive Airport, and he then got into a van. (We’ve yet to determine whether Brad Childress was driving.)

Manning’s presence in Miami doesn’t mean he’s there to visit with the Dolphins. As so many Dolphins fans point out, Manning has a house there. (Hell, he’s rich enough to have a house in every NFL city.)

But the South Florida frenzy that already has emerged regarding Manning won’t be going anywhere until Manning makes his decision. And until proven otherwise, I’ll continue to believe that Manning will, like Jim Harbaugh and Jeff Fisher before him, know that the key to getting the best offer elsewhere will be to get Dolphins owner Stephen Ross to open his wallet as wide as it will go.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... -to-miami/

Also, reported on WFOR Miami news that it is Breaking News confirmed that Manning is meeting with Dolphins officials as we speak.

[Seven Wishes2]

He's not gonna play for the Tuna Fish. No way.

[mikemarrs]

Of the NFL’s 32 teams, 12 of them contacted Manning’s representatives in the hours after the Colts made his release official, ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports.

Among the teams that have reportedly reached out are the Cardinals, Seahawks, Broncos, Dolphins, Redskins, Titans and Jets. At least five other teams that are keeping their intentions quiet for now have also privately reached out.

[Jonny B]

I would think Manning would want to stay away from the AFC East. Who wants to play against Brady's Bunch or Rex's defense on an underperforming Dolphins team twice a year?

IMO, the best teams would be the Cardinals or Broncos. The Cards already have some firepower on the offense. And while the NFC in general had many teams with powerful offenses, most seemed to be devoid of good defense, with exception of maybe the 49ers. That's a win...easy road to the Super Bowl.....And the Broncos....A solid running game and a strong defense carried a terribly inept Tim Tebow to the playoffs...imagine how much better that team would be if they had a competent QB at the helm?

I could also argue the 49ers. That team is the most solid all-around teams of the NFC teams. With Alex Smith a free agent, the QB position is technically vacant. No controversy in upgrading the position, right?

[mikemarrs]

Peyton Manning said Wednesday that he hadn’t started thinking about his next team before officially being released by the Colts, but a report from Adam Schefter of ESPN makes it seem like someone in his camp has been looking ahead.

Schefter reports that Manning will pick his 2012 team within the next week and that he has a preference to remain in the AFC over heading to the NFC. Both make a lot of sense.

The AFC over NFC preference makes sense from the standpoint of Manning’s familiarity with the conference as well as the fact that there appear to be more teams in the AFC that could thrust themselves into contention by acquiring a healthy and productive Manning. With the 49ers remaining steadfast in their commitment to Alex Smith, the other NFC teams thought to be in the mix would still have to deal with a strong group of contenders returning more or less intact. The AFC has good teams too, of course, but a Manning acquisition might do more to swing the balance of power on that side.


Miami,Kansas City,Denver,NY Jets and Tennessee seem to be the main players in the whole thing from the AFC.

[YoungJRNY]

One interesting note, is that Peyton's chances at playing for an NFC team is slim to none. Reports are saying that there would be no way Peyton would every take the opportunity away from Eli's chances at making it to the Super Bowl whichever year it is.

If you remember, Eli did this same exact thing on draft day in 2004 when he was drafted in the AFC by the San Diego Chargers. He got a deal with the NFC N.Y Football Giants. So that's an interesting tidbit to watch out for.

Also, the Dolphins have the wealthiest owner in all of football. Considering the buzz in Miami already, I'm sure they are willing to pay the most and not flinch. I believe Miami is the very early front runner that makes some sense.

The art of the NFL, is that one DARKHOARSE of a team could come out of FUCKING nowhere and sweep Peyton off his feet. A team like the Vikings come to mind. It's not a done deal with Peyton to Miami, just the most speculation because wherever there's smoke, there's fire so, I wouldn't be surprised if a darkhoarse emerges. Too many possibilities and interest at the moment.

Anybody that is in DIRE need of a quarterback to take them to the next level is a sleeper. I'm sure teams are looking over their shoulder.

