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by RedWingFan » Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:04 am
BobbyinTN wrote:Sex is natural, sex is good
Not everybody does it
But everybody should
If it's "abnormal" for you, don't do it, but please stop wasting your time worrying about what other people do in the privacy of their own homes.
Seven Wishes wrote:"Abysmal? He's the most proactive President since Clinton, and he's bringing much-needed change for the better to a nation that has been tyrannized by the worst President since Hoover."- 7 Wishes on Pres. Obama
by donnaplease » Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:05 am
Rick wrote:
I'm not sure Don meant retardation as much as birth defect. There are a lot of people that think it IS a birth defect, in that they're a man born in a woman's body and vice-versa.
I can understand how passionate you must feel about this issue even though I have no clue what you've gone through as a gay man. A question for you Bobby... other than express your views here, what have you done to make your wishes known and fight for the right to marry?
by Saint John » Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:05 am
Angel wrote:don't EVER call me "notveryprettyface" again.
by Behshad » Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:06 am
RedWingFan wrote:BobbyinTN wrote:Sex is natural, sex is good
Not everybody does it
But everybody should
If it's "abnormal" for you, don't do it, but please stop wasting your time worrying about what other people do in the privacy of their own homes.
Funny you're quoting lyrics from a queer predator busted in PUBLIC restrooms!!!!
by Saint John » Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:09 am
Angel wrote:So calling someone "notveryprettyface" and "fagsack" is now considered "intellectual?"
by conversationpc » Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:10 am
by Behshad » Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:14 am
conversationpc wrote:The discussion here was fairly decent up until this last page. Bobby, I still think you're harboring hate and bigotry. Dan, the "notveryprettyface" and "fagsack" comments are out of line as well. Come on, folks. Let's save the juvenile behavior for bashing politicians...especially the ones on the lib side.
by Angel » Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:15 am
Behshad wrote:conversationpc wrote:The discussion here was fairly decent up until this last page. Bobby, I still think you're harboring hate and bigotry. Dan, the "notveryprettyface" and "fagsack" comments are out of line as well. Come on, folks. Let's save the juvenile behavior for bashing politicians...especially the ones on the lib side.
I agree. Although I think maybe they're trying to use humor to fight the tension ?!
by BobbyinTN » Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:16 am
Saint John wrote:BobbyinTN wrote:[How the fuck can homosexuality put an end to the human race? Are you suddenly gonna turn gay and stop having sex with women because homosexuals have equal rights.
Why don’t you think before you type?
I brought up an ethics scenario ... one that you obviously can't respond to intellectually. It's deontilogical in nature and involves a "maxim" or principle. I suggest Kant, if you want to educate yourself on the subject. Tootaloo, fagsack.
by RedWingFan » Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:17 am
bluejeangirl76 wrote:Our church is supposed to be separate from our government, is it not? So we're enacting law based on what the bible says?
Seven Wishes wrote:"Abysmal? He's the most proactive President since Clinton, and he's bringing much-needed change for the better to a nation that has been tyrannized by the worst President since Hoover."- 7 Wishes on Pres. Obama
by S2M » Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:18 am
Angel wrote:Behshad wrote:conversationpc wrote:The discussion here was fairly decent up until this last page. Bobby, I still think you're harboring hate and bigotry. Dan, the "notveryprettyface" and "fagsack" comments are out of line as well. Come on, folks. Let's save the juvenile behavior for bashing politicians...especially the ones on the lib side.
I agree. Although I think maybe they're trying to use humor to fight the tension ?!
I don't find being called a "notveryprettyface" humorous, in the least!
by Saint John » Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:18 am
BobbyinTN wrote:Saint John wrote:BobbyinTN wrote:[How the fuck can homosexuality put an end to the human race? Are you suddenly gonna turn gay and stop having sex with women because homosexuals have equal rights.
Why don’t you think before you type?
I brought up an ethics scenario ... one that you obviously can't respond to intellectually. It's deontilogical in nature and involves a "maxim" or principle. I suggest Kant, if you want to educate yourself on the subject. Tootaloo, fagsack.
You can suck my fagsack you pseudo-intellectual piece of white trash.
by Behshad » Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:19 am
Angel wrote:Behshad wrote:conversationpc wrote:The discussion here was fairly decent up until this last page. Bobby, I still think you're harboring hate and bigotry. Dan, the "notveryprettyface" and "fagsack" comments are out of line as well. Come on, folks. Let's save the juvenile behavior for bashing politicians...especially the ones on the lib side.
I agree. Although I think maybe they're trying to use humor to fight the tension ?!
I don't find being called a "notveryprettyface" humorous, in the least!
by BobbyinTN » Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:20 am
donnaplease wrote:Rick wrote:
I'm not sure Don meant retardation as much as birth defect. There are a lot of people that think it IS a birth defect, in that they're a man born in a woman's body and vice-versa.
