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Postby Seven Wishes2 » Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:28 pm

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Boomchild makes perfect sense. Open your eyes. Hitler was a horrible person in the end, but that was not who people saw in the beginning. People must keep watch on the fact that Obama, in the end, may not be who he seemed in the beginning either.


Do you people really believe this bullshit? Or are you just regurgitating? Come on. Obama's barely been passable as commander-in-chief, but he does NOT hate America, and his biggest crime is being black.

Boomchild, people like you scare the shit out of me.
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Postby Memorex » Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:35 pm

Seven Wishes wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Boomchild makes perfect sense. Open your eyes. Hitler was a horrible person in the end, but that was not who people saw in the beginning. People must keep watch on the fact that Obama, in the end, may not be who he seemed in the beginning either.


Do you people really believe this bullshit? Or are you just regurgitating? Come on. Obama's barely been passable as commander-in-chief, but he does NOT hate America, and his biggest crime is being black.

Boomchild, people like you scare the shit out of me.


It is not a crime to be black. But it should be a crime to insinuate that people with legitimate complaints only have those complaints because he's black.
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Postby tater1977 » Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:41 pm

Memorex wrote:
Seven Wishes wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Boomchild makes perfect sense. Open your eyes. Hitler was a horrible person in the end, but that was not who people saw in the beginning. People must keep watch on the fact that Obama, in the end, may not be who he seemed in the beginning either.


Do you people really believe this bullshit? Or are you just regurgitating? Come on. Obama's barely been passable as commander-in-chief, but he does NOT hate America, and his biggest crime is being black.

Boomchild, people like you scare the shit out of me.


It is not a crime to be black. But it should be a crime to insinuate that people with legitimate complaints only have those complaints because he's black.


Obama is 1/2 white also.. He's just a poor leader ...with poor leadershisp skills...
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Postby Rick » Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:20 pm

Memorex wrote:
Seven Wishes wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Boomchild makes perfect sense. Open your eyes. Hitler was a horrible person in the end, but that was not who people saw in the beginning. People must keep watch on the fact that Obama, in the end, may not be who he seemed in the beginning either.


Do you people really believe this bullshit? Or are you just regurgitating? Come on. Obama's barely been passable as commander-in-chief, but he does NOT hate America, and his biggest crime is being black.

Boomchild, people like you scare the shit out of me.


It is not a crime to be black. But it should be a crime to insinuate that people with legitimate complaints only have those complaints because he's black.


I very much agree with this. People that claim that legitimate complaints are racially motivated are ignorant.
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Postby steveo777 » Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:24 pm

Rick wrote:
Memorex wrote:
Seven Wishes wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Boomchild makes perfect sense. Open your eyes. Hitler was a horrible person in the end, but that was not who people saw in the beginning. People must keep watch on the fact that Obama, in the end, may not be who he seemed in the beginning either.


Do you people really believe this bullshit? Or are you just regurgitating? Come on. Obama's barely been passable as commander-in-chief, but he does NOT hate America, and his biggest crime is being black.

Boomchild, people like you scare the shit out of me.


It is not a crime to be black. But it should be a crime to insinuate that people with legitimate complaints only have those complaints because he's black.


I very much agree with this. People that claim that legitimate complaints are racially motivated are ignorant.


I would have never liked Richard Pryor, had I known he was black. :lol: :wink: 8)
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Postby Rick » Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:35 pm

steveo777 wrote:
Rick wrote:
Memorex wrote:
Seven Wishes wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Boomchild makes perfect sense. Open your eyes. Hitler was a horrible person in the end, but that was not who people saw in the beginning. People must keep watch on the fact that Obama, in the end, may not be who he seemed in the beginning either.


Do you people really believe this bullshit? Or are you just regurgitating? Come on. Obama's barely been passable as commander-in-chief, but he does NOT hate America, and his biggest crime is being black.

Boomchild, people like you scare the shit out of me.


