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Postby strangegrey » Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:03 am

FF, While I admire your tenacity. Seriously. The Global Warming...oops Climate Change farce that has been thrust on us for 2-3 decades is something that the lefties will *never* back off of. To their peril.

It's like banging your head against a brick wall and hoping to break through it. You have a better chance at cracking your skull open.

Ted Danson predicted we'd all be dead by now, drowning in melted polar ice. That hasn't happened yet....but the lefties will scream till they're blue in the face that their point is still valid. Flacid is more like it.


The Environmentalist whacko left has had to shift stances on Global Warming (I refuse to call it climate change, because that's just a desperate attempt to skew the truth) SO many times that I still find it hard to believe the world is filled with 30% idiots who will buy what fat Gore is selling.


Think about it lefties. If your woman (or man) came home and changed his/her story as many times as Al Gore has....you'd think he/she was fucking lying through his/her teeth.....yet Al Gore gets a pass! :roll:


Why that fat piece of dog shit gets such a pass is beyond me.
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Postby 7 Wishes » Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:05 pm

Again, to reiterate, strangegrey (and your post WAS well thought out although I don't agree with its conclusions)...

70% of Americans and 80% of the rest of the world, as well as ALL the sanctioned scientific bodies on earth, all believe (with good reason) that humankind is at best partially to blame for climate change. So it's YOU GUYS who are in the vast minority...the proverbial jerk circle on the MR forums notwithstanding, you need to remember that.
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Postby Saint John » Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:18 pm

7 Wishes wrote:humankind


Don't be a politically correct pussy. It's mankind! We've done everything from the greatest minds, to virtually every important invention, to leaders and conquerors to being physically superior. Acknowledge it! :lol:
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Postby steveo777 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:20 pm

Saint John wrote:
7 Wishes wrote:humankind


Don't be a politically correct pussy. It's mankind! We've done everything from the greatest minds, to virtually every important invention, to leaders and conquerors to being physically superior. Acknowledge it! :lol:


Slippery slope. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby conversationpc » Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:24 pm

7 Wishes wrote:Again, to reiterate, strangegrey (and your post WAS well thought out although I don't agree with its conclusions)...

70% of Americans and 80% of the rest of the world, as well as ALL the sanctioned scientific bodies on earth, all believe (with good reason) that humankind is at best partially to blame for climate change. So it's YOU GUYS who are in the vast minority...the proverbial jerk circle on the MR forums notwithstanding, you need to remember that.


There's too much money at stake for the man-maders to back out of their predictions willingly.
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:24 pm

7 Wishes wrote:Again, to reiterate, strangegrey (and your post WAS well thought out although I don't agree with its conclusions)...

70% of Americans and 80% of the rest of the world, as well as ALL the sanctioned scientific bodies on earth, all believe (with good reason) that humankind is at best partially to blame for climate change. So it's YOU GUYS who are in the vast minority...the proverbial jerk circle on the MR forums notwithstanding, you need to remember that.


Again...Phil Jones...the "acknowledged" AGW messiah has now recanted...because he got caught with his hand in the cookie jar...making shit up!

But you just IGNORE that part...because it doesn't fit in with the fucked up world view you espouse...
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Postby 7 Wishes » Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:37 pm

http://e360.yale.edu/images/digest/AmericansGlobalWarmingBeliefs2010.pdf

Only 1 in 5 believe that mankind has NO affect on climate change. The 23% that is "unsure" is evenly divided between people who tend to agree versus those who do not.

That means 70%. 7 in 10. Abroad it's above 80%. Fact.
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Postby 7 Wishes » Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:39 pm

RossValoryRocks wrote:
But you just IGNORE that part...because it doesn't fit in with the fucked up world view you espouse...


...that is supported by EVERY sanctioned scientific body in the world. 8 in 10 people globally, and 7 in 10 in America.

Three or four of you getting your panties tied up in a knot together doesn't change any of that. NO ONE agrees with you except your fellow Fox-worshipping dittoheads.
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Postby strangegrey » Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:41 pm

7 Wishes wrote:70% of Americans and 80% of the rest of the world, as well as ALL the sanctioned scientific bodies on earth, all believe (with good reason) that humankind is at best partially to blame for climate change. So it's YOU GUYS who are in the vast minority...the proverbial jerk circle on the MR forums notwithstanding, you need to remember that.


