OFFICIAL DC Studios; "DCU" THREAD

[Monker]

You should totally edit this post a third time while the 4th voice in your head is ahead of it, Berkowitz You're a gift, Monker. The box may be empty inside, but a gift nonetheless.

I edited to ensure I got my shit right. Perhaps you should do the same.

[Monker]

Jesus Christ, the man just came back a week and a half ago. There is still major reshoots ahead and a lot more to do with the films from the old regime like The Flash, Shazam: FotG, and Aquaman2. We will see Henry Cavill in most of those films, setting up future plotpoints and respective members of the JL in the process. Superman is a huge IP and an absolute humongous project that needs to have its own stage to be announced. The movie still doesn't have a director but after Aquaman2, the stage is set for the new regime to announce some bombs under their own merit as we kickoff films in production that will sorely be in their control as a studio. Bet?

Ah, I see. So, when you said, "Also, it's the other way around. James Gunn remains a controversial figure in the CBM genre, especially with fans, so getting the Henry Cavill return as Superman out of the way first was smart as this news was sure to ruffle the feathers of DC fandom. Now that it did, the big Henry Cavill interview on Wednesday will reassure things are moving smoothly."

So, when you said "getting the Heny Cavill return as Superman out of the first," what you meant by 'first' is after all these other movies are squared. That's what 'first' means. OK.

And, he has these cameos to do now. LOL.

So, after all of that is done, THEN, they can start talking Superman.

Sorry, but that makes no common sense at all. WB IS IN DEBT. ANY good news will sell ALL tickets to ALL of these. Coming out and saying Cavill has signed a contract for a half dozen cameos and to star in these films....THAT will sell tickets to EVERYTHING and give WB some much needed cash to pay off dept, instead of canceling higher and higher fruit.

[YoungJRNYfan]

You should totally edit this post a third time while the 4th voice in your head is ahead of it, Berkowitz You're a gift, Monker. The box may be empty inside, but a gift nonetheless.

I edited to ensure I got my shit right. Perhaps you should do the same.

Can you tell me which voice it was that hit send? On second thought, don't

[Monker]

No, I'm not demanding anything...I'm just saying that if Cavill was signed to MoS2, there would be NOTHING to hold back announcing it. But, because of Dwayne and his mouth, it has people like you believing it is a done deal - it isn't.

One day ago, you guys were saying this was all planned weeks ago. Now that this interview told you NOTHING, you believe what? They are still planning stuff - weeks later? LOL. If BA had been a huge hit, I have to wonder if Cavill would have any need to "be nice'.

Good grief. I posted GFR's scoop on Henry's deal. Try scrolling up (unless you choose to ignore it). He's signed for (at a minimum) Black Adam 2, Man of Steel 2 and Justice League 2. (Of course, that doesn't include cameos.)

Here's the link again, smart guy. https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/e ... eel-2.html

Yeah, I read it...and it reads completely ridiculous and I don't believe it. The fact that NO other real trade has confirmed it says volumes to me.

[Monker]

You should totally edit this post a third time while the 4th voice in your head is ahead of it, Berkowitz You're a gift, Monker. The box may be empty inside, but a gift nonetheless.

I edited to ensure I got my shit right. Perhaps you should do the same.

Can you tell me which voice it was that hit send? On second thought, don't

Dude, I'm not insulting you. There is no need for you to lower yourself to such level.

[YoungJRNYfan]

.. and give WB some much needed cash to pay off dept, instead of canceling higher and higher fruit.

What are you even saying? What does this even mean? You've been here since 2002 and still talk in slop. Get your shit together.

Dude, I'm not insulting you. There is no need for you to lower yourself to such level.

This doesn't work, Monker. We know how you roll..and so does Andrew. Miss me with the pity party.

[Monker]

.. and give WB some much needed cash to pay off dept, instead of canceling higher and higher fruit.

What are you even saying? What does this even mean? You've been here since 2002 and still talk in slop. Get your shit together.