It is not a crime to be black. But it should be a crime to insinuate that people with legitimate complaints only have those complaints because he's black.


I very much agree with this. People that claim that legitimate complaints are racially motivated are ignorant.


I would have never liked Richard Pryor, had I known he was black. :lol: :wink: 8)


:lol: :lol: :lol:

He's one of the few that gets a pass with my wife where comics with bad language are concerned. For some reason his language doesn't bother her like it does with others. I think maybe it's because, in his comedy, he always plays the victim or something like that. He's absolutely my favorite.
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Postby Monker » Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:35 pm

Boomchild wrote:What a lame response. First, you must be blind that by doing something like this, Obama is rewarding the kind of people he thinks are not paying enough in taxes.


No. You must be deaf, blind, and dumb to not realize that most constructive people admit that taxes must be increased as part of any balanced budget.

Cutting taxes is not an irresponsible action.


Cutting taxes, increasing unnecessary spending, and starting pointless wars are ALL irresponsible actions and all turned a budget surplus to a deficit and a huge national debt

Not producing and adhering to a balanced budget is.


See above...and handing that over to the next President, along with an economic disaster, entire industries failing, is an impossible situation...whether you admit it or not, where the country is today is a LOT better off then when W. left office. If it wasn't, we would have had a different outcome this past election.

Out of control spending, bills fulled to the brim with pork spending is.


Get over the empty Republican rhetoric. "pork spending" is such a small percentage of the budget, its virtually irrelevant. You want to cut spending, cut the military budget, cut Social Security, cut Medicaid/Medicare. That is where the money is...the rest is just a distraction.

Rising taxes on any income bracket is a futile act to try and get the government out of the red.


By itself, probably true.

All these talks and debates about the "fiscal cliff" and no mention of how our government has not produced and passed an actual budget.


True. And, like I said, CONGRESS is responsible for that....not Obama. Tell the bonehead congress to do their job.

That and the ridiculous approach that you should be able to work out a plan without even making sizable cuts in spending. All this does is "kick the can down the road" for our future generations to deal with. They are only delaying the inevitable.


When Republicans take the military budget out of the discussion and only want to cut social programs, then why not just take the autmatic cuts...since that is a better compromise? Explain how that is negitionating and compromising with good faith....when the punishment of no action is better then their proposed action?
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Postby Monker » Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:39 pm

Seven Wishes wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Boomchild makes perfect sense. Open your eyes. Hitler was a horrible person in the end, but that was not who people saw in the beginning. People must keep watch on the fact that Obama, in the end, may not be who he seemed in the beginning either.


Do you people really believe this bullshit? Or are you just regurgitating? Come on. Obama's barely been passable as commander-in-chief, but he does NOT hate America, and his biggest crime is being black.

Boomchild, people like you scare the shit out of me.


It's called buying into Glen Beck's propaganda. I'm sure everybody in this forum can be proved a Nazi by his formula. It's so over used now that it has lost the "wow" affect. Who cares, someone else compared Obama to Hitler. OOoooo, Awwww, so original there.
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Postby Rick » Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:46 pm

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Boomchild wrote:What a lame response. First, you must be blind that by doing something like this, Obama is rewarding the kind of people he thinks are not paying enough in taxes.


No. You must be deaf, blind, and dumb to not realize that most constructive people admit that taxes must be increased as part of any balanced budget.

Cutting taxes is not an irresponsible action.


Cutting taxes, increasing unnecessary spending, and starting pointless wars are ALL irresponsible actions and all turned a budget surplus to a deficit and a huge national debt

Not producing and adhering to a balanced budget is.


See above...and handing that over to the next President, along with an economic disaster, entire industries failing, is an impossible situation...whether you admit it or not, where the country is today is a LOT better off then when W. left office. If it wasn't, we would have had a different outcome this past election.

Out of control spending, bills fulled to the brim with pork spending is.


