R.I.P. Clarence...

[JustMyStyle]

so sad......
loved the man's sax playing and his singing...

R.I.P. Big Man

[Babyblue]

FIFTY YEARS IN THE FUTURE:

A guitarist dies and is quite please to find that he ends up standing before the pearly gates of Guitar Heaven. St. Peter shows him in, and gives him a guided tour.

"This is Stevie Ray's room here..." says Peter, and the guitarist is saying "Wow! Stevie Ray!"
"And this is Jimi's room..." and the guitarist is totally over the moon.

Finally Peter shows the guitarist to his own room. Before Peter leaves, he says to him, "I have to ask. Is Yngwie here?" Peter shakes his head sadly and says "I'm afraid he went... the "other" way..."

The guitarist is disappointed but goes to his room and tries to get some sleep. He is woken up in the middle of the night by someone playing a really fast harmonic minor lick - and it sounds just like Yngwie. He presses his ear to the wall, and listens more closely. Someone in the next room is playing really fast neo-classical shreds through what sounds very much like a vintage Strat. The guitarist is confused as it sounds so much like Yngwie. The next day he tells Peter that he is almost certain that Yngwie's in the next room.

Peter pulls him to one side, and whispers into his ear, "Shhh.... don't tell anyone. That's God. He thinks he's Yngwie Malmsteen"

Yngwie is awesome

[Tito]

I can almost hear a tune from the other side. Gary Moore , Marcel Jacob and Big Man jamming away with Dio on Vox.

I think "almost" is being a little generous. No disrespect, but if Marcel tried getting on the stage with them, they would say, "Who the fuck are you? Security get this fan/guy off the stage." Again, no disrespect to the dead, but we need to still keep it real.

[Behshad]

I can almost hear a tune from the other side. Gary Moore , Marcel Jacob and Big Man jamming away with Dio on Vox.

I think "almost" is being a little generous. No disrespect, but if Marcel tried getting on the stage with them, they would say, "Who the fuck are you? Security get this fan/guy off the stage." Again, no disrespect to the dead, but we need to still keep it real.

You think your JSS-hate should go this far to disrespect the dead , that's fine and dandy but it just reflects what kind of person YOU are.
I'm sure all those musicians would show a lot more respect and judge him by SKILLS and TALENT , and not album sales .

[RedWingFan]

I can almost hear a tune from the other side. Gary Moore , Marcel Jacob and Big Man jamming away with Dio on Vox.

and maybe Lennon, Harrison, Hendrix, Janis, Mercury, Ronson, Bolan, Holly, Bopper and Valens, Bon Scott and maybe Michael and Elvis!

Don't forget Stevie Ray!

Man....the older we get, the better the concerts are going to be in heaven....

You know Stephen King wrote a short story about this called, "You Know They Have Got a Hell of a Band" from his "Nightmares & Dreamscapes" book.

[Maui Tom]

Better enjoy ALL the bands from your past/present,...this is the stuff thats happening.....losing em....a little faster than I had hoped too....nothing is forever......

[Tito]

I can almost hear a tune from the other side. Gary Moore , Marcel Jacob and Big Man jamming away with Dio on Vox.

I think "almost" is being a little generous. No disrespect, but if Marcel tried getting on the stage with them, they would say, "Who the fuck are you? Security get this fan/guy off the stage." Again, no disrespect to the dead, but we need to still keep it real.

You think your JSS-hate should go this far to disrespect the dead , that's fine and dandy but it just reflects what kind of person YOU are.
I'm sure all those musicians would show a lot more respect and judge him by SKILLS and TALENT , and not album sales .

I'm not disrespecting him. I'm calling you out for your over-love of people.

[StevePerryHair]

I can almost hear a tune from the other side. Gary Moore , Marcel Jacob and Big Man jamming away with Dio on Vox.

I think "almost" is being a little generous. No disrespect, but if Marcel tried getting on the stage with them, they would say, "Who the fuck are you? Security get this fan/guy off the stage." Again, no disrespect to the dead, but we need to still keep it real.

You think your JSS-hate should go this far to disrespect the dead , that's fine and dandy but it just reflects what kind of person YOU are.
I'm sure all those musicians would show a lot more respect and judge him by SKILLS and TALENT , and not album sales .

I'm not disrespecting him. I'm calling you out for your over-love of people.

You know Tito, you just don't know when it's better to just shut up.

[Behshad]

I can almost hear a tune from the other side. Gary Moore , Marcel Jacob and Big Man jamming away with Dio on Vox.

I think "almost" is being a little generous. No disrespect, but if Marcel tried getting on the stage with them, they would say, "Who the fuck are you? Security get this fan/guy off the stage." Again, no disrespect to the dead, but we need to still keep it real.

