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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:31 am

conversationpc wrote:I don't remember that comment, so I'll have to go back and listen and, most likely, correct your out-of-context comment.


Uh-huh.
I’m sure you’ll get back to me on that with FEMA-like speed. :roll:

The sad thing is, I’m not alone in pointing out the obvious Road to Damascus conversion Beck has recently undergone.
One can only assume the same take-orders authoritarian mindset that allowed Bush to shank this country from within, is what’s keeping you from speaking your mind.
Luckily, many independent right leaning Americans are not so easily brainwashed:

"I don't care what anyone says- Glenn beck has changed his views on things incredibly over the last little while."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQHDWJVUT1I


"Glenn Beck has changed a lot over the past year."
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread ... 523&page=2




"Glenn Beck is acting strange lately, now that you mention it."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2129045/posts


"Well, wow, what the hell happened to Beck?!"
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=180982


"I’m a big fan of Glenn Beck...However, what I’ve heard in recent weeks makes me worry..."

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conversationpc wrote:I don't particularly care who considers Nazis left or right wing. Doesn't matter to me whether Glenn's right or you are. Besides that, the Nazi party had/has similar policies to both liberals AND conservatives. Do some more research because your Wikipedia page apparently needs to be refreshed.


Sharing a video clip isn’t like starting a Karl Rove “black baby” whisper smear, or an anonymous “Obama is a foreigner” chain email you can later disown.
In the video you posted, Glenn equates leftist ideology to the Nazis.
Unless your intent was to provide more damning evidence of Beck’s dry drunk idiocy (which I doubt), presumably you agree with his comments.

conversationpc wrote:I've never said that the Bush administration didn't have some disastrous policies. You're preaching to the choir here. But if it helps you feel better, you can just continue to ignore anything I've ever said against the Bush administration.


If that’s the case, then why are you posting material that lays the blame squarely at the doorstep of Obama, and perpetuates the inflammatory myth of a “commie/Nazi/fascist” gov't hijack?

conversationpc wrote:Make up your mind, for crying out loud! Is he a corporate shill or a populist. Have you run out of your Valproic Acid prescription again?


You’re kidding, right?
The Conservative Movement has been rife with hypocrisy ever since Reagan merged the party of small government with bedroom legislating holy rollers.
For a more recent example, witness the pro-torture Limbaugh being awarded the Constitution award at CPAC.
If anything, Beck’s ideological dichotomy makes him fit in all the more snuggly.

conversationpc wrote:Carry on...I'll be back when Glenn says something anti-corporate again. :lol:


Kinda like when he blamed the Madoff scandal entirely on the gov't, and not Wall Street Piggery? (http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articl ... 198/19974/)
Or, do you mean like the time when Beck accused Wal-mart of making a deal with terrorists for dropping a lawsuit against a brain damaged cripple who's son was killed in Iraq? (http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articl ... /198/8199/)
Gee, if I didn't know any better I'd mistake Beck for a modern day Teddy Roosevelt. :roll:

And by the way, if Pretzel boy didn't appoint cronies to the SEC, the same way he did FEMA, then white collar cops on the beat could've taken Madoff down
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Postby conversationpc » Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:38 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:As the intellectually honest StrangeGrey has mentioned...


You know, I was thinking about this part of your comment earlier. Even though I vehemently disagree with you on almost everything political, I've never had the thought come to mind that you were being intellectually DIShonest. I've never been intellectually dishonest here, either, and it certainly doesn't become an intelligent person such as yourself, to insinuate that others of us of the conservative persuasion are not being intellectually honest.
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Postby S2M » Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:40 am

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The_Noble_Cause wrote:As the intellectually honest StrangeGrey has mentioned...


You know, I was thinking about this part of your comment earlier. Even though I vehemently disagree with you on almost everything political, I've never had the thought come to mind that you were being intellectually DIShonest. I've never been intellectually dishonest here, either, and it certainly doesn't become an intelligent person such as yourself, to insinuate that others of us of the conservative persuasion are not being intellectually honest.