It means that WB had been canceling HBO shows and films and taking them as write-offs (which means they will never be officially released on any service of media). Once they cancel the low hanging fruit, they'll have to reach higher and more impactful shows and movies and cancel those, if they want to take them as tax write offs.......if they are going to be stupid and waste tens of thousands of dollars to buy seats to bump up Black Adam's numbers this may be how they make up for wasting hundreds of thousands of dollars.

But, hey, I can't say WB hasn't done stupid things...so, maybe they'll go for it this weekend.

Dude, I'm not insulting you. There is no need for you to lower yourself to such level.

This doesn't work, Monker. We know how you roll..and so does Andrew. Miss me with the pity party.

I'm just saying I have given you no reason for you to go there.

[verslibre]

Here's the link again, smart guy. https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/e ... eel-2.html

Yeah, I read it...and it reads completely ridiculous and I don't believe it. The fact that NO other real trade has confirmed it says volumes to me.

That's fine. We'll wait for it to hit the others. I'm patient.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Lightin' up Frances. I've seen the agony you put the boards through. The horseshit you spew after every single garbage disposable post makes you come off that way. I have fun with this stuff. I suggest you do the same.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Here's the link again, smart guy. https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/e ... eel-2.html

Yeah, I read it...and it reads completely ridiculous and I don't believe it. The fact that NO other real trade has confirmed it says volumes to me.

That's fine. We'll wait for it to hit the others. I'm patient.

This mo'a'fuka obviously hasn't heard of NDA's. Andrew Garfield barely made it through with his status on No Way Home. Nobody could just come out and say it. You know why? Because the asshole was under Non Disclosed Agreements. You think Cavill can spill what is currently going on behind the studios backs? Fuck outta heeea.

[verslibre]

This mo'a'fuka obviously hasn't heard of NDA's. Andrew Garfield barely made it through with his status on No Way Home. Nobody could just come out and say it. You know why? Because the asshole was under Non Disclosed Agreements. You think Cavill can spill what is currently going on behind the studios backs? Fuck outta heeea.

Truth. The ONLY reason Garfield didn't get his severance is because they've recast Spidey so many times, they weren't about to go through the process yet again.

ZS: "Looking forward to working with you again" means exactly what it sounds like he means.

[YoungJRNYfan]

This mo'a'fuka obviously hasn't heard of NDA's. Andrew Garfield barely made it through with his status on No Way Home. Nobody could just come out and say it. You know why? Because the asshole was under Non Disclosed Agreements. You think Cavill can spill what is currently going on behind the studios backs? Fuck outta heeea.

Truth. The ONLY reason Garfield didn't get his severance is because they've recast Spidey so many times, they weren't about to go through the process yet again.

ZS: "Looking forward to working with you again" means exactly what it sounds like he means.

And Zack is sneaky meticulous the way he moves. If you haven't followed his personality on Vero, where he secretly uses that platform to communicate how he does things, you would know that he doesn't do or say things on purpose that wouldn't have a double meaning. He said as such. "Looking forward to working with you in the future" is a pure Zack Snyder communicative move. He's telling us without telling us. He has always done this and knows how the fanbase will react. He really does play chess.

Also, Monker is hell-bent on this "negotiations" BS. If that's so, then why is Warner Brothers flat out teaming with Team Cavill and going public and selling this with him on all marketing platforms? Every huge checkmark, including Warner Brothers Studios, shared Henry Cavill's Instagram post and welcomed him back. When did the old regime EVER do that? Cavill went silent for 5 years for a reason. All of a sudden, the studio is marketing Man of Steel again and congratulating Henry for returning.

If that doesn't tell you anything, I don't know what does. If not? This may be the easiest contact negotiations of ALL TIME because Dany Garcia would laugh in their face. So Warner Brothers is negotiating against Warner Brothers now? Sharing such things only strengthens Henry's voice. It's a gawddamn done deal, ya dig?

