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[Tomulator]

Society aint always right, but any of your examples above, didnt involve protection or damaging an innocent childs future.
Again, you have the rights to be as gay as you wanna be, but you shouldnt raise a child in that enviroment cause thats as unhealthy for a child as a kid being raised by alcoholic parents.
Just cause there are mother&father-based families who fuck up the child, that shouldnt justify it to give the homesexuals to do the same.

Yes, people opposed to races mixing used the same excuses, "what about the children?".

Comparing homosexuals to alcoholics just finished this conversation with you. You're a bigot and you simply do not get to decide who can raise kids and who can't. There's nothing you can do but accept the fact that in the next few years, every state will allow gay marriage and there will be no laws against gay couples adopting children.

Heterosexuals produce the most fucked up children. Maybe it's them who should not have or raise children.

Are you an ALCOHOLIC and a HOMOSEXUAL?

Geez man...get it together will ya?

[Rick]

It's called 'Cultural Relativism', read up on it.....

That's not an excuse not to evolve and think beyond the limits of those who have the least intelligence in our society.

Oh, I see...so in the 1800s when common citizens practiced vigilante justice, and you could shoot a man for stealing a horse----those were the LEAST intelligent people?

I dont think its even worth trying, Sean....

To sum it up :

Bobby says that he can express his feelings and his opinion on this subject cause thats HIS RIGHTS, however if you disagree with him in any way, then you are a bigot.
Also you dont have the rights to express your opions and feelings cause those dont count since if youre not gay then youre the least intelligent people in the world.
Halleluja, praise the Gaylord and lets all men start suckin cock and women start eating pussy as Bobby has shown us the light at the end of dark tunnel we've lived in ....

I ain't suckin nothing. How does that old saying go? You can build your own home, but that doesn't make you a home builder. You can grow your own garden, but that does not necessarily make you a gardener. If you build a bridge, does that make you a bridge builder? I think not. But suck one dick and you're a cocksucker for life!

[Behshad]

It's called 'Cultural Relativism', read up on it.....

That's not an excuse not to evolve and think beyond the limits of those who have the least intelligence in our society.

Oh, I see...so in the 1800s when common citizens practiced vigilante justice, and you could shoot a man for stealing a horse----those were the LEAST intelligent people?

I dont think its even worth trying, Sean....

To sum it up :

Bobby says that he can express his feelings and his opinion on this subject cause thats HIS RIGHTS, however if you disagree with him in any way, then you are a bigot.
Also you dont have the rights to express your opions and feelings cause those dont count since if youre not gay then youre the least intelligent people in the world.
Halleluja, praise the Gaylord and lets all men start suckin cock and women start eating pussy as Bobby has shown us the light at the end of dark tunnel we've lived in ....

I ain't suckin nothing. How does that old saying go? You can build your own home, but that doesn't make you a home builder. You can grow your own garden, but that does not necessarily make you a gardener. If you build a bridge, does that make you a bridge builder? I think not. But suck one dick and you're a cocksucker for life!

[cyndy!]

Again, I never questioned them being BAD PARENTS, not did I say they would not be loving and caring parents. My main point is how the kid will be treated by others.

we agree that gay parents can be loving & caring parents. we agree that kids can be teased by others for all sorts of things. maybe we can work on educating the others & reinforcing the kids self-esteem.

[bluejeangirl76]

Again, I never questioned them being BAD PARENTS, not did I say they would not be loving and caring parents. My main point is how the kid will be treated by others.

we agree that gay parents can be loving & caring parents. we agree that kids can be teased by others for all sorts of things. maybe we can work on educating the others & reinforcing the kids self-esteem.

Perzactly.

What about the kid who gets made fun of because he or she has a white parent and a black parent?
Should we put the kabosh on interracial marriage too? (and shut up, Tito )

[Jana]

Again, I never questioned them being BAD PARENTS, not did I say they would not be loving and caring parents. My main point is how the kid will be treated by others.

we agree that gay parents can be loving & caring parents. we agree that kids can be teased by others for all sorts of things. maybe we can work on educating the others & reinforcing the kids self-esteem.

Perzactly.

What about the kid who gets made fun of because he or she has a white parent and a black parent?
Should we put the kabosh on interracial marriage too? (and shut up, Tito )

That's what I keep using as an example, and saying also that when I was a kid that was taboo and now biracial kids are much more accepted by their peers.
It's all about better parenting and raising your children to be open-minded and inclusive and not bullies at schools towards all kids, fat, gay, gay parents, biracial, nerds, homely.