I agree Dave.....but each have their own underlying agendas. :idea:
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Postby conversationpc » Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:52 am

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conversationpc wrote:I don't remember that comment, so I'll have to go back and listen and, most likely, correct your out-of-context comment.


Uh-huh.
I’m sure you’ll get back to me on that with FEMA-like speed. :roll:


I'm listening to Tuesday's show right now. :lol:

One can only assume the same take-orders authoritarian mindset that allowed Bush to shank this country from within, is what’s keeping you from speaking your mind.


As I said previously, I've always spoken my mind here. It seems more like a desperate, insecure attempt on your part to ruffle your own feathers or beat your chest to somehow prove your superiority.

In the video you posted, Glenn equates leftist ideology to the Nazis.
Unless your intent was to provide more damning evidence of Beck’s dry drunk idiocy (which I doubt), presumably you agree with his comments.


Only in your pink polka-dot world does posting a video seem akin to 100% agreement on all subject matter contained therein. Try pulling your head out of the oven long enough to think clearly.

If that’s the case, then why are you posting material that lays the blame squarely at the doorstep of Obama, and perpetuates the inflammatory myth of a “commie/Nazi/fascist” gov't hijack?


This stuff started under Bush, something Beck has state numerous times. Of course, that's probably just more of his "drunk idiocy". :lol:

You’re kidding, right?
The Conservative Movement has been rife with hypocrisy ever since Reagan merged the party of small government with bedroom legislating holy rollers.
For a more recent example, witness the pro-torture Limbaugh being awarded the Constitution award at CPAC.
If anything, Beck’s ideological dichotomy makes him fit in all the more snuggly.


I don't care for CPAC yet I see you've conveniently tried to tie me to it. I've had little respect for that pack of rats as they seem to throw their arms around the likes of Ann Coulter.
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Postby conversationpc » Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:53 am

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The_Noble_Cause wrote:As the intellectually honest StrangeGrey has mentioned...


You know, I was thinking about this part of your comment earlier. Even though I vehemently disagree with you on almost everything political, I've never had the thought come to mind that you were being intellectually DIShonest. I've never been intellectually dishonest here, either, and it certainly doesn't become an intelligent person such as yourself, to insinuate that others of us of the conservative persuasion are not being intellectually honest.


I agree Dave.....but each have their own underlying agendas. :idea:


EVERYONE has an agenda, whether it's benign or not.
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Postby conversationpc » Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:15 am

"I don't care what anyone says- Glenn beck has changed his views on things incredibly over the last little while."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQHDWJVUT1I


Video no longer exists...Must be a conspiracy. :lol:

"Glenn Beck has changed a lot over the past year."
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread ... 523&page=2


Are you kidding me? A Ron Paul forum? I think Ron Paul is an honest guy but some of his followers are bit out there, to say the least.



OK...A link to another forum. Do you have anything good here?

"Glenn Beck is acting strange lately, now that you mention it."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2129045/posts


Yet another link to an anonymous user on a forum. :roll:

"Well, wow, what the hell happened to Beck?!"
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=180982


OK...The last post on that forum brings up a good point if you don't bother to do any research. He says Beck "hated Paul" but then introduced him with the utmost respect on a recent show. What this person didn't bother to share was that Beck agrees with Paul on most issues, other than Paul's stance that we should pull troops out of Iraq immediately and some of Paul's other foreign policy views.

Sorry, folks, nothing to see here...

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This last one's actually a well written article. However, it makes the mistake of giving the impression that Beck WANTS a revolution to occur, which is far from the truth. He is saying that if things get really bad, the people are disenfranchised enough with government that a revolution or at least widespread violence is possible.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:02 am

conversationpc wrote:You know, I was thinking about this part of your comment earlier. Even though I vehemently disagree with you on almost everything political, I've never had the thought come to mind that you were being intellectually DIShonest. I've never been intellectually dishonest here, either, and it certainly doesn't become an intelligent person such as yourself, to insinuate that others of us of the conservative persuasion are not being intellectually honest.


