2011-2012 NFL Season Thread

by **YoungJRNY** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:48 am

The funny thing is, is that Indy is holding out hope that Manning will be available in December. Why? Even is he IS ready to play by then, the team will probably be sitting at a terrible record, maybe in the 0-3 win range and they are going to start and risk Manning playing in a lost season? Come on now.

Manning should be placed on IR asap to free up a position of need or bring in a valuable QB like David Garrard or some sort. Atleast he's capable and is knowledgeable in the AFC South, more-so than Collins can ever be at this point.

by **Ehwmatt** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:53 am

YoungJRNY wrote:The funny thing is, is that Indy is holding out hope that Manning will be available in December. Why? Even is he IS ready to play by then, the team will probably be sitting at a terrible record, maybe in the 0-3 win range and they are going to start and risk Manning playing in a lost season? Come on now.

Manning should be placed on IR asap to free up a position of need or bring in a valuable QB like David Garrard or some sort. Atleast he's capable and is knowledgeable in the AFC South, more-so than Collins can ever be at this point.

Guarantee not putting him on IR is Peyton's call, not the Indy front office/coaching staff's.

by **mikemarrs** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:06 am

I think for some crazy reason Manning is hoping the team will be winning and he can swoop in and seal the deal with a couple victories in December.The thing is they will not even have a winning record unless here soon they all the sudden decide to grab someone good like a Carson Palmer or Brett Favre.Thing is Kerry Collins was a bad choice i know because i watched him here in Tennessee.Anyway if they get someone with talent at QB i do believe the Colts can win a few games.Heard rumors of the grabbing David Garrard and he is a definite improvement over Collins.For all we know Indy has something up their sleeves that they are not telling.

At first i thought they might be in the Suck for Luck thing where the worst team gets Andrew Luck but they did some interviews recently with the Colts brass and they seem to think Peyton still has four or five years left once he heals.The Colts brass pointed out that Tom Brady missed all of 2008 and he came back just as good or even better especially at this stage in Brady's career.

All i know is Curtis Painter while an improvement over Kerry Collins and everything but he still not very good at all.Don't expect Victory.

by **conversationpc** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:34 pm

mikemarrs wrote:I think for some crazy reason Manning is hoping the team will be winning and he can swoop in and seal the deal with a couple victories in December.The thing is they will not even have a winning record unless here soon they all the sudden decide to grab someone good like a Carson Palmer or Brett Favre.Thing is Kerry Collins was a bad choice i know because i watched him here in Tennessee.Anyway if they get someone with talent at QB i do believe the Colts can win a few games.Heard rumors of the grabbing David Garrard and he is a definite improvement over Collins.For all we know Indy has something up their sleeves that they are not telling.

At first i thought they might be in the Suck for Luck thing where the worst team gets Andrew Luck but they did some interviews recently with the Colts brass and they seem to think Peyton still has four or five years left once he heals.The Colts brass pointed out that Tom Brady missed all of 2008 and he came back just as good or even better especially at this stage in Brady's career.

All i know is Curtis Painter while an improvement over Kerry Collins and everything but he still not very good at all.Don't expect Victory.

I don't think anyone, including Manning, is holding out any hope of returning this season. In my opinion, the only reason they don't just flat out say he isn't coming back this year is because they want the fans to believe there might be a chance. I don't buy it.

by **Enigma869** » Sun Oct 02, 2011 6:04 am

Fact Finder wrote:John from Boston 29 -18*

That asterisk makes me laugh every time I see it. For the record, I picked Green Bay to win the opening Thursday night game (just not here). The NFL season kicked off on Thursday, September 8th, which also happens to be the very same day that my daughter was born, so I was a bit absent checking in with predictions.

by **Enigma869** » Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:27 pm

Saints at Jaguars - One very good team against another not so good team. Saints by 17.

Vikings at Chiefs - The battle of 0-6. Don't really like either of these teams, but one of them must win (Yes Donovan, ties can also happen). Vikings by 1.

Panthers at Bears - I think while Chicago isn't a great team, their defense is good enough to mystify a rookie QB. Bears by 10.

Titans at Browns - In spite of both teams being 2-1, I'm not sold on either of them. Hasselbeck is playing really well, while Chris Johnson is proving to be a stiff after signing the big contract. Titans win a close one by 4.

Steelers at Texans - I've always liked the Texans, but they never seem to be able to beat the really good teams. That said, I'm not convinced Pittsburgh is a "really good team". I think the Steelers are still good enough to be in the mix with all the other teams competing for a playoff spot. I'm not sure that the Steelers have the players to cover a guy like Andre Johnson. I think this is a close game and the Texans win by 3.