[Monker]

This mo'a'fuka obviously hasn't heard of NDA's. Andrew Garfield barely made it through with his status on No Way Home. Nobody could just come out and say it. You know why? Because the asshole was under Non Disclosed Agreements. You think Cavill can spill what is currently going on behind the studios backs? Fuck outta heeea.

You have gone from Wednesday interview explaining the future of Superman and calming the waters, or whatever you said that was similar, to saying Cavill is under an NDA. LOL.

What Garfield had to do is a completely different situation from you saying the star of the movie can't talk about the movie he is in because of his NDA. LOL. Again, that doesn't even make sense. If he has signed a contract for MoS2, he would be talking about it every chance he could get, and WB would want him to. Again, WB needs the positive publicity to sell tickets.

[verslibre]

If [Cavill] has signed a contract for MoS2, he would be talking about it every chance he could get, and WB would want him to. Again, WB needs the positive publicity to sell tickets.

Why? What would he say? "I'm gonna be in Man of Steel 2," ad nauseum? Come on, it doesn't have a director. We don't know which pitch/script/story they'll go with. He officially returned onscreen IN THE SUIT. Not good enough for the moment?

[YoungJRNYfan]

This mo'a'fuka obviously hasn't heard of NDA's. Andrew Garfield barely made it through with his status on No Way Home. Nobody could just come out and say it. You know why? Because the asshole was under Non Disclosed Agreements. You think Cavill can spill what is currently going on behind the studios backs? Fuck outta heeea.

You have gone from Wednesday interview explaining the future of Superman and calming the waters, or whatever you said that was similar, to saying Cavill is under an NDA. LOL.

What Garfield had to do is a completely different situation from you saying the star of the movie can't talk about the movie he is in because of his NDA. LOL. Again, that doesn't even make sense. If he has signed a contract for MoS2, he would be talking about it every chance he could get, and WB would want him to. Again, WB needs the positive publicity to sell tickets.

If you wouldn't have your head so far up your own wind hole, then it would make sense, but we all know you like the smell of your own carcass.

"WB needs the positive publicity to sell tickets derr DAH derr". What exactly are they selling tickets for? The current DCU film that involves Henry's official return as Superman. Why would they allow him to talk Man of Steel 2 or any other future plans when the entire point is reiterating how he's officially back as Superman in the current film in theaters? It's not time for that reveal. That's an ace in WBD's back pocket. They aren't going to announce it during a Goddamn paid membership interview that will be uploaded on YouTube the next day. What was said was all fans were expecting and I'm glad Horowitz took things a step further and asked specifically about Man of Steel 2. Common sense tells you what is happening.

Only people with a hate boner (you) will do everything they can to argue just enough to force the would-be sound that inevitably will rush straight across your face and outta your ass.

[Monker]

If [Cavill] has signed a contract for MoS2, he would be talking about it every chance he could get, and WB would want him to. Again, WB needs the positive publicity to sell tickets.

Why? What would he say? "I'm gonna be in Man of Steel 2," ad nauseum? Come on, it doesn't have a director. We don't know which pitch/script/story they'll go with. He officially returned onscreen IN THE SUIT. Not good enough for the moment?

In a first interview, YES! You don't think that one sentence would not get a HUGE response in that auditorium, and in media?

That suit thing was not official. It was Dwayne and Henry using the fandom to put pressure on WB. Tuesday shut all that down. You think the timing of that was coincidence? WB brought Dwayne to SILENCE and Henry Cavill cowering at their feet.

[YoungJRNYfan]

If [Cavill] has signed a contract for MoS2, he would be talking about it every chance he could get, and WB would want him to. Again, WB needs the positive publicity to sell tickets.

Why? What would he say? "I'm gonna be in Man of Steel 2," ad nauseum? Come on, it doesn't have a director. We don't know which pitch/script/story they'll go with. He officially returned onscreen IN THE SUIT. Not good enough for the moment?