I can see about, 15 teams taking a shot at Manning. I like Jacksonville as a darkhoarse. Believe it or not they have an outstanding defense and one of the league's premier backs with MJD. However, their receiving core is kind of lame and I'm not too familiar with their cap situation and what they can offer.

Fact is, I'm not sure if Peyton would go in the same division as the Colts OR to a city like Jacksonville that is practically a dead market when it comes to football and the NFL. They may not be his best suitor.

[mikemarrs]

One interesting note, is that Peyton's chances at playing for an NFC team is slim to none. Reports are saying that there would be no way Peyton would every take the opportunity away from Eli's chances at making it to the Super Bowl whichever year it is.

If you remember, Eli did this same exact thing on draft day in 2004 when he was drafted in the AFC by the San Diego Chargers. He got a deal with the NFC N.Y Football Giants. So that's an interesting tidbit to watch out for.

Also, the Dolphins have the wealthiest owner in all of football. Considering the buzz in Miami already, I'm sure they are willing to pay the most and not flinch. I believe Miami is the very early front runner that makes some sense.

The art of the NFL, is that one DARKHOARSE of a team could come out of FUCKING nowhere and sweep Peyton off his feet. A team like the Vikings come to mind. It's not a done deal with Peyton to Miami, just the most speculation because wherever there's smoke, there's fire so, I wouldn't be surprised if a darkhoarse emerges. Too many possibilities and interest at the moment.

Anybody that is in DIRE need of a quarterback to take them to the next level is a sleeper. I'm sure teams are looking over their shoulder.

I can see about, 15 teams taking a shot at Manning. I like Jacksonville as a darkhoarse. Believe it or not they have an outstanding defense and one of the league's premier backs with MJD. However, their receiving core is kind of lame and I'm not too familiar with their cap situation and what they can offer.

Fact is, I'm not sure if Peyton would go in the same division as the Colts OR to a city like Jacksonville that is practically a dead market when it comes to football and the NFL. They may not be his best suitor.

Denver for some reason seems to be the one i think he might go for besides Miami.They have some talent at receiver there in Denver along with a good defense.

[marco17]

I think Arizona has the exact architecture and makeup that the Colts had in place around Manning for the better 10+ years of this decade. Arizona runs an eerily similar offense on the fast track and wherever Peyton goes, Wayne goes.

Not only does Arizona have the speed on the fast track and relentless passing game that's so desired and is seriously ONE quarterback away from doing great things, they own, to what I always believed, is the best wide receiver in the business in Larry Fitzgerald. Fitzgerald would play the role of Marvin Harrison in the Cardinals offense (may even do it better, more physical) with Manning and like I said, Wayne would probably be to follow, maybe even Pierre Garcon as well.

Arizona has a very, very loud stadium and a potent offense can certainly help a defense in that kind of environment. Also, Beanie wells reminds me of an Edgerin James type-back so the pieces are in place for the Cards. I have the same exact feeling with the Chiefs. I feel the Chiefs own the same components with Bowe, Charles, Breaston, McCluster, Moeaki, all pieces to the puzzle and a well-liked coach in Romeo Crennel leading the team.

However, I believe in the end, he'll probably be a Miami Dolphin. That makes the most sense from top to bottom when it comes to not only a mega-star, but an attraction to all of Miami and what it would bring in for that franchise to sell tickets and bring in an enchanted buzz and magic to the organization.

As for a team like the Jets, they just come off as scummy and I don't see a head coach like Rex Ryan having a good relationship with a guy like Peyton Manning. I feel Manning would look to Rex as a toolbag and is the WORST fit for Manning on the board. That locker room is in worse shambles than our economy at the moment and Manning would be walking into a lions-den.

Going to be fun.

Is Miami really that great of a football market? If other Florida sports (e.g., the pathetically attended Heat) are any measure, it'd be nothing special for him to go down there.

They would be if Manning signs a deal. The same situation occurred in Indianapolis. Indy was nowhere near a football town before Manning arrived. He changed the entire culture of Indianapolis since they were nothing but an Indiana basketball hardcore town. Miami is in dire need of Manning not only to the football team, but also the attraction to all of Miami when factoring in ticket sales and turning the franchise around with the buzz on the streets and putting Miami into the limelight in NFL football.