You think your JSS-hate should go this far to disrespect the dead , that's fine and dandy but it just reflects what kind of person YOU are.
I'm sure all those musicians would show a lot more respect and judge him by SKILLS and TALENT , and not album sales .

I'm not disrespecting him. I'm calling you out for your over-love of people.

And you gain what from it ?!
You're showing your hate for people. Even after theyre dead.
I rather "over-love" than "over-hate"

And Marcels talents are at the same level as the musicians mentioned above.

[verslibre]

I can almost hear a tune from the other side. Gary Moore , Marcel Jacob and Big Man jamming away with Dio on Vox.

I think "almost" is being a little generous. No disrespect, but if Marcel tried getting on the stage with them, they would say, "Who the fuck are you? Security get this fan/guy off the stage." Again, no disrespect to the dead, but we need to still keep it real.

Why are you being a tool? In Heaven everybody knows everybody, hence no such thing as "underground musician."

[Tito]

Alright, I take it back. I apologize.

But, for the record I was not disrespecting him or taking a shot at him. I still apologize though.

[portland]

I can almost hear a tune from the other side. Gary Moore , Marcel Jacob and Big Man jamming away with Dio on Vox.

I think "almost" is being a little generous. No disrespect, but if Marcel tried getting on the stage with them, they would say, "Who the fuck are you? Security get this fan/guy off the stage." Again, no disrespect to the dead, but we need to still keep it real.

You think your JSS-hate should go this far to disrespect the dead , that's fine and dandy but it just reflects what kind of person YOU are.
I'm sure all those musicians would show a lot more respect and judge him by SKILLS and TALENT , and not album sales .

I'm not disrespecting him. I'm calling you out for your over-love of people.

You know Tito, you just don't know when it's better to just shut up.

It seems to happen quite often here.

[JRNYMAN]

Definitely a huge loss to the music world. His style and sound were unique and instantly recognizable. Always liked his music as well as his personality. Truly one of the greats.
R.I.P. Clarence.

[Blueskies]

Rest in peace, Clarence.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knVbfhmME1g

[Saint John]

Alright, I take it back.

No need to.

I apologize.

See above.

[Behshad]

Alright, I take it back.

No need to.

I apologize.

See above.

(as usual) Youre a day late and a dollar short

Even Tito realized that taking cheap shots at dead musicians doesnt give him the same pleasure as picking on Soto

[Saint John]

Alright, I take it back.

No need to.

I apologize.

See above.

(as usual) Youre a day late and a dollar short

Even Tito realized that taking cheap shots at dead musicians doesnt give him the same pleasure as picking on Soto

He didn't take a "cheap shot" at anyone. He pointed out the difference between the musicians used in the same context. The context would have had you believe that MJ was as good or renowned as John Entwhistle, Chris Squire, Geddy Lee, Jack Bruce, Victor Wooten or Les Claypool. And he wasn't/isn't. So Soto's name was dragged into it, Tito was hit over the head with the death card and it coerced an apology. I wouldn't have apologized and don't think he should have either.

[StevePerryHair]

Alright, I take it back.

No need to.

I apologize.

See above.

(as usual) Youre a day late and a dollar short

Even Tito realized that taking cheap shots at dead musicians doesnt give him the same pleasure as picking on Soto

He didn't take a "cheap shot" at anyone. He pointed out the difference between the musicians used in the same context. The context would have had you believe that MJ was as good or renowned as John Entwhistle, Chris Squire, Geddy Lee, Jack Bruce, Victor Wooten or Les Claypool. And he wasn't/isn't. So Soto's name was dragged into it, Tito was hit over the head with the death card and it coerced an apology. I wouldn't have apologized and don't think he should have either.

For me it wasn't about disrespecting the dead. It was more being sensitive to the living here, and their losses. And also thinking heaven can be whatever anyone wants to wish it will be. Why argue over that. Just seems weird.

[Behshad]

Alright, I take it back.

No need to.

I apologize.

See above.

(as usual) Youre a day late and a dollar short

Even Tito realized that taking cheap shots at dead musicians doesnt give him the same pleasure as picking on Soto

He didn't take a "cheap shot" at anyone. He pointed out the difference between the musicians used in the same context. The context would have had you believe that MJ was as good or renowned as John Entwhistle, Chris Squire, Geddy Lee, Jack Bruce, Victor Wooten or Les Claypool. And he wasn't/isn't. So Soto's name was dragged into it, Tito was hit over the head with the death card and it coerced an apology. I wouldn't have apologized and don't think he should have either.

Interesting. First of he took my list way out of context on purpose just trying to be a dick.
How come he picked out Marcel from the list and not Gary Moore? Simply because he knew that Marcel was a personal friend of mine and his loss was and is painful to this day.