[StevePerryHair]

Again, I never questioned them being BAD PARENTS, not did I say they would not be loving and caring parents. My main point is how the kid will be treated by others.

we agree that gay parents can be loving & caring parents. we agree that kids can be teased by others for all sorts of things. maybe we can work on educating the others & reinforcing the kids self-esteem.

Perzactly.

What about the kid who gets made fun of because he or she has a white parent and a black parent?
Should we put the kabosh on interracial marriage too? (and shut up, Tito )

That's what I keep using as an example, and saying also that when I was a kid that was taboo and now biracial kids are much more accepted by their peers.
It's all about better parenting and raising your children to be open-minded and inclusive and not bullies at schools towards all kids, fat, gay, gay parents, biracial, nerds, homely.

Friends are mean to friends. They always were, but when I hear my daughters stories it infuriates me She has a friend, who is THIN but thinks she's fat because her thighs are a little bigger than she likes because she's short. So she tells MY daughter that her thighs are too skinny, they don't touch and boys don't like that They are freaking 14 and talking like this!! I had to tell her that the girl is jealous, you eat healthy and you are a very healthy person and you are growing in height quickly so just ignore her. Kid are relentless about EVERYTHING. Im just glad my daughter talks to me.

[Jana]

Again, I never questioned them being BAD PARENTS, not did I say they would not be loving and caring parents. My main point is how the kid will be treated by others.

we agree that gay parents can be loving & caring parents. we agree that kids can be teased by others for all sorts of things. maybe we can work on educating the others & reinforcing the kids self-esteem.

Perzactly.

What about the kid who gets made fun of because he or she has a white parent and a black parent?
Should we put the kabosh on interracial marriage too? (and shut up, Tito )

That's what I keep using as an example, and saying also that when I was a kid that was taboo and now biracial kids are much more accepted by their peers.
It's all about better parenting and raising your children to be open-minded and inclusive and not bullies at schools towards all kids, fat, gay, gay parents, biracial, nerds, homely.

Friends are mean to friends. They always were, but when I hear my daughters stories it infuriates me She has a friend, who is THIN but thinks she's fat because her thighs are a little bigger than she likes because she's short. So she tells MY daughter that her thighs are too skinny, they don't touch and boys don't like that They are freaking 14 and talking like this!! I had to tell her that the girl is jealous, you eat healthy and you are a very healthy person and you are growing in height quickly so just ignore her. Kid are relentless about EVERYTHING. Im just glad my daughter talks to me.

Girls/teens are so much cattier and meaner than boys in general. It is b/c of jealousy of friends. What she's saying is I hate you b/c you have thin thighs.

[StevePerryHair]

Again, I never questioned them being BAD PARENTS, not did I say they would not be loving and caring parents. My main point is how the kid will be treated by others.

we agree that gay parents can be loving & caring parents. we agree that kids can be teased by others for all sorts of things. maybe we can work on educating the others & reinforcing the kids self-esteem.

Perzactly.

What about the kid who gets made fun of because he or she has a white parent and a black parent?
Should we put the kabosh on interracial marriage too? (and shut up, Tito )

That's what I keep using as an example, and saying also that when I was a kid that was taboo and now biracial kids are much more accepted by their peers.
It's all about better parenting and raising your children to be open-minded and inclusive and not bullies at schools towards all kids, fat, gay, gay parents, biracial, nerds, homely.

Friends are mean to friends. They always were, but when I hear my daughters stories it infuriates me She has a friend, who is THIN but thinks she's fat because her thighs are a little bigger than she likes because she's short. So she tells MY daughter that her thighs are too skinny, they don't touch and boys don't like that They are freaking 14 and talking like this!! I had to tell her that the girl is jealous, you eat healthy and you are a very healthy person and you are growing in height quickly so just ignore her. Kid are relentless about EVERYTHING. Im just glad my daughter talks to me.

Girls/teens are so much cattier and meaner than boys in general. It is b/c of jealousy of friends. What she's saying is I hate you b/c you have thin thighs.

Exactly! That's what I told my daughter! Cutting you down makes her feel better about her own thighs Girls are awful!! Such a tough age!