49ers at Eagles - Hopefully Vick will do a lot less whining this week and actually play football. San Francisco is an improving team. The Eagles are an established team. Eagles by 14.

Redskins at Rams - I'm really tempted to pick the Rams in an upset, but I just can't see where the big plays are going to come from. Skins by 10.

Bills at Bengals - This game will probably end up being very close. Buffalo may be too busy patting themselves on the back for beating the Patriots and allow the woeful Bengals to hang around longer than they should in this game. Bills by 7.

Lions at Cowboys - I continue to love Detroit and continue not to love Dallas, so Detroit should win going away. Now the reality...this is the NFL, and that's not how things go. I see Detroit slipping up in this one and the Cowgirls winning by 7.

Giants at Cardinals - I see this as a very close matchup. You never know which Giants team will decide to show up. Cardinals by 3.

Falcons at Seahawks - Atlanta really needs to get their act together against a lousy Seattle team. Falcons by 10.

Broncos at Packers - I see the Packers remaining undefeated against a bad Broncos team. Green Bay by 13.

Patriots at Raiders - Two of the five worse defenses in the NFL, thusfar. I think this is a really bad matchup for the Raiders. They are the best rushing team in the league and nobody really knows much about the Patriots' run defense, because everyone who plays them passes for 400 yards against them. Oakland simply doesn't have the players to get into a shootout with New England. McFadden is a really good player but will be rendered a complete non-factor if the Patriots get up by two TD's. Patriots by 17.

Dolphins at Chargers - Miami will be one of the teams vying for the overall number one pick. Their team seems to get worse season after season. While the Chargers historically underachieve, they win this one by 17.

Jets at Ravens - I really like Baltimore's team. They appear to be the most well rounded team in the AFC, thusfar. The Jets need to play with a huge sense of urgency this week, coming off of the loss to Oakland, and New England on the schedule for next week. Even with the Jets' desperation, the Ravens are the better team and win by 3.

Colts at Buccaneers - The Colts are simply a REALLY bad team and are going to be overmatched by almost any team that they play. Bucs by 10.

by **YoungJRNY** » Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:40 pm

Saints at Jaguars - On paper, New Orleans should destroy the Jags by a large margin. Saints by 23.

Vikings at Chiefs - The Vikings are kind of like the Buffalo Bills of 2010. A team that has leads but just isn't good enough to hold and win them. IMHO, the Chiefs finish with the league's worst record. Vikings by 10.

Panthers at Bears - The Bears need to bounce back quick in the red-hot NFC North and if they want to compete in their division, they must beat a bad Panthers team regardless of how many yards Newton throws for. Bears by 14.

Titans at Browns - Good matchup on paper. Both defense's have been quite surprises and the two respective QB's on each team has been playing well as a whole. I just think Tennessee is more polished at this point with Johnson ready to break out sooner or later as a weapon for the Titans. Titans by 6.

Steelers at Texans - I had the Steelers losing to Houston before the season and I stick by that, especially with the Steelers offensive line woes. They are just despicable and as far as that bad unit last week? 2 of them went down to injury so that means those two bums who got annihilated last week is being replaced by depth who couldn't beat them out for a starting position. Mario Williams is licking his chops. On defense, the Steelers will struggle to go up against a balanced offense like Houston's, kind of like how they struggled with Balty in week one. Hope I'm wrong. Houston by 14.

49ers at Eagles - Phildelphia needs to bounce back after they needed to a week ago as it was. A tough NFC matchup but those Philly fans will demand a lot and the Eagles must meet them somewhere in the middle against a team they should be able to beat in the ground. Eagles by 10.

Redskins at Rams - Skins are an underrated bunch at this point in time. Their defensive units are playing very solid and Bradford is having his toughest year as a pro. No solid weapons for St.Louis in their arsenal. Redskins by 14.

Bills at Bengals - Cincy secretly has been performing on defense but Fitzpatrick seems to be just getting started in Buffalo. I don't think the Bengals has what it takes to get into a high-scoring bid with an experienced team at doing so. Bills by 10.

Lions at Cowboys - The media is pumping Romo's "heroics" and talking Dallas up, hoping they become relevant again. Both teams are fighting for a spot in the NFC right now in tough divisions. Last week, I had Detroit slipping up but they ended up pulling it out. They are going to have to slide eventually and Dallas is a team playing well enough at the moment to give good competition. Dallas by 7.

