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StevePerryHair wrote:I'm looking at the SHOW as a whole. You are nitpicking vocals. That's the difference.Behshad wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:The visuals are cool. And it's not THAT bad. The sound system SUCKS though! Their sound was going in and out! BEP are not known to be great live anyway. LOVED that Slash was there, and a good pick for an FU to AxleFergie's mic didnt even work on her first note. Ridiculous for a SB for that to happen. It was an energetic show. Maybe not the best half-time, but not the worst.
They SUCKED ! the vocals were horrible. They had sound issues , simply cause of the microphones they handed out to bunch of " studio singers" , who need technology to make them sound like they can sing.
bluejeangirl76 wrote:RedWingFan wrote:bluejeangirl76 wrote:So bad that I turned it off.
Are you watching Puppy Bowl VII on Animal Planet?
No. I found a documentary on volcanoes on netflix. Needed back the IQ points that Fergie just killed. That halftime show made my brain feel gluey.
Yeah, I'm trying to be young and coolBehshad wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Gee, I'm so shocked a board of old people who love MR would have that takeSeven Wishes wrote:Well, SPH, in MY world, and as a lifelong musician, whether or not a band sounds good live and has actual talent is ALL it's about. When your music sucks, you should deliver KNOCKOUT shows. Yes, they WERE that bad. It had NOTHING to do with the sound system.It wasn't the worst. It was better than the Stones.
Sounds like you're cheering for them just so you're "young and cool ".
The vocals were the worst vocals , yes even worse than Stones & Bruce.
Seven Wishes wrote:Don wrote:With all the dancing, I was surpised there wasn't more of the lead vocals on tape but it had definitely was better than the Who's performance. The addition of Usher was what really made the show.
Dude, Frank Oz would sound better singing Tiny Tim while on acid than Daltrey did. However, the BEP's were just as bad,
StevePerryHair wrote:Yeah, I'm trying to be young and coolBehshad wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Gee, I'm so shocked a board of old people who love MR would have that takeSeven Wishes wrote:Well, SPH, in MY world, and as a lifelong musician, whether or not a band sounds good live and has actual talent is ALL it's about. When your music sucks, you should deliver KNOCKOUT shows. Yes, they WERE that bad. It had NOTHING to do with the sound system.It wasn't the worst. It was better than the Stones.
Sounds like you're cheering for them just so you're "young and cool ".
The vocals were the worst vocals , yes even worse than Stones & Bruce.2 of my kids don't even like them! I liked it as a SHOW. I never said the vocals were good. Did you read my first post?
Behshad wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:I'm looking at the SHOW as a whole. You are nitpicking vocals. That's the difference.Behshad wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:The visuals are cool. And it's not THAT bad. The sound system SUCKS though! Their sound was going in and out! BEP are not known to be great live anyway. LOVED that Slash was there, and a good pick for an FU to AxleFergie's mic didnt even work on her first note. Ridiculous for a SB for that to happen. It was an energetic show. Maybe not the best half-time, but not the worst.
They SUCKED ! the vocals were horrible. They had sound issues , simply cause of the microphones they handed out to bunch of " studio singers" , who need technology to make them sound like they can sing.
The vocals are very important at a LIVE SHOW , SuperBowl halftime mind you. The credit is given to the light show they
put together. Did you watch it with sound on mute or shall I recommend a visit to the nearest Hearing Aid center
Don wrote:I guarantee you the NFL was ecstatic how this went down. They have wanted to get back to the younger generation's music for awhile and even if you don't care for it, this went well. The only risk happened when Usher did that jump but other than that, the Choreography was good. When you have this versus 60 year old rockers I think the choice for the NFL is obvious, go with what the kids want which is lights, dancing and multiple acts.
StevePerryHair wrote:Behshad wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:I'm looking at the SHOW as a whole. You are nitpicking vocals. That's the difference.Behshad wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:The visuals are cool. And it's not THAT bad. The sound system SUCKS though! Their sound was going in and out! BEP are not known to be great live anyway. LOVED that Slash was there, and a good pick for an FU to AxleFergie's mic didnt even work on her first note. Ridiculous for a SB for that to happen. It was an energetic show. Maybe not the best half-time, but not the worst.
They SUCKED ! the vocals were horrible. They had sound issues , simply cause of the microphones they handed out to bunch of " studio singers" , who need technology to make them sound like they can sing.