[Jana]

Again, I never questioned them being BAD PARENTS, not did I say they would not be loving and caring parents. My main point is how the kid will be treated by others.

we agree that gay parents can be loving & caring parents. we agree that kids can be teased by others for all sorts of things. maybe we can work on educating the others & reinforcing the kids self-esteem.

Perzactly.

What about the kid who gets made fun of because he or she has a white parent and a black parent?
Should we put the kabosh on interracial marriage too? (and shut up, Tito )

That's what I keep using as an example, and saying also that when I was a kid that was taboo and now biracial kids are much more accepted by their peers.
It's all about better parenting and raising your children to be open-minded and inclusive and not bullies at schools towards all kids, fat, gay, gay parents, biracial, nerds, homely.

Friends are mean to friends. They always were, but when I hear my daughters stories it infuriates me She has a friend, who is THIN but thinks she's fat because her thighs are a little bigger than she likes because she's short. So she tells MY daughter that her thighs are too skinny, they don't touch and boys don't like that They are freaking 14 and talking like this!! I had to tell her that the girl is jealous, you eat healthy and you are a very healthy person and you are growing in height quickly so just ignore her. Kid are relentless about EVERYTHING. Im just glad my daughter talks to me.

Girls/teens are so much cattier and meaner than boys in general. It is b/c of jealousy of friends. What she's saying is I hate you b/c you have thin thighs.

Exactly! That's what I told my daughter! Cutting you down makes her feel better about her own thighs Girls are awful!! Such a tough age!

LOL. It really is a compliment if your daughter can see through such comments. And for the friend to throw in boys don't like it says it all as far as her real meaning, that she is jealous that boys actually are looking at her.

[BobbyinTN]

There you go again with the hatred and bigotry game BinT. Just because it's our opinion that it's not a natural healthy environment for kids to grow up in doesn't mean our opinion is based on hatred and bigotry. Now if there were suggestions that gays and lesbians needed to be removed, well then you'd have yourself the little bullshit argument you've been so hungry to create.

Bullshit. Voting on the rights of consenting adults in The United States of America and denying them the rights every other American has is bigotry. If I believe Black people shouldn't raise children or work with White people or live in the same neighborhood as White people, that's bigotry.

Discrimination comes in all forms and anyone that approves of it should be the victim of it.


Opinions are fine and dandy. Stating that some people are unfit because of who they are is beyond opinion and if y'all don't realize that, you need help.

[Behshad]

There you go again with the hatred and bigotry game BinT. Just because it's our opinion that it's not a natural healthy environment for kids to grow up in doesn't mean our opinion is based on hatred and bigotry. Now if there were suggestions that gays and lesbians needed to be removed, well then you'd have yourself the little bullshit argument you've been so hungry to create.

Bullshit. Voting on the rights of consenting adults in The United States of America and denying them the rights every other American has is bigotry. If I believe Black people shouldn't raise children or work with White people or live in the same neighborhood as White people, that's bigotry.

Discrimination comes in all forms and anyone that approves of it should be the victim of it.


Opinions are fine and dandy. Stating that some people are unfit because of who they are is beyond opinion and if y'all don't realize that, you need help.

Youre so full of it.

Let me ask you this. If a 20 year old man wants to marry his 19 year old sister, but (assuming) you would STATE that they are unfit because of who they are based on your opinion , is bigotry on your end , eh ???

[Sarah]

Incest has been proven to cause genetic deformities in children, and most of the time both adults are not fully consenting (i.e. Mackenzie Phillips who claimed she consented but clearly was mentally warped by her father). It's different. Until a significant amount of children of gay parents have been shown to actually have issues, there's no comparison.

[The Sushi Hunter]

I have a general rule of thumb, I don't argue with drunks and retards because no matter what, you just can't win with either of them. I've just added BobbyinTN to this list.

[Jana]

Incest has been proven to cause genetic deformities in children, and most of the time both adults are not fully consenting (i.e. Mackenzie Phillips who claimed she consented but clearly was mentally warped by her father). It's different. Until a significant amount of children of gay parents have been shown to actually have issues, there's no comparison.

There is no comparison.

[jrnyman28]

No, I'm really not bigoted at all. Don't you think there's a reason two men or two women can't have sex and conceive?

i'm curious - do you feel that infertile heterosexual couples should not adopt?

