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Behshad wrote:BobbyinTN wrote:
WOW! Pot, this is kettle.
One is against the law because to be considered an adult you have to be 18 years old. Any consenting adult should have the right to marry another consenting adult and no one else should be involved. It's simply no one else's business.
I bet you're one of those folks who call Obama a "socialist" and yet you want the government to tell people how to live and who to love. LMAO!!
Do you have to fuck up every quote ?
The law?? Since when do you care about the law.... Last I checked THE LAW said NO to gay people getting married (in 45 states), but you dont wanna follow that law, since its not good enough for you. If gay people did care about the law, they wouldve followed the law and didnt keep pushing to CHANGE the law, left and right to suit them.
Behshad wrote:BobbyinTN wrote:Behshad wrote:BobbyinTN wrote:
You're right Jana. Those who want to blame the intolerance and bigotry they feel on the subject they feel them about are simply too dumb to understand anything. Anyone who claims that being gay is wrong and then perpetuates stereotypes and bashes gays is simply creating the problem they claim to be fighting.
If youre gay, it doesnt matter who thinks its right or wrong,,, its your life and you live it the way YOU please..... and if you have a gay partner, then again its your lives and you live it the way you enjoy it to its fullest. But you can not get a child involved not knowing how this will in the long run affect the kid's life.
Strawman. Having two moms or two dads or one of each has nothing to do with the "long run", but how the child is raised. If bigots stopped their bullshit there'd be no problems. Maybe that's a better way to remedy the situation than trying to tell people who they can marry and if they can raise children.
It sure does. A kid getting teased daily by friends at school WILL totally damage that kids mental stability. Having friends over and them asking "um, where is your mom".... " George is my mom",,,, yep, that wont get the kids fucked up,,,,
BobbyinTN wrote:Behshad wrote:BobbyinTN wrote:
WOW! Pot, this is kettle.
One is against the law because to be considered an adult you have to be 18 years old. Any consenting adult should have the right to marry another consenting adult and no one else should be involved. It's simply no one else's business.
I bet you're one of those folks who call Obama a "socialist" and yet you want the government to tell people how to live and who to love. LMAO!!
Do you have to fuck up every quote ?
The law?? Since when do you care about the law.... Last I checked THE LAW said NO to gay people getting married (in 45 states), but you dont wanna follow that law, since its not good enough for you. If gay people did care about the law, they wouldve followed the law and didnt keep pushing to CHANGE the law, left and right to suit them.
Wonder how many people said that exact same thing about Black people?
Behshad wrote:Lets not get off track here. I dont care who you sleep with or marry. Im simply against getting a kid involved into the picture.
Stability is the key to raising an emotionally and mentally healthy child,,,,,,unmarried and homosexual partners simply cannot provide the stability that married heterosexual couples can give.Simple as that ! Children need a role model, both male and female. Every child has the right to both a mother and a father,.,,,, Social science combined with common sense and observation clearly proves that children have the best chance to grow up in married, mother & father-based families. I dont agree with it when you put " proving your cultural statement and your rights" above whats best for the kid.
BobbyinTN wrote:Behshad wrote:BobbyinTN wrote:Behshad wrote:BobbyinTN wrote:
You're right Jana. Those who want to blame the intolerance and bigotry they feel on the subject they feel them about are simply too dumb to understand anything. Anyone who claims that being gay is wrong and then perpetuates stereotypes and bashes gays is simply creating the problem they claim to be fighting.
If youre gay, it doesnt matter who thinks its right or wrong,,, its your life and you live it the way YOU please..... and if you have a gay partner, then again its your lives and you live it the way you enjoy it to its fullest. But you can not get a child involved not knowing how this will in the long run affect the kid's life.
Strawman. Having two moms or two dads or one of each has nothing to do with the "long run", but how the child is raised. If bigots stopped their bullshit there'd be no problems. Maybe that's a better way to remedy the situation than trying to tell people who they can marry and if they can raise children.
It sure does. A kid getting teased daily by friends at school WILL totally damage that kids mental stability. Having friends over and them asking "um, where is your mom".... " George is my mom",,,, yep, that wont get the kids fucked up,,,,
You're defending a mentality that you help create. If there is no stigma, there is no problem.
