Behshad wrote:* The Mortal Kombat censor battle wasnt between Nintendo and Sony. It was between Nintendo and Sega. It was Super Nintendo vs Sega Genesis. While it was actually a decision made by the developers Acclaim to put a censor on the end of fights for the SNES version, RARE made up for that by releasing the brutal Killer Instinct for SNES ONLY !
True, the battle was with Sega. But, the point still stands. Nintendo's image became that of a kiddie machine. Games like GTA go to Sony and Microsoft because Nintendo has the image of Mario and Zelda...they are basically the Disney of video games. This is why the Gamecube failed, badly. Despite having decent games at launch, better graphics and faster processor - generally better hardware then the PS2, it still failed to attract much 3rd party support for more mature games. Ironically, one of the best games I've ever played, Resident Evil 4, was a Gamecube exclusive (and is absolutely incredible on the Wii). However, when it was obvious that it was a HUGE hit...it was quickly moved to the PS2 because THAT is where most of the gamers were and where they could sell the most games. THAT is the problem Nintendo has.
Yes, they can sell a lot of Wii's. But, the games the true gamers want to play are either on other consoles, or are on the Wii as an after thought and slapped together with quirky wii-mote controls. And, the games that DO make an effort, COD:WAW or COD:MW2, do not have the resources on the Wii to make it a comparable experience to the other consoles.
So, the Wii is stuck with Wii-fit, goofy sports games, novelty games that make quirky use of the controller...but, they are not serious games for serious gamers.
This was the SAME issue Atari faced towards the end of their reign...a LOT of games, but few truly GREAT games. Again, what new'ish game on the Wii can compete with COD:MW2, GoW3, Assassins Creed 2? Even standard games like Mario Kart are going to have to stack up to the likes of Mod Nation Racers...where you can not only define a mii type character, but design your own Karts and tracks to share on the 'net. Where are the innovative GAMES like Little Big Planet? innovation on the Wii are things like the balance board. That is a gimmick to sell hardware, not a GAME innovation.
* When I say Nintendo was associated with videogames, Im talking about genreal public... if you see any videogame refences in the 80s movies 80% of them use the term Nintendo.
Not all of them. I can recall movies where they were playing the Atari version of PacMan. The simple FACT is that Atari ruled the early 80's. Nintendo could not do that because they did not exist...at least not as a competition for video games.
While Atari and Comodore and others focused on providing games to gamers and Arcade-goers like Sean
Commodore was not a gaming console...the Vic 20, 64 and Amiga were PC wannabe's. True, they were used mostly for games - but they were NOT consoles. That's like called the Apple II a gaming console.
Nintendo is the one who brought the videogame systems into peoples home and make the home console market super popular,,, by 1986 , you didnt have to be a gamer to know Super Mario and Duck Hunt .
And, you had to be a gamer to know PacMan? Seems to me I remember a top 40 hit song about that game.
Sorry, but Nintendo picked up where Atari left off. Atari brought the games to people's home. Nintendo brought the second generation.
* Nintendo knows this business better than anyone else. They do still aim at the gamers.
Really? What is the next Wii game that has gamers excited? Metroid "Other M"? More Super Mario? Gamers are turning their backs on the Wii nowadays. I think any new Wii game is going to get a lukewarm response at best. The novelty of the Wii has worn off and the games are not speaking to gamers like those released on other consoles.
They chose NOT to go with HD and DVD based system on Wii, because they KNEW that there was still TONS of money to be made off of the gamers and non-gamers, as long as they kept the cost low and got more non-gamers onboard. The Wii mote itself is a true winner and an idea that Sony and Microsoft with THEY had thought of.
They chose to not do an expensive console and try to compete with Sony and Microsoft because the Gamecube failed. The GC was BETTER then the PS2 but it still went NOWHERE. They KNOW they can't compete with serious gamers...so they went the novelty route. The Wii is essentially a glorified GC with a new remote.
You are right about the wii-mote...but it did not help the games as expected. The wii was sposed to a huge leap for FPS games...But, where are the new FPS games that everybody wants to play? Where was MAG? Where is Killzone? Where is Battlefield: Bad Company? On the Wii, we are stuck with Red Steel and cartoonish games like Medal of Honor. The Wii is not taken seriously....it is a toy, not a gaming machine.
* Nintendo will be around with both hardware and software, as long as they have Shyigero Myamoto(They master mind behind all amazing Zelda & Mario games) on their side. The only biggest mistake Nintendo made was to scrap their partnership with Sony back in 1993 which allowed Sony to enter the market on its on and give Nintendo a competition they never expected nor wished for.
The Wii had better be a stepping stone to something better, or Nintendo will be the next Atari or Sega.
* I dont see Sony releasing the PS4 anytime before 2014. Theyre focusing on the new move controller which might be a flopp.... Microsoft is also focusing on something similar,, so theyre both trying to come up with something that Nintendo did with Wii 4 years ago.
Yeah, but they also have money to burn. All three consoles can claim success this time around.
* The main reason Sega went down and switched to software only is NOT cause they were making too many systems too fast... it was because their software support dropped , when EA focused more on Sony and Nintendo. If you think about their consoles, they released the Master system to compete with NES,,,,, Genesis to compete with SNES,,, Saturn to compete with PS One & N64 and lastly Dreamcast to compete with GameCube & PS2 .... so they were releasing the systems right along others, but lack of software compared so Sony and Nintento killed them.
They rushed each of those to market before their time. The Dreamcast is a perfect example...it was released before the PS2 and by the time GC came about, Sega was software only and releasing MonkeyBall for the Gamecube.
To sum it all up,
As much as I love playing the new games like GOW III or FF XIII or NHL 10, Im a sucker for the nostalgic NES games. Back in the NES days, gaming was at its best. They kept shipping out great games, where you were hooked on the game till you beat it,,, and you didnt give a fuck about super nice 3d graphics.....
games like Super Mario Bros (1 & 3),,, Punch Out, Castlevania (I,II,II), Zelda (I & II ) , Metroid , Kid Icarus, Goonies II , GunSmoke, Excite Bike, Contra, Gradius, Kung Fu, Double Dragon , TMNT , Mega Man series, Donkey Kong, Gauntlet etc ,,, are still to this day a blast to play.
Quite frankly, I thought gaming was BORING during the Nintendo years. Side scrolling platformers are just dull to me. I'd rather do: Defender/Stargate, Joust, even Asteroids or battlezone then a boring sidescroller. Heck, I was so good at "Wizard of Wor" from playing it at home on my Bally Arcade that I could literally play for hours on one quarter...at home, I turned the score over.
Why do I have a feeling if you entered there you'd have a heart attack from the adreniline rush? My family can spend an entire day there
. I was so good at that as a kid and I kept getting squashed 
I think otherwise, they are about equal 