Sorry bud, but I think your theory is flawed. Miami or any other Florida city will NEVER be great pro sports towns.

Peyton would bring in more people. But have you ever seen a Miami Heat game? Better sports towns would never let a seat sit empty with that kind of team and that kind of star power. But Miami is a shit sports town and Peyton or anyone else won't change that.

I beg to differ. I'm not disagreeing that Miami is a bad sports town when it clearly is. I'm talking more of what Peyton would bring to the Miami Dolphins organization and the market that would follow him. More publicity and a very high-in-demand sport like the NFL could transition an interest in the Dolphins and defiantly Miami. The football-crave and the legend of just Peyton Manning's name alone could literally sell out Sun Life Stadium regardless of what an entire different market LeBron James and the Heat bring to the table. A competitive nature goes a long way as well and #18 offers hope to the Dolphins faithful.

Guys I agree with you both of you to a degree. Miami hasn't of late been great for any sports franchise. That being said, the Dolphins have now sat back a couple years and watched the Heat assemble the team they have, and while we've seen nothing more than a name change and a hideous new logo, the Marlins are trying to reinvent themselves this year. If the Dolphins want to stay relevent, if nothing more from an entertainment/attraction perspective, why would you not want to bust your ass bringing one of highest profile free agents all time to your city.

[Enigma869]

I see Peyton heading to Miami and taking Reggie Wayne with him. The NFL will eat up a twice a year matchup between Peyton and Brady. Hell, the Colts were on their schedule EVERY year, in spite of not being a divisional team.

[YoungJRNY]

It doesn't get NASTIER than that in the world of sports. Hell, I'd even be giddy. Whose not to say that Peyton forgot all those times where Brady went through him to get a shot at the title? Too many juicy storyline's there. That would be off the HOOK. Possibly the two greatest QB's not only in this decade alone, but EVER squaring off twice a year. Sign me up.

[mikemarrs]

The Washington Post reported Wednesday that the Redskins would make an “aggressive effort” to sign free agent quarterback Peyton Manning. The feeling would have to be mutual for Manning to actually become a Redskin, of course.

According to Chris Russell of ESPN 980 Washington, it isn’t.

Russell appeared on SportsCenter Thursday and, citing multiple sources, reported that Manning doesn’t want to play in the nation’s capital and has already informed the team.

“A couple of different sources inside the organization have told me that Manning’s camp made it pretty clear to Redskins officials he doesn’t want to come here,” said Russell. “… There’s lots of reasons for that. His brother Eli, the colder weather, the whole situation down in Miami and so on and so forth. But unless that changes — and I’m taking my sources at their word — I don’t think Manning’s coming here to D.C.”

This is the first formal report that Manning doesn’t want to play for the Skins, though that reality has been commonly speculated for the past several weeks.

[Yoda]

The Washington Post reported Wednesday that the Redskins would make an “aggressive effort” to sign free agent quarterback Peyton Manning. The feeling would have to be mutual for Manning to actually become a Redskin, of course.

According to Chris Russell of ESPN 980 Washington, it isn’t.

Russell appeared on SportsCenter Thursday and, citing multiple sources, reported that Manning doesn’t want to play in the nation’s capital and has already informed the team.

“A couple of different sources inside the organization have told me that Manning’s camp made it pretty clear to Redskins officials he doesn’t want to come here,” said Russell. “… There’s lots of reasons for that. His brother Eli, the colder weather, the whole situation down in Miami and so on and so forth. But unless that changes — and I’m taking my sources at their word — I don’t think Manning’s coming here to D.C.”

This is the first formal report that Manning doesn’t want to play for the Skins, though that reality has been commonly speculated for the past several weeks.

Well, as a Redskins fan, I would love to see Peyton in the burgundy and gold this season. However, I do think Miami is in the driver's seat. I have also read reports that say otherwise from what Russell is saying. It mostly comes down to who offers him the best deal. From what I have heard, the Redskins basically have a take it or leave set deal for Manning, which means no negotiating. I believe the 'skins would rather set their sites on RGIII anyway.

[YoungJRNY]

I believe when the dust settles, it'll come down to two teams: Miami and Kansas City.