The vocals are very important at a LIVE SHOW , SuperBowl halftime mind you. The credit is given to the light show they
put together. Did you watch it with sound on mute or shall I recommend a visit to the nearest Hearing Aid center
Whatever. Enjoy the rest of the debate. Obviously I'm out numbered. I have a game to watch.
StevePerryHair wrote:Well I have friends sitting with me, and FB friends who say it didn't. This is the opinion of a melodic rock message board. That's why I'm out numbered.
for the MILLIONTH time, I was looking at the whole show. There was something wrong with the sound even for Usher. I was entertained by the dancing and lights and the dancing. I enjoyed Ushers part in particular. It's my opinion. I don't need hearing aids. But thanks!Behshad wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Well I have friends sitting with me, and FB friends who say it didn't. This is the opinion of a melodic rock message board. That's why I'm out numbered.
Y'all might get a group discount on these
StevePerryHair wrote:for the MILLIONTH time, I was looking at the whole show. There was something wrong with the sound even for Usher. I was entertained by the dancing and lights and the dancing. I enjoyed Ushers part in particular. It's my opinion. I don't need hearing aids. But thanks!Behshad wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Well I have friends sitting with me, and FB friends who say it didn't. This is the opinion of a melodic rock message board. That's why I'm out numbered.
Y'all might get a group discount on these
bluejeangirl76 wrote:No. I found a documentary on volcanoes on netflix. Needed back the IQ points that Fergie just killed. That halftime show made my brain feel gluey.
Rip Rokken wrote:bluejeangirl76 wrote:No. I found a documentary on volcanoes on netflix. Needed back the IQ points that Fergie just killed. That halftime show made my brain feel gluey.
Very smart.I watched Michael Ruppert's "Collapse", because I'd rather hear about the impending implosion of the planet's economic system than watch football and risk depression. I did catch the Captain America teaser trailer though, and it sounds like that may have been the highlight of the Super Bowl entertainment. Crap butchering of the National Anthem, crap half-time show... lol.
Black Eyed Peas underwhelm at halftime
In massive Cowboys Arena, the group appeared to be stiff
On second thought, maybe Usher should have been the headliner for the Super Bowl halftime show.
The superstar had only a brief cameo in the showcase, but his tightly choreographed moves and acrobatics marked the brief exhilarating moment of a surprisingly stale medley from the normally frenetic headliners, the Black Eyed Peas.
The Super Bowl performance was arguably the biggest stage yet for the quirky quartet, whose fusion of pop, dance and hip-hop have made them global superstars. But in the massive Cowboys Arena, the group appeared to be as stiff as frontman will.i.am's plastic hair hat.
It started out with a wow factor: will.i.am, Taboo, Fergie and apl.de.ap descended from atop the stadium, outfits glittering, bedazzled outfits, singing (with the help of auto-tune) the party anthem "I Gotta Feeling" with hundreds of dancers grooving in step on the field.
But the Peas didn't match the energy of the song; they seemed tentative, and tense. It didn't help that Fergie's mic didn't kick in until she was midway through her first verse.
If the explanation for the Peas' flatness was nerves, those nerves never settled, as they plodded through such songs as "Pump It" and "Boom Boom Pow." Technically, they were fine — Fergie's voice soared, the raps were performed right. They didn't excite. Even former Guns 'N Roses guitarist Slash seemed bored as he joined Fergie for a short snippet of "Sweet Child O' Mine," an unnecessary cameo that failed to add any sizzle to the set.
So it fell to Usher to breathe some life into the halftime show, and he didn't disappoint as he appeared in all white with a flank of dancers. Although Usher seemed to dance more of his No. 1 hit "OMG" with will.i.am than sing it, his syncopated moves and flips provided the energy jolt that the Peas lacked.
Even after Usher left, the Peas seemed a little more alive. They went back in their catalog and performed early hit "Where Is The Love," which segued to their latest "The Time (Dirty Bit)," an odd, dance reworking of "(I've Had) The Time of My Life" from the movie "Dirty Dancing." They ended as they began, reprising "I Gotta Feeling."
The choice of the Black Eyed Peas was intended to bring some youthful vigor back to the halftime show after the NFL — feeling burned by the infamous "wardrobe malfunction" of Janet Jackson with the aid of Justin Timberlake in 2004 — chose a string of safe, near-geriatric icons for the halftime for the next six years, ending on a low note with a much-maligned concert by The Who last year.
