Honk if you haven't had sex with Tiger Woods

[Ehwmatt]

So if your girlfriend, after catching you in bed with someone, scratched your lip and chased you outside, you would turn her into the police for domestic violence?

First of all, I don't cheat.

Second of all, if it turns out she was nuts enough to try and brutally assault me with a blunt force weapon and luckily only slightly injured me, I damn well probably would turn her into the police!

This scratching the lip card you're playing conveniently forgets that she used a golf club. It's not like she took a swipe at his face or slapped him.

Again, let me flip the situation:

If your boyfriend/husband catches you in bed with someone or just gets mad at you for whatever reason that would justify a reasonable person getting very angry, he tried to hit you with a golf club, frying pan, or baseball bat, and luckily only cut you up a bit, you would feel comfortable and safe?

wait, wait, wait. Who said she used a golf club on him. That's the jokes, never fact. It was a scratch, causing it to bleed slightly. She was in the golf cart chasing him and broke the windows with the clubs. If she had used a nine iron on him, there would not have been a scratch in his mouth. There would have been bruises. You're acting like it's fact she did. And if she slapped him, hell,yes, I would have slapped him too if I caught him texting the woman that it was put in the Enquirer he was having an affair with. Absolutely, I would have slapped him, hard.

Here's my point: You're going down a dangerous road condoning women assaulting men. As you've admitted, men are generally bigger and stronger than their female partners. There are a lot of men who don't take kindly to getting hit. Frankly, if a woman were ever slapping me or throwing shit at me repeatedly and not letting up, I would have to at least forcibly pin her down and make her stop at that point. With domestic violence, the passions are running red hot and shit can get out of control real quick. Both parties should be equally deterred from perpetrating it.

[Saint John]

When your desire for sex is greater than honoring and respecting the vow of marriage to the woman that is at home raising your kids you do not need rehab. You need your ass kicked. I really wish she would have beaten him far worse.

You know, this got me thinking... have you ever realized all the excuses that psychiatric medicine has created for shitty behavior in our modern society? ADHD, sex addiction, general insanity, schizophrenia, bipolar, sociopathy, narcissism, oppositional defiant disorder... fuckin list of excuses goes on... 99% of that shit is pure unsubstantiated BS. They can't even prove what chemically causes a lot of these "illnesses."

I'm a HUGE fan of violence when it comes to problem solving. I have friends that like to make excuses for the way people behave, much like you listed above. It's amazing what a good shot right in the fucking face will do. It works especially well with loud mouths in bars.

My ex-girlfriend's dad was a real asshole and treated his ex wife like shit, his kids like shit and everyone he worked and drank with like shit. He was diagnosed with depression, bi-polar, manic-depressive and a few other things, but when he got the holy hell kicked out of him in the bar I worked at (broken nose, a few broken bones in his face and stomped in the ribs with a bar stool, breaking about 3) his whole fucking attitude seemed to change overnight. He really became gun shy about opening his yapper again. Old fashioned medicine at its finest.

Yeah. My problem is that if women are allowed to knock their men upside the head when they get pissed at them, a good slap or a nice rap to the side of the head should be permissible for men. I don't condone domestic violence from either side of the coin.

My ex used to try and give me a good crack every now and then and I used to just taunt her. Unless you're dating Chyna or you're a sissy like JasonD there's no reason to ever let a woman beat your ass.

[Ehwmatt]

My ex used to try and give me a good crack every now and then and I used to just taunt her. Unless you're dating Chyna or you're a sissy like JasonD there's no reason to ever let a woman beat your ass.

No, but I mean if they get pissed at you and they whip a big pot at your head, that can fuck you up even if you're dating Shakirah. At that point, they have opened the door in my eyes. Fair is fair.

[StevePerryHair]

It's been said that people with a concussion can sleep and snore that way. Explain how he didn't even hit anything hard enough for an airbag to go off yet he was unconscious.....I highly doubt she only scratched his lip but who knows. Who cares. This story is so old by now.

They said he didn't have a concussion at the hospital, that he needed no medical attention. And it was on the news tonight that FHP had suspected he was under the influence but didn't have enough evidence to bet a blood sample and they wouldn't agree to it.

how could the hospital say these things with patient confidentiality? Is it because it was in the police report? I do know that's public record.