How do you define how good musicians? Even if you go by sales, Marcel was involved in Europe and not only played with them but also wrote some songs and last I checked , Europe has sold over 20 million albums worldwide, so he wins in that category


You two are known for being dickheads on purpose here to stirr shit, and thats all good and dandy, but for you, who I consider a friend, to try to take cheap shots like that in a thread dedicated to Clemons, thats a bit disappointing.

[Deb]

He didn't take a "cheap shot" at anyone. He pointed out the difference between the musicians used in the same context. The context would have had you believe that MJ was as good or renowned as John Entwhistle, Chris Squire, Geddy Lee, Jack Bruce, Victor Wooten or Les Claypool. And he wasn't/isn't. So Soto's name was dragged into it, Tito was hit over the head with the death card and it coerced an apology. I wouldn't have apologized and don't think he should have either.

For me it wasn't about disrespecting the dead. It was more being sensitive to the living here, and their losses. And also thinking heaven can be whatever anyone wants to wish it will be. Why argue over that. Just seems weird.

But who the hell made Dan god of who can be deemed talented enough to be lumped in with anybody else. There is people out there just as talented and sometimes more so, as some players that have had more exposure/marketing.

[Saint John]

For me it wasn't about disrespecting the dead. It was more being sensitive to the living here, and their losses. And also thinking heaven can be whatever anyone wants to wish it will be. Why argue over that. Just seems weird.

Seems like the task of logically proving that the original context was appropriate was simply too hard, so Soto and the death card were pulled out. And that doesn't warrant an apology. As far as "being more sensitive to the living here goes, I think there would have to be an attack or defamatory post before one could argue that. And there wasn't.

[Behshad]

For me it wasn't about disrespecting the dead. It was more being sensitive to the living here, and their losses. And also thinking heaven can be whatever anyone wants to wish it will be. Why argue over that. Just seems weird.

Seems like the task of logically proving that the original context was appropriate was simply too hard,.

Demanding a logical explanation of who can jam with whom in someone's wish list afterlife . Good one Dan, good one
Well I tried my best to explain it to you above, but somehow Im pretty sure you still wont get it and rather keep hijacking a thread that was meant for anything BUT arguments

[StevePerryHair]

For me it wasn't about disrespecting the dead. It was more being sensitive to the living here, and their losses. And also thinking heaven can be whatever anyone wants to wish it will be. Why argue over that. Just seems weird.

Seems like the task of logically proving that the original context was appropriate was simply too hard, so Soto and the death card were pulled out. And that doesn't warrant an apology. As far as "being more sensitive to the living here goes, I think there would have to be an attack or defamatory post before one could argue that. And there wasn't.

Sensitive not as in defaming dan. Sometimes it's an honor thing. You know, like when I was told not to tease people about their mom's, in case one died. That kind of thing.

[Saint John]

How come he picked out Marcel from the list and not Gary Moore?

Because the general music public knows who Gary Moore is, would be my guess.

Simply because he knew that Marcel was a personal friend of mine and his loss was and is painful to this day.

You're inferring quite a lot about a person that you don't know anything about, and I think you're wrong.

You two are known for being dickheads on purpose here to stirr shit, and thats all good and dandy, but for you, who I consider a friend, to try to take cheap shots like that in a thread dedicated to Clemons, thats a bit disappointing.

Oh, so now I'm throwing cheap shots, too? Please point them out.

[Saint John]

For me it wasn't about disrespecting the dead. It was more being sensitive to the living here, and their losses. And also thinking heaven can be whatever anyone wants to wish it will be. Why argue over that. Just seems weird.

Seems like the task of logically proving that the original context was appropriate was simply too hard,.

Demanding a logical explanation of who can jam with whom in someone's wish list afterlife . Good one Dan, good one

Perhaps that should have been your answer then, rather than pulling out Soto and the death card. But you didn't.

[Behshad]

For me it wasn't about disrespecting the dead. It was more being sensitive to the living here, and their losses. And also thinking heaven can be whatever anyone wants to wish it will be. Why argue over that. Just seems weird.

Seems like the task of logically proving that the original context was appropriate was simply too hard,.

Demanding a logical explanation of who can jam with whom in someone's wish list afterlife . Good one Dan, good one

Perhaps that should have been your answer then, rather than pulling out Soto and the death card. But you didn't.

Id like your LOGICAL explanation on how you & Tito think the wish-band-audition takes place in afterlife .

And it wasnt about pulling the Soto card. Tito knows the connection between Soto and MJ, so of course he would take that route. You both are very transparent when it comes to that , even to the point you will start arguments in a thread like this. But at least he realized that and apologized and moved on.

