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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:34 am

Good move by WB. Inevitable.

Batman V Superman moves to March 25th, 2016. 2 days before my birthday! Happy birthday TO ME. :lol:
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:36 am

WB's DC movie slate has been released as well. Unofficial titles, but they are set:


Untitled DC Film - 08/05/16

Untitled DC Film - 06/23/17

Untitled DC Film - 11/17/17

Untitled DC Film - 03/23/18

Untitled DC Film - 07/27/18

Untitled WB Event Film - 11/16/18

Untitled DC Film - 04/05/19

Untitled DC Film - 06/14/19

Untitled DC Film - 04/03/20

Untitled DC Film - 06/19/20

Untitled WB Event Film - 11/20/20
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby RedWingFan » Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:41 am

YoungJRNYfan wrote:WB's DC movie slate has been released as well. Unofficial titles, but they are set:

Less than 2 years away and no title, no casting, no nothing? I'm going to go out on a limb and say this is getting pushed back. lol
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:46 am

RedWingFan wrote:
YoungJRNYfan wrote:WB's DC movie slate has been released as well. Unofficial titles, but they are set:

Less than 2 years away and no title, no casting, no nothing? I'm going to go out on a limb and say this is getting pushed back. lol


The movies are set but they are being Batman v Superman centric. I was actually shocked to see anything BvS related at Comic Con being the movie 2 years away. They don't need to waste all their bullets in one Con. They need a huge impact for next year's SDCC as well so I bet they'll wait until then to bring the boom and announce their official slate then.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:47 am

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YoungJRNYfan wrote:WB's DC movie slate has been released as well. Unofficial titles, but they are set:

Less than 2 years away and no title, no casting, no nothing? I'm going to go out on a limb and say this is getting pushed back. lol


Is your name Al Zheimer? We discussed titled many pages ago in this thread. The exact title-date connections are not finalized, though the Justice League date is obvious enough. We're going to get movies that feature Shazam, Wonder Woman, a Green Lantern/Flash team-up, MoS2, Batman and who knows what else.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby RedWingFan » Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:52 am

verslibre wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:
YoungJRNYfan wrote:WB's DC movie slate has been released as well. Unofficial titles, but they are set:

Less than 2 years away and no title, no casting, no nothing? I'm going to go out on a limb and say this is getting pushed back. lol


Is your name Al Zheimer? We discussed titled many pages ago in this thread. The exact title-date connections are not finalized, though the Justice League date is obvious enough. We're going to get movies that feature Shazam, Wonder Woman, a Green Lantern/Flash team-up, MoS2, Batman and who knows what else.

I just wouldn't be surprised if that title line-up was scrapped already and they're coming up with another plan. It's not like we're talking about Marvel.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:53 am

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verslibre wrote:Is your name Al Zheimer? We discussed titled many pages ago in this thread. The exact title-date connections are not finalized, though the Justice League date is obvious enough. We're going to get movies that feature Shazam, Wonder Woman, a Green Lantern/Flash team-up, MoS2, Batman and who knows what else.

I just wouldn't be surprised if that title line-up was scrapped already and they're coming up with another plan. It's not like we're talking about Marvel.


Do you even buy/read comics or are you just jumping into TNC's jalopy because you think he has better beer? :lol:
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:57 am

YoungJRNYfan wrote:WB's DC movie slate has been released as well. Unofficial titles, but they are set:


Shit, I didn't even realize they've moved BvS UP, to March 25! That's great.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/08/06/batman-v-superman-dawn-of-justice-moves-to-march-2016-release
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby RedWingFan » Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:06 am

verslibre wrote:
YoungJRNYfan wrote:WB's DC movie slate has been released as well. Unofficial titles, but they are set:


Shit, I didn't even realize they've moved BvS UP, to March 25! That's great.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/08/06/batman-v-superman-dawn-of-justice-moves-to-march-2016-release

You didn't expect Marvel to blink with Cap did you?
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby RedWingFan » Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:11 am

Did you see this comment? :lol: . Honestly it wasn't me but it was a theory of mine earlier in this thread. :lol:

xDeniz •4 minutes ago

My guess is:

