Ford Fusion - Motor Trend 2010 car of year !

[S2M]

Not the exact car, Ms. Doofus....but the same style, model, year, and color....

[StevePerryHair]

Not the exact car, Ms. Doofus....but the same style, m
odel, year, and color....

I know mr. Doofus I just had to say it though

[Enigma869]

I've owned many Crown Vics in my life (the old cop in me) and they were SUPERB cars. I now drive a Lincoln Navigator (Ford) and while it's not quite to the level of luxury my old Lexus was, it's a VERY nice vehicle. I'll take a Ford over ANY shit GM product, ANY day. I used to own a Yukon Denali and I can't begin to tell you how much nicer EVERYTHING in the Navigator is versus the shitty GM product I owned. While it's not poltically correct to say, I'm not someone who is sad that GM is doing so horribly. I've believed for most of my life that they're a shit company who builds crappy (not to mention some that are fucking hideous looking) vehicles.

[Don]

Isn't Ford's reliability rating on the upswing while Toyota's is starting to take a hit? I'm sure this correlates with the number of vehicles sold and as Toyota has become the top dog in sales, naturally the more you produce, the higher the number of recalls seems to get.

I watch Motor Week, every week and they have been impressed with the the American manufacturers as of late. Too bad it took so long for Ford and GM to wake up.

Does Ford own a big stake in Mazda? I don't hear much about that Japanese company anymore.

[Enigma869]

Does Ford own a big stake in Mazda?

It wouldn't surprise me. I know they own Jaguar and am fairly certain that they have a huge stake in Land Rover and Volvo as well.

[Behshad]

Does Ford own a big stake in Mazda?

It wouldn't surprise me. I know they own Jaguar and am fairly certain that they have a huge stake in Land Rover and Volvo as well.

They do own Mazda and Volvo. They sold Jaguar/Land Rover last year to a company from india , called Tata !

[Rick]

Does Ford own a big stake in Mazda?

It wouldn't surprise me. I know they own Jaguar and am fairly certain that they have a huge stake in Land Rover and Volvo as well.

They do own Mazda and Volvo. They sold Jaguar/Land Rover last year to a company from india , called Tata !

I was car shopping and a salesman told me that Ford owned a 49% stake in Mazda. This was probably 10 years or more ago, so it could be different now. I'm not sure though that a foreign company can take more than a 49% stake.

[Rhiannon]

I have a Ford. It's almost 10 years old. And it is a piece of SHIT. I've spent over $2500 in one year just to keep the thing running. I'm sure Ford has improved in the past five years, but after owning this Fukus for a year, I'm very much looking forward to purchasing my 2010 Toyota or Scion in the coming days.

[Don]

I have a Ford. It's almost 10 years old. And it is a piece of SHIT. I've spent over $2500 in one year just to keep the thing running. I'm sure Ford has improved in the past five years, but after owning this Fukus for a year, I'm very much looking forward to purchasing my 2010 Toyota or Scion in the coming days.

I bought a ten year old Toyota Celica for 1500 dollars. Right then, I changed the timing belt, cam seals, water pump and distributor, just to be safe, plus the alternator and starter, got new rotors instead of resurfacing, and changed the front and back brakes also, changed all the radiator hoses and flushed the engine, transmission and cooling system. I spent 2200 dollars, so 3700 right off the bat. Now, that ten year old car has lasted me another ten years. I think I have got my money out of it. I've changed the rotors once more and the brake pads three times, changed the tires and had it regularly serviced, just like you would do with a new car, so that's probably an additional 1500 dollars. I can't complain.

[Rhiannon]

Now, that ten year old car has lasted me another ten years. I think I have got my money out of it. I've changed the rotors once more and the brake pads three times, changed the tires and had it regularly serviced, just like you would do with a new car, so that's probably an additional 1500 dollars. I can't complain.

Yeah, that I understand. I had a 97 Plymouth Breeze that I drove until it had 280k miles on it. Old cars incur maintenance costs just the same. But this model and year of Ford I have is plagued with defects, troubles, and overall flaws. It's not just regular upkeep I've shelled out for. It's a badly designed car that was poorly built.