Get over the empty Republican rhetoric. "pork spending" is such a small percentage of the budget, its virtually irrelevant. You want to cut spending, cut the military budget, cut Social Security, cut Medicaid/Medicare. That is where the money is...the rest is just a distraction.

Rising taxes on any income bracket is a futile act to try and get the government out of the red.


By itself, probably true.

All these talks and debates about the "fiscal cliff" and no mention of how our government has not produced and passed an actual budget.


True. And, like I said, CONGRESS is responsible for that....not Obama. Tell the bonehead congress to do their job.

That and the ridiculous approach that you should be able to work out a plan without even making sizable cuts in spending. All this does is "kick the can down the road" for our future generations to deal with. They are only delaying the inevitable.


When Republicans take the military budget out of the discussion and only want to cut social programs, then why not just take the autmatic cuts...since that is a better compromise? Explain how that is negotiating? and compromising with good faith....when the punishment of no action is better then their proposed action?


And while we're at it, let's give Obama credit for including military spending in his budget and not hiding it like Bush did.
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Postby AR » Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:06 pm

That payroll tax reversion to 2010 just took away my last cost of living increase.

It won't bother me in the sense that I will, and already have stopped going to concerts, cut cable pay channels, don't go to dinner anymore.

I also car pool and drive a more few efficient car which is flipping the politicians in Maryland out who raided the Transportation fund and are losing revenue.

Public service was designed to be temporary, and what is broken is that we have allowed these fucking PIGS to make careers out of it.
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Postby Rick » Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:18 pm

AR wrote:That payroll tax reversion to 2010 just took away my last cost of living increase.

It won't bother me in the sense that I will, and already have stopped going to concerts, cut cable pay channels, don't go to dinner anymore.

I also car pool and drive a more few efficient car which is flipping the politicians in Maryland out who raided the Transportation fund and are losing revenue.

Public service was designed to be temporary, and what is broken is that we have allowed these fucking PIGS to make careers out of it.


I agree, Ed. Too many people are on the government dole. I don't mind disabled people being there, but it's the lazy people that would rather suck the tit than get a job that ruin it for everyone.
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Postby Boomchild » Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:55 pm

Monker wrote:No. You must be deaf, blind, and dumb to not realize that most constructive people admit that taxes must be increased as part of any balanced budget.


Your still deaf, dumb and blind to the fact that Obama handing out raises to people who are wealthy (i.e. Biden) is a two faced action. Why give more money to a people he claims have enough and are not paying their "fair share"?

Monker wrote:Cutting taxes, increasing unnecessary spending, and starting pointless wars are ALL irresponsible actions and all turned a budget surplus to a deficit and a huge national debt


Never said that I was a Bush supporter or agreed with everything he did. Both parties are guilty of reckless spending.

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Get over the empty Republican rhetoric. "pork spending" is such a small percentage of the budget, its virtually irrelevant. You want to cut spending, cut the military budget, cut Social Security, cut Medicaid/Medicare. That is where the money is...the rest is just a distraction.


And just about every spending bill is packed full of this "small percentage". It's wasteful spending. The crap spending stuffed into the Hurricane Sandy Bill is a prime example. Full of crap that has nothing to do with providing relief to the victims of the storm. Yes, the money is in military, Medicare and SS spending. Good luck in thinking Obama is going to reduce spending on any of the social programs. He is only going to balloon them and create additional ones.



Monker wrote:True. And, like I said, CONGRESS is responsible for that....not Obama. Tell the bonehead congress to do their job.


Wrong. Obama is "captain of the ship" so he in the end is responsible. Something you were so fond of pointing out when discussing Styx and Dennis DeYoung. Regardless it takes two to tango.
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Postby Boomchild » Fri Jan 04, 2013 4:08 pm

Monker wrote:
Seven Wishes wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Boomchild makes perfect sense. Open your eyes. Hitler was a horrible person in the end, but that was not who people saw in the beginning. People must keep watch on the fact that Obama, in the end, may not be who he seemed in the beginning either.