Just seems to me he was protecting her. Maybe guilt? Hard to believe such a minor accident would have had him passed out. I highly doubt he passed out from alcohol. They were said to be arguing outside too.

[Ehwmatt]

It's been said that people with a concussion can sleep and snore that way. Explain how he didn't even hit anything hard enough for an airbag to go off yet he was unconscious.....I highly doubt she only scratched his lip but who knows. Who cares. This story is so old by now.

They said he didn't have a concussion at the hospital, that he needed no medical attention. And it was on the news tonight that FHP had suspected he was under the influence but didn't have enough evidence to bet a blood sample and they wouldn't agree to it.

how could the hospital say these things with patient confidentiality? Is it because it was in the police report? I do know that's public record.

Just seems to me he was protecting her. Maybe guilt? Hard to believe such a minor accident would have had him passed out. I highly doubt he passed out from alcohol. They were said to be arguing outside too.

What's your take on the issue Lynn? How about your husband's? Should women be given more leeway (or any at all) when it comes to hitting a man?

[Jana]

So if your girlfriend, after catching you in bed with someone, scratched your lip and chased you outside, you would turn her into the police for domestic violence?

First of all, I don't cheat.

Second of all, if it turns out she was nuts enough to try and brutally assault me with a blunt force weapon and luckily only slightly injured me, I damn well probably would turn her into the police!

This scratching the lip card you're playing conveniently forgets that she used a golf club. It's not like she took a swipe at his face or slapped him.

Again, let me flip the situation:

If your boyfriend/husband catches you in bed with someone or just gets mad at you for whatever reason that would justify a reasonable person getting very angry, he tried to hit you with a golf club, frying pan, or baseball bat, and luckily only cut you up a bit, you would feel comfortable and safe?

wait, wait, wait. Who said she used a golf club on him. That's the jokes, never fact. It was a scratch, causing it to bleed slightly. She was in the golf cart chasing him and broke the windows with the clubs. If she had used a nine iron on him, there would not have been a scratch in his mouth. There would have been bruises. You're acting like it's fact she did. And if she slapped him, hell,yes, I would have slapped him too if I caught him texting the woman that it was put in the Enquirer he was having an affair with. Absolutely, I would have slapped him, hard.

Here's my point: You're going down a dangerous road condoning women assaulting men. As you've admitted, men are generally bigger and stronger than their female partners. There are a lot of men who don't take kindly to getting hit. Frankly, if a woman were ever slapping me or throwing shit at me repeatedly and not letting up, I would have to at least forcibly pin her down and make her stop at that point. With domestic violence, the passions are running red hot and shit can get out of control real quick. Both parties should be equally deterred from perpetrating it.

I am not condoning it, but I am not going to be all politcally correct across the board. There are shades of gray re this violence by a woman on a man thing. And so in this particular instance, I don't think she should be charged. And I guarantee you Tiger knows he pushed her to the limit and is blaming himself for everything. She's the mother of his children and he has demeaned her and humiliated her and disrespected her. And you think she should be charged for domestic violence with no injuries to speak of? I highly doubt he does, even if he received more than a slap. He knows what he has done to her.

[DrFU]

Women shouldn't be allowed to assault their partners any more than men can.

It's just so humiliating for her, and she has two babies ... he never even broke stride in his serial banging of bar chicks after he married, and his "apology" suuuuucked. I think many of us would like to think she teed off on him and give her a pass on it.

But, no, you don't get to hit people you profess to love no matter who you are or what the circumstances; it just ain't right.

[Ehwmatt]

I am not condoning it, but I am not going to be all politcally correct across the board. There are shades of gray re this violence by a woman on a man thing. And so in this particular instance, I don't think she should be charged. And I guarantee you Tiger knows he pushed her to the limit and is blaming himself for everything. She's the mother of his children and he has demeaned her and humiliated her and disrespected her. And you think she should be charged for domestic violence with no injuries to speak of? I highly doubt he does, even if he received more than a slap. He knows what he has done to her.