In a first interview, YES! You don't think that one sentence would not get a HUGE response in that auditorium, and in media?

That suit thing was not official. It was Dwayne and Henry using the fandom to put pressure on WB. Tuesday shut all that down. You think the timing of that was coincidence? WB brought Dwayne to SILENCE and Henry Cavill cowering at their feet.

Wait, you think Henry Cavill flew to Los Angeles in the Superman suit ( ) forced his way into Warner Brothers Headquarters, bulled his way on set, shot the scene with Dwayne and laughed maniacally to each other as they secretly inserted the scene themselves? You do know that WBD needed to sign off on the cameo for it to even happen right? Lawdy, I've seen better villains displayed on P.J Masks.

Btw: Dwayne posted three times today with a direct acknowledgment to Henry returning yet again. Yep, deaaaad silent

[Monker]

Wait, you think Henry Cavill flew to Los Angeles in the Superman suit ( ) forced his way into Warner Brothers Headquarters, bulled his way on set, shot the scene with Dwayne and laughed maniacally to each other as they secretly inserted the scene themselves? You do know that WBD needed to sign off on the cameo for it to even happen right? Lawdy, I've seen better villains displayed on P.J Masks.

Btw: Dwayne posted three times today with a direct acknowledgment to Henry returning yet again. Yep, deaaaad silent

No, I was thinking there was a Tweet where he wore a S uit. So, I am completely wrong about that.

The credit scene is a credit scene...it doesn't mean there are signed contracts for other movies.

What are you thinking? They have contracts for Cavill to have cameos or credit scenes in all these movies beyond Flash, and contracts for MoS2 and BAvSM. You think WB is going to sign all of that not knowing how well Rock's BA will sell, and how well Cavill's credit scene will help sell BA? You think WB blindly signed all those contracts?

[YoungJRNYfan]

Wait, you think Henry Cavill flew to Los Angeles in the Superman suit ( ) forced his way into Warner Brothers Headquarters, bulled his way on set, shot the scene with Dwayne and laughed maniacally to each other as they secretly inserted the scene themselves? You do know that WBD needed to sign off on the cameo for it to even happen right? Lawdy, I've seen better villains displayed on P.J Masks.

Btw: Dwayne posted three times today with a direct acknowledgment to Henry returning yet again. Yep, deaaaad silent

No, I was thinking there was a Tweet where he wore a S uit. So, I am completely wrong about that.

The credit scene is a credit scene...it doesn't mean there are signed contracts for other movies.

What are you thinking? They have contracts for Cavill to have cameos or credit scenes in all these movies beyond Flash, and contracts for MoS2 and BAvSM. You think WB is going to sign all of that not knowing how well Rock's BA will sell, and how well Cavill's credit scene will help sell BA? You think WB blindly signed all those contracts?

You do know that Henry Cavill turned down the Shazam cameo in 2019 because the old regime wanted him to do that one last obligation on his old contract right? Henry and Dany want more. They wanted longterm stability. They played hardball with the old regime and had demands and guarantees of exactly what they wanted. They never wanted Shazam to be his last appearance. Their plan was Black Adam all along and Henry Cavill would have never came back or signed a cameo deal without guarantees of his future films and roles. You get that right? That's the tell all be all. Team Cavill won. They got what they wanted. He's coming for it all. Can yewww dig it?

[verslibre]

That suit thing was not official.

It's more than official, son. Which MCU shillrag are you journaling for?

It was Dwayne and Henry using the fandom to put pressure on WB.

The film includes that moment because what now? No, you have it ass-backward.

Tuesday shut all that down. You think the timing of that was coincidence? WB brought Dwayne to SILENCE and Henry Cavill cowering at their feet.

I have better conversations with my cat. Look, right now you must do two things without delay:

1) Admit you hate DC and that this is personal.

—and/or—

2) Admit you're transmitting from Htrae (aka Bizarro World), and then your entire pretzel logic narrative may make sense to somebody, just not anyone here.