Do you people really believe this bullshit? Or are you just regurgitating? Come on. Obama's barely been passable as commander-in-chief, but he does NOT hate America, and his biggest crime is being black.

Boomchild, people like you scare the shit out of me.


It's called buying into Glen Beck's propaganda. I'm sure everybody in this forum can be proved a Nazi by his formula. It's so over used now that it has lost the "wow" affect. Who cares, someone else compared Obama to Hitler. OOoooo, Awwww, so original there.


No not everyone in this forum and not proved to be Nazis. Just fooled by Obama's propaganda, flowery speeches and sucked up in the glow of voting for the first African American President. It's obvious that the German people had no clue just how evil Hitler was because he did not show his true colors until he swooned the people in giving him the position and power to do what he really wanted and the people were then powerless to stop him. Obama has yet to show his true colors.
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Postby Boomchild » Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:54 pm

Rick wrote:
AR wrote:That payroll tax reversion to 2010 just took away my last cost of living increase.

It won't bother me in the sense that I will, and already have stopped going to concerts, cut cable pay channels, don't go to dinner anymore.

I also car pool and drive a more few efficient car which is flipping the politicians in Maryland out who raided the Transportation fund and are losing revenue.

Public service was designed to be temporary, and what is broken is that we have allowed these fucking PIGS to make careers out of it.


I agree, Ed. Too many people are on the government dole. I don't mind disabled people being there, but it's the lazy people that would rather suck the tit than get a job that ruin it for everyone.


And the number of people on gov. dole will only keep growing. This seems to be what people voted for. The ease to qualify for SS disability is pathetic. They need to reform the qualifications because their are scores of people who do have a disability however it does not really impair their ability to hold some sort of employment. But, because the bar is set so low to qualify they take the easy way out and get a check for doing nothing to support themselves. Now I am not saying this applies to all. Also, people getting SSD are supposed to have their case reviewed every three to five years to determine if they still qualify for support or are now able to support themselves. The problem is that a large percentage of these reviews never happen because SS does not have enough man power to cover the work load. So, people keep getting support payments even though they have recovered or are now in a position to be able to go back to work. There is a need for programs like this, the problem is how they are run and the abuse and fraud the occurs. Citizens should be holding our government accountable for not being able to effectively manage and run these programs. If these programs were a private enterprise those in charge would have had their asses fired a long time ago or the business would have been bankrupt. To bad citizens can't seem to be able to bring a lawsuit against the government for SS mismanagement in general. The have robbed the SS fund for other purposes and stuffed it with IOUs. If SS was a private pension plan those involved would be jail or sued for not having actual funds in the plan. As it is operated now, SS is basically a ponzi scheme. Eventually those who have paid in will get nothing out of it when their supposed to. The only reason they are getting away with it is because they are the Federal Government and own the presses that print our money.
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Postby G.I.Jim » Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:43 pm

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steveo777 wrote:
Boomchild makes perfect sense. Open your eyes. Hitler was a horrible person in the end, but that was not who people saw in the beginning. People must keep watch on the fact that Obama, in the end, may not be who he seemed in the beginning either.


Do you people really believe this bullshit? Or are you just regurgitating? Come on. Obama's barely been passable as commander-in-chief, but he does NOT hate America, and his biggest crime is being black.

Boomchild, people like you scare the shit out of me.


And I thought us conservatives were "the racists". :roll: I don't give a shit if he's purple as long as he does his job. And he hasn't! Every thing he's said over the last 4 years has been a lie. Transparency. Bullshit. Balanced budget (after he called Bush unpatriotic because of HIS spending, look how much HE has spent!). Lower medical costs for everyone (he really should think about being a comedian). Medicare/welfare reform and cutting out fraud. Still waiting to see that! EVERY promise he made (with the exception of getting troops out of Iraq) has been a lie.

Back to the subject though, pretty disturbing that you're concerned with his race.
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:52 am

AR wrote:That payroll tax reversion to 2010 just took away my last cost of living increase.