As a matter of law, absolutely she should be charged, especially in Florida. There were injuries, likely more than a scratch on the lip as you keep saying, but we don't know the full extent yet. However minor they were, she still injured him and was intending to do a lot more chasing him with the golf club in hand.

[Ehwmatt]

Women shouldn't be allowed to assault their partners any more than men can.

It's just so humiliating for her, and she has two babies ... he never even broke stride in his serial banging of bar chicks after he married, and his "apology" suuuuucked. I think many of us would like to think she teed off on him and give her a pass on it.

But, no, you don't get to hit people you profess to love no matter who you are or what the circumstances; it just ain't right.

Right, I don't condone his actions AT ALL if you read through the thread. He is the scum of the earth as far as I'm concerned, even if he only actually slept with half of the bimbos that are coming out of the wood work. You just can't have different standards for stuff like this, we already have enough double standards in society and they are killing us.

[StevePerryHair]

My ex used to try and give me a good crack every now and then and I used to just taunt her. Unless you're dating Chyna or you're a sissy like JasonD there's no reason to ever let a woman beat your ass.

No, but I mean if they get pissed at you and they whip a big pot at your head, that can fuck you up even if you're dating Shakirah. At that point, they have opened the door in my eyes. Fair is fair.

I agree with you Matthew. I realize heat of the moment something else can take over and a person can lose it. But that doesn't make it right. Battery is battery. If she'd killed him or if he had one mark on her we'd be talkng about jail for one of them. Though I think women usually do lose out in these situations. Like the woman who ran over and killed her cheating husband. I'm sure people sympathized but that didn't make it right. Who knows if she did anything but I don't get all the wishes for hoping she bashed him worse. No matter what he did he is still a human being and we have laws that say it's wrong for a reason.

[StevePerryHair]

Women shouldn't be allowed to assault their partners any more than men can.

It's just so humiliating for her, and she has two babies ... he never even broke stride in his serial banging of bar chicks after he married, and his "apology" suuuuucked. I think many of us would like to think she teed off on him and give her a pass on it.

But, no, you don't get to hit people you profess to love no matter who you are or what the circumstances; it just ain't right.

Right, I don't condone his actions AT ALL if you read through the thread. He is the scum of the earth as far as I'm concerned, even if he only actually slept with half of the bimbos that are coming out of the wood work. You just can't h
ave different standards for stuff like this, we already have enough double standards in society and they are killing us.

you know what amazes me. How many Americans are horrified when they hear a person is stoned in another country for committing adultery. Calling it barbaric. Yet they could condone this? Wow.

[Saint John]

I am not condoning it, but I am not going to be all politcally correct across the board. There are shades of gray re this violence by a woman on a man thing. And so in this particular instance, I don't think she should be charged. And I guarantee you Tiger knows he pushed her to the limit and is blaming himself for everything. She's the mother of his children and he has demeaned her and humiliated her and disrespected her. And you think she should be charged for domestic violence with no injuries to speak of? I highly doubt he does, even if he received more than a slap. He knows what he has done to her.

As a matter of law, absolutely she should be charged, especially in Florida. There were injuries, likely more than a scratch on the lip as you keep saying, but we don't know the full extent yet. However minor they were, she still injured him and was intending to do a lot more chasing him with the golf club in hand.

Fuck that. Put me on her jury and I'm kicking my legs up and winking to her with a "You aint got shit to worry about, Elin" smirk on my face. The punishment should fit the crime and what he did to her mentally more than warrants an ass kicking. I'm giving her a "heat of passion" pass on this one. Can you even imagine the depths of betrayal she must've felt??? His actions were an indictment against her as a woman and a wife, and she had to feel completely worthless. But she's not ... he is.

[Ehwmatt]

I am not condoning it, but I am not going to be all politcally correct across the board. There are shades of gray re this violence by a woman on a man thing. And so in this particular instance, I don't think she should be charged. And I guarantee you Tiger knows he pushed her to the limit and is blaming himself for everything. She's the mother of his children and he has demeaned her and humiliated her and disrespected her. And you think she should be charged for domestic violence with no injuries to speak of? I highly doubt he does, even if he received more than a slap. He knows what he has done to her.