Um, where are your sources for these numbers....? I'd like to see the exact poll questions...

Seriously. The only reason that I can see for a 70% of all americans buying into Al Gore's failing house of cards is creative polling.


Plus, when the lead scientist behind Gore's so-called support comes out and says that Medieval times were actually hotter than now......it makes zero fucking difference what (you seem to think) people believe....Finally, such a percentage is BOUND to be squewed by the environmentalist whacko PR machine that pushed phony numbers for over 20 years.


Now that the truth is coming out...and the science behind Gore's support is evaporating (poof)....you will see a significant number of previously fooled morons who bought into the whole man-made horeshite that Gore fed them, finally wake up and change their minds.



I still find it absolutely hilarious that our stupid fucking president said "...disagree with the overwhelming scientific evidence on climate change" to choruses of laughter from both sides of the aisle.....only to watch Washington, DC get POUNDED with FIFTY FUCKING INCHES of snow less than 3 weeks later. Seriously. That should teach an inexperienced president with a non-existant voting record as a junior senator to open his fucking mouth.....But the environmentalist whackos will never learn.



See, the dirty fucking truth about environmentalists is that, just like health care, this isn't about saving the planet. This is about seizing control. Plain and simple. Control of how people live their lives, how they expend fuel that they pay for, how they use electricity that they pay for, how manufacturers make products.

When you base your policy on faulty science, the premise behind your policy needs to be called into question. You can't say "Oh, well, we did it with good intentions" despite the fact that you falisified your evidence.



This whole thing is going to actually be humorous to watch...because the pig headed lefties will die a political death over this....and the crafty fuckers will suddenly about face........Gore will actually become more of a laughing stock than George Bush.......actually scratch that, he's there already.
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:41 pm

7 Wishes wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:
But you just IGNORE that part...because it doesn't fit in with the fucked up world view you espouse...


...that is supported by EVERY sanctioned scientific body in the world. 8 in 10 people globally, and 7 in 10 in America.

Three or four of you getting your panties tied up in a knot together doesn't change any of that. NO ONE agrees with you except your fellow Fox-worshipping dittoheads.


And Phil Jones now...the guy who INVENTED, and I do mean invented, AGW...
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Postby strangegrey » Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:48 pm

7 Wishes wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:
But you just IGNORE that part...because it doesn't fit in with the fucked up world view you espouse...


...that is supported by EVERY sanctioned scientific body in the world. 8 in 10 people globally, and 7 in 10 in America.



You DO realize that 20 years ago, there wasn't a scientific body in the world that would give such an idea credance. In fact, almost every credible scientific expert on global weather laughed at the idea in the 80s. 10 years ago, maybe one or two bought into it.

Seriously, the hordes of people that you immaginarily think support the global warming farce is a manufactured number, based on 20+ years of disinformation WHICH WAS SUPPORTED BY FALSIFIED EVIDENCE. Those that held out were rewarded with glad-handing.

This so-called opinion was bought and paid for.....



Seriously. The backlash is only starting.



Seven.....If you think it's just the 'fox' crew....think again. We can table this and return in 6-12 months. Are you confident in your position enough to feel that the Global Warming hoax wont be revealed as such? I'm quite content to watch this play out.
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Postby 7 Wishes » Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:50 pm

Whatever. There remains an overwhelming amount of evidence that has nothing to do with that research that come to the same conclusions. It's kind of like saying there is no Northwest Passage because the Franklin expedition never made it back to England.
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:57 pm

7 Wishes wrote:Whatever. There remains an overwhelming amount of evidence that has nothing to do with that research that come to the same conclusions. It's kind of like saying there is no Northwest Passage because the Franklin expedition never made it back to England.


Ok smart guy...show ONE piece of evidence, that Phil Jones didn't contribute too in anyway on global warming...just ONE...that includes data and other researchers citing him...you won't find it because they ALL depended on his data...his FALSIFIED data...

How are you NOT getting this?

