President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[7 Wishes]

Dig into the numbers more, and you'll see that more than 60% of registered Republicans showed up to vote, compared to 45% of Democrats. That shows what an inept candidate Cock-ley was.

[artist4perry]

Dig into the numbers more, and you'll see that more than 60% of registered Republicans showed up to vote, compared to 45% of Democrats. That shows what an inept candidate Cock-ley was.

Bottom line.........folks are fed up. All parties. Only a few sheep still baaaaaaaaaaaa with the herd. Maybe, just maybe, people don't want the Nanny Government to tuck them in while systematically plucking their wallets. Come on 7 can you not see that folks are angry about government spending? Smart guy like you.............

[7 Wishes]

Wow, if they are angry about government spending NOW, imagine how mad they'll be eight years ago!

Only during the war years of 1943-1945 was government spending a larger percentage of the GDP. The CBO estimates that Obama's economic policies will reduce the Bushian 29% of GDP to 24% by 2012. But, that doesn't count, does it? Because a Republican did it?

[artist4perry]

Wow, if they are angry about government spending NOW, imagine how mad they'll be eight years ago!

Only during the war years of 1943-1945 was government spending a larger percentage of the GDP. The CBO estimates that Obama's economic policies will reduce the Bushian 29% of GDP to 24% by 2012. But, that doesn't count, does it? Because a Republican did it?

Sugar, I was pissed off at Bush for his spending too. But we don't need to put out the fire he started with gasoline now do we? Doing that only turns a blaze into an inferno. If you believe spending will be reduced at all in our lifetime at this rate, you need to get a job with the Easter bunny and Santa.

[7 Wishes]

IMO, the GOP are a bunch of unprincipled goons who cater to the lowest common denominator, and the Dems are a collection of feeble-minded closet authorotarians...and pussies to boot.

[artist4perry]

IMO, the GOP are a bunch of unprincipled goons who cater to the lowest common denominator, and the Dems are a collection of feeble-minded closet authorotarians...and pussies to boot.

So .........lets pitch them all out and start over.........what do ya think?

[7 Wishes]

Agreed! Bring back the Whigs and Federalists.

[artist4perry]

Agreed! Bring back the Whigs and Federalists.

I am not wearing any stinking Whig....... Turning in for the night.........nice debating with ya!

[Ehwmatt]

I saw this interview with Stephanopolus this morning...Obama is losing his mind if he believes this...

President Obama said Wednesday that the anger that elected Brown is the same anger that elected him, and it goes back eight years. In other words, Massachusetts has elected its first Republican senator since the 1970s because it was still mad at George W. Bush

LOL. Please tell me this quote is taken out of context. Does anyone really believe this long-legged buffoon graduated from Harvard? LOL!!!!!!!

[donnaplease]

I saw this interview with Stephanopolus this morning...Obama is losing his mind if he believes this...

President Obama said Wednesday that the anger that elected Brown is the same anger that elected him, and it goes back eight years. In other words, Massachusetts has elected its first Republican senator since the 1970s because it was still mad at George W. Bush

LOL. Please tell me this quote is taken out of context. Does anyone really believe this long-legged buffoon graduated from Harvard? LOL!!!!!!!

Hilarious. I guess the teleprompter wasn't nearby...

[squirt1]

Obama doesn't get that this is about all the $$$$ he and HIS congress spend to buy votes. Closed door sessions = transparency,surrounding himself with other incompentents= U S security, a justice dept that reads miranda rights to terrorists that are in a religious war with us and would not even get Geneva convention rights. Oh, then we will put a BIG target on New York and try 5 of the high value terrorists there. I don't know how I can stand 3 more years of this. The upcoming elections are going to make Mass. look like a picnic.

[T-Bone]

Saw this as a facebook status message and thought it was pretty funny

Remember when Reagan was president? We still had Bob Hope and Johnny Cash too... Now we have Obama, and No Hope And No Cash!

[Lula]

Dow tumbles 200 points on Obama's latest assault on banks

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/d ... ZHUkGlnPPK

Obama is only restoring Great Depression regulations that Clinton and the GOP overturned, and had served us well for years. That’s not an assault on banks.
Alan Greenspan and Paul Volcker, no lefties by any stretch, would call it a return to common sense. If these policies had remained in place, the economy would likely not be in its current shape. For all the trans-partisan spin about the tea party peeps, you guys sound awfully alot like the same old Bush crew.

[7 Wishes]

Keep in mind Reagan actually proposed $200 billion MORE in spending during his 8 years than Congress put through. Now THAT sounds like a spendocrat.

Also, your boy W there, who got us into this mess in the first place, doubled the size of the federal government. Clinton streamlined the government and slashed spending from 1992 levels, and the number of federal employees decreased dramactically during his Administration.

W also instituted the highest percentage spending (expressed as a percentage of the GNP) of government spending to 29% - a level only eclipsed during the last three years of World War II. Obama's plan would reduce that number FIVE POINTS in three years, which would also be the most dramatic REDUCTION per year in modern history.