The Black Eyed Peas brought the youth, but little else. "I Gotta Feeling" the NFL will be looking to try and find a better balance in time for Indianapolis next year.
Seven Wishes wrote:"Abysmal? He's the most proactive President since Clinton, and he's bringing much-needed change for the better to a nation that has been tyrannized by the worst President since Hoover."- 7 Wishes on Pres. Obama
Good thing the game’s been interesting, because the ballyhooed halftime show featuring the Black Eyed Peas, much like the big-money commercials that debuted during the first two quarters, was positively underwhelming.
OK, sure, it sounded better than the Who did last year, and it was certainly more lively than the always static Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers were in 2008 (Bruce Springsteen in 2009 is another matter). Plus, unencumbered by instruments or even the need for a backing band, the Peas would automatically have more spectacle on their side. How else can they entertain? By letting apl.de.ap sing?
And still their entire hits medley — enhanced by futuristic costumes, Tron-esque dancers and lackluster cameos from Slash and Usher — seemed routine and predictable.
Going into it I was inclined to cut them plenty of slack: as the centerpiece of the first pop/soul/hip-hop extravaganza since the Janet Jackson-led Nipplegate debacle that overshadowed Super Bowl XXXVIII in 2004 — and the first non-legend in this particular spotlight in as many years — the quartet faced grumbling from the get-go and mounting expectations as kickoff neared.
Even as their performance began with (what else?) “I Gotta Feeling,” I was hopeful; the descent from the the top of Cowboys Stadium’s dome, enticingly conveyed by overhead camera work, had me hoping that we’d see something truly spectacular, even unexpected.
But then they assumed their usual positions, glittering in black and white outfits, and set about going through the same motions you’d find at any BEP show in any arena while on tour. Worse, their get-ups were distracting: I spent more time trying to figure out what will.i.am‘s clear skullcap was supposed to be — a space-age bicycle helmet? a new-era Devo wig? headgear for Data to wear on a Star Trek: Next Generation reunion episode? — than I did listening to what tumbled out of his Auto-Tuned mouth.
Tabu, perpetually the most useless Black Eyed Pea (note his halting nonsense during “Boom Boom Pow”), looked even sillier, with an electronic chest plate that changed images depending on the song (for instance, a bright red heart during “Where Is the Love?”).
As ever, Fergie remains the group’s saving grace, and her sparkling shoulder pads were a fitting touch. But she’s wailed with more ferocity in the past. And though it may have been a surprise to metalheads in Topeka, her brief segment with Slash (his trademark top hat here sequined) was old-hat; they’ve been cranking out that Guns N’ Roses chestnut “Sweet Child o’ Mine” in concert for years now, and she’s sung it much better before, with less Axl Rose affectation.
For his part, Slash might as well have been a robot — he served up his famous riff without moving or showing the slightest expression, then indulged a bit of standard-issue soloing before disappearing as fast as he surfaced.
No better was Usher, who I thought was a singer, no? Here he barely opened his mouth during “OMG” (his hit, not the Peas’), and though he can be a mesmerizing dancer almost worthy of comparison to Michael Jackson, the only move that impressed was when he leapt over will.i.am and landed in a James Brown splits.
Five seconds of wow out of a dozen minutes? Give me Prince blazing on guitar in the rain any day.
Which brings me to the bit that political pundits with nothing better to discuss may natter on about come Monday morning: will.i.am’s lyrical change-up for the first verse of “Where Is the Love?”: “In America we need to get things straight / Obama, let’s get these kids educated / Create jobs so the country stays stimulated.”
Why can I already hear Rush Limbaugh twisting that to mean the president’s support base has eroded?
But again, at least we’ve seen some solid football — as I write this it’s a four-point game again. And Keith Urban‘s pregame tailgate tunes and tattoo-flashing were appealing; Maroon 5 a little less so.
That’s definitely made up for Glee star Lea Michele‘s histrionic “America the Beautiful,” undoubtedly pre-recorded) … Christina Aguilera‘s almost-soulful but ultimately over-the-top and flubbed rendering of The National Anthem (it’s “O’er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming,” Xtina, not a rehash of the second line) … and not one but two lame commercials featuring Eminem, who I thought was better than that.
Seven Wishes wrote:"Abysmal? He's the most proactive President since Clinton, and he's bringing much-needed change for the better to a nation that has been tyrannized by the worst President since Hoover."- 7 Wishes on Pres. Obama
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