Behshad wrote:BobbyinTN wrote:Behshad wrote:BobbyinTN wrote:
WOW! Pot, this is kettle.
One is against the law because to be considered an adult you have to be 18 years old. Any consenting adult should have the right to marry another consenting adult and no one else should be involved. It's simply no one else's business.
I bet you're one of those folks who call Obama a "socialist" and yet you want the government to tell people how to live and who to love. LMAO!!
Do you have to fuck up every quote ?
The law?? Since when do you care about the law.... Last I checked THE LAW said NO to gay people getting married (in 45 states), but you dont wanna follow that law, since its not good enough for you. If gay people did care about the law, they wouldve followed the law and didnt keep pushing to CHANGE the law, left and right to suit them.
Wonder how many people said that exact same thing about Black people?
Wonder how far the homosexuals will push it. If EVERY single state gives them the same rights so they can get married, would it be enough ? No! Next they wanna push the law further and have the rights to adopt kids.
Behshad wrote:
Im defending a child's well being. If you wanna stick your head in the sand and say that people wont judge the kid and won't tease and torture the kid, then youre a permanent resident of an Egyptian river
BobbyinTN wrote:Behshad wrote:Lets not get off track here. I dont care who you sleep with or marry. Im simply against getting a kid involved into the picture.
Stability is the key to raising an emotionally and mentally healthy child,,,,,,unmarried and homosexual partners simply cannot provide the stability that married heterosexual couples can give.Simple as that ! Children need a role model, both male and female. Every child has the right to both a mother and a father,.,,,, Social science combined with common sense and observation clearly proves that children have the best chance to grow up in married, mother & father-based families. I dont agree with it when you put " proving your cultural statement and your rights" above whats best for the kid.
That's an unproveable statement and there's no science to back it up and no cultural studies either. If a "mother and father" are the best scenarios, why do kids from families with a mother and father end up in jail, on the wrong side of the law, in trouble.
You're opinions are based on your feelings, not facts.
BobbyinTN wrote:Behshad wrote:
Im defending a child's well being. If you wanna stick your head in the sand and say that people wont judge the kid and won't tease and torture the kid, then youre a permanent resident of an Egyptian river
You fix the problem by fixing the hatred and bigotry, not by allowing it and accepting it.
Fat kids are made fun of, kids with different religions are made fun of, kids with DIFFERENCE are made fun of. If parents teach their kids that bullying and ridiculing are wrong, there is no longer a problem. What you're saying is you want anyone you oppose or don't "approve" of to adhere to your rules and way of life. Everyone else is wrong, and you're right. Is that it?
Behshad wrote:So youre gonna guarantee that every kid raised by homosexual parent will end up as a great citizen without any criminal tendencies?
Didnt think so .
My opinions are based on MY FEELINGS which happen to represent the feelings of OUR SOCIETY right now.
BobbyinTN wrote:Behshad wrote:BobbyinTN wrote:Behshad wrote:BobbyinTN wrote:
WOW! Pot, this is kettle.
One is against the law because to be considered an adult you have to be 18 years old. Any consenting adult should have the right to marry another consenting adult and no one else should be involved. It's simply no one else's business.
I bet you're one of those folks who call Obama a "socialist" and yet you want the government to tell people how to live and who to love. LMAO!!
Do you have to fuck up every quote ?
The law?? Since when do you care about the law.... Last I checked THE LAW said NO to gay people getting married (in 45 states), but you dont wanna follow that law, since its not good enough for you. If gay people did care about the law, they wouldve followed the law and didnt keep pushing to CHANGE the law, left and right to suit them.
Wonder how many people said that exact same thing about Black people?
Wonder how far the homosexuals will push it. If EVERY single state gives them the same rights so they can get married, would it be enough ? No! Next they wanna push the law further and have the rights to adopt kids.
That's as tired and stupid as the "next they'll want to marry goats" argument. A married gay couple should have every right a married heterosexual couple has, otherwise it's discrimination.
BobbyinTN wrote:Behshad wrote:So youre gonna guarantee that every kid raised by homosexual parent will end up as a great citizen without any criminal tendencies?