It won't bother me in the sense that I will, and already have stopped going to concerts, cut cable pay channels, don't go to dinner anymore.

I also car pool and drive a more few efficient car which is flipping the politicians in Maryland out who raided the Transportation fund and are losing revenue.

Public service was designed to be temporary, and what is broken is that we have allowed these fucking PIGS to make careers out of it.


Yeah, we don't go to concerts, have any pay channels or go out to dinner nearly as much anymore. Now with the car deal, we've not done any of that yet. I would rather walk before carpooling with non-family members for a number of reasons.
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Postby AR » Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:47 am

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AR wrote:That payroll tax reversion to 2010 just took away my last cost of living increase.

It won't bother me in the sense that I will, and already have stopped going to concerts, cut cable pay channels, don't go to dinner anymore.

I also car pool and drive a more few efficient car which is flipping the politicians in Maryland out who raided the Transportation fund and are losing revenue.

Public service was designed to be temporary, and what is broken is that we have allowed these fucking PIGS to make careers out of it.


Yeah, we don't go to concerts, have any pay channels or go out to dinner nearly as much anymore. Now with the car deal, we've not done any of that yet. I would rather walk before carpooling with non-family members for a number of reasons.


Normally I wouldn't advocate car pooling but my commute involves tolls that have nearly tripled over the last 2 years.
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:12 am

I've had coworkers throughout the past 20 years who've drove over bridges and long distances between work and home. Me personally, I won't drive over bridges for work. Luck or just plain spoiled, I refuse to have a job where I have to drive over fucking toll bridges every day. Golden Gate Bridge cost something like $6 to $7 just to cross over it. The only bridge I know of that removed the toll fee after it was paid off was the Coronado Bridge in San Diego, I think ten or so years back it removed the fee to cross. All the other toll bridges I know of only increases the toll fee every year or so.
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Postby Monker » Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:12 pm

AR wrote:That payroll tax reversion to 2010 just took away my last cost of living increase.


So what. People whine about nobody doing anything about budgets and deficits but when things DO change, you whine about that too. So, who cares what people think...just do what's right for the country, not reelection.
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Postby Monker » Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:34 pm

Boomchild wrote:Your still deaf, dumb and blind to the fact that Obama handing out raises to people who are wealthy (i.e. Biden) is a two faced action. Why give more money to a people he claims have enough and are not paying their "fair share"?


Oh, please...first of all, they got a 1% raise - at most and haven't had any raise at all for three years. Do they deserve it, nope. Do I care either way? Not really...it's just a distraction away from the bigger picture of the budget.

Monker wrote:Cutting taxes, increasing unnecessary spending, and starting pointless wars are ALL irresponsible actions and all turned a budget surplus to a deficit and a huge national debt


Never said that I was a Bush supporter or agreed with everything he did.


Oh, of course not...you just can't see how irresponsible it was to lower taxes, and give early returns during election years to get votes.

And just about every spending bill is packed full of this "small percentage". It's wasteful spending.


Sure, but don't even attempt to say that it will make any significant difference in the budget. It's a conservative and Republican fantasy to think "cutting pork", even in the tens of millions of dollars, will make much difference at all when the deficit is in the trillions.

Yes, the money is in military, Medicare and SS spending.


Exactly...all this talk about "pork" is irrelevant.

Good luck in thinking Obama is going to reduce spending on any of the social programs. He is only going to balloon them and create additional ones.


You do know that CONGRESS PASSES THE BUDGET. The fact is what you say above is totally ignorant.

Wrong. Obama is "captain of the ship" so he in the end is responsible. Something you were so fond of pointing out when discussing Styx and Dennis DeYoung. Regardless it takes two to tango.


If you want to look at it that way....he has a choice of being egotistical Perry/DeYoung type and demanding the budget be pass as he proposed, or he'll be reasonable and sign the hard fought compromise that congress pass. So, he can either be Capt Dunsel and steer the ship into the rocks with a veto or turn it away to safer waters with the compromised budget.

