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Postby FinnFreak » Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:27 am

Norway shooter traumatizes nation, up to 98 dead


6:14pm EDT

By Gwladys Fouche and Victoria Klesty


SUNDVOLLEN, Norway (Reuters) - Norwegian police searched for more victims and a possible second gunman on Saturday after a suspected right-wing zealot killed up to 98 people in a shooting spree and bomb attack.

Anders Behring Breivik, 32, was arrested after Friday's massacre of young people on a tiny forested holiday island that was hosting the annual summer camp for the youth wing of Norway's ruling Labour party.

Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg, sharing the shocked mood in this normally safe, quiet country of 4.8 million, said: "A paradise island has been transformed into a hell."

Breivik, a Norwegian, was also charged with the bombing of Oslo's government district that killed seven people hours earlier. If convicted on the terrorism charges, he would face a maximum of 21 years in jail, police said.

Breivik had belonged to an anti-immigration party and wrote blogs attacking multi-culturalism and Islam, but police said he had been unknown to them.

A video on the YouTube website promoting a fight against Islam apparently shows pictures of Breivik, wearing a wetsuit and pointing an automatic weapon.

The district attacked in Oslo is the heart of power in Norway. But security is not tight in a country unused to such violence and better known for awarding the Nobel Peace Prize and mediating in conflicts, including the Middle East and Sri Lanka.

Home-grown anti-government militants have struck elsewhere in the past, notably in the United States, where Timothy McVeigh killed 168 people with a truck bomb in Oklahoma City in 1995.

Witnesses said the gunman, wearing a police uniform, went on a prolonged shooting orgy on Utoeya island northwest of Oslo, picking off his prey unchallenged as youngsters scattered in panic or jumped in the lake to swim for the mainland.

A police SWAT team eventually arrived from Oslo, 30 km (19 miles) away, to seize Breivik after nearly 90 minutes of firing, acting police chief Sveinung Sponheim told a news conference.

"We don't know yet" if he acted alone, Sponheim said, adding that Breivik had surrendered immediately and had confessed. He defended the time it took to arrive, saying there were delays with getting a boat.

"THIS IS PURE EVIL"

Sponheim said 85 people were known to have died in the shooting and seven in the Oslo bomb blast. The overall death toll could reach 98 if some missing people proved to have died.

Police gave no figure for the number wounded in Norway's worst violence since World War Two.

On Saturday night, the prime minister toured damaged buildings in central Oslo and said that he could not rule out that more bodies might be inside.

"There are still people missing ... one cannot rule out anything. This is evil. This is pure evil," he said. A chunk of debris fell off a building as he stood in the street.

Labour Party youth member Erik Kursetgjerde described the panic on Utoeya when the gunman began shooting.

"I heard screams. I heard people begging for their lives and I heard shots. He just blew them away. I was certain I was going to die," Kursetgjerde, 18, told Reuters outside a hotel in the nearby town of Sundvollen, where many survivors were taken.

"People ran everywhere. They panicked and climbed into trees. People got trampled."

The killer, dressed as a policeman, "would tell people to come over: 'It's OK, you're safe, we're coming to help you.' And then I saw about 20 people come toward him and he shot them at close range," he said.

Kursetgjerde said he ran and hid between cliffs, then swam into the lake and nearly drowned. "Someone (in a boat) rescued me. They saved my life."

Norwegian NRK television showed blurred pictures taken from a helicopter of a man, apparently in police uniform, standing with his arm outstretched amid numerous victims, some prone on the rocky shore, others floating in the water.

"This lasted for hours," Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Stoere told a news conference, describing the killings on the island northwest of Oslo where about 600 young people had gathered.

The bloodbath was believed to be the deadliest attack by a lone gunman anywhere in modern times.

Police combed the island and the lake, even using a mini-submarine to search the water, police inspector Bjoerne Erik Sem-Jacobsen told Reuters. "We don't know how many people were on the island, therefore we have to search further."

U.S. President Barack Obama called Stoltenberg on Saturday to offer U.S. condolences over the killings and pledged assistance if needed.

The suspect, tall and blond, owned an organic farming company called Breivik Geofarm, which a supply firm said he had used to buy fertilizer -- possibly to make the Oslo bomb. Forensic experts scoured the facility for evidence on Saturday.

"These are goods that were delivered on May 4," Oddny Estenstad, a spokeswoman at farm supply chain Felleskjoepet Agri, told Reuters. "It was 6 tonnes of fertilizer, which is a small, normal order for a standard agricultural producer."

It was not clear if Breivik, a gun club member according to local media, had more than one weapon or whether he had stocked ammunition on Utoeya, where police found explosives.

Initial speculation after the Oslo blast had focused on Islamist militant groups, but it appears that only Breivik -- and perhaps unidentified associates -- was involved.

FAR-RIGHT VIEWS

Officials pointed to Breivik's far-right views. "I think it's appropriate to underline that politically motivated violence that Norway has seen in the modern age has come from the extreme rightist side," Stoere, the foreign minister, said.

