No, I can't accept it. Because of the coincidence of a shared maternal name, Batman goes from vowing to destroy Superman to informing Martha "I’m a friend of your son." The change of heart, is just not credible in the slightest. The Nolan films knew how to walk the line between character introspection and crowd-pleaser. The “Martha” moment did not peel back the layers of Bruce’s psyche. It was just a lazy and groan-worthy resolution to a conflict the movie didn’t pull-off very convincingly.
Fair enough, TNC. It was one of the highlights of the film for me. Being a comic book fan and seeing the mythology over and over again, I thought it was a very fair and simple way to bring the hero's together by what they both had in common in a movie that had dark undertones and themes that asked biblical and modern world questions. The simplistic and comic book nature of it was a relief and heart tugger for me and my audiences seem to react nicely to it every time. But, I see where you're coming from.
Remind me, what’s the status of the Man of Steel solo sequel again?
The ending told me everything I needed to know. MoS-JLP1, like Chris Terrio said, is one saga. After JLP1, the new phase in this universe will begin. BvS and the future of the Justice League stories, if you paid attention, focus's on Superman at the core. Even when Supes didn't have screen time, his presence was felt everywhere. Snyder already touched upon this. Though Bruce Wayne assembles the Justice League, it's Superman's absence that is the missing link. JLP1 will focus on bringing him back.
If anything, I’ve been consistently proven right.
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Watching the movie, I think it’s pretty obvious that the initial reports about Warner Bros. requesting additional Batman footage were also true. Here’s a movie where Superman battles Doomsday and the only real positive feedback is about Batfleck.
That's not true. The entire cast is safe in future films. Cavill, Affleck and Gadot did phenomenal. If there's anything even the worst review took from BvS, was the fantastic acting across the board. If anything, WB will slowly TONALLY move away from the moodiness, but Snyder already said that's natural with JL anyhow. The character arcs, even for Batman, is already being provin' to be a more optimistic view within' his mindset. Superman changed him. Made him believe there could be good in this world. I think the tone in MoS and BvS is appropriate. The stories were a continuation and one in the same. JLP1 closes this saga, so the next step is to gradually build to a world who will accept superhero's.
We'll get a Batman solo after JLP1 and a Superman solo before JLP2 or immediately after to take us into the next phase. Mark the words.
No. The Usual Suspects is complicated. BvsS is borderline incoherent. Earlier drafts of the script reportedly had Lex being manipulated by Braniac. I would not be surprised if deleted scenes added to the DVD back that up. As it stands now, Snidely Whiplash was a better written villain.
Lets wait until the Ultimate Director's cut of BvS comes out. I'm hearing from critics who didn't like BvS that it's better; ala Watchmen.
In other words, asking for a movie to make sense is too much to ask. All movies, super hero films especially, require suspension of disbelief. No argument there. But you shouldn’t be forced to connect the dots like a Telenovela missing subtitles. And again, I don’t believe Snyder was challenging his audience to draw their own conclusions. Nothing in his repertoire would indicate that. The film plays like large chunks of footage have been torn out. It's also worth noting that the majority of critics who panned BvsS gave positive reviews to the Nolan entries. There's no grand anti-DC conspiracy at play here. It's just a really crappy movie.
Fair enough. A good barometer for these types of movies for me is how my wife reacts to it. Most of these movies, ESPECIALLY superhero movies, she just doesn't get and most of the comic book stuff flies way over her head. I had to explain many movies to her a few times before she got the concept. She loved Batman V Superman and followed it nicely. There were actually some parts that I missed the first time that she pointed out to me. I was shocked she understood and how easily she followed. People can speak for themselves, but givin' my wife's personality and her understanding, the movie making no sense at all is greatly exaggerated.