Batman Vs Superman 2
Untitled DC Film - November 17, 2017

Superman Vs Batman
Untitled DC Film - March 23, 2018

Dawn of Superman Vs Batman
Untitled DC Film - July 27, 2018

Superman vs Batman Rising
Untitled WB Event Film - November 16, 2018

Batman Vs Superman Reboot
Untitled DC Film - April 5, 2019

Batman&Robin Vs Superman
Untitled DC Film - June 14, 2019

Batman Vs Superman Forever
Untitled DC Film - April 3, 2020
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:14 am

verslibre wrote:
YoungJRNYfan wrote:WB's DC movie slate has been released as well. Unofficial titles, but they are set:


Shit, I didn't even realize they've moved BvS UP, to March 25! That's great.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/08/06/batman-v-superman-dawn-of-justice-moves-to-march-2016-release


Hell yeah man! It's my birthday present haha. It's a solid release date. If they would have pushed it back, I would have been irate. Technically, BvS is taking the original March CA spot. Snyder loves his March release dates as well. He has a long history but the move was inevitable. Both BvS AND Cap is going to make huge money. It was always crazy to face off. They both would have lost out on millions in a business that drives off of added millions.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:48 am

RedWingFan wrote:You didn't expect Marvel to blink with Cap did you?


I'm going to be gentle. Ready?

Your lack of foresight precludes you from acknowledging that neither studio wants to compete in the same weekend. All that will do is eat into the other's sales. If BvS won (more likely), it wouldn't be by as wide a margin as previously strategized. Cap3 could stand to make a lot more on the heels of Avengers:AoU if and only if it opens a weekend as a heavyweight.

Do you honestly think any studio wants to open a film the same weekend as the first major film that features DC's most iconic characters?

Trust me. I loved CA:TWS but the Marvel suits no doubt feel like a weight has been lifted off their shoulders. The only reason Iron Man 3 banked a billion-plus is because it was the first post-Avengers movie. Captain America is gaining popularity but I don't think any of the other Avengers are going to equal RDJ's Stark for the time being.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:52 am

YoungJRNYfan wrote:Technically, BvS is taking the original March CA spot. Snyder loves his March release dates as well. He has a long history but the move was inevitable. Both BvS AND Cap is going to make huge money. It was always crazy to face off. They both would have lost out on millions in a business that drives off of added millions.


Plus, the May date wasn't originally any particular Marvel movie's date, Cap3 was moved in there because TWS did better than they'd anticipated.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby Monker » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:27 am

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Quark is. :lol:

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby Monker » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:34 am

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Monker wrote:DC's vision is tiny and 'safe'


They're going to make a Shazam movie so I guess it's not all "tiny" nor "safe."


Yeah, yeah, I read that, too....with The Rock, supposedly.

But, all of these movies tying together in the end for a huge throwdown with Thanos in Avengers 3. If any of them 'failed', Marvel would have huge issues keeping the audience in tune. Marvel had something like a 15yr vision. That's just crazy. DC has issues even thinking a few movies and not balking and the smallest sign of failure.

Funny you mention Shazam...found that while looking up Captain Marvel. Marvel should bring him/her into the mix as well.

And, I now want an origin story for Star Lord. There is definitely another story there.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby Monker » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:39 am

YoungJRNYfan wrote:Good move by WB. Inevitable.

Batman V Superman moves to March 25th, 2016. 2 days before my birthday! Happy birthday TO ME. :lol:


That's actually a BAD sign. Movies more to a Spring release because they are mediocre and/or the studio has low confidence they can compete against the big summer movies, or holiday movies.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:45 am

Monker wrote:But, all of these movies tying together in the end for a huge throwdown with Thanos in Avengers 3.


The overarching story arc is based on The Infinity Gauntlet. And since you asked a few posts back about which characters came before which, Thanos is a direct riff on DC's Darkseid. Jim Starlin (admittedly one of my favorite comics writers/artists) said so. He created him when he moved over to Marvel from DC.

And that's another thing. I hope we get to see Darkseid done properly. Since Marvel hit first, general audiences will think Darkseid is a riff on Thanos. No way around that until people get wind of things.

Monker wrote:[Funny you mention Shazam...found that while looking up Captain Marvel. Marvel should bring him/her into the mix as well.


