President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[The_Noble_Cause]

Geezus...the Huffington Post??? Bwahhahaha...you discredit yourself right there...biased...partisan...and has been caught out at manipulating things...just a tad above supermarket tabloids...Now if there is a cooborating story from AP or Reuters? Yes I searched, nothing from objective media at all. Every site I see that has it is some left wing nut house...make you wonder.

Man you libs and your lib sources...the same reason I will never use a Fox News commentator such as Hannity, as a source, unless the story is also being ran by AP or something...biased sources are not reliable, and the Huffington Post is EVERY bit as bad as Fox's 8:00 to 11:00 commentators for the bias and you know it.

The video footage is actually from CNN's broadcast of Palin's speech last nite.
If that's not good enough, try CSPAN, Fox News, or MSNBC footage instead.
They're all the same.
I caught it live on CSPAN last nite.
When she glanced at her hand, it looked bad, but I gave her the benefit of the doubt.
That close-up photo, however, def. clinches it.

Nobody is saying her speech should've been memorized.
In fact, she did use notes for her speech at the podium, like all politicians do.
But to read your hand during a 20 minute softball Q&A session? C’mon!
It's almost as if this woman WANTS to be a national laughing stock.

NOW if you want to bash Palin for something, how about her letting Rush off the hook about using retard, while hopping all over Dead Fish??? I hate that kind of thing personally...and just shows me Palin is just another politician, and no more deserving of praise than any of the rest of them.

Liars should be called out, but the PC stuff has gotta stop.
If Emannuel had said “fucking retard” at a press conference, or was caught on tape, maybe she would have a case.
As it is, her facebook demand for Rahm's head is out of line.
The story, while probably true, is reported as second-hand hearsay.
Everybody says "fag" and "retard" (or worse) in private.
Hell, there was even an anecdote of Palin calling Obama a “sambo” in private.
By her own ridiculous standard, she should’ve been forced to quit the governorship right then and there.

[treetopovskaya]

Energy, Tax Cuts, Lift American Spirit.

That is an awful lot to have to remember.
I would have to write that down as well.

hehehee. }:C))

snl is going to have fun with this.

[treetopovskaya]

good on sarah for saving a tree... writing on her hand instead of wasting paper. }:CP

those weren't answers to questions... looked like issues she didn't want to forget to bring up.

[The_Noble_Cause]

good on sarah for saving a tree... writing on her hand instead of wasting paper. }:CP

Actually, her speech notes were written on paper.
Nice spin tho.

those weren't answers to questions... looked like issues she didn't want to forget to bring up.

If you didn't watch it, don't bullshit those who did.
She was asked a question, floundered, and then looked to her hand for help.
That's not acceptable for a kid delivering a senior project, much less a speaker being paid a cool 100K.
It's not the end of the world, but it is further proof that this woman is everything her detractors say she is.

[donnaplease]

Let me ask a question, though, Lu. Regarding your last statement about 'Papa Bush', if he had not of 'abandoned them' and had gone into Iraq in 1991 during the first gulf war, do you think he would've been perceived the same way as 'baby Bush' ( ) by his detractors? There are parallels there, don'tcha think?

when papa bush had his war he did it with an international coalition through diplomacy, even though it might have been about the oil fields in kuwait... i do not see any parallels. the sudden withdrawal of support for the people rising up against saddam was a tragedy and could very well be the reason the population harbors resentment towards our country this time around. it's safe to say i'm not a big supporter of war and the loss of life.

I guess what I'm referring to is that if Papa Bush (still love that name!) would've entered Iraq with the purpose of regime change, then his detractors would have probably said that he had no business doing that. WMD's aside, atrocities were still being committed by Saddam and his boys at the time Baby Bush invaded, but many have said that putting a stop to them was not enough to justify entering there. That's the parallel I'm talking about. And it would have happened, it's the nature of American politics...

[The_Noble_Cause]

I guess what I'm referring to is that if Papa Bush (still love that name!) would've entered Iraq with the purpose of regime change, then his detractors would have probably said that he had no business doing that. WMD's aside, atrocities were still being committed by Saddam and his boys at the time Baby Bush invaded, but many have said that putting a stop to them was not enough to justify entering there. That's the parallel I'm talking about. And it would have happened, it's the nature of American politics...

I don't see the parallel.
By their own accounts, Bush I, Brent Scowcroft, and even Dick Cheney were against invading Iraq at that time.
It was a bad idea then, and nothing, not even 9-11, changes that.

[treetopovskaya]

was energy, tax cuts, lift american spirit the answers to any of the questions asked?

[donnaplease]

good on sarah for saving a tree... writing on her hand instead of wasting paper. }:CP

Actually, her speech notes were written on paper.
Nice spin tho.

those weren't answers to questions... looked like issues she didn't want to forget to bring up.

If you didn't watch it, don't bullshit those who did.
She was asked a question, floundered, and then looked to her hand for help.
That's not acceptable for a kid delivering a senior project, much less a speaker being paid a cool 100K.
It's not the end of the world, but it is further proof that this woman is everything her detractors say she is.