Breivik's Facebook page was blocked, but a cached version describes a conservative Christian from Oslo.

The profile veers between references to lofty political philosophers and gory popular films, television shows and video games. The Facebook account appears to have been set up on July 17. The site lists no "friends" or social connections.

Breivik's profile lists interests including hunting, political and stock analysis, with tastes in music ranging from classical to trance, a hypnotic form of dance music.

The Norwegian daily Verdens Gang quoted a friend as saying Breivik became a right-wing extremist in his late 20s. It said he expressed strong nationalistic views in online debates and had been a strong opponent of multi-culturalism.

Survivors described scenes of terror as the gunman stalked his victims, many of whom were confused by his police uniform.

"It was total chaos ... I think several lost their lives as they tried to get over to the mainland," said Jorgen Benone.

"I saw people being shot. I tried to sit as quietly as possible. I was hiding behind some stones. I saw him once, just 20, 30 meters away from me. I thought 'I'm terrified for my life', I thought of all the people I love.

Stoltenberg flew by helicopter to a hotel in the nearby town of Sundvollen where many survivors were being counseled and interviewed by police. Relatives converged on the hotel to reunite with their loved ones or to identify their dead.

"A whole world is thinking of them," the prime minister said, his voice cracking with emotion.

Norwegian King Harald, Queen Sonja and Crown Prince Haakon also visited the hotel to comfort survivors and their families.

About 10 policemen guarded Breivik's registered address in a four-storey red brick building in west Oslo.



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Postby FinnFreak » Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:28 am

fredinator wrote:21 years, maximum? How do you feel about that? He looks barely 21 himself--that would mean he would be out and hardened beyond belief before he's 50.. 21 years is almost unbelievable--he killed that many people and that's the max?


Yep. That's it.


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Postby Don » Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:31 am

fredinator wrote:21 years, maximum? How do you feel about that? He looks barely 21 himself--that would mean he would be out and hardened beyond belief before he's 50.. 21 years is almost unbelievable--he killed that many people and that's the max?


Forvaring will most definitely come into play here. It basically enables the indefinite enforcement of continued incarceration after the completion of the initial 21 year sentence if the guy is still deemed a threat to society.
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Postby fredinator » Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:40 am

It would make sense thank heaven to have an ability to forvare. They probably ought to forvare him onto a gurney--usually I don't think or say stuff like that but this dude would deserve it... His eyes in the pic look stone-cold.
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Postby FinnFreak » Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:45 am

Life is not enough, eternity is closer to fair... IMO.


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Postby FinnFreak » Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:09 am

Fact Finder wrote:The manifesto the dude put out is 1500 pages long, but it does contain this little nugget....


“So what do I do when I’m not working? I’m in the middle of another steroid cycle at the moment, training hard to exceed my 92 kg record from July. I’m currently at 90 kg and hope to reach at least 95 kg. Perhaps ill even reach 100 kg before I end the cycle in 4 week’s time!:-) I have a more or less perfect body at the moment and I’m as happy as I have ever been.”




'roid rage?????


Could very well be what his defence might base their case on...


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Postby Babyblue » Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:39 pm

FinnFreak wrote:He has now admitted the Oslo centre bombing & Utöya island massacre, planned them for years, calling them "horrible, but necessary"...

He will get a maximum of 21 years in prison.


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WHAT???????? Why not life???????? I say just kill him and get it over with. :twisted: :evil:
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Postby FinnFreak » Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:59 pm

Babyblue wrote:
FinnFreak wrote:He has now admitted the Oslo centre bombing & Utöya island massacre, planned them for years, calling them "horrible, but necessary"...

He will get a maximum of 21 years in prison.


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WHAT???????? Why not life???????? I say just kill him and get it over with. :twisted: :evil:


Europe is a continent free of the death penalty in practice, all states but Russia, which has entered a moratorium, having ratified the Sixth Protocol to the European Convention on Human Rights, with the sole exception of Belarus, which is not a member of the Council of Europe.

By law it is possible to receive life imprisonment in Norway, but there are no examples of such after the latest correctional law passed in 2002. There are basically two types of maximum penalty laws:

1. The maximum determinate penalty is 21 years imprisonment, but only a small percentage of prisoners serve more than 14 years. Prisoners will typically get unsupervised parole for weekends etc. after serving ⅓ of their sentence (a maximum of 7 years) and can receive early release after serving ⅔ of their sentence (a maximum of 14 years).

2. The maximum indeterminate penalty, called "containment" (Norwegian: forvaring), is also set at 21 years imprisonment, and the prisoner is required to serve at least 10 years before becoming eligible for parole. "Containment" is used when the prisoner is deemed a danger to society and there is a great chance of committing violent crimes in the future. If the prisoner is still considered dangerous after serving the original sentence, the prisoner can receive up to five years additional containment.

If the additional time is served, and the offender is still considered dangerous, a prisoner can continue to receive up to five years additional containment, and this, in theory, could result in actual life imprisonment. However, the offender can be paroled or released at any time if it is determined that the offender is no longer a danger to society.


