R.I.P. Global Warming...The Convenient Truth...it's not hot!

[RossValoryRocks]

My gut says that natural Earth cycles are just that, and people that want to scream & shout, just want to scream & shout...about most anything.


later~

BULLSHIT! That's not true! People won't argue just for the sake of arguing!!!!! WRONG!!!

Have you READ MR Forums at all???

You proved yourself wrong just by being here! LOL

[7 Wishes]

[RedWingFan]

:roll:

Dude when are you going to going let your ego take the blow and admit you were wrong on this? It's okay to admit you were wrong, better yet that you believed liars. To go on defending them after you realize they lied to you is wrong.

[donnaplease]

:roll:

Dude when are you going to going let your ego take the blow and admit you were wrong on this? It's okay to admit you were wrong, better yet that you believed liars. To go on defending them after you realize they lied to you is wrong.

Anybody else catch the irony of this statement, given the nature of the MR board and what's happened within Journey over the past few years???

[RossValoryRocks]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100120/ap_ ... ate_change

OOPS they did it again...

[7 Wishes]

Eh. It hardly seems worth debating anymore.

Anyway, I love the new avatar, FF. One of the best.

Feeling somewhat conciliatory and ambivalent these days. Perhaps something will spark my long-winded, diatribe-laden MR political forum board debates. Not for the time being, though.

[hoagiepete]

My gut says that natural Earth cycles are just that, and people that want to scream & shout, just want to scream & shout...about most anything.


later~

BULLSHIT! That's not true! People won't argue just for the sake of arguing!!!!! WRONG!!!

Nope only for $$.

[RedWingFan]

Eh. It hardly seems worth debating anymore.

Anyway, I love the new avatar, FF. One of the best.

Feeling somewhat conciliatory and ambivalent these days. Perhaps something will spark my long-winded, diatribe-laden MR political forum board debates. Not for the time being, though.

Well going by previous documented Earth's NATURAL warming and cooling cycles. It'll start warming in around 20 years. See you then!!!

[treetopovskaya]

love her...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX0iDoTD1Q0

HAHAHAA! }:C)

[Behshad]

Good old-fashioned honest journalism by Pittsburghlive.com pointedly embarrasses Penn State and their pernicious professor, Michael Mann. Their editorial reviewing the “Climategate Analysis,” by British physicist, Dr. John P. Costella and now available from the non-profit Science & Public Policy Institute (scienceandpublicpolicy.org), has really caught the attention of Pennsylvanian readers.

Since running the editorial on Dr. Costella’s latest exposé, the Tribune-Review’s (local paper) circulation jumped 14.8 percent from the Monday edition to the Friday edition. Then to 168,218 from 146,520 a year ago on the back of Costella’s story. Dr. Costella was clearly delighted with the response, “I’ll give you 168,218 to 1 that it ruined at least one of Mann’s meals!”

Thanks to Costella’s newly re-published analysis of the leaked emails from on the world’s key Climatic Research Units at the University of East Anglia, researchers into the Climategate scandal have been having a field day unpicking 13-years’worth of lies, deceit and fraudulent junk science all perpetrated at taxpayers’ expense. The cost to the U.S. economy for implementing policies based in such junk could run into trillions of dollars.

In the wake of the Climategate scandal has come a flood of other shocking revelations to derail the juggernaut of pro-green climate policy pursued by world governments. After Climategate, Pachaurigate and Glaciergate: Amazongate, now President Obama’s U.S. Administration is expected to be defeated in Congress on its unpopular and expensive climate cap-and-trade bill after Republican, Scott Brown, scored a sensational victory capturing the staunch Democrat seat of recently deceased Edward Kennedy.

The true depths of the climate scandal is causing great interest in the Pennsylvania heartlands of disgraced dodgy tree-ring counter, Michael Mann. Pittsburghers have been fascinated to find that the greatest fraud ever committed in the history of science was being perpetrated within their midst...

Read it and weep gang, it's all right here in 149 pages. So sorry y'all got punked.

http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/image ... alysis.pdf

Cant you just copy and paste all the pages ??? Youre gettin weak buddy

[Rick]

I'm busier than shit B. I missed out on all the State of Obama speech fun yesterday. Besides, do you really want to follow behind me and re-post the 149 pages a second time?