Didnt think so .
My opinions are based on MY FEELINGS which happen to represent the feelings of OUR SOCIETY right now.
Are you gonna guarantee that every kid raised by a mother and a father are gonna do the same?
Once our "society" thought slavery was fine and dandy, and that women were subservient and that races shouldn't mix and even longer ago, "society" thought that if a woman showed her ankles it was inappropriate and even longer ago than that "society" thought a king had to rule the country and that king was appointed by God.
Society ain't always right.
Behshad wrote:
Society aint always right, but any of your examples above, didnt involve protection or damaging an innocent childs future.
Again, you have the rights to be as gay as you wanna be, but you shouldnt raise a child in that enviroment cause thats as unhealthy for a child as a kid being raised by alcoholic parents.
Just cause there are mother&father-based families who fuck up the child, that shouldnt justify it to give the homesexuals to do the same.
Behshad wrote:BobbyinTN wrote:Behshad wrote:BobbyinTN wrote:
WOW! Pot, this is kettle.
One is against the law because to be considered an adult you have to be 18 years old. Any consenting adult should have the right to marry another consenting adult and no one else should be involved. It's simply no one else's business.
I bet you're one of those folks who call Obama a "socialist" and yet you want the government to tell people how to live and who to love. LMAO!!
Do you have to fuck up every quote ?
The law?? Since when do you care about the law.... Last I checked THE LAW said NO to gay people getting married (in 45 states), but you dont wanna follow that law, since its not good enough for you. If gay people did care about the law, they wouldve followed the law and didnt keep pushing to CHANGE the law, left and right to suit them.
Wonder how many people said that exact same thing about Black people?
Wonder how far the homosexuals will push it. If EVERY single state gives them the same rights so they can get married, would it be enough ? No! Next they wanna push the law further and have the rights to adopt kids.
BobbyinTN wrote:Behshad wrote:
Society aint always right, but any of your examples above, didnt involve protection or damaging an innocent childs future.
Again, you have the rights to be as gay as you wanna be, but you shouldnt raise a child in that enviroment cause thats as unhealthy for a child as a kid being raised by alcoholic parents.
Just cause there are mother&father-based families who fuck up the child, that shouldnt justify it to give the homesexuals to do the same.
Yes, people opposed to races mixing used the same excuses, "what about the children?".
Comparing homosexuals to alcoholics just finished this conversation with you. You're a bigot and you simply do not get to decide who can raise kids and who can't. There's nothing you can do but accept the fact that in the next few years, every state will allow gay marriage and there will be no laws against gay couples adopting children.
Heterosexuals produce the most fucked up children. Maybe it's them who should not have or raise children.
Jana wrote:Behshad wrote:BobbyinTN wrote:Behshad wrote:BobbyinTN wrote:
WOW! Pot, this is kettle.
One is against the law because to be considered an adult you have to be 18 years old. Any consenting adult should have the right to marry another consenting adult and no one else should be involved. It's simply no one else's business.
I bet you're one of those folks who call Obama a "socialist" and yet you want the government to tell people how to live and who to love. LMAO!!
Do you have to fuck up every quote ?
The law?? Since when do you care about the law.... Last I checked THE LAW said NO to gay people getting married (in 45 states), but you dont wanna follow that law, since its not good enough for you. If gay people did care about the law, they wouldve followed the law and didnt keep pushing to CHANGE the law, left and right to suit them.
Wonder how many people said that exact same thing about Black people?
Wonder how far the homosexuals will push it. If EVERY single state gives them the same rights so they can get married, would it be enough ? No! Next they wanna push the law further and have the rights to adopt kids.
Are you living in the dark ages? Homosexuals are adopting foster children already in many states and encouraged to do so. Watch the video I posted of the brother and sister ADOPTED out of the foster care system to a gay male couple. And some states like Florida that don't allow adoption allow them to be their foster parents.
BobbyinTN wrote:Behshad wrote:
Im defending a child's well being. If you wanna stick your head in the sand and say that people wont judge the kid and won't tease and torture the kid, then youre a permanent resident of an Egyptian river
You fix the problem by fixing the hatred and bigotry, not by allowing it and accepting it.