Giants at Cardinals - Arizona was supposed to be THAT team in that weak ass NFC West once they grabbed Kolb from Philly but their whole team just seems to not be in sync with the rest of the league. Losing to a horrible Seattle Seahawks team this early is the sign of a pretty bad football team. The Giants are an underrated bunch. Giants by 14.

Falcons at Seahawks - No panic in Atlanta just yet but if they fall in this one, the button would be red hot. Falcons by 17.

Broncos at Packers - Denver has no answers for Green Bay the entire ways around the field. Not one department of their football team screams to give any mis-matches against the most solid team in football. Packers by 20.

Patriots at Raiders - With Brady in the lineup, I do NOT remember a time where the Brady/Bellichick regime lost 2 games in a row. It's just un-heard of. With that said, this is a very intriguing matchup. Oakland is becoming the "Black Hole" again for opposing teams and there are mis-match's for both teams on the field. New England better be careful here, this could be two upsets in a row but I don't see it. Brady's too good to turn the ball over that many times again, which kept Buffalo in the game in the first place. Patriots by 13.

Dolphins at Chargers - The Dolphins are just searching for any kind of answer. Soprano is on his way out and it seems Miami stopped playing for the guy in week 1 after Brady's 500 yard performance. San Diego isn't all that great either, but their better than the Phins. Chargers by 10.

Jets at Ravens - One of the best head to heads in week 4. Baltimore is becoming one of the toughest places to play in the NFL. I'm not totally sold on them whatsoever. Flacco tends to really cough up the football and Ryan's defense looks to rebound against a mistake-prone quarterback of the Ravens, especially with pressure in his face. Holmes torches the Ravens secondary yearly and every good team has responded the following week after getting a bad beat-down. Jets by 3.

Colts at Buccaneers - Colts gave it their all against Pittsburgh on Sunday Night. Going on the road, it'll be tougher for those rush ends to anticipate the snap count. The Colts barely score in this one. Bucs by 16.

by **mikemarrs** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:41 am

Looks like Andre Johnson could be hurt for the Houston Texans.C'mon Pittsburgh your only down by ten.

by **S2M** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:49 am

Houston needs a new O Coordinator. Seriously. When was the last time Schaub attempted a pass?

by **YoungJRNY** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:19 am

Watching that slop and we lose by 7? How is that remotely possible? That should be 2 weeks in a row to where the Steelers play a good team, they get blown out by 30 or more points, EASILY. That offensive line is complete vomit. Ben won't finish this season. At the rate the Steelers are going, they'd be lucky to win 7 games.

by **mikemarrs** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:25 am

If you would've told me the Titans would be 3-1 at this point i would've asked what you were smoking.Before the season all the media and most fans were predicting the team would be one of the worst.We didn't get a lot of time together as a team because of the stoppage then you had Chris Johnson holding out not to mention him being horrible at RB.Another crazy stat is i would've never believed it if someone told me through three games that he would carry the ball nearly 50 times and not even have 100 yards total rushing but the team would be 3-1.

Two things have helped Tennessee get to 3-1.The first is Matt Hasselbeck who is ranked in the top five quarterbacks right now and is playing outstanding.Second thing is this Tennessee team being ranked first in total defense so far.Scary thing is this team is looking good on both sides of the ball.

Next stop:Tennessee at Pittsburgh next Sunday afternoon.

Good luck Trav.gonna be a smash mouth game like always.

by **YoungJRNY** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:28 am

mikemarrs wrote:If you would've told me the Titans would be 3-1 at this point i would've asked what you were smoking.Before the season all the media and most fans were predicting the team would be one of the worst.We didn't get a lot of time together as a team because of the stoppage then you had Chris Johnson holding out not to mention him being horrible at RB.Another crazy stat is i would've never believed it if someone told me through three games that he would carry the ball nearly 50 times and not even have 100 yards total rushing but the team would be 3-1.

Two things have helped Tennessee get to 3-1.The first is Matt Hasselbeck who is ranked in the top five quarterbacks right now and is playing outstanding.Second thing is this Tennessee team being ranked first in total defense so far.Scary thing is this team is looking good on both sides of the ball.

Next stop:Tennessee at Pittsburgh next Sunday afternoon.

Good luck Trav.gonna be a smash mouth game like always.

Tennessee is playing good defensive ball and Hasselbeck uses that west coast type style as a weapon. Tennessee in the upset next week. Pittsburgh got NOTHING on offense. The line is the worst I've ever seen a line operate. Never have I see guys get bull rushed or just standing around watching their QB get rocked all game in my life. Steelers are bad.

by **mikemarrs** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:30 am

YoungJRNY wrote:Watching that slop and we lose by 7? How is that remotely possible? That should be 2 weeks in a row to where the Steelers play a good team, they get blown out by 30 or more points, EASILY. That offensive line is complete vomit. Ben won't finish this season. At the rate the Steelers are going, they'd be lucky to win 7 games.