The incidents of my character being called into question here (as well being called a straight-out liar) are too many to count.
As far as my "intellectually honest" comment, I stand 100% behind it.
Beck's revisionist Nazi history, as well as anyone who goes along promoting it, are deserving of far sterner rebukes than that.
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Postby conversationpc » Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:17 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
conversationpc wrote:You know, I was thinking about this part of your comment earlier. Even though I vehemently disagree with you on almost everything political, I've never had the thought come to mind that you were being intellectually DIShonest. I've never been intellectually dishonest here, either, and it certainly doesn't become an intelligent person such as yourself, to insinuate that others of us of the conservative persuasion are not being intellectually honest.


The incidents of my character being called into question here (as well being called a straight-out liar) are too many to count.
As far as my "intellectually honest" comment, I stand 100% behind it.
Beck's revisionist Nazi history, as well as anyone who goes along promoting it, are deserving of far sterner rebukes than that.


Of course you stand 100% behind it. You never back off any comment because you're too proud of yourself to ever admit that you're wrong.

BTW...How does Beck's perspective on Nazis make him a "revisionist"? Lots of historians have differing opinions of the Nazis, their beliefs, etc. Does that make them "revisionists" also?
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:27 am

conversationpc wrote:
"I don't care what anyone says- Glenn beck has changed his views on things incredibly over the last little while."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQHDWJVUT1I


Video no longer exists...Must be a conspiracy. :lol:


Link works fine.

conversationpc wrote:
"Glenn Beck has changed a lot over the past year."
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread ... 523&page=2


Are you kidding me? A Ron Paul forum? I think Ron Paul is an honest guy but some of his followers are bit out there, to say the least.


Why is this Beck fan's opinion any less than yours?
Are you some sort of elitist or something?

conversationpc wrote:


OK...A link to another forum. Do you have anything good here?


Once again, these are everyday listeners just like you.
Unless you think they are stealth liberal operatives or something? :shock:

conversationpc wrote:
"Glenn Beck is acting strange lately, now that you mention it."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2129045/posts


Yet another link to an anonymous user on a forum. :roll:


Who better to point out a public figure's sudden personality disorder than the viewers at home?
If a pulitzer-winning journalist had pointed it out, you would waste no time discounting their opinion as part of the "liberal media elite."
Seems you can't take criticism of your ex-junkie leader no matter where it's from.

conversationpc wrote:
"Well, wow, what the hell happened to Beck?!"
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=180982


OK...The last post on that forum brings up a good point if you don't bother to do any research. He says Beck "hated Paul" but then introduced him with the utmost respect on a recent show. What this person didn't bother to share was that Beck agrees with Paul on most issues, other than Paul's stance that we should pull troops out of Iraq immediately and some of Paul's other foreign policy views.

Sorry, folks, nothing to see here...


Yeh, Beck agreed with Paul sooo much that during the primaries he compiled a montage of Ron Paul and mocked him on his CNN show.
It wasn't until he was bombarded with hate mail - including death threats- that suddenly he showed reverence for him.
On the Conservative spectrum, Ron Paul is about as drastic a counterpoint to Bush-style Republicanism as you can find.
The fact that Paul's own groupies now embrace Beck serves to show just what a neck-snapping turnabout Beck has made.
But this is all moot, Beck himself has acknowledged that his views have changed on more than one occassion.
You are no better than Perry or Obama's braindead zealots.

conversationpc wrote:
"I’m a big fan of Glenn Beck...However, what I’ve heard in recent weeks makes me worry..."

