'Seven shot dead' at US army base

[S2M]

SPH wrote:

+1 he had conflicts within himself I'm sure, being Muslim and fighting Muslims. I would think that would be difficult. And yes, being in the military, you are supposed to put country above all else, but people CAN snap and they do. People are people. He was a psychiatrist so asking for help himself would have been a lot more difficult.


Not true. Didn't you see A Few Good Men?

It is Unit, Corps, God, Country

[StevePerryHair]

SPH wrote:

+1 he had conflicts within himself I'm sure, being Muslim and fighting Muslims. I would think that would be difficult. And yes, being in the military, you are supposed to put country above all else, but people CAN snap and they do. People are people. He was a psychiatrist so asking for help himself would have been a lot more difficult.


Not true. Didn't you see A Few Good Men?

It is Unit, Corps, God, Country

close enough

[Behshad]

SPH wrote:

+1 he had conflicts within himself I'm sure, being Muslim and fighting Muslims. I would think that would be difficult. And yes, being in the military, you are supposed to put country above all else, but people CAN snap and they do. People are people. He was a psychiatrist so asking for help himself would have been a lot more difficult.


Not true. Didn't you see A Few Good Men?

It is Unit, Corps, God, Country

Is that how you quote now ???

[StevePerryHair]

SPH wrote:

+1 he had conflicts within himself I'm sure, being Muslim and fighting Muslims. I would think that would be difficult. And yes, being in the military, you are supposed to put country above all else, but people CAN snap and they do. People are people. He was a psychiatrist so asking for help himself would have been a lot more difficult.


Not true. Didn't you see A Few Good Men?

It is Unit, Corps, God, Country

Is that how you quote now ???

I didn't even catch that

[S2M]

I'm a reject when it comes to quoting, and that feature....

If the original post makes the quoted post too long....I always get the cursor to jump up... And if I'm trying to bold, italisize, or underline anything....forget it....it jumps at hyperspeed. PLUS, I'd like to learn how to use the quote feature like JfromB.....and that's a real lost cause....

[StevePerryHair]

I'm a reject when it comes to quoting, and that feature....

If the original post makes the quoted post too long....I always get the cursor to jump up... And if I'm trying to bold, italisize, or underline anything....forget it....it jumps at hyperspeed. PLUS, I'd like to learn how to use the quote feature like JfromB.....and that's a real lost cause....

See the little red quote button in the upper right corner.... try clicking on that

And what does all that jumping? WTH are you using to post here

[S2M]

I'm a reject when it comes to quoting, and that feature....

If the original post makes the quoted post too long....I always get the cursor to jump up... And if I'm trying to bold, italisize, or underline anything....forget it....it jumps at hyperspeed. PLUS, I'd like to learn how to use the quote feature like JfromB.....and that's a real lost cause....

See the little red quote button in the upper right corner.... try clicking on that

And what does all that jumping? WTH are you using to post here

I don't think you quite understand. Hmmm. Let's say this quoting between you and I goes on for about 5 more times. When I finally get around to quoting your last post, and it also has the last 9 or so quotes combined from both of us also in the reply box - whatever i start to type disappears(scrolls) out of my view....it is very strange. But I've heard of it happening to others here as well.

[StevePerryHair]

I'm a reject when it comes to quoting, and that feature....

If the original post makes the quoted post too long....I always get the cursor to jump up... And if I'm trying to bold, italisize, or underline anything....forget it....it jumps at hyperspeed. PLUS, I'd like to learn how to use the quote feature like JfromB.....and that's a real lost cause....

See the little red quote button in the upper right corner.... try clicking on that

And what does all that jumping? WTH are you using to post here

I don't think you quite understand. Hmmm. Let's say this quoting between you and I goes on for about 5 more times. When I finally get around to quoting your last post, and it also has the last 9 or so quotes combined from both of us also in the reply box - whatever i start to type disappears(scrolls) out of my view....it is very strange. But I've heard of it happening to others here as well.

Oh, okay. Yes that does happen. What I do is I click on everything and hightlight the previous words to get to the bottom and post OR I delete all the GARBAGE except for the post I need there

Practice on this one

[Behshad]

I'm a reject when it comes to quoting, and that feature....

If the original post makes the quoted post too long....I always get the cursor to jump up... And if I'm trying to bold, italisize, or underline anything....forget it....it jumps at hyperspeed. PLUS, I'd like to learn how to use the quote feature like JfromB.....and that's a real lost cause....