I like that avatar. I'm not sure what he's saying though. He's not being very clear about it.

[artist4perry]

I'm busier than shit B. I missed out on all the State of Obama speech fun yesterday. Besides, do you really want to follow behind me and re-post the 149 pages a second time?

I like that avatar. I'm not sure what he's saying though. He's not being very clear about it.

He is being very pointed about the discussion though.

[Rick]

I'm busier than shit B. I missed out on all the State of Obama speech fun yesterday. Besides, do you really want to follow behind me and re-post the 149 pages a second time?

I like that avatar. I'm not sure what he's saying though. He's not being very clear about it.

He's just saying what all the libs here want to say to me.

[RossValoryRocks]

UN climate chief Rajendra Pachauri 'got grants through bogus claims'

The chairman of the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), has used bogus claims that Himalayan glaciers were melting to win grants worth hundreds of thousands of pounds.

Rajendra Pachauri's Energy and Resources Institute (TERI), based in New Delhi, was awarded up to £310,000 by the Carnegie Corporation of New York and the lion's share of a £2.5m EU grant funded by European taxpayers.

It means that EU taxpayers are funding research into a scientific claim about glaciers that any ice researcher should immediately recognise as bogus. The revelation comes just a week after The Sunday Times highlighted serious scientific flaws in the IPCC's 2007 benchmark report on the likely impacts of global warming.

The IPCC had warned that climate change was likely to melt most of the Himalayan glaciers by 2035 - an idea considered ludicrous by most glaciologists. Last week a humbled IPCC retracted that claim and corrected its report.

Yep follow the money...and usually at the end of it you find a stinking pile of bullshit, in this case Global Warming.

Again the libs fail to see that the politicians and the scientist they have co-opted don't have the interest of the people they are supposed to be representing, but only the lining of thier own pockets as the goal.

[7 Wishes]

Actually, Stu, while I certainly haven't wavered in my belief that humankind (and specifically industry) has at least in part contributed to global warming, I agree with you. Surprised?

[7 Wishes]

Context.

The facts remain the facts, and they point directly to the fact that humankind has at least contributed to global warming through pollution and unregulated industry (championed by the GOP).

[RossValoryRocks]

Context.

The facts remain the facts, and they point directly to the fact that humankind has at least contributed to global warming through pollution and unregulated industry (championed by the GOP).

That's just the point...the "facts" have been made up to support a hypothesis that is wrong.

Facts need justification, and they are making up the justication to fit the facts rather than vice versa.

Has man polluted the world, certainly, has it contributed in any great degree to global warming, that has not been proved, in fact it seems now that when the global warming proponents could find information to support their view they made things up.

So your "facts" are nothing more than cleverly contrived phantoms that actually prove nothing.

[Rick]

Context.

The facts remain the facts, and they point directly to the fact that humankind has at least contributed to global warming through pollution and unregulated industry (championed by the GOP).

That's just the point...the "facts" have been made up to support a hypothesis that is wrong.

Facts need justification, and they are making up the justication to fit the facts rather than vice versa.

Has man polluted the world, certainly, has it contributed in any great degree to global warming, that has not been proved, in fact it seems now that when the global warming proponents could find information to support their view they made things up.

So your "facts" are nothing more than cleverly contrived phantoms that actually prove nothing.

It may not be to any great degree, but it's a mathematical impossibility that we haven't contributed to it.

[7 Wishes]

If you look back several pages, you'll see a post I made that completely refutes this bait-and-switch, wool-over-the-eyes standard GOP diversionary recitation. Your ratiocinative abilities need not be Mensa-esque for you to realize you're wallowing in and swallowing your own bullshit.

[RossValoryRocks]

If you look back several pages, you'll see a post I made that completely refutes this bait-and-switch, wool-over-the-eyes standard GOP diversionary recitation. Your ratiocinative abilities need not be Mensa-esque for you to realize you're wallowing in and swallowing your own bullshit.

And 12 other big words to you too...