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This last one's actually a well written article. However, it makes the mistake of giving the impression that Beck WANTS a revolution to occur, which is far from the truth. He is saying that if things get really bad, the people are disenfranchised enough with government that a revolution or at least widespread violence is possible.


Savage called for civil war the other night.
Hannity had a poll on his website discussing types of revolution to take-up against the government.
Beck, on the other hand, is insidiously (and cowardly) flirting with the idea of revolution at the margins.
Given this country's history of politically motivated crimes, it's negligent at best, and anarchist at worst.
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Postby conversationpc » Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:51 am

Why is this Beck fan's opinion any less than yours?
Are you some sort of elitist or something?


No, but if I was someone else, I certainly wouldn't use any of my quotes as evidence of anything. :lol:

It wasn't until he was bombarded with hate mail - including death threats- that suddenly he showed reverence for him.
On the Conservative spectrum, Ron Paul is about as drastic a counterpoint to Bush-style Republicanism as you can find.
The fact that Paul's own groupies now embrace Beck serves to show just what a neck-snapping turnabout Beck has made.
But this is all moot, Beck himself has acknowledged that his views have changed on more than one occassion.
You are no better than Perry or Obama's braindead zealots.


The braindead comment coming from you is pretty priceless, but I'll digress..

Your liberal puppetmasters have pulled your strings well. As I said previously, Beck agrees with Paul on many points. If you're unwilling or unable to comprehend that or so blinded by your intellectually-lacking liberal ideaology, then there's not much that can be done for you.

Savage called for civil war the other night.


Big deal...I've said multiple times on here that I can't stand Michael Savage. Next point, please...

Hannity had a poll on his website discussing types of revolution to take-up against the government.


See last comment...

Beck, on the other hand, is insidiously (and cowardly) flirting with the idea of revolution at the margins.
Given this country's history of politically motivated crimes, it's negligent at best, and anarchist at worst.


There's always some kind of mental gymnastics going on with you, isn't there? That's about as dumb a comment as I've ever seen you make and would be akin to me saying Randi Rhodes was serious when she said that Bush should be shot. :lol:
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:55 am

conversationpc wrote:As I said previously, I've always spoken my mind here. It seems more like a desperate, insecure attempt on your part to ruffle your own feathers or beat your chest to somehow prove your superiority.


Conservative philosophy hasn't been this discredited since Black Tuesday, 1929.
"Superiority" implies that there's still some competing rivalry between the two camps.
As far as I'm concerned, the ideological clash of civilizations happened last November.
You guys lost.


conversationpc wrote:Only in your pink polka-dot world does posting a video seem akin to 100% agreement on all subject matter contained therein. Try pulling your head out of the oven long enough to think clearly.


Then you posted it because....?
Wha?
You just like seeing Beck tear down some old dude?

conversationpc wrote:This stuff started under Bush, something Beck has state numerous times.


All the while playing the Soviet anthem and giving his audience "Comrade Updates" on Obama - and, on rare occasions, even comparing his policies to the murderous reign of Hitler's Germany!

NICE.

conversationpc wrote:
You’re kidding, right?
The Conservative Movement has been rife with hypocrisy ever since Reagan merged the party of small government with bedroom legislating holy rollers.
For a more recent example, witness the pro-torture Limbaugh being awarded the Constitution award at CPAC.
If anything, Beck’s ideological dichotomy makes him fit in all the more snuggly.


I don't care for CPAC yet I see you've conveniently tried to tie me to it. I've had little respect for that pack of rats as they seem to throw their arms around the likes of Ann Coulter.


You've tied yourself to it.
Coulter, in addition to every other major speaker at CPAC, have been invited guests on Beck's program - many of them repeatedly.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:12 am

conversationpc wrote:The braindead comment coming from you is pretty priceless, but I'll digress.

Dave,
You have sat idyll by as a President you proudly voted for twice careened the ship of state headlong into a Great Depression timewarp.
Who are you to impugn the policies and thoughts of anyone sitting on the other side of the political fence?
Seriously, have some humilty, asshole.

conversationpc wrote:Your liberal puppetmasters have pulled your strings well.