See the little red quote button in the upper right corner.... try clicking on that

And what does all that jumping? WTH are you using to post here

I don't think you quite understand. Hmmm. Let's say this quoting between you and I goes on for about 5 more times. When I finally get around to quoting your last post, and it also has the last 9 or so quotes combined from both of us also in the reply box - whatever i start to type disappears(scrolls) out of my view....it is very strange. But I've heard of it happening to others here as well.

Damn IE8 does that shit.... I hate it too,,,,,, I have learned to type there without seeing what I type, but then (unlike Stevew2 & Fact Finder ), I preview my post one last time before hitting submit

[StevePerryHair]

I'm a reject when it comes to quoting, and that feature....

If the original post makes the quoted post too long....I always get the cursor to jump up... And if I'm trying to bold, italisize, or underline anything....forget it....it jumps at hyperspeed. PLUS, I'd like to learn how to use the quote feature like JfromB.....and that's a real lost cause....

See the little red quote button in the upper right corner.... try clicking on that

And what does all that jumping? WTH are you using to post here

I don't think you quite understand. Hmmm. Let's say this quoting between you and I goes on for about 5 more times. When I finally get around to quoting your last post, and it also has the last 9 or so quotes combined from both of us also in the reply box - whatever i start to type disappears(scrolls) out of my view....it is very strange. But I've heard of it happening to others here as well.

Damn IE8 does that shit.... I hate it too,,,,,, I have learned to type there without seeing what I type, but then (unlike Stevew2 & Fact Finder ), I preview my post one last time before hitting submit

If you highlight everything to scroll down and then click at the end it doesn't jump back up again for me. I don't get that. Once you start typing the jumping stops. Maybe S2M is a SLOW typer

[Behshad]

I'm a reject when it comes to quoting, and that feature....

If the original post makes the quoted post too long....I always get the cursor to jump up... And if I'm trying to bold, italisize, or underline anything....forget it....it jumps at hyperspeed. PLUS, I'd like to learn how to use the quote feature like JfromB.....and that's a real lost cause....

See the little red quote button in the upper right corner.... try clicking on that

And what does all that jumping? WTH are you using to post here

I don't think you quite understand. Hmmm. Let's say this quoting between you and I goes on for about 5 more times. When I finally get around to quoting your last post, and it also has the last 9 or so quotes combined from both of us also in the reply box - whatever i start to type disappears(scrolls) out of my view....it is very strange. But I've heard of it happening to others here as well.

Damn IE8 does that shit.... I hate it too,,,,,, I have learned to type there without seeing what I type, but then (unlike Stevew2 & Fact Finder ), I preview my post one last time before hitting submit

If you highlight everything to scroll down and then click at the end it doesn't jump back up again for me. I don't get that. Once you start typing the jumping stops. Maybe S2M is a SLOW typer

It still does it,, unless you mean highlight and delete everything If you highlight everything, you have to click somewhere and when you click it "unHighlights " it......

[SultanOfSwing]

The guy was a mental health professional on base.

Probably a graduate of VT!!!! *tweek*

You were right. A psychiatrist went psycho.

He served eight years as an enlisted soldier. Military records show he also served in the ROTC as an undergraduate at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg and received a bachelor's degree in biochemistry there in 1997.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_fort_hood ... ng_suspect

[StevePerryHair]

I'm a reject when it comes to quoting, and that feature....

If the original post makes the quoted post too long....I always get the cursor to jump up... And if I'm trying to bold, italisize, or underline anything....forget it....it jumps at hyperspeed. PLUS, I'd like to learn how to use the quote feature like JfromB.....and that's a real lost cause....

See the little red quote button in the upper right corner.... try clicking on that

And what does all that jumping? WTH are you using to post here

I don't think you quite understand. Hmmm. Let's say this quoting between you and I goes on for about 5 more times. When I finally get around to quoting your last post, and it also has the last 9 or so quotes combined from both of us also in the reply box - whatever i start to type disappears(scrolls) out of my view....it is very strange. But I've heard of it happening to others here as well.

Damn IE8 does that shit.... I hate it too,,,,,, I have learned to type there without seeing what I type, but then (unlike Stevew2 & Fact Finder ), I preview my post one last time before hitting submit

If you highlight everything to scroll down and then click at the end it doesn't jump back up again for me. I don't get that. Once you start typing the jumping stops. Maybe S2M is a SLOW typer

It still does it,, unless you mean highlight and delete everything If you highlight everything, you have to click somewhere and when you click it "unHighlights " it......