It's REALLY simple...they main AGW researcher LIED and falsified his data to get grant money (i.e. ENRICHED HIMSELF on the public dime), got caught and has NOW RECANTED his AGW theory...including saying it was warmer in the middle ages than now...a 180 degree turn around.
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Postby RedWingFan » Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:20 pm

7 Wishes wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:
But you just IGNORE that part...because it doesn't fit in with the fucked up world view you espouse...


...that is supported by EVERY sanctioned scientific body in the world. 8 in 10 people globally, and 7 in 10 in America.

Three or four of you getting your panties tied up in a knot together doesn't change any of that. NO ONE agrees with you except your fellow Fox-worshipping dittoheads.

7, do you think that that opinion could be caused because news outlets are literally invested in the hoax of manmade climate change???? :roll:

http://climateresearchnews.com/2010/02/ ... te-policy/
BBC Pension Funds Linked to Climate Policy
The following information is in the public domain:

About the Institutional Investors Group on Climate Change (IIGCC)

http://www.iigcc.org/index.aspx

“The Institutional Investors Group on Climate Change (IIGCC) is a forum for collaboration on climate change for European investors. The group’s objective is to catalyse greater investment in a low carbon economy by bringing investors together to use their collective influence with companies, policymakers and investors. The group currently has over 50 members, including some of the largest pension funds and asset managers in Europe, and represents assets of around €4trillion. A full list of members is available on the membership page.”

On the members page we find:

BBC Pension Trust

IIGCC’s Objectives are:

“To encourage a pro-active approach amongst asset owners and asset managers on climate change (through adapting their own investment activities and processes) in order to enhance and preserve long-term investment values.”

“To improve company disclosure/performance on climate change (in their role as shareholders and bondholders). ”

“To encourage public policy solutions that facilitate the move to a low carbon economy and are consistent with long-term investment objectives.”

We find the following on the Professional Pensions website:

http://www.professionalpensions.com/pro ... investment

Professional Pensions | 19 May 2009 | 01:00

Categories: Investment

Carbon markets need urgent changes in order to encourage institutional investment and the development of a low-carbon economy, the Institutional Investor Group on Climate Change says.

The group is calling for strong price signals and caps on carbon emissions that will encourage scarcity and demand.

IIGCC chairman and BBC head of pensions investment Peter Dunscombe said: “The credibility of emissions trading schemes would be greatly improved with a robust price signal as well as clear and frequent communication from the regulator on trading data and improved transparency over direct government participation in schemes.”

[IIGCC chairman and BBC head of pensions investment Peter Dunscombe...]

Yet: “The BBC has operated since its creation in 1927 under a Royal Charter as a public corporation. The Charter decreed that the BBC’s views be entirely independent of any private or governmental influence. It is thereby required to be free from both political and commercial influence and answer only to its viewers and listeners.” How does this square with the above?

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Postby 7 Wishes » Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:48 am

Dude, saying the science "isn't settled" is NOT an "admission" that manmade climate change isn't happening. You can't possibly extrapolate a conclusion based upon the biased musings of ultra-right wing sycophants, especially when, again - NOT ONE sanctioned scientific body agrees with you.
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Postby conversationpc » Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:09 am

7 Wishes wrote:Dude, saying the science "isn't settled" is NOT an "admission" that manmade climate change isn't happening. You can't possibly extrapolate a conclusion based upon the biased musings of ultra-right wing sycophants, especially when, again - NOT ONE sanctioned scientific body agrees with you.


Those same so-called sanctioned scientific bodies have been saying untrue things about their own hypothesis for many years now.
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:09 am

7 Wishes wrote:Dude, saying the science "isn't settled" is NOT an "admission" that manmade climate change isn't happening. You can't possibly extrapolate a conclusion based upon the biased musings of ultra-right wing sycophants, especially when, again - NOT ONE sanctioned scientific body agrees with you.


And yet you still ignore that the main proponent, next to Al Gore, has recanted his position.

Bury your head in the sand if you like, pay money to them if you like, but you and your cronies need to stay out of my wallet to fund your misguided attempt to limit freedom with junk science.
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Postby lights1961 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:53 am

I wonder how long it will be before there is a class action suit against AL GORE and everyone associated with carbon foot prints and everything else regarding a fake science... I would love to be a part of this class action law suit.
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Postby Rick » Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:04 am

Fact Finder wrote:
“No nation, however large or small, wealthy or poor, can escape the impact of climate change. Rising sea levels threaten every coastline,” Said President Obama at the G20 summit in Pittsburgh last year.