[Saint John]

For me it wasn't about disrespecting the dead. It was more being sensitive to the living here, and their losses. And also thinking heaven can be whatever anyone wants to wish it will be. Why argue over that. Just seems weird.

Seems like the task of logically proving that the original context was appropriate was simply too hard,.

Demanding a logical explanation of who can jam with whom in someone's wish list afterlife . Good one Dan, good one

Perhaps that should have been your answer then, rather than pulling out Soto and the death card. But you didn't.

Id like your LOGICAL explanation on how you & Tito think the wish-band-audition takes place in afterlife .

And it wasnt about pulling the Soto card. Tito knows the connection between Soto and MJ, so of course he would take that route. You both are very transparent when it comes to that , even to the point you will start arguments in a thread like this. But at least he realized that and apologized and moved on.

If you re-read your initial post responding to his initial post you'll see that you accused him of hating Soto and disrespecting the dead. And I don't think either of those accusations is true. And, trust me, I have known him for 19 years, which I'm going to assume is a lot longer than you have.

[Behshad]

For me it wasn't about disrespecting the dead. It was more being sensitive to the living here, and their losses. And also thinking heaven can be whatever anyone wants to wish it will be. Why argue over that. Just seems weird.

Seems like the task of logically proving that the original context was appropriate was simply too hard,.

Demanding a logical explanation of who can jam with whom in someone's wish list afterlife . Good one Dan, good one

Perhaps that should have been your answer then, rather than pulling out Soto and the death card. But you didn't.

Id like your LOGICAL explanation on how you & Tito think the wish-band-audition takes place in afterlife .

And it wasnt about pulling the Soto card. Tito knows the connection between Soto and MJ, so of course he would take that route. You both are very transparent when it comes to that , even to the point you will start arguments in a thread like this. But at least he realized that and apologized and moved on.

If you re-read your initial post responding to his initial post you'll see that you accused him of hating Soto and disrespecting the dead. And I don't think either of those accusations is true. And, trust me, I have known him for 19 years, which I'm going to assume is a lot longer than you have.

He hates Soto = Fact . you may have known him for 19 years, but it takes 19 minutes to do a search on his posts here to put 2 and 2 together

[Saint John]

For me it wasn't about disrespecting the dead. It was more being sensitive to the living here, and their losses. And also thinking heaven can be whatever anyone wants to wish it will be. Why argue over that. Just seems weird.

Seems like the task of logically proving that the original context was appropriate was simply too hard,.

Demanding a logical explanation of who can jam with whom in someone's wish list afterlife . Good one Dan, good one

Perhaps that should have been your answer then, rather than pulling out Soto and the death card. But you didn't.

Id like your LOGICAL explanation on how you & Tito think the wish-band-audition takes place in afterlife .

And it wasnt about pulling the Soto card. Tito knows the connection between Soto and MJ, so of course he would take that route. You both are very transparent when it comes to that , even to the point you will start arguments in a thread like this. But at least he realized that and apologized and moved on.

If you re-read your initial post responding to his initial post you'll see that you accused him of hating Soto and disrespecting the dead. And I don't think either of those accusations is true. And, trust me, I have known him for 19 years, which I'm going to assume is a lot longer than you have.

He hates Soto = Fact . you may have known him for 19 years, but it takes 19 minutes to do a search on his posts here to put 2 and 2 together

Well, I guess I can't argue with a "fact" and nothing more needs to be said.

[Behshad]

For me it wasn't about disrespecting the dead. It was more being sensitive to the living here, and their losses. And also thinking heaven can be whatever anyone wants to wish it will be. Why argue over that. Just seems weird.

Seems like the task of logically proving that the original context was appropriate was simply too hard,.

Demanding a logical explanation of who can jam with whom in someone's wish list afterlife . Good one Dan, good one

Perhaps that should have been your answer then, rather than pulling out Soto and the death card. But you didn't.

Id like your LOGICAL explanation on how you & Tito think the wish-band-audition takes place in afterlife .

And it wasnt about pulling the Soto card. Tito knows the connection between Soto and MJ, so of course he would take that route. You both are very transparent when it comes to that , even to the point you will start arguments in a thread like this. But at least he realized that and apologized and moved on.

If you re-read your initial post responding to his initial post you'll see that you accused him of hating Soto and disrespecting the dead. And I don't think either of those accusations is true. And, trust me, I have known him for 19 years, which I'm going to assume is a lot longer than you have.

He hates Soto = Fact . you may have known him for 19 years, but it takes 19 minutes to do a search on his posts here to put 2 and 2 together

Well, I guess I can't argue with a "fact" and nothing more needs to be said.

Good boy