That's a good counterargument, at least on the surface. But, the better argument is no, because that failure to conceive is an accident of nature, whereas two men/two women are not intended to procreate given our very nature/biological composition as human beings. No religion/creationism needed, that's just science.

And let me be clear here, I'm not saying anything ridiculous like you should only have sex to procreate. But you can't ignore nature/biology.

Matt, being homosexual is not a choice. That's your mistake and makes your logic faulty.

Neither is being born blind - doesn't mean I want people born that way behind the wheel of the car. Driving, like having kids, is not a right. You can lose kids just as you lose a license to drive.

But you need a liscense to drive yet you do not need a liscense to raise kids. Maybe if you did the world would be a better place. And then, whether it were a gay couple, straight couple or single person they would be Qualified to raise kids...

[jrnyman28]

Interesting because 25/30 years ago, the last thing on any gay and lesbian's mind was having children, that's afterall one of the things they were running away from by being homosexual, absolutely positively no possibility of a chick getting prego when she's sleeping with another woman or a man getting someone prego by boning a dude up the shithole. For whatever reason, it's changed, I'm thinking they want to go through the motions to make their relationship seem more natural.

Are you KIDDING? You actually think men were CHOOSING to be gay to avoid having children?!?!?! That's the most ridiculous thing I have EVER HEARD!!

[Jana]

Interesting because 25/30 years ago, the last thing on any gay and lesbian's mind was having children, that's afterall one of the things they were running away from by being homosexual, absolutely positively no possibility of a chick getting prego when she's sleeping with another woman or a man getting someone prego by boning a dude up the shithole. For whatever reason, it's changed, I'm thinking they want to go through the motions to make their relationship seem more natural.

Are you KIDDING? You actually think men were CHOOSING to be gay to avoid having children?!?!?! That's the most ridiculous thing I have EVER HEARD!!

He has a few ridiculous theories. This might be the topper, though.

[Behshad]

Incest has been proven to cause genetic deformities in children, and most of the time both adults are not fully consenting (i.e. Mackenzie Phillips who claimed she consented but clearly was mentally warped by her father). It's different. Until a significant amount of children of gay parents have been shown to actually have issues, there's no comparison.

no one said about them having kids together.
Just marrying eachother and living as a couple .

[jrnyman28]

Lets not get off track here. I dont care who you sleep with or marry. Im simply against getting a kid involved into the picture.
Stability is the key to raising an emotionally and mentally healthy child,,,,,,unmarried and homosexual partners simply cannot provide the stability that married heterosexual couples can give.Simple as that ! Children need a role model, both male and female. Every child has the right to both a mother and a father,.,,,, Social science combined with common sense and observation clearly proves that children have the best chance to grow up in married, mother & father-based families. I dont agree with it when you put " proving your cultural statement and your rights" above whats best for the kid.

So let the homosexuals marry and then they can be just as stable as the married heteroes you speak of.
Since when does being a married hetero equal stability?
Evey child has the "right" to be loved and raised with love. Sadly, that is not happening. And it has nothing to do with homosexuality. In fact, I would guess that homosexual unions might have a higher ratio of loving homes because they have to truly consider all the ramifications of adoption and child-raising. There is likely far more communication involved before deciding to adopt or in vitro. Unlike many hetero unions which lead to accidental pregnancies, or apathy toward the idea (ie: whatever happens).

[Behshad]

Incest has been proven to cause genetic deformities in children, and most of the time both adults are not fully consenting (i.e. Mackenzie Phillips who claimed she consented but clearly was mentally warped by her father). It's different. Until a significant amount of children of gay parents have been shown to actually have issues, there's no comparison.

There is no comparison.

My point is, before you know it, all people of Virgina and Kentucky and Alabama wanna get a law passed that they can marry within family legally.....
So who are you to say NO to their rights just cause right now by your standards of a normal family, incest is taboo. And dont bring up the deformed kids... lets say they have to get steril before they get married,, it would still be something society would frown upon, 2 peoples rights to love one another.

[jrnyman28]

Wonder how far the homosexuals will push it. If EVERY single state gives them the same rights so they can get married, would it be enough ? No! Next they wanna push the law further and have the rights to adopt kids.

Homosexual couples already have the right to adopt. Funny thing about adoption, the couples are judged on what kind of environment they would provide for a child. If it is not good enough, they don't get to adopt. I wish heteroes had the same standards to meet before having children...