Looking using whatever big words you want doesn't make you look intelligent 7. Rather it looks like you are trying to deflect away from the fact that your ideas and ideals about global warming are completely amde up by scientists who are just trying to make themselves a name, and get rich, all at the expense of the gulliable like you.

The fact remains that the data was manipulated...and since I am not a member of the GoP...I am not trying to divert anything, merely to get you to open your eyes.

Over and over again the MAINSTREAM MEDIA has actually put out stories about how the global warming nuts have been manipulating data to fit their ideas (NOT GOOD SCIENCE) when they should have been formulating their ideas based on what the data showed them (GOOD SCIENCE) and yet you some how still believe that global warming is still a "fact"? Are you always this stubborn when it basically been proved over and over again, in this thread, in the mainstream media, by SCIENCE that you are wrong?

[7 Wishes]

Made up? Did you even bother to read the links I provided? Does it not bother you that your opinion is only supported by a vast minority of scientists and NONE who are peer-reviewed? Good God, man. Sleep like a baby while the world burns.

And, incidentally - I was an English major. So what? The fact that I have a command of the English language doesn't discredit white I write. YOU are the one who is ignoring the facts. What this particular group of climatologists did or wrote does NOT give you carte blanche to dismiss the entire theory of global warming - which, again, is a virtual consensus in the scientific community, this issue notwithstanding.

[7 Wishes]

http://www.panda.org/about_our_earth/aboutcc/problems/impacts/glaciers/

The watersheds of the world are shrinking
Glaciers are ancient rivers of compressed snow that creep through the landscape, shaping the planet's surface. They are the Earth's largest freshwater reservoir, collectively covering an area the size of South America.

Glaciers have been retreating worldwide since the end of the Little Ice Age (around 1850), but in recent decades glaciers have begun melting at rates that cannot be explained by historical trends. Projected climate change over the next century will further increase the rate at which glaciers melt. Average global temperatures are expected to rise between 1.4 and 5.8°C by the end of the 21st century.

Simulations project that a 4°C rise in temperature would cause nearly all of the world's glaciers to melt.

For example, the meltdown of the Greenland ice sheet could be triggered at a temperature increase of 2-3°C. Even in the least damaging scenario, say a 1°C rise along with an increase in rain and snow, glaciers will continue to lose volume over the coming century.

The importance of glaciers for human populations and ecosystems

Although only a small fraction of the planet's permanent ice is stored outside of Greenland and Antarctica, these glaciers are extremely important because they are particularly susceptible to climate change and their loss directly affects human populations and ecosystems.

Continued and widespread melting of glaciers during this century will lead to floods and water shortages for millions of people. As sea levels rise, coastal communities and habitats will be destroyed.

[artist4perry]

Well my front yard isn't melting off at a quick rate of speed......... Matter of fact, this is the most Snow I have seen in a while. Lovely actually...........till I fell at the foot of the stairs yesterday because the rug was soaked from that global warming and I screwed up my back, hip, leg, and arm. Shure feels mighty cold to me........

[RossValoryRocks]

http://www.panda.org/about_our_earth/aboutcc/problems/impacts/glaciers/

The watersheds of the world are shrinking
Glaciers are ancient rivers of compressed snow that creep through the landscape, shaping the planet's surface. They are the Earth's largest freshwater reservoir, collectively covering an area the size of South America.

Glaciers have been retreating worldwide since the end of the Little Ice Age (around 1850), but in recent decades glaciers have begun melting at rates that cannot be explained by historical trends. Projected climate change over the next century will further increase the rate at which glaciers melt. Average global temperatures are expected to rise between 1.4 and 5.8°C by the end of the 21st century.

Simulations project that a 4°C rise in temperature would cause nearly all of the world's glaciers to melt.

For example, the meltdown of the Greenland ice sheet could be triggered at a temperature increase of 2-3°C. Even in the least damaging scenario, say a 1°C rise along with an increase in rain and snow, glaciers will continue to lose volume over the coming century.

The importance of glaciers for human populations and ecosystems

Although only a small fraction of the planet's permanent ice is stored outside of Greenland and Antarctica, these glaciers are extremely important because they are particularly susceptible to climate change and their loss directly affects human populations and ecosystems.