I don't even know what this means.
For the most part, Paul was ignored by the media across the board.
Even by the purportedly "conservative" Sean Hannity, and for awhile there, Glenn Beck too.

conversationpc wrote:As I said previously, Beck agrees with Paul on many points. If you're unwilling or unable to comprehend that or so blinded by your intellectually-lacking liberal ideaology, then there's not much that can be done for you.


Beck claims to agree with Ron Paul on everything (aside from his protectionist foreign policy).
On the whole tho, Beck toes and espouses the party line.
Most telling, his choice of President waffled between Romney and Rudy - two guys who couldn't be further from Paul's Goldwater throwback style.
It is nothing less than pure revisionist fantasy (much like the liberal/Nazi comparisons you’re so fond of) to say Beck didn’t mock Paul initially in the primaries.
Beck even acknowledged the death threats he received after doing so.
Since then, he has been way more receptive to having Paul on both the TV and radio show.

conversationpc wrote:There's always some kind of mental gymnastics going on with you, isn't there? That's about as dumb a comment as I've ever seen you make and would be akin to me saying Randi Rhodes was serious when she said that Bush should be shot. :lol:


Not a Randi fan, but the distinction here is a salient one...
By that point in time, George Bush had the needless blood of thousands on his hands.
Obama has signed a bill to fill in a few potholes, and the calls for violence have already reached a fever pitch.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:48 am

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Postby Rick » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:50 am

Red13JoePa wrote:I could watch DaveCT and TNC argue all day.. :D


It is great entertainment. :lol:
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Postby separate_wayz » Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:20 pm

There's not much room for argument, is there.

Nazis = National Socialists
Communists = International Socialists

Two peas in a pod.

To personalize it, try Alan Bullock, Hitler and Stalin: Parallel Lives (Vintage, 1993).

http://www.amazon.com/Hitler-Stalin-Par ... 212&sr=8-1
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:24 pm

My poli sci prof always said the in the matter of left versus right...the far ends bend around and meet...so it is tough to tell the autocratic facist from the autocratic communist.
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Postby separate_wayz » Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:30 pm

RossValoryRocks wrote:My poli sci prof always said the in the matter of left versus right...the far ends bend around and meet...so it is tough to tell the autocratic facist from the autocratic communist.


"There is more that binds us to Bolshevism than separates us from it. There is, above all, genuine, revolutionary feeling, which is alive everywhere in Russia except where there are Jewish Marxists. I have always made allowance for this circumstance, and given orders that former Communists are to be admitted to the party at once. The petit bourgeois Social-Democrat and the trade-union boss will never make a National Socialist, but the Communists always will."

-- A. Hitler, quoted in Hermann Rauschning, Hitler Speaks (London: T. Butterworth, 1940)
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:03 pm

separate_wayz wrote:There's not much room for argument, is there.

Nazis = National Socialists
Communists = International Socialists

Two peas in a pod.

To personalize it, try Alan Bullock, Hitler and Stalin: Parallel Lives (Vintage, 1993).

http://www.amazon.com/Hitler-Stalin-Par ... 212&sr=8-1


Yeh, case closed I guess.
So what do you suggest we do with our Democratic socialist neighbors, (Canada, England, France, Germany etc), before they fire up the ovens? :roll:
Nazis may have came to power on a platform of socialism, but put into action, it was anything but.
They became extreme right wing i.e. fascist and used national security as the cover to dispose of anyone who stood in their way - including labor unions.
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Postby Saint John » Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:07 pm

Boy, did Hilary make a fucking ass of herself or what? :lol:
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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:09 pm

This thread is hysterical.

The Cons trying their damnedest to somehow come across as saying the GOP and conservatism is still relevant. The GOP is another Limbaugh slip of the mouth to becoming nothing but history.