So, again, the GOP lambasts Democrats for their "tax and spend" policies - yet Trent Lott recently defended the Bush-endorsed Medicare Drug Supplement Act (which was barely passed through Congress) that had NO CONTROLS - saying that "back then (during the Bush Administration) it was customary to pass legislation that could not be paid for." In other words, anything that would just automatically add to the National Debt. Obama's plans all have, at least in priciple, a way to pay for themselves.

So stop your self-congratulatory and masturbatory double-speak. Your party thrives on scare tactics and lies, without either of which would have rendered the GOP non-existant twenty years ago.

[RocknRoll]

Dow tumbles 200 points on Obama's latest assault on banks

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/d ... ZHUkGlnPPK

Obama is only restoring Great Depression regulations that Clinton and the GOP overturned, and had served us well for years. That’s not an assault on banks.
Alan Greenspan and Paul Volcker, no lefties by any stretch, would call it a return to common sense. If these policies had remained in place, the economy would likely not be in its current shape. For all the trans-partisan spin about the tea party peeps, you guys sound awfully alot like the same old Bush crew.

Actually John McCain(R)-Marie Cantwell(D) already sponsored a similiar bill which Obama refused to support. Suddenly Obama decides to throw his own version out there without warning which caused the problems in the markets. Like they say timing is everything and O is still trying to find a villian for folks to hate besides him. Perhaps Obama might want to just consider the economy first for a change. The timing of this annoucement couldn't have been worse. Watch lending tighten up now.

Also, under the new Obama proposal this could impact smaller regional banks which could be a serious concern.

http://www.thegarlandgroup.net/2009/12/ ... wspaper-4/

[7 Wishes]

Well, W certainly knew how to put the economy first. The greatest defecit spender in history, by a large margin.

[RocknRoll]

Well, W certainly knew how to put the economy first. The greatest defecit spender in history, by a large margin.

The issue is we should first be focusing on strengthening the economy untill the job markets have become stable rather than placing blame and than work on cleaning up some of the other issues. A lot of the problems are lessened if we have a fully employed tax paying America. This is not a good time to just throw this out there especially since no one knows how it would even work and it could disrupt the economy even further.

[donnaplease]

Well, W certainly knew how to put the economy first. The greatest defecit spender in history, by a large margin.

Sincere question, Daniel...

How much of that spending was related to the wars and our national defense?

[Lula]

Actually John McCain(R)-Marie Cantwell(D) already sponsored a similiar bill which Obama refused to support.

And plenty of other financial advisors supported the reinstatement of Glass-Steagall waaay earlier than that.
It was McCain, after all, who only recently pushed Phil Gramm as Treasury Secretary - the very same Gramm who was fundamental in getting banking firewalls repealed in the first place.
So who cares what he thinks?
After selling what was left of his blackened soul on the '08 campaign trail, McCain is now desperately trying to reclaim his maverickiness.
He faces a hard right teabagging primary challenger coming up.
No matter who wants credit for it, dividing the banks is a LONG overdue reform.

Suddenly Obama decides to throw his own version out there without warning which caused the problems in the markets.

Dow dropped 200 points yesterday, too. Even as putative experts like Jim Cramer were saying Brown's election win would cause a huge rally. Nobody knows anything. Obama has raised more money from Wall Street than any other president in history, and he has showered them with taxpayer money. The recent 15 month high speaks for itself.
If nothing else, this past year should crystalize the fact that the health of Wall Street doesn’t necessarily correlate with the health of Main Street.
When even a career supply-sider like Alan Greenspan is saying "put the screws to 'em", you best listen.

...and O is still trying to find a villian for folks to hate besides him.

He could always crib a page from the Bush playbook, and demonize some of his fellow citizens and support a constitutional amendment against them getting married.
Or, maybe he could break out the tacky color coded terror charts, and spook Americans into making convenience mart runs just to kick the ass of the brown-skinned guy behind the counter.
Thankfully, Obama, like his political hero Lincoln, prefers to appeal to the better angels of our nature.
Hope and change and all that good stuff, remember?
Leave fear to the GOP.
After the Great Recession disproved the myth of self-regulating markets once and for all, it’s the only card they have left in the deck.

[RossValoryRocks]

Well, W certainly knew how to put the economy first. The greatest defecit spender in history, by a large margin.

Ahhh yes...the Bush boogieman...The new lib mantra..."When we fuck up...blame Bush"

I doubt anyone here is a huge Bush fan...he certainly wasn't what he portrayed himself to be fiscally.

Is a piss poor argument as he isn't President anymore...and Obama and the democrat controlled congress have done NOTHING to improve shit.

Quit living in the past 7...Here and now is the important thing...You libs sound like children when you pull out the "But but but HE DID IT FIRST!" bullshit.

[RossValoryRocks]

Dow tumbles 200 points on Obama's latest assault on banks

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/d ... ZHUkGlnPPK

Obama is only restoring Great Depression regulations that Clinton and the GOP overturned, and had served us well for years. That’s not an assault on banks.
Alan Greenspan and Paul Volcker, no lefties by any stretch, would call it a return to common sense. If these policies had remained in place, the economy would likely not be in its current shape. For all the trans-partisan spin about the tea party peeps, you guys sound awfully alot like the same old Bush crew.