I don't like to consider it that way, but I guess if you want to say that homosexuals are 'born that way', in a sense it could be considered a birth defect. If our natural instinct is to have sexual relations in order to procreate and homosexuals are not physically capable of doing that, then I suppose that is a valid argument. If I'm not mistaken, there is a subset of the homosexual population (transgender) that thinks they're one gender born inside the body of the other, but that's not exclusive to all gay/lesbian people. However, there are some homosexuals who have admitted to "turning" that way. In most of the experiences I've known about, it was usually women who were sexually abused as young girls.
Bobby, you said "this isn't Mayberry" or something of that nature. However, there are STILL a lot of Mayberry's out there. I live in a somewhat rural, conservative area. We have very few openly homosexuals in this area. You can deny these folks their feelings/morals/values, but don't think they don't exist. People are much more accepting of 'alternative' lifestyles now than they were 20 years ago, but the reality of it is that our society isn't "there" yet. It may or may not happen in our lifetime. I'm not trying to discount your feelings, but when I see you repeatedly call others' comments "hyperbole" it makes me wonder if you're discounting theirs...
by conversationpc » Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:20 am
RedWingFan wrote:bluejeangirl76 wrote:Our church is supposed to be separate from our government, is it not? So we're enacting law based on what the bible says?
Actually, no it's not. Nowhere in our Constitution are the words "separation of Church and State". Our founders never put that in there. Jefferson wrote about it in a PRIVATE letter to the Danbury Baptist Association in 1802 to answer a letter from them written in October 1801.
I know that won't matter to you, people can just go on pretending that it's there written in invisible ink right next to the invisible "right to privacy" invented to impose a right to abortion.
by Behshad » Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:21 am
BobbyinTN wrote:Saint John wrote:BobbyinTN wrote:[How the fuck can homosexuality put an end to the human race? Are you suddenly gonna turn gay and stop having sex with women because homosexuals have equal rights.
Why don’t you think before you type?
I brought up an ethics scenario ... one that you obviously can't respond to intellectually. It's deontilogical in nature and involves a "maxim" or principle. I suggest Kant, if you want to educate yourself on the subject. Tootaloo, fagsack.
You can suck my fagsack you pseudo-intellectual piece of white trash.
by Angel » Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:21 am
S2M wrote:Angel wrote:Behshad wrote:conversationpc wrote:The discussion here was fairly decent up until this last page. Bobby, I still think you're harboring hate and bigotry. Dan, the "notveryprettyface" and "fagsack" comments are out of line as well. Come on, folks. Let's save the juvenile behavior for bashing politicians...especially the ones on the lib side.
I agree. Although I think maybe they're trying to use humor to fight the tension ?!
I don't find being called a "notveryprettyface" humorous, in the least!
How about Vagvisage? Better?
We can calling you VeeVee Visage...lmao
by BobbyinTN » Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:22 am
by conversationpc » Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:23 am
by Behshad » Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:24 am
BobbyinTN wrote:Moral disapproval is an improper basis for denying rights to gay men and lesbians and that the evidence shows conclusively Prop 8 enacts without reason a private moral view that same sex couples are inferior.--- Vaughn Walker--Chief Judge, U.S. District Court, Northern District of CA
by Behshad » Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:25 am
conversationpc wrote:Bobby, what about the gay bigots who blocked churches, destroyed church property, harassed pro-Prop 8 voters, etc? Did you speak out about them like you have here about the others?
by conversationpc » Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:26 am
BobbyinTN wrote:Moral disapproval is an improper basis for denying rights to gay men and lesbians and that the evidence shows conclusively Prop 8 enacts without reason a private moral view that same sex couples are inferior.--- Vaughn Walker--Chief Judge, U.S. District Court, Northern District of CA
by Saint John » Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:26 am
conversationpc wrote:Bobby, what about the gay bigots who blocked churches, destroyed church property, harassed pro-Prop 8 voters, etc? Did you speak out about them like you have here about the others?
by Angel » Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:27 am
Behshad wrote:conversationpc wrote:Bobby, what about the gay bigots who blocked churches, destroyed church property, harassed pro-Prop 8 voters, etc? Did you speak out about them like you have here about the others?
Do you ever cheer for the away team when they score on your team ?!
by Behshad » Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:27 am
conversationpc wrote:BobbyinTN wrote:Moral disapproval is an improper basis for denying rights to gay men and lesbians and that the evidence shows conclusively Prop 8 enacts without reason a private moral view that same sex couples are inferior.--- Vaughn Walker--Chief Judge, U.S. District Court, Northern District of CA
One thing I haven't heard much talk about is this judge. Doesn't it seem a little out of order to anyone that this judge, who was already well-known to be gay, ruled in favor of gays on an issue that, in my opinion, he should have recused himself from? To me, that would be like a well-known Christian judge ruling just the opposite on this issue.
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