[Behshad]

Lets not get off track here. I dont care who you sleep with or marry. Im simply against getting a kid involved into the picture.
Stability is the key to raising an emotionally and mentally healthy child,,,,,,unmarried and homosexual partners simply cannot provide the stability that married heterosexual couples can give.Simple as that ! Children need a role model, both male and female. Every child has the right to both a mother and a father,.,,,, Social science combined with common sense and observation clearly proves that children have the best chance to grow up in married, mother & father-based families. I dont agree with it when you put " proving your cultural statement and your rights" above whats best for the kid.

So let the homosexuals marry and then they can be just as stable as the married heteroes you speak of.
Since when does being a married hetero equal stability?
Evey child has the "right" to be loved and raised with love. Sadly, that is not happening. And it has nothing to do with homosexuality. In fact, I would guess that homosexual unions might have a higher ratio of loving homes because they have to truly consider all the ramifications of adoption and child-raising. There is likely far more communication involved before deciding to adopt or in vitro. Unlike many hetero unions which lead to accidental pregnancies, or apathy toward the idea (ie: whatever happens).

Go read my posts ,, I never said a gay couple could not provide a loving caring family for the kid,,, but the stability and the mental stress on the kid WILL be there, because of how society looks at things in our time. 20 years from now, things might be different,, but in our society right now, the kid would get teased and called names, just cause he has 2 dads....

[jrnyman28]

So youre gonna guarantee that every kid raised by homosexual parent will end up as a great citizen without any criminal tendencies?
Didnt think so .


My opinions are based on MY FEELINGS which happen to represent the feelings of OUR SOCIETY right now.

Are you gonna guarantee that every kid raised by a mother and a father are gonna do the same?

Once our "society" thought slavery was fine and dandy, and that women were subservient and that races shouldn't mix and even longer ago, "society" thought that if a woman showed her ankles it was inappropriate and even longer ago than that "society" thought a king had to rule the country and that king was appointed by God.

Society ain't always right.

Society aint always right, but any of your examples above, didnt involve protection or damaging an innocent childs future.
Again, you have the rights to be as gay as you wanna be, but you shouldnt raise a child in that enviroment cause thats as unhealthy for a child as a kid being raised by alcoholic parents.
Just cause there are mother&father-based families who fuck up the child, that shouldnt justify it to give the homesexuals to do the same.

Really? Did raising girls to believe they were subservant, not equal, unintelligent and worthless for anything but bearing children protect them and not damage them?

[Behshad]

Wonder how far the homosexuals will push it. If EVERY single state gives them the same rights so they can get married, would it be enough ? No! Next they wanna push the law further and have the rights to adopt kids.

Homosexual couples already have the right to adopt. Funny thing about adoption, the couples are judged on what kind of environment they would provide for a child. If it is not good enough, they don't get to adopt. I wish heteroes had the same standards to meet before having children...

Instead of echoing Jana, go and read 3-4 pages back, THEN come here and share your opinoin,,, ok?

[jrnyman28]

WOW! Pot, this is kettle.

One is against the law because to be considered an adult you have to be 18 years old. Any consenting adult should have the right to marry another consenting adult and no one else should be involved. It's simply no one else's business.

I bet you're one of those folks who call Obama a "socialist" and yet you want the government to tell people how to live and who to love. LMAO!!

Do you have to fuck up every quote ?

The law?? Since when do you care about the law.... Last I checked THE LAW said NO to gay people getting married (in 45 states), but you dont wanna follow that law, since its not good enough for you. If gay people did care about the law, they wouldve followed the law and didnt keep pushing to CHANGE the law, left and right to suit them.

Wonder how many people said that exact same thing about Black people?

Wonder how far the homosexuals will push it. If EVERY single state gives them the same rights so they can get married, would it be enough ? No! Next they wanna push the law further and have the rights to adopt kids.

Are you living in the dark ages? Homosexuals are adopting foster children already in many states and encouraged to do so. Watch the video I posted of the brother and sister ADOPTED out of the foster care system to a gay male couple. And some states like Florida that don't allow adoption allow them to be their foster parents.

I didnt say there arent ANY gay people adopting and raising kids. I said I dont agree with it, and MOST states dont agree with it either. I guess Reading vs Comprehending is 2 different things .
Plus YOU wouldnt want to be raised by 2 dads, so why would you push the issue and would think its a good thing for other kids !?