Ahhh yess...someone else posting on Lula's account...(note the use of caps and the separation of diffent pieces of the quotes people) I wonder who it is...it's not Deano...hmmmm...perhaps...TNC in disguise???

Use your own account asshole.

[RedWingFan]

Ahhh yess...someone else posting on Lula's account...(note the use of caps and the separation of diffent pieces of the quotes people) I wonder who it is...it's not Deano...hmmmm...perhaps...TNC in disguise???

Use your own account asshole.

EXACTLY what I thought while I was reading this!

He could always crib a page from the Bush playbook, and demonize some of his fellow citizens and support a constitutional amendment against them getting married.
Or, maybe he could break out the tacky color coded terror charts, and spook Americans into making convenience mart runs just to kick the ass of the brown-skinned guy behind the counter.
Thankfully, Obama, like his political hero Lincoln, prefers to appeal to the better angels of our nature.
Hope and change and all that good stuff, remember?
Leave fear to the GOP.
After the Great Recession disproved the myth of self-regulating markets once and for all, it’s the only card they have left in the deck.

[conversationpc]

Ah, yes...It's good to see you guys are carrying on the bickering, arguing, and general overall negativity without my assistance. One of these days, I may come back and do my part as well.

[Voyager]

Saw this as a facebook status message and thought it was pretty funny

Remember when Reagan was president? We still had Bob Hope and Johnny Cash too... Now we have Obama, and No Hope And No Cash!

Yeah, but we lost both Hope and Cash under Dubya's watch.

[RedWingFan]

Ah, yes...It's good to see you guys are carrying on the bickering, arguing, and general overall negativity without my assistance. One of these days, I may come back and do my part as well.

That's if you are really you! Turns out Lula is really TNC......or TNC is really Lula.

[Monker]

For all the trans-partisan spin about the tea party peeps, you guys sound awfully alot like the same old Bush crew.

EXACTLY. And, I find it ironic that the Republican philosphies that truely brought us the financial crisis are demanding that they know best how to fix it.

[Monker]

Watch lending tighten up now.

Oh, please! They are already tightened up. THAT IS THE MAIN COMPLAINT. A few weeks ago I was listening to Trump say he has projects ON HOLD because no banks will lend money...and it's not just him. But, according to Trump, NO small or large business can get a loan Here we have banks with such huge profits and giving huge bonuses REFUSING to make loans to companies to help create jobs and expand the economy. So, of course they are going to be called 'fat cat bankers'. That is exactly how they are acting.

So, he wants to stop banks from becoming market speculators and making risky investments. I don't see anything wrong with that. Why shouldn't a bank be just a bank? Why shouldn't an investment company be just an invetment company and not a bank as well? NEITHER should be taking your deposits and making investments into the stock market.

[Monker]

Well, W certainly knew how to put the economy first. The greatest defecit spender in history, by a large margin.

Ahhh yes...the Bush boogieman...The new lib mantra..."When we fuck up...blame Bush"

I doubt anyone here is a huge Bush fan...he certainly wasn't what he portrayed himself to be fiscally.

Is a piss poor argument as he isn't President anymore...and Obama and the democrat controlled congress have done NOTHING to improve shit.

Quit living in the past 7...Here and now is the important thing...You libs sound like children when you pull out the "But but but HE DID IT FIRST!" bullshit.

FOUR YEARS into W's presidency Republicans were blaming Clinton for Bush's economic issues.

Give it a rest...Obama inherited the worst economy since Reagan. Blaming Obama for economic problems one year into his prsidency is no different then blaming Reagan for economic issues one year into his presidency. The simple truth is that if the economy is on track and propering in two years, the Republicans have no chance at the presidency...No more then Mondale, or Dole - for the exact same reasons.

[artist4perry]

Both sided suck at times. Both are foulable, and geez don't be a sheep for either. If you truely put blinders on and think any party is without faults you are gullable.

[RedWingFan]

Well, W certainly knew how to put the economy first. The greatest defecit spender in history, by a large margin.

Ahhh yes...the Bush boogieman...The new lib mantra..."When we fuck up...blame Bush"
I doubt anyone here is a huge Bush fan...he certainly wasn't what he portrayed himself to be fiscally.
Is a piss poor argument as he isn't President anymore...and Obama and the democrat controlled congress have done NOTHING to improve shit.
Quit living in the past 7...Here and now is the important thing...You libs sound like children when you pull out the "But but but HE DID IT FIRST!" bullshit.

FOUR YEARS into W's presidency Republicans were blaming Clinton for Bush's economic issues.

Give it a rest...Obama inherited the worst economy since Reagan.

WHAT economic issues????? We were blaming Clinton for the 4.7% unemployment under Bush? The out of control inflation? Deflation?....The fact is Kerry couldn't even bang a drum on the economy because everything was going so well during his re-election campaign. The problem didn't surface til the bottom fell out of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac 7 years into his term. Way to just throw out another stupid example based on no fact Monker!
Yeah, they both inheritted messes, but the fact is Reagan did the right thing to get us out and Obama did the wrong thing.