[Monker]

You do know that Henry Cavill turned down the Shazam cameo in 2019 because the old regime wanted him to do that one last obligation on his old contract right? Henry and Dany want more. They wanted longterm stability. They played hardball with the old regime and had demands and guarantees of exactly what they wanted. They never wanted Shazam to be his last appearance. Their plan was Black Adam all along and Henry Cavill would have never came back or signed a cameo deal without guarantees of his future films and roles. You get that right? That's the tell all be all. Team Cavill won. They got what they wanted. He's coming for it all. Can yewww dig it?

Or, you could say that WB wanted him to do the Shazam cameo but Henry demanded more money. Neither side budged so WB got pissed off, put in the scene anyway but with another "actor" and had his head cut off screen. Then WB basically cut ties with Cavill because of it and even looked at doing the black Superman movie, and adding Supergirl as a sorta replacement in the DCEU. Yeah, that was the old "Hamada regime"...but just because they are gone does not mean the new people want to throw all kinds of money at Cavill.

I also do not think you know what is in Cavill's mind and are just guessing...and so am I. Right now, he is not an "A" list actor. He is doing Netflix shows and supporting roles in movies. He is NOT the big star in any franchise. But, he wants to be...even in that atomic interview, did he not talk about being the next James Bond and that it was still open to him? It seems to me that he wants to be treated and paid like an "A" list actor even though he isn't...at least that is how it used to be. I agree with Grace on that point, too. That is another reason why I feel they are still negotiating. If he is expecting a big raise after his appearance in Black Adam's credit scene did not raise the film into being a huge hit, well, I think he may be disappointed in what they are willing to spend to get him back. They may give a little bit, but I doubt it is what he wants. Again, WB is a company that is in debt...and there are all kinds of ideas outside of Superman, and even the DCU, that DC can spend money on. WB does not need Superman as much as Cavill does. And, who knows what Gunn's pet projects are that he wants to pursue...cutting Superman just gives him more money to work with.

Cavill wants Superman and if doing cameos keeps him connected to the role, I absolutely believe he would do that without an entire set of movie all planned out for him to sign contracts to. BTW, it seems to me that is not how DC does things anyway.

[Monker]

I have better conversations with my cat. Look, right now you must do two things without delay:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfD8L1e ... l=jaxamoto

1) Admit you hate DC and that this is personal.

Maybe DC should just make good movies, instead of mediocre crap.

2) Admit you're transmitting from Htrae (aka Bizarro World), and then your entire pretzel logic narrative may make sense to somebody, just not anyone here.

It's not pretzel logic to say that WB has no contracts for further movies with either Henry Cavill or Dwayne Johnson. And, after the less thab mediocre performance of Black Adam, combined with Dwayne's talk, Dwayne probably won't get a second movie - at least for a long time, and Henry did not prove he could bring in a huge audience to turn it into a hit so he may not get his movie either, unless he comes down a pay grade in his negotiations. There is nothing twisted about that at all.

What is twisted is saying all this stuff was planned and signed off on weeks ago and Cavill was going to ease minds in his atomic interview. Then after the interview said absolutely NOTHING about DC's future, saying there were NDA's and of course he could not speak about things.

[YoungJRNYfan]

You do know that Henry Cavill turned down the Shazam cameo in 2019 because the old regime wanted him to do that one last obligation on his old contract right? Henry and Dany want more. They wanted longterm stability. They played hardball with the old regime and had demands and guarantees of exactly what they wanted. They never wanted Shazam to be his last appearance. Their plan was Black Adam all along and Henry Cavill would have never came back or signed a cameo deal without guarantees of his future films and roles. You get that right? That's the tell all be all. Team Cavill won. They got what they wanted. He's coming for it all. Can yewww dig it?