You Lie!


So you're saying the sea levels haven't risen?
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Postby 7 Wishes » Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:24 am

Uncertainty as to the exact number (speculated, of course), does NOT change the fact that sea levels ARE RISING at UNPRECEDENTED LEVELS.

The same is true for the Arctic and Antarctic ice shelves.

You and your weapons of mass distractions don't change the underlying facts.
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:46 am

7 Wishes wrote:Uncertainty as to the exact number (speculated, of course), does NOT change the fact that sea levels ARE RISING at UNPRECEDENTED LEVELS.

The same is true for the Arctic and Antarctic ice shelves.

You and your weapons of mass distractions don't change the underlying facts.


And again (and again and again) you IGNORE that the main scientists you always allude to are abandoning the AGW position in droves.

You are just parroting some liberal blog somewhere and not even reading.

Shame on you, you are smarter than that.
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:06 pm

Fact Finder wrote:One more time for effect...


Scientists have been forced to withdraw a study on projected sea level rise due to global warming after finding mistakes that undermined the findings.


Doesn't matter...7 has gone ostrich on us...he is putting his head in the sand...or fingers in his ears and going "NANANANANANANANANA I can't HEAR you"
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Postby Sarah » Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:15 am

This is something I'm sure someone else out there has thought of before me, but it's funny to me how there's such a movement against the climate change and the money to be made off of something that may not be true, when religion is an even greater moneymaking industry with government pull that's also based on something arguably fabricated, but a movement against that is quickly laughed off.
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Postby parfait » Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:29 am

Sarah wrote:This is something I'm sure someone else out there has thought of before me, but it's funny to me how there's such a movement against the climate change and the money to be made off of something that may not be true, when religion is an even greater moneymaking industry with government pull that's also based on something arguably fabricated, but a movement against that is quickly laughed off.


That's just how it is. Religion is nothing but a bunch of dumb fairytales. Those women burning, scientific hating, boy raping gang of morons should be locked behind bars, not selling t-shirts and "holy water" (tapwater) and get rich of it. I still can't understand how a priest can talk about sin; seriously, the biggest sinners in history is the church (both Christian, Muslim, Jewish and Catholic)
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Postby Duncan » Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:34 am

Sarah wrote:This is something I'm sure someone else out there has thought of before me, but it's funny to me how there's such a movement against the climate change and the money to be made off of something that may not be true, when religion is an even greater moneymaking industry with government pull that's also based on something arguably fabricated, but a movement against that is quickly laughed off.


Absolutley right.
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Postby S2M » Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:15 am

I would like to weigh in on this when I get home from work.
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Postby lights1961 » Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:36 am

Sarah wrote:This is something I'm sure someone else out there has thought of before me, but it's funny to me how there's such a movement against the climate change and the money to be made off of something that may not be true, when religion is an even greater moneymaking industry with government pull that's also based on something arguably fabricated, but a movement against that is quickly laughed off.


HUH??? the reason we are challenging climate change or global warming... is while the people who are making the policy
flies around in private jets... fancey and GAS GUSSLING SUVS... live in 5000 acre mansions using 15x more energy than the rest of us.... while THEY LECTURE US THE POISON of it all... they are doing what??? telling us we cant live that way, travel that way, even breathe that way... just saying... THATS THE WHOLE DAMN FUCKING PROBLEM I HAVE ON IT AND WHY YOU SHOULD TOO...
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Postby S2M » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:23 am

I bet 99% of the posters in this thread can't even define Global Warming, let alone expound on it....
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Postby lights1961 » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:34 am

StocktontoMalone wrote:I bet 99% of the posters in this thread can't even define Global Warming, let alone expound on it....


DEANO will... ;-)
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a man made crises, that was made up with people who have too much time on their hands...
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Postby S2M » Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:24 am

Global Warming - The theory that increased levels of CO2 and certain other gases are causing an increase in the average temperature of the earth's atmosphere because of the so-called, 'Greenhouse Effect'
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