Fat kids are made fun of, kids with different religions are made fun of, kids with DIFFERENCE are made fun of. If parents teach their kids that bullying and ridiculing are wrong, there is no longer a problem. What you're saying is you want anyone you oppose or don't "approve" of to adhere to your rules and way of life. Everyone else is wrong, and you're right. Is that it?
BobbyinTN wrote:StocktontoMalone wrote:It's called 'Cultural Relativism', read up on it.....
That's not an excuse not to evolve and think beyond the limits of those who have the least intelligence in our society.
The Sushi Hunter wrote:BobbyinTN wrote:Behshad wrote:
Im defending a child's well being. If you wanna stick your head in the sand and say that people wont judge the kid and won't tease and torture the kid, then youre a permanent resident of an Egyptian river
You fix the problem by fixing the hatred and bigotry, not by allowing it and accepting it.
Fat kids are made fun of, kids with different religions are made fun of, kids with DIFFERENCE are made fun of. If parents teach their kids that bullying and ridiculing are wrong, there is no longer a problem. What you're saying is you want anyone you oppose or don't "approve" of to adhere to your rules and way of life. Everyone else is wrong, and you're right. Is that it?
There you go again with the hatred and bigotry game BinT. Just because it's our opinion that it's not a natural healthy environment for kids to grow up in doesn't mean our opinion is based on hatred and bigotry. Now if there were suggestions that gays and lesbians needed to be removed, well then you've have yourself the little bullshit argument you've been so hungry to discuss.
StocktontoMalone wrote:BobbyinTN wrote:StocktontoMalone wrote:It's called 'Cultural Relativism', read up on it.....
That's not an excuse not to evolve and think beyond the limits of those who have the least intelligence in our society.
Oh, I see...so in the 1800s when common citizens practiced vigilante justice, and you could shoot a man for stealing a horse----those were the LEAST intelligent people?
Behshad wrote:Jana wrote:Behshad wrote:BobbyinTN wrote:Behshad wrote:BobbyinTN wrote:
WOW! Pot, this is kettle.
One is against the law because to be considered an adult you have to be 18 years old. Any consenting adult should have the right to marry another consenting adult and no one else should be involved. It's simply no one else's business.
I bet you're one of those folks who call Obama a "socialist" and yet you want the government to tell people how to live and who to love. LMAO!!
Do you have to fuck up every quote ?
The law?? Since when do you care about the law.... Last I checked THE LAW said NO to gay people getting married (in 45 states), but you dont wanna follow that law, since its not good enough for you. If gay people did care about the law, they wouldve followed the law and didnt keep pushing to CHANGE the law, left and right to suit them.
Wonder how many people said that exact same thing about Black people?
Wonder how far the homosexuals will push it. If EVERY single state gives them the same rights so they can get married, would it be enough ? No! Next they wanna push the law further and have the rights to adopt kids.
Are you living in the dark ages? Homosexuals are adopting foster children already in many states and encouraged to do so. Watch the video I posted of the brother and sister ADOPTED out of the foster care system to a gay male couple. And some states like Florida that don't allow adoption allow them to be their foster parents.
I didnt say there arent ANY gay people adopting and raising kids. I said I dont agree with it, and MOST states dont agree with it either. I guess Reading vs Comprehending is 2 different things .
Plus YOU wouldnt want to be raised by 2 dads, so why would you push the issue and would think its a good thing for other kids !?
Jana wrote:Behshad wrote:Jana wrote:Behshad wrote:BobbyinTN wrote:Behshad wrote:BobbyinTN wrote:
WOW! Pot, this is kettle.
One is against the law because to be considered an adult you have to be 18 years old. Any consenting adult should have the right to marry another consenting adult and no one else should be involved. It's simply no one else's business.
I bet you're one of those folks who call Obama a "socialist" and yet you want the government to tell people how to live and who to love. LMAO!!
Do you have to fuck up every quote ?
The law?? Since when do you care about the law.... Last I checked THE LAW said NO to gay people getting married (in 45 states), but you dont wanna follow that law, since its not good enough for you. If gay people did care about the law, they wouldve followed the law and didnt keep pushing to CHANGE the law, left and right to suit them.