I think it's obvious what he'll do.
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Postby Boomchild » Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:37 pm

G.I.Jim wrote:
Seven Wishes wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Boomchild makes perfect sense. Open your eyes. Hitler was a horrible person in the end, but that was not who people saw in the beginning. People must keep watch on the fact that Obama, in the end, may not be who he seemed in the beginning either.


Do you people really believe this bullshit? Or are you just regurgitating? Come on. Obama's barely been passable as commander-in-chief, but he does NOT hate America, and his biggest crime is being black.

Boomchild, people like you scare the shit out of me.


And I thought us conservatives were "the racists". :roll: I don't give a shit if he's purple as long as he does his job. And he hasn't! Every thing he's said over the last 4 years has been a lie. Transparency. Bullshit. Balanced budget (after he called Bush unpatriotic because of HIS spending, look how much HE has spent!). Lower medical costs for everyone (he really should think about being a comedian). Medicare/welfare reform and cutting out fraud. Still waiting to see that! EVERY promise he made (with the exception of getting troops out of Iraq) has been a lie.

Back to the subject though, pretty disturbing that you're concerned with his race.


And don't forget he was going to go through the government spending "line by line" and eliminate the wasteful spending.
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Postby Monker » Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:39 pm

Boomchild wrote:
Monker wrote:
Seven Wishes wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Boomchild makes perfect sense. Open your eyes. Hitler was a horrible person in the end, but that was not who people saw in the beginning. People must keep watch on the fact that Obama, in the end, may not be who he seemed in the beginning either.


Do you people really believe this bullshit? Or are you just regurgitating? Come on. Obama's barely been passable as commander-in-chief, but he does NOT hate America, and his biggest crime is being black.

Boomchild, people like you scare the shit out of me.


It's called buying into Glen Beck's propaganda. I'm sure everybody in this forum can be proved a Nazi by his formula. It's so over used now that it has lost the "wow" affect. Who cares, someone else compared Obama to Hitler. OOoooo, Awwww, so original there.


No not everyone in this forum and not proved to be Nazis. Just fooled by Obama's propaganda, flowery speeches and sucked up in the glow of voting for the first African American President. It's obvious that the German people had no clue just how evil Hitler was because he did not show his true colors until he swooned the people in giving him the position and power to do what he really wanted and the people were then powerless to stop him. Obama has yet to show his true colors.


Yeah, going on four years and he still has to show his colors.

But, people like you have...Hitler mustaches, demanding birth certificates, he's a socialist, blah, blah, blah...all kinds of crazy shit just cuz you don't like the guy.

Again, it's pretty irrelevent now...four more years - and no amount of Hitler comments will change it.
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Postby Boomchild » Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:51 pm

Monker wrote:
Boomchild wrote:Your still deaf, dumb and blind to the fact that Obama handing out raises to people who are wealthy (i.e. Biden) is a two faced action. Why give more money to a people he claims have enough and are not paying their "fair share"?


Oh, please...first of all, they got a 1% raise - at most and haven't had any raise at all for three years. Do they deserve it, nope. Do I care either way? Not really...it's just a distraction away from the bigger picture of the budget.

Monker wrote:Cutting taxes, increasing unnecessary spending, and starting pointless wars are ALL irresponsible actions and all turned a budget surplus to a deficit and a huge national debt


Never said that I was a Bush supporter or agreed with everything he did.


Oh, of course not...you just can't see how irresponsible it was to lower taxes, and give early returns during election years to get votes.

And just about every spending bill is packed full of this "small percentage". It's wasteful spending.


Sure, but don't even attempt to say that it will make any significant difference in the budget. It's a conservative and Republican fantasy to think "cutting pork", even in the tens of millions of dollars, will make much difference at all when the deficit is in the trillions.

Yes, the money is in military, Medicare and SS spending.


Exactly...all this talk about "pork" is irrelevant.