As a matter of law, absolutely she should be charged, especially in Florida. There were injuries, likely more than a scratch on the lip as you keep saying, but we don't know the full extent yet. However minor they were, she still injured him and was intending to do a lot more chasing him with the golf club in hand.

Fuck that. Put me on her jury and I'm kicking my legs up and winking to her with a "You aint got shit to worry about, Elin" smirk on my face. The punishment should fit the crime and what he did to her mentally more than warrants an ass kicking. I'm giving her a "heat of passion" pass on this one. Can you even imagine the depths of betrayal she must've felt??? His actions were an indictment against her as a woman and a wife, and she had to feel completely worthless. But she's not ... he is.

Right, and she can have a sympathetic jury work out her punishment, if at all. I don't disagree with a word you said regarding her betrayal, but it's a dangerous precedent to laugh off an attempted violent assault because "he deserved it" and because she's a "cute little thing" and a beautiful woman. She needs to at least be charged so a dangerous precedent isn't established.

[Jana]

I am not condoning it, but I am not going to be all politcally correct across the board. There are shades of gray re this violence by a woman on a man thing. And so in this particular instance, I don't think she should be charged. And I guarantee you Tiger knows he pushed her to the limit and is blaming himself for everything. She's the mother of his children and he has demeaned her and humiliated her and disrespected her. And you think she should be charged for domestic violence with no injuries to speak of? I highly doubt he does, even if he received more than a slap. He knows what he has done to her.

As a matter of law, absolutely she should be charged, especially in Florida. There were injuries, likely more than a scratch on the lip as you keep saying, but we don't know the full extent yet. However minor they were, she still injured him and was intending to do a lot more chasing him with the golf club in hand.

Fuck that. Put me on her jury and I'm kicking my legs up and winking to her with a "You aint got shit to worry about, Elin" smirk on my face. The punishment should fit the crime and what he did to her mentally more than warrants an ass kicking. I'm giving her a "heat of passion" pass on this one. Can you even imagine the depths of betrayal she must've felt??? His actions were an indictment against her as a woman and a wife, and she had to feel completely worthless. But she's not ... he is.

Right, and she can have a sympathetic jury work out her punishment, if at all. I don't disagree with a word you said regarding her betrayal, but it's a dangerous precedent to laugh off an attempted violent assault because "he deserved it" and because she's a "cute little thing" and a beautiful woman. She needs to at least be charged so a dangerous precedent isn't established.

I am telling you, Matt, when the day comes that say you're married and say you DID cheat with a bimbo, and she caught you and you ended up with a cut lip and being chased with a golf club, and you really love her, and if you are telling me you are calling the police, I will never believe you.

[Ehwmatt]

I am telling you, Matt, when the day comes that say you're married and say you DID cheat with a bimbo, and she caught you and you ended up with a cut lip and being chased, and you really love her, and if you are telling me you are calling the police, I will never believe you.

So if she chases after me with another deadly weapon, say a gun, aiming at me and trying to shoot me or grazes my ear or shoulder, I'll let that slide too I'm sure. She was chasing him with a weapon that had the easy potential to be deadly. Your constant denigration of the seriousness of intent is laughable.

Anyway, while you're at it, what else is in your crystal ball for me? Can you pick 6 for my lotto numbers?

[StevePerryHair]

Well not that anyone cares what I have to say but with a minor injury I do think he owed it to her to protect her in this particular situation. But if she really did beat the crap out of him or more like some here would love to have seen, then no way. Two wrongs don't make a right.

[Ehwmatt]

Well not that anyone cares what I have to say but with a minor injury I do think he owed it to her to protect her in this particular situation. But if she really did beat the crap out of him or more lime some here would love to have seen, then no way. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Jana's looking at it very myopically from the little facts we do know. I'm looking at a big picture thing. You can't tell people it's ok to try and beat the shit out of a spouse and get off scot free because they didn't succeed in causing a lot of damage.

[Jana]

I am telling you, Matt, when the day comes that say you're married and say you DID cheat with a bimbo, and she caught you and you ended up with a cut lip and being chased, and you really love her, and if you are telling me you are calling the police, I will never believe you.