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Postby conversationpc » Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:29 am

FinnFreak wrote:Europe is a continent free of the death penalty in practice, all states but Russia, which has entered a moratorium, having ratified the Sixth Protocol to the European Convention on Human Rights, with the sole exception of Belarus, which is not a member of the Council of Europe.

By law it is possible to receive life imprisonment in Norway, but there are no examples of such after the latest correctional law passed in 2002. There are basically two types of maximum penalty laws:

1. The maximum determinate penalty is 21 years imprisonment, but only a small percentage of prisoners serve more than 14 years. Prisoners will typically get unsupervised parole for weekends etc. after serving ⅓ of their sentence (a maximum of 7 years) and can receive early release after serving ⅔ of their sentence (a maximum of 14 years).

2. The maximum indeterminate penalty, called "containment" (Norwegian: forvaring), is also set at 21 years imprisonment, and the prisoner is required to serve at least 10 years before becoming eligible for parole. "Containment" is used when the prisoner is deemed a danger to society and there is a great chance of committing violent crimes in the future. If the prisoner is still considered dangerous after serving the original sentence, the prisoner can receive up to five years additional containment.

If the additional time is served, and the offender is still considered dangerous, a prisoner can continue to receive up to five years additional containment, and this, in theory, could result in actual life imprisonment. However, the offender can be paroled or released at any time if it is determined that the offender is no longer a danger to society.


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That's too bad. Only 21 years a heinous crime? That's not anywhere near enough punishment.
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Postby FinnFreak » Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:04 am

The judge denied the shooter of his soapbox:


(Reuters) - A judge ordered eight weeks detention on Monday for the Norwegian man who has admitted a bombing and shooting massacre that killed about 90 people and who claimed in court to have two more groups of collaborators.

Custody, in line with prosecutors' request, will allow them to investigate the case against Anders Behring Breivik, 32, an anti-Islamic zealot who has previously claimed sole responsibility for Friday's attacks. The custody can be extended.

Judge Kim Heger said that Breivik would be locked up alone with no incoming letters, media nor visitors except for his lawyer. A trial could be a year away.

"The accused has made statements today that require further investigation, including that 'there are two more cells in our organization," Heger told a news conference.

Breivik told the court that he acted to save Europe from Islam. He had previously said he had acted alone.


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Postby Babyblue » Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:00 am

[quote="FinnFreak"]The judge denied the shooter of his soapbox:


(Reuters) - A judge ordered eight weeks detention on Monday for the Norwegian man who has admitted a bombing and shooting massacre that killed about 90 people and who claimed in court to have two more groups of collaborators.

Custody, in line with prosecutors' request, will allow them to investigate the case against Anders Behring Breivik, 32, an anti-Islamic zealot who has previously claimed sole responsibility for Friday's attacks. The custody can be extended.

Judge Kim Heger said that Breivik would be locked up alone with no incoming letters, media nor visitors except for his lawyer. A trial could be a year away.

"The accused has made statements today that require further investigation, including that 'there are two more cells in our organization," Heger told a news conference.
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Their is no way this fool acted alone :twisted: I hope they can find them before thay do it again.
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Postby Behshad » Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:25 am

Anders Behring Breivik, the confessed bomber and shooter in this horrendous act, was not motivated by the teachings of Islam, but by the teachings of those who oppose Islam.

A 1,500-page manifesto that appears to be written by Breivik is an anti-Islamic tirade



Guess IdiotSteveo will frame this guy's picture and see him as his hero now :roll:
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Postby SF-Dano » Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:07 am

Fact Finder wrote:The manifesto the dude put out is 1500 pages long, but it does contain this little nugget....


“So what do I do when I’m not working? I’m in the middle of another steroid cycle at the moment, training hard to exceed my 92 kg record from July. I’m currently at 90 kg and hope to reach at least 95 kg. Perhaps ill even reach 100 kg before I end the cycle in 4 week’s time!:-) I have a more or less perfect body at the moment and I’m as happy as I have ever been.”




'roid rage?????


Well from what I have read, he had this in the works for quite some time (years). Purchasing, building, plotting, etc. However, the roids may have been the catalyst that made him actually put the plan in action now.
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Postby FinnFreak » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:40 am

"Norway will fight violence with openness and democracy"


Prime Minister of Norway, Jens Stoltenberg's statement:


"The horrific and brutal attacks were a national tragedy and attack on our values of openness and democracy. The final death toll is not yet known, but the magnitude is hard to comprehend. The priority this week is to care for the wounded and those who have lost loved ones.

It has been great to see the strong response from Norwegian people.

My proudest moment was when the Norwegian people went out on the streets and so clearly manifested their message of tolerance and democracy in the face of violence on Monday night. But that was not my proudest moment, that was pride in the people of Norway.

The security services used all available resources to combat the attacks. We will not be intimidated or threatened by these attacks. The aim of these attacks is to spread panic. We will not let that happen. We will stand by our values. Norway is an open society. Only through open debate will we defeat violent ideologies. The Norwegian response to violence is more openness and more democracy."




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