No, I hightlight it as I scroll to get to the bottom. While it's highlighted, I QUICKLY click with my mouse, the place where I want to start typing, and then it never jumps again. I did it just now for this

[Behshad]

I'm a reject when it comes to quoting, and that feature....

If the original post makes the quoted post too long....I always get the cursor to jump up... And if I'm trying to bold, italisize, or underline anything....forget it....it jumps at hyperspeed. PLUS, I'd like to learn how to use the quote feature like JfromB.....and that's a real lost cause....

See the little red quote button in the upper right corner.... try clicking on that

And what does all that jumping? WTH are you using to post here

I don't think you quite understand. Hmmm. Let's say this quoting between you and I goes on for about 5 more times. When I finally get around to quoting your last post, and it also has the last 9 or so quotes combined from both of us also in the reply box - whatever i start to type disappears(scrolls) out of my view....it is very strange. But I've heard of it happening to others here as well.

Damn IE8 does that shit.... I hate it too,,,,,, I have learned to type there without seeing what I type, but then (unlike Stevew2 & Fact Finder ), I preview my post one last time before hitting submit

If you highlight everything to scroll down and then click at the end it doesn't jump back up again for me. I don't get that. Once you start typing the jumping stops. Maybe S2M is a SLOW typer

It still does it,, unless you mean highlight and delete everything If you highlight everything, you have to click somewhere and when you click it "unHighlights " it......

No, I hightlight it as I scroll to get to the bottom. While it's highlighted, I QUICKLY click with my mouse, the place where I want to start typing, and then it never jumps again. I did it just now for this

Nope,, doesnt wok,,,, what version is your IE ?

[StevePerryHair]

I'm a reject when it comes to quoting, and that feature....

If the original post makes the quoted post too long....I always get the cursor to jump up... And if I'm trying to bold, italisize, or underline anything....forget it....it jumps at hyperspeed. PLUS, I'd like to learn how to use the quote feature like JfromB.....and that's a real lost cause....

See the little red quote button in the upper right corner.... try clicking on that

And what does all that jumping? WTH are you using to post here

I don't think you quite understand. Hmmm. Let's say this quoting between you and I goes on for about 5 more times. When I finally get around to quoting your last post, and it also has the last 9 or so quotes combined from both of us also in the reply box - whatever i start to type disappears(scrolls) out of my view....it is very strange. But I've heard of it happening to others here as well.

Damn IE8 does that shit.... I hate it too,,,,,, I have learned to type there without seeing what I type, but then (unlike Stevew2 & Fact Finder ), I preview my post one last time before hitting submit

If you highlight everything to scroll down and then click at the end it doesn't jump back up again for me. I don't get that. Once you start typing the jumping stops. Maybe S2M is a SLOW typer

It still does it,, unless you mean highlight and delete everything If you highlight everything, you have to click somewhere and when you click it "unHighlights " it......

No, I hightlight it as I scroll to get to the bottom. While it's highlighted, I QUICKLY click with my mouse, the place where I want to start typing, and then it never jumps again. I did it just now for this

Nope,, doesnt wok,,,, what version is your IE ?

How do I check that?


I figured it out! It's IE7! So I guess I don't want 8 then? Mine jumps sometimes too though. Especially during long pm's with quotes all over, and that's how I handle it.

[Behshad]

click on Help. About Internet Exploer

[StevePerryHair]

click on Help. About Internet Exploer

I edited above.

[Behshad]

Thats why yours doesnt jump ! IE7 doesnt do it anywhere near what IE8 does!!!

[StevePerryHair]

Thats why yours doesnt jump ! IE7 doesnt do it anywhere near what IE8 does!!!

Oh, ok. Well mine jumps a lot in pm's, well it used to And that worked for me. As soon as i started typing it would stay down.

I don't wanna upgrade then.

[bluejeangirl76]

Mine jumps if there is too much text in the quoted post or PM, which is why I didn't quote to reply here.

I have not tested Firefox to see if it does it there.

My solution to this problem is that I DON'T QUOTE 40 POSTS AT ONCE.

If y'all would just learn how to edit out the stuff that isn't relevant anymore after 6 topic changes, this wouldn't happen.

I explained the point by point quoting to one of you lot about 8 months ago and I see that none of my tutoring helped. I'm going to hold classes in this. I'll offer MR posters a discount.

[StevePerryHair]

Mine jumps if there is too much text in the quote, which is why I didn't quote to reply.