Got a dilemma there before next season.They are going to have to overhaul that whole line after the season.They need to draft some linemen bad and maybe pick some up in free agency or Big Ben won't make it too long before he gets hit by injuries.Steelers had this problem last time you faced us but that day your line actually played very well.

by **Enigma869** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:52 am

YoungJRNY wrote:
Tennessee in the upset next week.

I'm not so sure about that. As I've already said, this isn't that good of a Steelers team, given where they were a year ago. That said, they have some real cupcakes on the schedule this season, so they'll be fine. They've already played the god-awful Colts and Seattle, and still have the likes of the Bengals twice, Chiefs, and the Rams. I also think Cleveland isn't as good as their early season record indicates and they play them twice.

by **Enigma869** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:54 am

Fact Finder wrote:How bout them Bengals?

I should have went with my gut and simply picked the Bills to lose this game outright after last week's game. I probably would have picked any other team to beat the Bills this week, but it's impossible for me to pick the Bengals to beat anyone.

by **RedWingFan** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:11 am

The Raiders and the Officiating Crew 10, New England 7. :lol:

by **S2M** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:50 am

I think the NFL can stop mentioning, and running graphics about how Tony Homo has the best 4th Quarter QB rating in the league....

Dude rivals Roethlisberger as a TO machine....

by **Ehwmatt** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:27 am

Enigma869 wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
Tennessee in the upset next week.

I'm not so sure about that. As I've already said, this isn't that good of a Steelers team, given where they were a year ago. That said, they have some real cupcakes on the schedule this season, so they'll be fine. They've already played the god-awful Colts and Seattle, and still have the likes of the Bengals twice, Chiefs, and the Rams. I also think Cleveland isn't as good as their early season record indicates and they play them twice.

This sentence gives us TOO MUCH credit. We are a fucking terrible team. We have taken a few steps back from last year. So far, the lone bright spot on the team is Joe Haden, who is playing at a Pro Bowl level. Otherwise, we are fucking putrid. This supposed "west coast offense" looks terrible. Maybe it's a personnel issue, maybe it's coaching, maybe a bit of both. Whatever the case, terrible.

by **YoungJRNY** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:18 am

Fact Finder wrote:Big Ben on crutches and in a walkng boot on the plane.

He's lucky that's all it was. Dude is the next incarnation of what David Carr went through. Blows my mind how the guy stays competitive and plays the way he does when he has to defend off beasts coming off the edge un-touched. Another thing that drives me insane is that shit-head Arians knows that his offensive line plays like women and still runs his receivers 15 yards downfield without any dump off option. Retarded.

by **S2M** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:22 am

Flaccid v. Dirty Sanchez

Who ya got???

by **mikemarrs** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:55 am

by AR » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:06 am

mikemarrs wrote:Jets

Ravens

by **Enigma869** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:16 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
This sentence gives us TOO MUCH credit. We are a fucking terrible team.

I thought about that as soon as I wrote it, Matt. That said, 2 and 2 for the Girl Scouts is actually quite the accomplishment, given their recent past.

by AR » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:57 am

Baltimore Colts fight song being played right now

by **YoungJRNY** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:08 pm

Feels like I'm watching the Steelers/Ravens all over again. Jets putting on the same performance Pittsburgh did in week 1. No offensive line whatsoever.

by **Enigma869** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:34 pm

YoungJRNY wrote:Feels like I'm watching the Steelers/Ravens all over again. Jets putting on the same performance Pittsburgh did in week 1. No offensive line whatsoever.

There isn't a single stand out team to me in the AFC. Of all the teams I've watched, I like the Ravens in the AFC. That said, their offense (beyond Rice) is pretty average, so they can be beat just as quickly as any other team in the NFL. So far, only Green Bay has really separated themselves. The Patriots are in a whole lot of trouble with a REALLY bad defense and now Jerod Mayo out 6 to 8 weeks now with an MCL. On another note, congrats to Tom Brady for passing Joe Montana on the all-time list for TD passes.

by AR » Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:56 pm

RAVENS!

by **S2M** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:59 pm

AR wrote:RAVENS!

Nevermore..... :lol:

by AR » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:01 pm

S2M wrote:
AR wrote:RAVENS!

Nevermore.....

by AR » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:47 pm

J E T S, Jets, jets, jets......

MR

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