It's funny to me, to see TNC and 7 Wishes completely destroy allyou Cons with utter ease. Really, TNC should have topost here high and drunk just tomake it fair.

Obama= 65% Approval rating

Democrats in Congress 56% approval rating
GOP in Congress= 36% approval rating.

The Stimulus succeeds, goodbye GOP.
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:13 pm

Rockindeano wrote:This thread is hysterical.

The Cons trying their damnedest to somehow come across as saying the GOP and conservatism is still relevant. The GOP is another Limbaugh slip of the mouth to becoming nothing but history.

It's funny to me, to see TNC and 7 Wishes completely destroy allyou Cons with utter ease. Really, TNC should have topost here high and drunk just tomake it fair.

Obama= 65% Approval rating

Democrats in Congress 56% approval rating
GOP in Congress= 36% approval rating.

The Stimulus succeeds, goodbye GOP.


Obviously you already are high or drunk...or both...

Cite your facts...other than the Obama approval rating...which by the way is the exact same as both Bush Presidents were at this point of their first 6 months of their Presidencies.

The Stimulus is going to kill this country asswhipe...just wait and see...inflation out the ying-yang...fuck out dollar is going to be about worthless....
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:15 pm

separate_wayz wrote:"There is more that binds us to Bolshevism than separates us from it. There is, above all, genuine, revolutionary feeling, which is alive everywhere in Russia except where there are Jewish Marxists. I have always made allowance for this circumstance, and given orders that former Communists are to be admitted to the party at once. The petit bourgeois Social-Democrat and the trade-union boss will never make a National Socialist, but the Communists always will."

-- A. Hitler, quoted in Hermann Rauschning, Hitler Speaks (London: T. Butterworth, 1940)


Thank you for transcribing that from your nightstand for us.
Is it the limited print edition with the custom treated jewhide cover?
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:18 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
separate_wayz wrote:"There is more that binds us to Bolshevism than separates us from it. There is, above all, genuine, revolutionary feeling, which is alive everywhere in Russia except where there are Jewish Marxists. I have always made allowance for this circumstance, and given orders that former Communists are to be admitted to the party at once. The petit bourgeois Social-Democrat and the trade-union boss will never make a National Socialist, but the Communists always will."

-- A. Hitler, quoted in Hermann Rauschning, Hitler Speaks (London: T. Butterworth, 1940)


Thank you for transcribing that from your nightstand for us.
Is it the limited print edition with the custom treated jewhide cover?


Wow dude...accusing someone of being a Nazi??? That is below even your usually lax standards...

Debate the facts...leave the ad hominems at the door...
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Postby Saint John » Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:19 pm

Rockindeano wrote:This thread is hysterical.

The Cons trying their damnedest to somehow come across as saying the GOP and conservatism is still relevant. The GOP is another Limbaugh slip of the mouth to becoming nothing but history.

It's funny to me, to see TNC and 7 Wishes completely destroy allyou Cons with utter ease. Really, TNC should have topost here high and drunk just tomake it fair.

Obama= 65% Approval rating

Democrats in Congress 56% approval rating
GOP in Congress= 36% approval rating.

The Stimulus succeeds, goodbye GOP.


Conservatism wins regardless of which party is in office. It's a lifestyle that rejects handouts and government dependence. I'm really not bothered by Obama being in office. Other than him lowering mortgage payments for people that decided to get in over their heads I really have no complaints. Besides, watching the Dow tumble like the skier on the opening of the old "Wide World Of Sports" intro is actually kind of fun. Investors have wholeheartedly rejected his policies and are running for shelter with their money. Bailing out companies that have failed will do nothing more than allow them to fail again. He should have given that money to those whose company policies succeeded. But rewarding success and good business practice is clearly something he's against.
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Postby Behshad » Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:24 pm

Saint John wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:This thread is hysterical.