Continued and widespread melting of glaciers during this century will lead to floods and water shortages for millions of people. As sea levels rise, coastal communities and habitats will be destroyed.

Again your source is bullshit...for God's sake man...it's starting to become comical...the people and the theory YOU believe in have been PROVEN with FACTS to be nothing but a bunch of lying, thieves intending to line their own pockets...and yet you still eat it up like tripe...

[RedWingFan]

http://www.panda.org/about_our_earth/aboutcc/problems/impacts/glaciers/
The watersheds of the world are shrinking
Glaciers are ancient rivers of compressed snow that creep through the landscape, shaping the planet's surface. They are the Earth's largest freshwater reservoir, collectively covering an area the size of South America.
Glaciers have been retreating worldwide since the end of the Little Ice Age (around 1850), but in recent decades glaciers have begun melting at rates that cannot be explained by historical trends. Projected climate change over the next century will further increase the rate at which glaciers melt. Average global temperatures are expected to rise between 1.4 and 5.8°C by the end of the 21st century.
Simulations project that a 4°C rise in temperature would cause nearly all of the world's glaciers to melt.
For example, the meltdown of the Greenland ice sheet could be triggered at a temperature increase of 2-3°C. Even in the least damaging scenario, say a 1°C rise along with an increase in rain and snow, glaciers will continue to lose volume over the coming century.
The importance of glaciers for human populations and ecosystems

Although only a small fraction of the planet's permanent ice is stored outside of Greenland and Antarctica, these glaciers are extremely important because they are particularly susceptible to climate change and their loss directly affects human populations and ecosystems.

Continued and widespread melting of glaciers during this century will lead to floods and water shortages for millions of people. As sea levels rise, coastal communities and habitats will be destroyed.

Again your source is bullshit...for God's sake man...it's starting to become comical...the people and the theory YOU believe in have been PROVEN with FACTS to be nothing but a bunch of lying, thieves intending to line their own pockets...and yet you still eat it up like tripe...

But Stu, they have a website!

[artist4perry]

http://www.panda.org/about_our_earth/aboutcc/problems/impacts/glaciers/
The watersheds of the world are shrinking
Glaciers are ancient rivers of compressed snow that creep through the landscape, shaping the planet's surface. They are the Earth's largest freshwater reservoir, collectively covering an area the size of South America.
Glaciers have been retreating worldwide since the end of the Little Ice Age (around 1850), but in recent decades glaciers have begun melting at rates that cannot be explained by historical trends. Projected climate change over the next century will further increase the rate at which glaciers melt. Average global temperatures are expected to rise between 1.4 and 5.8°C by the end of the 21st century.
Simulations project that a 4°C rise in temperature would cause nearly all of the world's glaciers to melt.
For example, the meltdown of the Greenland ice sheet could be triggered at a temperature increase of 2-3°C. Even in the least damaging scenario, say a 1°C rise along with an increase in rain and snow, glaciers will continue to lose volume over the coming century.
The importance of glaciers for human populations and ecosystems

Although only a small fraction of the planet's permanent ice is stored outside of Greenland and Antarctica, these glaciers are extremely important because they are particularly susceptible to climate change and their loss directly affects human populations and ecosystems.

Continued and widespread melting of glaciers during this century will lead to floods and water shortages for millions of people. As sea levels rise, coastal communities and habitats will be destroyed.

Again your source is bullshit...for God's sake man...it's starting to become comical...the people and the theory YOU believe in have been PROVEN with FACTS to be nothing but a bunch of lying, thieves intending to line their own pockets...and yet you still eat it up like tripe...

But Stu, they have a website!

And they are scientists! Scientists are never wrong! Never! Well except for that whole world is flat thingy........or that ulcers are due to stress alone............or that ...............fill in the blank here.