[Don]

Now, that ten year old car has lasted me another ten years. I think I have got my money out of it. I've changed the rotors once more and the brake pads three times, changed the tires and had it regularly serviced, just like you would do with a new car, so that's probably an additional 1500 dollars. I can't complain.

Yeah, that I understand. I had a 97 Plymouth Breeze that I drove until it had 280k miles on it. Old cars incur maintenance costs just the same. But this model and year of Ford I have is plagued with defects, troubles, and overall flaws. It's not just regular upkeep I've shelled out for. It's a badly designed car that was poorly built.

Yeah, that's why I mentioned it was Toyota. Back in the day, it was hard to find a better brand. I would have taken them over Honda any day. When I was in Japan, every one drove those and Nissan. I asked them why they didn't drive Honda's, I was told they weren't as reliable.

The funny thing is, no one drives a car that is more than five years old in Japan. The insurance would go through the roof and you couldn't pass their strict emissions, so it is probably cheaper to get a new vehicle. They turn around and sell the used engines over here for a few hundred bucks as the mileage isn't more than 35k on most of them.

[Sarah]

My first car was a 1994 Explorer, it could barely hit 70, and it actually died while I was sitting in a traffic jam. It wasn't Ford's best car, of course.

I now have a 1990 Acura Legend that's still goin' just fine (not without issues, of course, but better than the Explorer for sure). Hondas last!

[Rhiannon]

Yeah, that's why I mentioned it was Toyota. Back in the day, it was hard to find a better brand. I would have taken them over Honda any day. When I was in Japan, every one drove those and Nissan. I asked them why they didn't drive Honda's, I was told they weren't as reliable.

I got ya, yes... Toyota has always been very reliable. As for now, I'm leasing for two years so long term isn't a big concern of mine. And you can lease a Toyota or Scion for $150-250/mo with maybe a grand or two down. Can't really beat that price for the quality. And considering what I've spent on the Focus this past year PLUS flight/rental car/gas expenses traveling home since I obviously can't take the death trap on a 1200 mile road trip, I've spent damn near $6000, which is pretty much the entirety of a two year lease. So I'm already cutting my expenses in half just by getting into a new car.

[Jana]

Now, that ten year old car has lasted me another ten years. I think I have got my money out of it. I've changed the rotors once more and the brake pads three times, changed the tires and had it regularly serviced, just like you would do with a new car, so that's probably an additional 1500 dollars. I can't complain.

Yeah, that I understand. I had a 97 Plymouth Breeze that I drove until it had 280k miles on it. Old cars incur maintenance costs just the same. But this model and year of Ford I have is plagued with defects, troubles, and overall flaws. It's not just regular upkeep I've shelled out for. It's a badly designed car that was poorly built.

Yeah, that's why I mentioned it was Toyota. Back in the day, it was hard to find a better brand. I would have taken them over Honda any day. When I was in Japan, every one drove those and Nissan. I asked them why they didn't drive Honda's, I was told they weren't as reliable.

The funny thing is, no one drives a car that is more than five years old in Japan. The insurance would go through the roof and you couldn't pass their strict emissions, so it is probably cheaper to get a new vehicle. They turn around and sell the used engines over here for a few hundred bucks as the mileage isn't more than 35k on most of them.

I have many friends who swear by Hondas/Acuras, and really hold their value. But I once had a Toyota for five years and a Mitsubishi after that for five years, and I was abusive to them beyond belief and were never once in the shop beyond past-due maintenance and past-due oil changes or a belt or something. Though, the Mitsubishi didn't hold its value for trade in a couple of years ago like my Nissan and Toyota did. But I've never owned a car past 75K to 80k miles at the most, so who knows what would have happened after that. But I have family and friends with American cars, same mileage as my cars about, and they were in the shop quite often as time wore on and they took fantastic care of their cars and couldn't believe my luck and swtiched to foreign b/c of their experiences. Though, my one friend loved her Explorers and kept them for years and said they were great and refuses to buy foreign makes.

[bluejeangirl76]

I have many friends who swear by Hondas/Acuras, and really hold their value.