I have not tested Firefox to see if it does it there.

My solution to this problem is that I DON'T QUOTE 40 POSTS AT ONCE.

If y'all would just learn how to edit out the stuff that isn't relevant anymore after 6 topic changes, this wouldn't happen.

I explained the point by point quoting to one of you lot about 8 months ago and I see that none of my tutoring helped. I'm going to hold classes in this. I'll offer MR posters a discount.

Yeah, that's the other thing! I think some people don't know how to delete all the other posts except for the one they are quoting though. They don't know how to delete without messing up the quotes. I practiced and previewed when I first learned until I got it right

[RedWingFan]

The guy was a mental health professional on base.

Probably a graduate of VT!!!! *tweek*

You were right. A psychiatrist went psycho.

He served eight years as an enlisted soldier. Military records show he also served in the ROTC as an undergraduate at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg and received a bachelor's degree in biochemistry there in 1997.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_fort_hood ... ng_suspect

What can I say? I'm right so much it's scary!!!

[StoneCold]

Hero Cop



http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... malik.html

Police Sgt. Kimberly Munley credited with ending Fort Hood gunman Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan's rampage

BY Brian Kates

The hero cop who ended the bloody rampage at Fort Hood had been directing traffic moments before she confronted the gunman and pumped four bullets into him despite being shot herself.

Civilian police Sgt. Kimberly Munley and her partner responded within three minutes of reported gunfire Thursday afternoon, Lt. Gen. Bob Cone said Friday.

Munley, who had been trained in active-response tactics, rushed into the building and confronted the shooter as he was turning a corner, Cone said.

"It was an amazing and an aggressive performance by this police officer," Cone said.

Munley was only a few feet from crazed Army psychiatrist Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan when she opened fire.

Wounded in the exchange of gunfire, Munley was reported in stable condition at a local hospital.

The hero cop spent Thursday night phoning fellow officers to let them know she was fine and to find out about casualties in the attack - the deadliest ever on a military base in the U.S., Cone said.

Cone said Munley's aggressive response training taught her that "if you act aggressively to take out a shooter you will have less fatalities."

"She walked up and engaged him," he said. He praised her as "one of our most impressive young police officers."

[Rick]

I was urged to watch CNN by a friend tonight, err this morning. Anderson Cooper had a special on the events at Fort Hood.

There were people in New York, Islamic radicals, that were praising what happened.

These people are protected by law in the U.S. and are able to not only praise the events, but recruit people to their way of thinking.

I'm not even sure what country I'm in anymore. HOW FUCKING LONG ARE WE GOING TO STAND FOR THIS SHIT?

I'm changing my avatar to something patriotic, and keeping it.

[Ehwmatt]

I was urged to watch CNN by a friend tonight, err this morning. Anderson Cooper had a special on the events at Fort Hood.

There were people in New York, Islamic radicals, that were praising what happened.

These people are protected by law in the U.S. and are able to not only praise the events, but recruit people to their way of thinking.

I'm not even sure what country I'm in anymore. HOW FUCKING LONG ARE WE GOING TO STAND FOR THIS SHIT?

I'm changing my avatar to something patriotic, and keeping it.

I saw that last night as well, Rick. AC did a hell of a job. The warning signs on this guy were unbelievable. The thing is, people were too damn afraid of being PC, walking on eggshells as I've noted (hence the "outrage" at someone describing the guy's name as "Arabic sounding"), that no one would act on this guy or look deeper into it.

It really is fucking pathetic when we are letting our own freedom take advantage of us. People, quit being fucking afraid of offending people and stand up for what's right. Trust your gut. If some Arabic guy spends 80% of his time talking about how suicide bombing is justified and how the war on terror is a "war on Islam," chances are the guy has a penchant for pulling something like this!

It's time we start calling a spade a fucking spade and forget the fucking PC garbage for two seconds. This doesn't just apply to national security/our safety, but to every facet of life. There are people out there who keep their jobs in spite of doing an awful job because people have to walk on eggshells, people who are dangerous that go unchecked because people are afraid of offending, and all this other bullshit. It HAS to stop.

Those radicals were sick and if I lived in New York City I might have to get a few of my friends to show those guys a thing or two. If I had to interview one of those guys as a journalist, I'd probably lose my job because I'd probably spit in both of those fuckers' mangy beards and beat the living piss out of them before I pissed all over them.