[RossValoryRocks]

http://www.panda.org/about_our_earth/aboutcc/problems/impacts/glaciers/
The watersheds of the world are shrinking
Glaciers are ancient rivers of compressed snow that creep through the landscape, shaping the planet's surface. They are the Earth's largest freshwater reservoir, collectively covering an area the size of South America.
Glaciers have been retreating worldwide since the end of the Little Ice Age (around 1850), but in recent decades glaciers have begun melting at rates that cannot be explained by historical trends. Projected climate change over the next century will further increase the rate at which glaciers melt. Average global temperatures are expected to rise between 1.4 and 5.8°C by the end of the 21st century.
Simulations project that a 4°C rise in temperature would cause nearly all of the world's glaciers to melt.
For example, the meltdown of the Greenland ice sheet could be triggered at a temperature increase of 2-3°C. Even in the least damaging scenario, say a 1°C rise along with an increase in rain and snow, glaciers will continue to lose volume over the coming century.
The importance of glaciers for human populations and ecosystems

Although only a small fraction of the planet's permanent ice is stored outside of Greenland and Antarctica, these glaciers are extremely important because they are particularly susceptible to climate change and their loss directly affects human populations and ecosystems.

Continued and widespread melting of glaciers during this century will lead to floods and water shortages for millions of people. As sea levels rise, coastal communities and habitats will be destroyed.

Again your source is bullshit...for God's sake man...it's starting to become comical...the people and the theory YOU believe in have been PROVEN with FACTS to be nothing but a bunch of lying, thieves intending to line their own pockets...and yet you still eat it up like tripe...

But Stu, they have a website!

Sure...because PANDA.ORG doesn't have an agenda or anything?

[conversationpc]

In previous posts, I’ve talked about the hysteria created by man-made global warmers like Al Gore. They’re obviously still at it even though the public is finally catching on and beginning to look the other way, ignoring their shenanigans.

The more I learn about supposed "man-made" global warming, the more skeptical I am.

You can read the rest of my post at http://davekellogg.wordpress.com/2010/0 ... l-warming/

[S2M]

You know....who really cares about Global Warming. I'll post my own thoughts rather than having the C&P contest continue...

Perhaps the scientists fudged numbers to make it look worse than it is. But you know what? It is bad enough. Why mortgage the future, and future generations because You and Company ABC want to make some duckets? Most of the people making legislature, and wanting to benefit from the things that cause GW will be long dead and buried when the real fruits of their labor come to bear....Kids? fuck 'em. Kid's kids? Fuck them too!

So some nerds shaved some points, so fucking what!

Go back to driving your $80, 000 Mercedes SUV, and spend $100 filling the fucker up....pollute the air some more. Maybe some seals will die in Iceland. Keep your oil heaters, screw the wind farms and solar panels....perhaps Kanga, Roo, and Eeyore will die as well. Heck, let the polar ice caps melt....animals are migratory - they'll adapt.

Carry on watching your Nascar, inhaling your pork rines, cheeking your Skoal, and fucking your sister's sheep....long after your last toof has fallen out, and your last grandchild has stopped being called Shrek - the Earth will be one giant waterworld. Then you, Costner, and Dennis Hopper can ride around looking for some girl with a map of your penis on her back.

[hoagiepete]

You know....who really cares about Global Warming. I'll post my own thoughts rather than having the C&P contest continue...

Perhaps the scientists fudged numbers to make it look worse than it is. But you know what? It is bad enough. Why mortgage the future, and future generations because You and Company ABC want to make some duckets? Most of the people making legislature, and wanting to benefit from the things that cause GW will be long dead and buried when the real fruits of their labor come to bear....Kids? fuck 'em. Kid's kids? Fuck them too!

So some nerds shaved some points, so fucking what!

Go back to driving your $80, 000 Mercedes SUV, and spend $100 filling the fucker up....pollute the air some more. Maybe some seals will die in Iceland. Keep your oil heaters, screw the wind farms and solar panels....perhaps Kanga, Roo, and Eeyore will die as well. Heck, let the polar ice caps melt....animals are migratory - they'll adapt.

Carry on watching your Nascar, inhaling your pork rines, cheeking your Skoal, and fucking your sister's sheep....long after your last toof has fallen out, and your last grandchild has stopped being called Shrek - the Earth will be one giant waterworld. Then you, Costner, and Dennis Hopper can ride around looking for some girl with a map of your penis on her back.

Nascar fans driving $80,000 Mercedes? Sister's sheep? Costner and Hopper?