Honda absolutely does. I have a friend who, in 1995 bought an 1983 Civic Hatchback. She sold it in 1998 and the next user got another 4 years out of it - and the only reason it died then was that owner did something really dumb. The car would have been fine for awhile yet.

[Ehwmatt]

I have many friends who swear by Hondas/Acuras, and really hold their value.

Honda absolutely does. I have a friend who, in 1995 bought an 1983 Civic Hatchback. She sold it in 1998 and the next user got another 4 years out of it - and the only reason it died then was that owner did something really dumb. The car would have been fine for awhile yet.

My 05 Altima is at 55.5K miles and still running like a charm. I anticipate on having it for at least another three years.

[Don]

Now, that ten year old car has lasted me another ten years. I think I have got my money out of it. I've changed the rotors once more and the brake pads three times, changed the tires and had it regularly serviced, just like you would do with a new car, so that's probably an additional 1500 dollars. I can't complain.

Yeah, that I understand. I had a 97 Plymouth Breeze that I drove until it had 280k miles on it. Old cars incur maintenance costs just the same. But this model and year of Ford I have is plagued with defects, troubles, and overall flaws. It's not just regular upkeep I've shelled out for. It's a badly designed car that was poorly built.

Yeah, that's why I mentioned it was Toyota. Back in the day, it was hard to find a better brand. I would have taken them over Honda any day. When I was in Japan, every one drove those and Nissan. I asked them why they didn't drive Honda's, I was told they weren't as reliable.

The funny thing is, no one drives a car that is more than five years old in Japan. The insurance would go through the roof and you couldn't pass their strict emissions, so it is probably cheaper to get a new vehicle. They turn around and sell the used engines over here for a few hundred bucks as the mileage isn't more than 35k on most of them.

I have many friends who swear by Hondas/Acuras, and really hold their value. But I once had a Toyota for five years and a Mitsubishi after that for five years, and I was abusive to them beyond belief and were never once in the shop beyond past-due maintenance and past-due oil changes or a belt or something. Though, the Mitsubishi didn't hold its value for trade in a couple of years ago like my Nissan and Toyota did. And my Nissan really held its value but only owned it four years. But I've never owned a car past 75K to 80k miles at the most, so who knows what would have happened after that. But I have family and friends with American cars, same mileage as my cars about, and they were in the shop quite often as time wore on and they took fantastic care of their cars and couldn't believe my luck and swtiched to foreign b/c of their experiences. Though, my one friend loved her Explorers and kept them for years and said they were great and refuses to buy foreign makes.

Fucking Acuras. My son had his stolen last week in the middle of a parking lot with a loud ass alarm and inhibitor switch. The police found it quickly, but not quick enough. Less than four hours and it was stripped. Total loss. Finishing up the claim with State Farm, now have to start on the Gap insurance for the rest of his loan.

No more Acuras for him, either a Honda Fit or a Nissan Versa.

[Jana]

I have many friends who swear by Hondas/Acuras, and really hold their value.

Honda absolutely does. I have a friend who, in 1995 bought an 1983 Civic Hatchback. She sold it in 1998 and the next user got another 4 years out of it - and the only reason it died then was that owner did something really dumb. The car would have been fine for awhile yet.

My 05 Altima is at 55.5K miles and still running like a charm. I anticipate on having it for at least another three years.

When I was in an accident a few months ago, they gave me the new model 09 black Altima while it was in the body shop. I had so much fun in that car. It cornered so nicely and had such speedy pickup.

[Ehwmatt]

I have many friends who swear by Hondas/Acuras, and really hold their value.

Honda absolutely does. I have a friend who, in 1995 bought an 1983 Civic Hatchback. She sold it in 1998 and the next user got another 4 years out of it - and the only reason it died then was that owner did something really dumb. The car would have been fine for awhile yet.

My 05 Altima is at 55.5K miles and still running like a charm. I anticipate on having it for at least another three years.

When I was in an accident a few months ago, they gave me the new model 09 black Altima while it was in the body shop. I had so much fun in that car. It cornered so nicely and had such speedy pickup.