As much as I like Sarah Palin as a person and think she has been unmercifully dragged through the mud, I don't think she'll ever hold another political office. I don't believe she exudes the strength that is needed to hold the highest office in our land. Now, having said that, I don't believe Hillary does either, although she is much more of a ball-breaker. I watch Palin talk, and while what she does talk about is important (family values, love of country, etc), I don't see her as able to expand her thoughts too well. She keeps going back to the same things, talking without saying a whole lot. She's still campaigning, too (just like BO). Time to move on folks, and work on the things that need to be fixed, not be stuck in perpetual campaign mode.

I honestly want to see how Scott Brown develops.

[The_Noble_Cause]

was energy, tax cuts, lift american spirit the answers to any of the questions asked?

Yup.

[donnaplease]

I guess what I'm referring to is that if Papa Bush (still love that name!) would've entered Iraq with the purpose of regime change, then his detractors would have probably said that he had no business doing that. WMD's aside, atrocities were still being committed by Saddam and his boys at the time Baby Bush invaded, but many have said that putting a stop to them was not enough to justify entering there. That's the parallel I'm talking about. And it would have happened, it's the nature of American politics...

I don't see the parallel.
By their own accounts, Bush I, Brent Scowcroft, and even Dick Cheney were against invading Iraq at that time.
It was a bad idea then, and nothing, not even 9-11, changes that.

It's easy to play Monday-morning quarterback. I just think if Bush 41 had invaded Iraq in 90/91, he would have been trashed the same way Bush 43 was, in that his detractors would've said he had no right to do it. Politics suck, and politicians are even worse!

[The_Noble_Cause]

It's easy to play Monday-morning quarterback. I just think if Bush 41 had invaded Iraq in 90/91, he would have been trashed the same way Bush 43 was, in that his detractors would've said he had no right to do it. Politics suck, and politicians are even worse!

No doubt about it, but back in 90/91, members of Bush's own team were saying it was a dumb idea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w75ctsv2oPU

[treetopovskaya]

haha! i watched the video & then read the comments... this one made me laugh...

"Well, she's not the brightest bulb; perhaps she thinks that's what a Palm Pilot is"

[treetopovskaya]

anyway... here's the REAL news of the day...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 017929.ece

[Saint John]

good on sarah for saving a tree... writing on her hand instead of wasting paper. }:CP

She didn't save shit because paper can't be wasted. It's physically fucking impossible. There will always be trees. My co-workers laugh because in 4 years there has never been one piece of paper in my "paper recycle" box next to my desk.

[7 Wishes]

How anyone can defend this woman at this juncture is befuddling. You don't see me out there trying to justify anything Pelosi or Reed say, and what they have done and said pales in comparison to Palin at her best. SOMEONE on the right PLEASE be objective JUST ONCE.

[RossValoryRocks]

How anyone can defend this woman at this juncture is befuddling. You don't see me out there trying to justify anything Pelosi or Reed say, and what they have done and said pales in comparison to Palin at her best. SOMEONE on the right PLEASE be objective JUST ONCE.

HAHAHAHA...hi Pot nice to meet you...I'm kettle.

What Pelosi and Reid have done is fuck our country...they should be arrested and tried for breaking their oaths to defend the Constitution...of course Reid will be gone come November (Welll January)...nothing Palin has done comes CLOSE to what Pelosi and Reid have done...NOTHING...

I have no desire to see Palin in any office...she has proved she is not capable...over and over...but to compare her and her foibles to Reid in Pelosi is ludicrious. The have done worse...FAR worse.

Palin has become a caricture...Pelosi and Reid run the legislative branch of government...Palin is INCAPABLE of doing anything to fuck our country...she is a commentator at best...

[Lula]

elitist? hipocrisy? oh how i've missed sarah

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/31816.html

[Lula]

rip john murtha. i didn't realize he was the first vietnam vet to serve in the congress.

[Lula]

about what people? the people that can afford $349? $549 ticket prices? yeah, just your average hard working american.

(http://tpn.eventbrite.com/?ref=eweb)

"This isn't about money; this isn't about a title," Palin told an adoring crowd at the National Tea Party Convention. "I will live, I will die for the people of America. Whatever I can do to help. This movement is the future of politics in America."

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-and- ... 7758.story

[Monker]

about what people? the people that can afford $349? $549 ticket prices? yeah, just your average hard working american.

(http://tpn.eventbrite.com/?ref=eweb)

"This isn't about money; this isn't about a title," Palin told an adoring crowd at the National Tea Party Convention. "I will live, I will die for the people of America. Whatever I can do to help. This movement is the future of politics in America."

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-and- ... 7758.story

In conclusion, may I say that under the shadow of the most horrible and destructive weapons that man has ever devised, we fight to save our country, our homes, our churches, our children. To this cause, ladies and gentlemen, I have dedicated and will continue to dedicate all that I have and all that I am.
- Joseph McCarthy
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC/murrowmccarthy2.html

Funny how fear-mongering politicians never change their rhetoric and all sound the same.

[RossValoryRocks]

rip john murtha. i didn't realize he was the first vietnam vet to serve in the congress.