[Ehwmatt]

GB, agreed, lots of bad apples in the military as everywhere. Difference I see is he lost it and went on his own personal jihad. That's my opinion until further intel. Of course, it's remotely possible the Nidal Hassan I'm quoting and the shooter are two different people but I doubt it.

Here's a pdf where of his Martyrdom paper:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/3989813/Marty ... de-Bombing

I agree he lost it. Shootings on Military bases aren't anything new unfortunately.

http://www.nytimes.com/1994/06/22/us/an ... error.html

+1 he had conflicts within himself I'm sure, being Muslim and fighting Muslims. I would think that would be difficult. And yes, being in the military, you are supposed to put country above all else, but people CAN snap and they do. People are people. He was a psychiatrist so asking for help himself would have been a lot more difficult.

Oh save the PC bullshit, this guy was a terrorist long before he suited up in fatigues. This is the kind of PC, explanatory shit that led to allowing this to happen. People were probably saying the same thing when he was making presentations on suicide bombing's merits when he was in a public health introductory class! Look where it got us.

[JH'sTXfan]

+1 he had conflicts within himself I'm sure, being Muslim and fighting Muslims. I would think that would be difficult. And yes, being in the military, you are supposed to put country above all else, but people CAN snap and they do. People are people. He was a psychiatrist so asking for help himself would have been a lot more difficult.

Oh save the PC bullshit, this guy was a terrorist long before he suited up in fatigues. This is the kind of PC, explanatory shit that led to allowing this to happen. People were probably saying the same thing when he was making presentations on suicide bombing's merits when he was in a public health introductory class! Look where it got us.

I agree. His life was "difficult"? I know someone who's Dad died by this cold blooded killer's gun. The families of the victims and the people lying injured in hospitals with gunshot wounds deserve all the understanding and sympathy in this horrible tragedy. They're the ones who are having "difficulties" in their lives.

[Ehwmatt]

+1 he had conflicts within himself I'm sure, being Muslim and fighting Muslims. I would think that would be difficult. And yes, being in the military, you are supposed to put country above all else, but people CAN snap and they do. People are people. He was a psychiatrist so asking for help himself would have been a lot more difficult.

Oh save the PC bullshit, this guy was a terrorist long before he suited up in fatigues. This is the kind of PC, explanatory shit that led to allowing this to happen. People were probably saying the same thing when he was making presentations on suicide bombing's merits when he was in a public health introductory class! Look where it got us.

I agree. His life was "difficult"? I know someone who's Dad died by this cold blooded killer's gun. The families of the victims and the people lying injured in hospitals with gunshot wounds deserve all the understanding and sympathy in this horrible tragedy. They're the ones who are having "difficulties" in their lives.

The point is, this is the very mentality that made it impossible to preempt this sick fuck's actions! People were afraid of stepping on toes and offending because he was a Muslim. God forbid they racially profile a Muslim who spends over half his life discussing the joys of suicide bombing and his hatred of the institution that paid for two degrees for him! Fuck this guy

The military guys on AC last night even acknowledged that he wasn't stopped because they were afraid of offending the Muslims in the army. It's an understandably tough situation, given the nature of the conflicts we are in, but 13 would have been spared if we weren't always so afraid of being politically incorrect in this country.

[StoneCold]

U.S. had Islamist intelligence on Fort Hood shooter
Mon Nov 9, 2009

By Adam Entous

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. intelligence agencies learned an Army psychiatrist tried to contact Islamists with suspected al Qaeda links and relayed that information to federal authorities before the man allegedly went on a shooting spree in Texas last week, U.S. sources said on Monday.

The sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter, said intelligence agencies intercepted electronic communications between the suspect, Major Nidal Malik Hasan, and anti-American Islamists starting last year and reported the contacts to federal authorities, including the FBI.

http://www.reuters.com/articlePrint?art ... DK20091110

[RossValoryRocks]

U.S. had Islamist intelligence on Fort Hood shooter
Mon Nov 9, 2009

By Adam Entous

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. intelligence agencies learned an Army psychiatrist tried to contact Islamists with suspected al Qaeda links and relayed that information to federal authorities before the man allegedly went on a shooting spree in Texas last week, U.S. sources said on Monday.

The sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter, said intelligence agencies intercepted electronic communications between the suspect, Major Nidal Malik Hasan, and anti-American Islamists starting last year and reported the contacts to federal authorities, including the FBI.

http://www.reuters.com/articlePrint?art ... DK20091110

But...but...its a Religion of Peace!?