So if she chases after me with another deadly weapon, say a gun, aiming at me and trying to shoot me or grazes my ear or shoulder, I'll let that slide too I'm sure. She was chasing him with a weapon that had the easy potential to be deadly. Your constant denigration of the seriousness of intent is laughable.

Anyway, while you're at it, what else is in your crystal ball for me? Can you pick 6 for my lotto numbers?

Here you are, a gift:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFBZ_uAbxS0

[Ehwmatt]

I am telling you, Matt, when the day comes that say you're married and say you DID cheat with a bimbo, and she caught you and you ended up with a cut lip and being chased, and you really love her, and if you are telling me you are calling the police, I will never believe you.

So if she chases after me with another deadly weapon, say a gun, aiming at me and trying to shoot me or grazes my ear or shoulder, I'll let that slide too I'm sure. She was chasing him with a weapon that had the easy potential to be deadly. Your constant denigration of the seriousness of intent is laughable.

Anyway, while you're at it, what else is in your crystal ball for me? Can you pick 6 for my lotto numbers?

Here you are, a gift:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFBZ_uAbxS0

Well I'm off to bed, it's been fun.

Long live the rule of law !

[StevePerryHair]

Well not that anyone cares what I have to say but with a minor injury I do think he owed it to her to protect her in this particular situation. But if she really did beat the crap out of him or more lime some here would love to have seen, then no way. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Jana's looking at it very myopically from the little facts we do know. I'm looking at a big picture thing. You can't tell people it's ok to try and beat the shit out of a spouse and get off scot free because they didn't succeed in causing a lot of damage.

I do agree only they didn't have witnesses to say that's what happened. So it's Tiger letting her off. Not the law in this case. They would need definite proof, an eye witness, or his words and imagine if he did that to her? A WAY bigger backlash than he's already living!

[Ehwmatt]

Well not that anyone cares what I have to say but with a minor injury I do think he owed it to her to protect her in this particular situation. But if she really did beat the crap out of him or more lime some here would love to have seen, then no way. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Jana's looking at it very myopically from the little facts we do know. I'm looking at a big picture thing. You can't tell people it's ok to try and beat the shit out of a spouse and get off scot free because they didn't succeed in causing a lot of damage.

I do agree only they didn't have witnesses to say that's what happened. So it's Tiger letting her off. Not the law in this case. They would need definite proof, an eye witness, or his words and imagine if he did that to her? A WAY bigger backlash than he's already living!

That's the thing, if it were him catching her cheating and "minorly cutting her lip," while raging after her with a golf club, he'd be fucked even more than he is now. That can't fly. Ok bed for real now!

[StevePerryHair]

Well not that anyone cares what I have to say but with a minor injury I do think he owed it to her to protect her in this particular situation. But if she really did beat the crap out of him or more lime some here would love to have seen, then no way. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Jana's looking at it very myopically from the little facts we do know. I'm looking at a big picture thing. You can't tell people it's ok to try and beat the shit out of a spouse and get off scot free because they didn't succeed in causing a lot of damage.

I do agree only they didn't have witnesses to say that's what happened. So it's Tiger letting her off. Not the law in this case. They would need definite proof, an eye witness, or his words and imagine if he did that to her? A WAY bigger backlash than he's already living!

That's the thing, if it were him catching her cheating and "minorly cutting her lip," while raging after her with a golf club, he'd be fucked even more than he is now. That can't fly. Ok bed for real now!

no I meant if he told the police she hit him and she was charged! It's not even about protecting her but himself too. People would hate him MORE if possible if he was responsible for having her charged. This way at least people can say he showed a little honor after all of it, right?

[Don]

http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/news/story?id=4722218

A Florida trooper who suspected Tiger Woods was driving under the influence sought a subpoena for the golfer's blood results from the hospital he was taken to after crashing his SUV, but prosecutors rejected the petition for insufficient information, according to a police report released Monday.

A witness, who wasn't identified in the report, told trooper Joshua Evans that Woods had been drinking alcohol earlier. The same witness also said Woods had been prescribed two drugs, Ambien and Vicodin.

The report did not say who the witness was but added it was the same person who pulled Woods from the vehicle after the accident outside his home. Woods' wife, Elin, has told police that she used a golf club to smash the back windows of the Cadillac Escalade to help her husband out.