Colonel Murtha (yes I am calling him by his military rank, because it suits the gentleman very much), was as fine a man as I have had the pleasure of knowing. While not without his faults, he consistently and courageously to the fight for veterans Washington. He saw that our men and women serving in uniform got what they needed when they were serving and got the things they needed to prosper after. While I differed with him on many views, the two things we consistently had in common was a love of this country and a deep respect and admiration for those who serve our country and keep us safe.

I have the honor of having saluted the man while he served in the Marine Reserves as a colonel and I will always count it as an honor to have been able to do so. God bless you Sir, Semper Fi!

[Rockindeano]

rip john murtha. i didn't realize he was the first vietnam vet to serve in the congress.

Colonel Murtha (yes I am calling him by his military rank, because it suits the gentleman very much), was as fine a man as I have had the pleasure of knowing. While not without his faults, he consistently and courageously to the fight for veterans Washington. He saw that our men and women serving in uniform got what they needed when they were serving and got the things they needed to prosper after. While I differed with him on many views, the two things we consistently had in common was a love of this country and a deep respect and admiration for those who serve our country and keep us safe.

I have the honor of having saluted the man while he served in the Marine Reserves as a colonel and I will always count it as an honor to have been able to do so. God bless you Sir, Semper Fi!

You got your power on Cue Ball?

[RossValoryRocks]

about what people? the people that can afford $349? $549 ticket prices? yeah, just your average hard working american.

(http://tpn.eventbrite.com/?ref=eweb)

"This isn't about money; this isn't about a title," Palin told an adoring crowd at the National Tea Party Convention. "I will live, I will die for the people of America. Whatever I can do to help. This movement is the future of politics in America."

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-and- ... 7758.story

In conclusion, may I say that under the shadow of the most horrible and destructive weapons that man has ever devised, we fight to save our country, our homes, our churches, our children. To this cause, ladies and gentlemen, I have dedicated and will continue to dedicate all that I have and all that I am.
- Joseph McCarthy
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC/murrowmccarthy2.html

Funny how fear-mongering politicians never change their rhetoric and all sound the same.

Monker you keep proving you are an idiot. OVER and OVER and OVER.

Many men and women have said the same thing...what is wrong with dedicating one's self to the cause of defending America as you see fit?

I know you hold all conservatives in contempt, and yes McCarthy was a evil bastard, but his words, and Sarah Palin's words though meaning the same thing, come from two differnent places I think. Why don't you put the rest of McCarthy's speech up, and all of Palin's and see if they really echo the same thing? You won't A) because they don't, B) because you are an idiot, and it would prove it.

[Saint John]

Monker you keep proving you are an idiot. OVER and OVER and OVER.

Shut up, Stu. It never gets old.

[Monker]

Many men and women have said the same thing...what is wrong with dedicating one's self to the cause of defending America as you see fit?

Nothing.

What is wrong is when politicians manipulate patriotism as a carrot to dangle in front of their countrymen in order to manipulate them into joining their cause. That is what McCarthy did...and that is what Palin is doing too.l

I know you hold all conservatives in contempt

You're wrong.

[Rockindeano]

Sorry guys, Monker is anything but an idiot. You may disagree with him politically, but the guy is pretty sharp.

[treetopovskaya]

haha! }:C)

http://twitter.com/#search?q=%234wordsonobamashand

"There are 50 states"

"Fettucine, linguine, martini, bikini"

[treetopovskaya]

obama speaking at a washington fundraiser last week (red eye transcript from last nights show)...

"I got a letter... I got a note, today, from one of my staff — they forwarded it to me — from a woman in St. Louis who had been part of our campaign, very active, who had passed away from breast cancer. She didn't have insurance, she couldn't afford it so she'd put off having... the kind of exams that she needed. And she fought a tough battle for four years; all through the campaign she was fighting it. But finally she succumbed to it. She insisted she's going to be buried in an Obama T-shirt"

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,585223,00.html

this guy... is a joke.

[hoagiepete]

obama speaking at a washington fundraiser last week (red eye transcript from last nights show)...

"I got a letter... I got a note, today, from one of my staff — they forwarded it to me — from a woman in St. Louis who had been part of our campaign, very active, who had passed away from breast cancer. She didn't have insurance, she couldn't afford it so she'd put off having... the kind of exams that she needed. And she fought a tough battle for four years; all through the campaign she was fighting it. But finally she succumbed to it. She insisted she's going to be buried in an Obama T-shirt"

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,585223,00.html

this guy... is a joke.

Can't believe this guy. I wouldn't say that in public, even if it were true.

I feel very bad for the woman if this was indeed a true story. May she RIP.

Having said that, was she "working" for his campaign and if so did he not provide insurance? If she was volunteering, why didn't she put that energy into a job that provided insurance?

[7 Wishes]

I barely see how that can be considered erudite or offensive, especially if she made that request herself.

I draw the line in the sand with you righties on this one. Come on. For every gaffe (and this doesn't qualify) from Obama, there are one hundred by the Worst President Ever.

Get over it...and try to see past your obvious prejudices. Yes, that IS what I am saying.