Wonder how many people said that exact same thing about Black people?
Wonder how far the homosexuals will push it. If EVERY single state gives them the same rights so they can get married, would it be enough ? No! Next they wanna push the law further and have the rights to adopt kids.
Are you living in the dark ages? Homosexuals are adopting foster children already in many states and encouraged to do so. Watch the video I posted of the brother and sister ADOPTED out of the foster care system to a gay male couple. And some states like Florida that don't allow adoption allow them to be their foster parents.
I didnt say there arent ANY gay people adopting and raising kids. I said I dont agree with it, and MOST states dont agree with it either. I guess Reading vs Comprehending is 2 different things .
Plus YOU wouldnt want to be raised by 2 dads, so why would you push the issue and would think its a good thing for other kids !?
I said back when I was growing up, I wouldn't. In a perfect world all kids would have a mom and dad who are great people and great parents. Not so much the case. I agree with Deb or Sarah, can't remember who said it, if they're loving, caring, involved parents and it's more accepted, fine, and especially the ones who are adopting out of the foster care system, so many children that aren't babies (or HIV positive) that heteros don't seem to want and are lost kids, more power to them and God bless you.
Behshad wrote:Jana wrote:Behshad wrote:Jana wrote:Behshad wrote:BobbyinTN wrote:Behshad wrote:BobbyinTN wrote:
WOW! Pot, this is kettle.
One is against the law because to be considered an adult you have to be 18 years old. Any consenting adult should have the right to marry another consenting adult and no one else should be involved. It's simply no one else's business.
I bet you're one of those folks who call Obama a "socialist" and yet you want the government to tell people how to live and who to love. LMAO!!
Do you have to fuck up every quote ?
The law?? Since when do you care about the law.... Last I checked THE LAW said NO to gay people getting married (in 45 states), but you dont wanna follow that law, since its not good enough for you. If gay people did care about the law, they wouldve followed the law and didnt keep pushing to CHANGE the law, left and right to suit them.
Wonder how many people said that exact same thing about Black people?
Wonder how far the homosexuals will push it. If EVERY single state gives them the same rights so they can get married, would it be enough ? No! Next they wanna push the law further and have the rights to adopt kids.
Are you living in the dark ages? Homosexuals are adopting foster children already in many states and encouraged to do so. Watch the video I posted of the brother and sister ADOPTED out of the foster care system to a gay male couple. And some states like Florida that don't allow adoption allow them to be their foster parents.
I didnt say there arent ANY gay people adopting and raising kids. I said I dont agree with it, and MOST states dont agree with it either. I guess Reading vs Comprehending is 2 different things .
Plus YOU wouldnt want to be raised by 2 dads, so why would you push the issue and would think its a good thing for other kids !?
I said back when I was growing up, I wouldn't. In a perfect world all kids would have a mom and dad who are great people and great parents. Not so much the case. I agree with Deb or Sarah, can't remember who said it, if they're loving, caring, involved parents and it's more accepted, fine, and especially the ones who are adopting out of the foster care system, so many children that aren't babies (or HIV positive) that heteros don't seem to want and are lost kids, more power to them and God bless you.
Again, I never questioned them being BAD PARENTS, not did I say they would not be loving and caring parents. My main point is how the kid will be treated by others.
Behshad wrote:Halleluja, praise the Gaylord and lets all men start suckin cock and women start eating pussy as Bobby has shown us the light at the end of dark tunnel we've lived in ....![]()
bluejeangirl76 wrote:Behshad wrote:Halleluja, praise the Gaylord and lets all men start suckin cock and women start eating pussy as Bobby has shown us the light at the end of dark tunnel we've lived in ....![]()
Well... I support gay rights, but I'm not gonna go that far. 'Jayjay ain't on my menu.
Behshad wrote:bluejeangirl76 wrote:Behshad wrote:Halleluja, praise the Gaylord and lets all men start suckin cock and women start eating pussy as Bobby has shown us the light at the end of dark tunnel we've lived in ....![]()
Well... I support gay rights, but I'm not gonna go that far. 'Jayjay ain't on my menu.
How dare you have an opinion like that !?
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