Or, you could say that WB wanted him to do the Shazam cameo but Henry demanded more money. Neither side budged so WB got pissed off, put in the scene anyway but with another "actor" and had his head cut off screen. Then WB basically cut ties with Cavill because of it and even looked at doing the black Superman movie, and adding Supergirl as a sorta replacement in the DCEU. Yeah, that was the old "Hamada regime"...but just because they are gone does not mean the new people want to throw all kinds of money at Cavill.

I also do not think you know what is in Cavill's mind and are just guessing...and so am I. Right now, he is not an "A" list actor. He is doing Netflix shows and supporting roles in movies. He is NOT the big star in any franchise. But, he wants to be...even in that atomic interview, did he not talk about being the next James Bond and that it was still open to him? It seems to me that he wants to be treated and paid like an "A" list actor even though he isn't...at least that is how it used to be. I agree with Grace on that point, too. That is another reason why I feel they are still negotiating. If he is expecting a big raise after his appearance in Black Adam's credit scene did not raise the film into being a huge hit, well, I think he may be disappointed in what they are willing to spend to get him back. They may give a little bit, but I doubt it is what he wants. Again, WB is a company that is in debt...and there are all kinds of ideas outside of Superman, and even the DCU, that DC can spend money on. WB does not need Superman as much as Cavill does. And, who knows what Gunn's pet projects are that he wants to pursue...cutting Superman just gives him more money to work with.

Cavill wants Superman and if doing cameos keeps him connected to the role, I absolutely believe he would do that without an entire set of movie all planned out for him to sign contracts to. BTW, it seems to me that is not how DC does things anyway.

No point.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Henry Cavill’s negotiating tactics at WB are on another worrisome level. The negotiations are going so bad, that he stepped aside as The Witcher and handed over his sword to Liam Hemsworth. What a powerful negotiation tactic. Hasn't anyone told Henry that the noble thing to do is have another job lined up first before you step away from your current one? Chh.ff.ss.heh..chh..

[verslibre]

Henry Cavill’s negotiating tactics at WB are on another worrisome level. The negotiations are going so bad, that he stepped aside as The Witcher and handed over his sword to Liam Hemsworth. What a powerful negotiation tactic. Hasn't anyone told Henry that the noble thing to do is have another job lined up first before you step away from your current one? Chh.ff.ss.heh..chh..

Ooh! The DC Plot® thickens!

There's absolutely NO WAY this has anything to do with Henry stepping away to make room for Super-goings-on. The Witcher was clearly cutting into his hours as a UPS driver.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Henry Cavill’s negotiating tactics at WB are on another worrisome level. The negotiations are going so bad, that he stepped aside as The Witcher and handed over his sword to Liam Hemsworth. What a powerful negotiation tactic. Hasn't anyone told Henry that the noble thing to do is have another job lined up first before you step away from your current one? Chh.ff.ss.heh..chh..

Ooh! The DC Plot® thickens!

There's absolutely NO WAY this has anything to do with Henry stepping away to make room for Super-goings-on. The Witcher was clearly cutting into his hours as a UPS driver.

This looks like a job for..Monker Randolph!

[YoungJRNYfan]

Just saw that Gunn and Safran officially take over DC Studios November 1st. A day to keep an eye on in case they have anything up their sleeves on the official takeover.

[verslibre]

Just saw that Gunn and Safran officially take over DC Studios November 1st. A day to keep an eye on in case they have anything up their sleeves on the official takeover.

That means if they don't make a MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT by 11:59 P.M. on 11/1, everything so far is bee-ess and Black Adam will be pulled from theaters immediately!

[YoungJRNYfan]

Just saw that Gunn and Safran officially take over DC Studios November 1st. A day to keep an eye on in case they have anything up their sleeves on the official takeover.

That means if they don't make a MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT by 11:59 P.M. on 11/1, everything so far is bee-ess and Black Adam will be pulled from theaters immediately!

Pressure is ON! If not, I'm putting up my entire Superman collection on eBAY!

[verslibre]

Booster Gold or bust!