Good luck in thinking Obama is going to reduce spending on any of the social programs. He is only going to balloon them and create additional ones.


You do know that CONGRESS PASSES THE BUDGET. The fact is what you say above is totally ignorant.

Wrong. Obama is "captain of the ship" so he in the end is responsible. Something you were so fond of pointing out when discussing Styx and Dennis DeYoung. Regardless it takes two to tango.


If you want to look at it that way....he has a choice of being egotistical Perry/DeYoung type and demanding the budget be pass as he proposed, or he'll be reasonable and sign the hard fought compromise that congress pass. So, he can either be Capt Dunsel and steer the ship into the rocks with a veto or turn it away to safer waters with the compromised budget.

I think it's obvious what he'll do.


I just love how deflect everything that Obama does. You make it sound as if he is not responsible for anything the government does. You seem to miss that I have no love FOR ANY of these pieces of shit in Washington. Their ALL TO BLAME including Obama for now being the front runner of sending our country down the tubes. Maybe Obama should reduce our nuclear arms by exploding one in Washington.
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Postby Boomchild » Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:03 pm

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Yeah, going on four years and he still has to show his colors.

But, people like you have...Hitler mustaches, demanding birth certificates, he's a socialist, blah, blah, blah...all kinds of crazy shit just cuz you don't like the guy.

Again, it's pretty irrelevent now...four more years - and no amount of Hitler comments will change it.


Yep, your right he hasn't, he's smart in that way. Sorry, but his actions are more socialist oriented. Not to mention in an interview when he was a senator he said that he believed in redistribution of wealth. No, the Hitler comments won't change his re-election but hopefully someone with a good plan will neutralize him.
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Postby steveo777 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:04 pm

You guys think people are buying up guns and ammo in mass quantities because of a few shootiings around the country? If you thought that you would be wrong. They want security in case our government goes rogue and when you measure the amount of arms sold lately, that should be an indicator of what level of fear people have of our government disintegrating and they are enacting protection against absolute anarchy. The barometer is rising and people are getting prepared for the worst. Maybe a ship of fools, but well protected fools.
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Postby Boomchild » Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:21 pm

steveo777 wrote:You guys think people are buying up guns and ammo in mass quantities because of a few shootiings around the country? If you thought that you would be wrong. They want security in case our government goes rogue and when you measure the amount of arms sold lately, that should be an indicator of what level of fear people have of our government disintegrating and they are enacting protection against absolute anarchy. The barometer is rising and people are getting prepared for the worst. Maybe a ship of fools, but well protected fools.


Obama's not worried. I'm sure he's planning a way to confiscate these arms or make it economically impossible for the general public to be able to afford to purchase them.
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Postby steveo777 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:33 pm

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steveo777 wrote:You guys think people are buying up guns and ammo in mass quantities because of a few shootiings around the country? If you thought that you would be wrong. They want security in case our government goes rogue and when you measure the amount of arms sold lately, that should be an indicator of what level of fear people have of our government disintegrating and they are enacting protection against absolute anarchy. The barometer is rising and people are getting prepared for the worst. Maybe a ship of fools, but well protected fools.


Obama's not worried. I'm sure he's planning a way to confiscate these arms or make it economically impossible for the general public to be able to afford to purchase them.


He's a step behind............ In fact, he's walking backwards. People are not gonna put their arms in such a place where they can be easily confiscated and I'd hate to see what will happen to those who will try. Any WWII veteran will have already taught his offspring how to effectively secure their arms.
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Postby Monker » Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:19 am

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Yeah, going on four years and he still has to show his colors.

But, people like you have...Hitler mustaches, demanding birth certificates, he's a socialist, blah, blah, blah...all kinds of crazy shit just cuz you don't like the guy.

Again, it's pretty irrelevent now...four more years - and no amount of Hitler comments will change it.


Yep, your right he hasn't, he's smart in that way. Sorry, but his actions are more socialist oriented.


You're wrong and listen to too much propaganda. Socialists do not support Obama's policies at all.