I traded in an 00 Bonneville for it and I really thought I was gonna miss that V6... it amazes me how much power I get out of the V4. Tons of pickup. I

[xflajrnylvr]

I had a Honda Civic that had 280000 on it and sold it for 2 grand 2 years ( 1998 model). I currently drive a 02 accord with 55000 miles on it and have not had a problem with it. The only thing i hadto do to the civic was the cv joints on the front and that is common with civics. I am probably going nissan next

[Sarah]

I'd like to add that my car has 180k miles.

Also, I'm embarrassed for you jerkwads re: Mexicans. If it'd been black people, would you call it a "nigger symbol" too? Thieves suck but no need to get racist.

[Don]

I'd like to add that my car has 180k miles.

Also, I'm embarrassed for you jerkwads re: Mexicans. If it'd been black people, would you call it a "nigger symbol" too?

It is what it is. If you're gonna steal my car, then I'm not going to respect you as a person.

[Saint John]

I'd like to add that my car has 180k miles.

Also, I'm embarrassed for you jerkwads re: Mexicans. If it'd been black people, would you call it a "nigger symbol" too? Thieves suck but no need to get racist.

Hmmm...I think because the term "beaner" was used that it would make the analogous word for a black person "coon" or "spook." Now had they used the word "spic" then it would have been appropritae to use the word "nigger." Hope that clears things up! And, for the record, I thought your car was a pretty cool ride.

[Enigma869]

My 05 Altima is at 55.5K miles and still running like a charm.

Why is this news? Why wouldn't an 05 model year vehicle with only 55 miles (low miles for the year) be running like a charm? I had a 2004 Crown Vic that had 75K on it and I never had a single problem with that vehicle. There is a reason that police departments and taxi companies rack up 300K + miles on these beasts!

[Enigma869]

I traded in an 00 Bonneville

Ah yes...the good old Pontiac Bonneville. My neighbor used to buy one of those shitboxes every few years. The back windows didn't open., and I don't mean they were defective. Some genius at GM apparently decided that it was a good idea to design a vehicle that had rear windows that weren't even capable of being opened without throwing a brick through them

[Ehwmatt]

My 05 Altima is at 55.5K miles and still running like a charm.

Why is this news? Why wouldn't an 05 model year vehicle with only 55 miles (low miles for the year) be running like a charm? I had a 2004 Crown Vic that had 75K on it and I never had a single problem with that vehicle. There is a reason that police departments and taxi companies rack up 300K + miles on these beasts!

Nah I wasn't trying to say it shouldn't be running well, just trying to say I enjoy the car. I will say though, on my Bonneville, by 50K, I had already had to make some expensive repairs that shouldn't have happened (outside of brakes/tires, which you obviously need at least once by that point). And yes, I am OCD with maintenance for my cars, so there was no excuse for the shit I had to go through with that Bonneville... how I made it to 90K miles I'll never know!

[Ehwmatt]

I traded in an 00 Bonneville

Ah yes...the good old Pontiac Bonneville. My neighbor used to buy one of those shitboxes every few years. The back windows didn't open., and I don't mean they were defective. Some genius at GM apparently decided that it was a good idea to design a vehicle that had rear windows that weren't even capable of being opened without throwing a brick through them

It was actually a really nice car, it was a lease I bought after it was returned. Fully loaded minus leather, great sound system and a great ride/lots of power. Just too many problems.

[Enigma869]

It was actually a really nice car, it was a lease I bought after it was returned. Fully loaded minus leather, great sound system and a great ride/lots of power. Just too many problems.

But, did the back windows roll down?

[Ehwmatt]

It was actually a really nice car, it was a lease I bought after it was returned. Fully loaded minus leather, great sound system and a great ride/lots of power. Just too many problems.

But, did the back windows roll down?

As far as I remember! It's been a while

[Jeremey]

My last company car was a Ford Fusion and it was pretty freakin' great. Of course all free cars are great, but this one was exceptional and was one that I would have purchased had I been looking to spend money on a new car. It was also built in Mexico.

I currently put about 3000 miles a week on a Ford E 150 van and we have a late model Honda Odyssey which is pretty awesome as well. All in all, I think the overall quality of most cars these days is really great.