Um, see the bolded part of your quote.

[Deb]

Lets not get off track here. I dont care who you sleep with or marry. Im simply against getting a kid involved into the picture.
Stability is the key to raising an emotionally and mentally healthy child,,,,,,unmarried and homosexual partners simply cannot provide the stability that married heterosexual couples can give.Simple as that ! Children need a role model, both male and female. Every child has the right to both a mother and a father,.,,,, Social science combined with common sense and observation clearly proves that children have the best chance to grow up in married, mother & father-based families. I dont agree with it when you put " proving your cultural statement and your rights" above whats best for the kid.

So let the homosexuals marry and then they can be just as stable as the married heteroes you speak of.
Since when does being a married hetero equal stability?
Evey child has the "right" to be loved and raised with love. Sadly, that is not happening. And it has nothing to do with homosexuality. In fact, I would guess that homosexual unions might have a higher ratio of loving homes because they have to truly consider all the ramifications of adoption and child-raising. There is likely far more communication involved before deciding to adopt or in vitro. Unlike many hetero unions which lead to accidental pregnancies, or apathy toward the idea (ie: whatever happens).

Go read my posts ,, I never said a gay couple could not provide a loving caring family for the kid,,, but the stability and the mental stress on the kid WILL be there, because of how society looks at things in our time. 20 years from now, things might be different,, but in our society right now, the kid would get teased and called names, just cause he has 2 dads....

Yes and ie., so would little Wendy that lives down the street with the alcoholic/pervy father? Not sure I'm understanding your point, BB?

[Jana]

Wonder how far the homosexuals will push it. If EVERY single state gives them the same rights so they can get married, would it be enough ? No! Next they wanna push the law further and have the rights to adopt kids.

Homosexual couples already have the right to adopt. Funny thing about adoption, the couples are judged on what kind of environment they would provide for a child. If it is not good enough, they don't get to adopt. I wish heteroes had the same standards to meet before having children...

Instead of echoing Jana, go and read 3-4 pages back, THEN come here and share your opinoin,,, ok?

nothing wrong with echoing and expanding on my pearls of wisdom.

[Behshad]

WOW! Pot, this is kettle.

One is against the law because to be considered an adult you have to be 18 years old. Any consenting adult should have the right to marry another consenting adult and no one else should be involved. It's simply no one else's business.

I bet you're one of those folks who call Obama a "socialist" and yet you want the government to tell people how to live and who to love. LMAO!!

Do you have to fuck up every quote ?

The law?? Since when do you care about the law.... Last I checked THE LAW said NO to gay people getting married (in 45 states), but you dont wanna follow that law, since its not good enough for you. If gay people did care about the law, they wouldve followed the law and didnt keep pushing to CHANGE the law, left and right to suit them.

Wonder how many people said that exact same thing about Black people?

Wonder how far the homosexuals will push it. If EVERY single state gives them the same rights so they can get married, would it be enough ? No! Next they wanna push the law further and have the rights to adopt kids.

Are you living in the dark ages? Homosexuals are adopting foster children already in many states and encouraged to do so. Watch the video I posted of the brother and sister ADOPTED out of the foster care system to a gay male couple. And some states like Florida that don't allow adoption allow them to be their foster parents.

I didnt say there arent ANY gay people adopting and raising kids. I said I dont agree with it, and MOST states dont agree with it either. I guess Reading vs Comprehending is 2 different things .
Plus YOU wouldnt want to be raised by 2 dads, so why would you push the issue and would think its a good thing for other kids !?

Um, see the bolded part of your quote.

Um, That simply means that they wanna have the rights to adopt kids in EVERY state. sorry for not explaining every detail to you .

[Behshad]

Wonder how far the homosexuals will push it. If EVERY single state gives them the same rights so they can get married, would it be enough ? No! Next they wanna push the law further and have the rights to adopt kids.

Homosexual couples already have the right to adopt. Funny thing about adoption, the couples are judged on what kind of environment they would provide for a child. If it is not good enough, they don't get to adopt. I wish heteroes had the same standards to meet before having children...

Instead of echoing Jana, go and read 3-4 pages back, THEN come here and share your opinoin,,, ok?

nothing wrong with echoing and expanding on my pearls of wisdom.

nothing wrong with it,,, but once its been brought up and covered and answered , no point ,,,