The Cons trying their damnedest to somehow come across as saying the GOP and conservatism is still relevant. The GOP is another Limbaugh slip of the mouth to becoming nothing but history.

It's funny to me, to see TNC and 7 Wishes completely destroy allyou Cons with utter ease. Really, TNC should have topost here high and drunk just tomake it fair.

Obama= 65% Approval rating

Democrats in Congress 56% approval rating
GOP in Congress= 36% approval rating.

The Stimulus succeeds, goodbye GOP.


Conservatism wins regardless of which party is in office. It's a lifestyle that rejects handouts and government dependence. I'm really not bothered by Obama being in office. Other than him lowering mortgage payments for people that decided to get in over their heads I really have no complaints. Besides, watching the Dow tumble like the skier on the opening of the old "Wide World Of Sports" intro is actually kind of fun. Investors have wholeheartedly rejected his policies and are running for shelter with their money. Bailing out companies that have failed will do nothing more than allow them to fail again. He should have given that money to those whose company policies succeeded. But rewarding success and good business practice is clearly something he's against.



well said Dan, well said
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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:31 pm

RossValoryRocks wrote:
Cite your facts...other than the Obama approval rating...which by the way is the exact same as both Bush Presidents were at this point of their first 6 months of their Presidencies.


Well you need to explain why that was Stu. The Bush boys had high approvals because they were new...they hadn't yet spent a whisper of their new political capital. Obama has spent a trillion dollars of his and still has enough in the political bank.

The Stimulus is going to kill this country asswhipe...just wait and see...inflation out the ying-yang...fuck out dollar is going to be about worthless....


Shall I call you Rush, Sean or Glenn? it is going to save this nation, despite what all you conservatives yell. I find it funny that your guy and your party started this quicksand of an economy and the black guy who the GOP despises, has to fucking save it from the abyss.

The stimulus will work, the economy will turnaround, and he will get reelected as will the Congressional Dems.

Your best bet is to hope for an assassination, and I'm sure rush and Hannity would party well into the night if that happens.
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:35 pm

Rockindeano wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:
Cite your facts...other than the Obama approval rating...which by the way is the exact same as both Bush Presidents were at this point of their first 6 months of their Presidencies.


Well you need to explain why that was Stu. The Bush boys had high approvals because they were new...they hadn't yet spent a whisper of their new political capital. Obama has spent a trillion dollars of his and still has enough in the political bank.

The Stimulus is going to kill this country asswhipe...just wait and see...inflation out the ying-yang...fuck out dollar is going to be about worthless....


Shall I call you Rush, Sean or Glenn? it is going to save this nation, despite what all you conservatives yell. I find it funny that your guy and your party started this quicksand of an economy and the black guy who the GOP despises, has to fucking save it from the abyss.

The stimulus will work, the economy will turnaround, and he will get reelected as will the Congressional Dems.

Your best bet is to hope for an assassination, and I'm sure rush and Hannity would party well into the night if that happens.


Yeah ok...what did you do with the BS in Poli Sci wipe your ass after one of those tremendously large shits you take pictures of??? :lol:

Even some of the Dems are beginning to rebel a bit.

Give it time...Obama will NEVER be successful governing from the left.

He said he was a centrist...he made a TON of promises and appear to be keeping NONE of them.

I told you before...when he does the right thing I will be right there cheering him on...and when he fucks up I am going to bash him.

The stimulus is going to wreck our country and drive our economy even further into the shitter.
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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:37 pm

LOL, dude, it's a BA in Pol Sci not a BS.

Oh by the way, I don't know if you have noticed this, but Capitalism is all but dead.
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:43 pm

Rockindeano wrote:LOL, dude, it's a BA in Pol Sci not a BS.

Oh by the way, I don't know if you have noticed this, but Capitalism is all but dead.


And you are rejoicing at capitalism dying? OhhhK...and for you it is a BS...because your special... :lol:
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