"Impairment of the driver is also suspected due to the careless driving that resulted in the traffic crash," Evans wrote in the report dated Nov. 30 that was released by the State Attorney General's office.

Vicodin and Alcohol, now that may explain why he was snoring.

[Jana]

http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/news/story?id=4722218

A Florida trooper who suspected Tiger Woods was driving under the influence sought a subpoena for the golfer's blood results from the hospital he was taken to after crashing his SUV, but prosecutors rejected the petition for insufficient information, according to a police report released Monday.

A witness, who wasn't identified in the report, told trooper Joshua Evans that Woods had been drinking alcohol earlier. The same witness also said Woods had been prescribed two drugs, Ambien and Vicodin.

The report did not say who the witness was but added it was the same person who pulled Woods from the vehicle after the accident outside his home. Woods' wife, Elin, has told police that she used a golf club to smash the back windows of the Cadillac Escalade to help her husband out.

"Impairment of the driver is also suspected due to the careless driving that resulted in the traffic crash," Evans wrote in the report dated Nov. 30 that was released by the State Attorney General's office.

Vicodin and Alcohol, now that may explain why he was snoring.

Tom Cruise can help him.

[Don]

http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/news/story?id=4722218

A Florida trooper who suspected Tiger Woods was driving under the influence sought a subpoena for the golfer's blood results from the hospital he was taken to after crashing his SUV, but prosecutors rejected the petition for insufficient information, according to a police report released Monday.

A witness, who wasn't identified in the report, told trooper Joshua Evans that Woods had been drinking alcohol earlier. The same witness also said Woods had been prescribed two drugs, Ambien and Vicodin.

The report did not say who the witness was but added it was the same person who pulled Woods from the vehicle after the accident outside his home. Woods' wife, Elin, has told police that she used a golf club to smash the back windows of the Cadillac Escalade to help her husband out.

"Impairment of the driver is also suspected due to the careless driving that resulted in the traffic crash," Evans wrote in the report dated Nov. 30 that was released by the State Attorney General's office.

Vicodin and Alcohol, now that may explain why he was snoring.

Only Tom Cruise can help him.

[StevePerryHair]

You can only force someone to give a blood alcohol test if there is death or serious bodily injury to another person during the accident in the state of Florida. If it's a one car crash he would have needed serious bodily injury which they are saying he did not. Law says they shouldn't have tested him. Oh and a cop would have needed to witness his driving too. Laws are complicated.

[Don]

Sounds like she didn't hit him at all. He's going to have more than a bloody lip from an iron hitting him. A thin club like that can cause a lot of damage as it's light enough to be swung with enormous speed even by a smaller person. With his short hair, a blow to to his head is going to be noticeable, I would think. If it was at his face it would have knocked his teeth out or broken some of his facial bones, not just cut his lip.

[StevePerryHair]

Sounds like she didn't hit him at all. He's going to have more than a bloody lip from an iron hitting him. A thin club like that can cause a lot of damage as it's light enough to be swung with enormous speed even by a smaller person. With his short hair, a blow to to his head is going to be noticeable, I would think. If it was at his face it would have knocked his teeth out or broken some of his facial bones, not just cut his lip.

I'm not sure if she hit him or not and there's no point in debating that anyway it seems. But did anyone ask why she had to break out 2 windows when the vehicle was in such a minor crash to get him out? I'd say she was at least swinging

[Don]

Sounds like she didn't hit him at all. He's going to have more than a bloody lip from an iron hitting him. A thin club like that can cause a lot of damage as it's light enough to be swung with enormous speed even by a smaller person. With his short hair, a blow to to his head is going to be noticeable, I would think. If it was at his face it would have knocked his teeth out or broken some of his facial bones, not just cut his lip.

I'm not sure if she hit him or not and there's no point in debating that anyway it seems. But did anyone ask why she had to break out 2 windows when the vehicle was in such a minor crash to get him out? I'd say she was at least swinging

She probably wanted to hit him but by that time, he had already done himself in.

[Don]

What's the difference between a golf ball and an Escalade?





Tiger can drive a golf ball 300 yards.