Not to mention in an interview when he was a senator he said that he believed in redistribution of wealth.


Yawn. That story is so old. Again, none of this 'redistribution' has happened. In fact what HAS happened is taking tax dollars to bail out corporations...taking from us all and giving it to the rich. Probably not the type of redistribution you are talking about.

No, the Hitler comments won't change his re-election but hopefully someone with a good plan will neutralize him.


You could make the same claim about any President, while he was President. Yeah, that Washington dude, he just hasn't shown his true colors yet. Just wait until he gets a taste of true power...he'll never give it up. He'll be this countries Napoleon.
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Postby Monker » Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:24 am

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Boomchild wrote:Your still deaf, dumb and blind to the fact that Obama handing out raises to people who are wealthy (i.e. Biden) is a two faced action. Why give more money to a people he claims have enough and are not paying their "fair share"?


Oh, please...first of all, they got a 1% raise - at most and haven't had any raise at all for three years. Do they deserve it, nope. Do I care either way? Not really...it's just a distraction away from the bigger picture of the budget.

Monker wrote:Cutting taxes, increasing unnecessary spending, and starting pointless wars are ALL irresponsible actions and all turned a budget surplus to a deficit and a huge national debt


Never said that I was a Bush supporter or agreed with everything he did.


Oh, of course not...you just can't see how irresponsible it was to lower taxes, and give early returns during election years to get votes.

And just about every spending bill is packed full of this "small percentage". It's wasteful spending.


Sure, but don't even attempt to say that it will make any significant difference in the budget. It's a conservative and Republican fantasy to think "cutting pork", even in the tens of millions of dollars, will make much difference at all when the deficit is in the trillions.

Yes, the money is in military, Medicare and SS spending.


Exactly...all this talk about "pork" is irrelevant.

Good luck in thinking Obama is going to reduce spending on any of the social programs. He is only going to balloon them and create additional ones.


You do know that CONGRESS PASSES THE BUDGET. The fact is what you say above is totally ignorant.

Wrong. Obama is "captain of the ship" so he in the end is responsible. Something you were so fond of pointing out when discussing Styx and Dennis DeYoung. Regardless it takes two to tango.


If you want to look at it that way....he has a choice of being egotistical Perry/DeYoung type and demanding the budget be pass as he proposed, or he'll be reasonable and sign the hard fought compromise that congress pass. So, he can either be Capt Dunsel and steer the ship into the rocks with a veto or turn it away to safer waters with the compromised budget.

I think it's obvious what he'll do.


I just love how deflect everything that Obama does. You make it sound as if he is not responsible for anything the government does. You seem to miss that I have no love FOR ANY of these pieces of shit in Washington. Their ALL TO BLAME including Obama for now being the front runner of sending our country down the tubes. Maybe Obama should reduce our nuclear arms by exploding one in Washington.


If you want to blame Obama for something, fine, make it something he's responsible for...like putting so much effort into health care before the economy was fixed. But, blaming him for the contents of a budget congress passes is just simply ignorant and seems to be coming from a "blame him for everything" attitude.
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Postby Monker » Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:25 am

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steveo777 wrote:You guys think people are buying up guns and ammo in mass quantities because of a few shootiings around the country? If you thought that you would be wrong. They want security in case our government goes rogue and when you measure the amount of arms sold lately, that should be an indicator of what level of fear people have of our government disintegrating and they are enacting protection against absolute anarchy. The barometer is rising and people are getting prepared for the worst. Maybe a ship of fools, but well protected fools.


Obama's not worried. I'm sure he's planning a way to confiscate these arms or make it economically impossible for the general public to be able to afford to purchase them.


He's a step behind............ In fact, he's walking backwards. People are not gonna put their arms in such a place where they can be easily confiscated and I'd hate to see what will happen to those who will try. Any WWII veteran will have already taught his offspring how to effectively secure their arms.


And, hopefully it's not in a straight jacket.
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