It will happen, and it will probably be the female Captain Marvel. DC will make a Wonder Woman film, so CM will be brought in as the MCU's cinematic equivalent. However, Sony appears to want to beat both to the punch because this week they announced they intend to produce a film with a female lead set in their Spider-Man universe. It will likely be Black Cat (you know, kind of like Catwoman).
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby Monker » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:49 am

verslibre wrote:
YoungJRNYfan wrote:Technically, BvS is taking the original March CA spot. Snyder loves his March release dates as well. He has a long history but the move was inevitable. Both BvS AND Cap is going to make huge money. It was always crazy to face off. They both would have lost out on millions in a business that drives off of added millions.


Plus, the May date wasn't originally any particular Marvel movie's date, Cap3 was moved in there because TWS did better than they'd anticipated.
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Then tell me why BvS was not moved to a late summer or even a fall release, but the icky Spring death zone? I say the studio has no confidence in this film at this time.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:00 am

Monker wrote:
YoungJRNYfan wrote:Good move by WB. Inevitable.

Batman V Superman moves to March 25th, 2016. 2 days before my birthday! Happy birthday TO ME. :lol:


That's actually a BAD sign. Movies more to a Spring release because they are mediocre and/or the studio has low confidence they can compete against the big summer movies, or holiday movies.


Not true.

The Hunger Games opened to $152M and earned a cumulative gross of $691 worldwide.

Captain America: The Winter Soldier opened this last Spring to $95M and it racked up hundreds of millions worldwide in its first few weeks (it's now over $700M).

Fast and Furious opened to $71M in the same weekend in 2009.

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verslibre wrote:
YoungJRNYfan wrote:Technically, BvS is taking the original March CA spot. Snyder loves his March release dates as well. He has a long history but the move was inevitable. Both BvS AND Cap is going to make huge money. It was always crazy to face off. They both would have lost out on millions in a business that drives off of added millions.


Plus, the May date wasn't originally any particular Marvel movie's date, Cap3 was moved in there because TWS did better than they'd anticipated.


Then tell me why BvS was not moved to a late summer or even a fall release, but the icky Spring death zone? I say the studio has no confidence in this film at this time.


If the movie is going to be completed sooner than later, why make us wait? This s is Batman and Superman. This movie can dominate the box office for weeks. This movie is going to set a record.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby Monker » Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:10 am

verslibre wrote:This movie can dominate the box office for weeks. This movie is going to set a record.


It's going to set a record by being the most anticipated release to a mediocre audience ever...beating out "Snakes on a Plane".

You are setting the bar so high that NOTHING can reach it.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby Monker » Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:20 am

verslibre wrote:[
The Hunger Games opened to $152M and earned a cumulative gross of $691 worldwide.

Captain America: The Winter Soldier opened this last Spring to $95M and it racked up hundreds of millions worldwide in its first few weeks (it's now over $700M).

Fast and Furious opened to $71M in the same weekend in 2009.


And, none of that is even close to the BILLION $'s this thread has said BvS will make.

This thread even said CA:TWS performed BETTER THAN EXPECTED and that is why they moved the date up.
Tell me how well John Carter did...which is the last movie I made this point about.
Tell me how well the last Thor movie did.

I honestly have no idea...but I doubt they made anywhere close to a billion $'s.

If the movie is going to be completed sooner than later, why make us wait?


Because the SUMMER and HOLIDAY SEASON is when people most often see movies. THAT is when movies sell the most tickets. Spring time is generally for crap like "Hanzel and Grettle" and "Jack the Giant Killer". Movies that may be an OK fun time, but not HUGE blockbusters that will make a billion dollars.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby Monker » Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:30 am

Just a quick search, and here you go. In general, the earlier in the year you go, the worse the movies are...with feb. being the worst. The highest rating are in the mid-Summer and holidays.

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/brow ... of_it.html
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:03 am

Monker wrote:
YoungJRNYfan wrote:Good move by WB. Inevitable.

Batman V Superman moves to March 25th, 2016. 2 days before my birthday! Happy birthday TO ME. :lol:


That's actually a BAD sign. Movies more to a Spring release because they are mediocre and/or the studio has low confidence they can compete against the big summer movies, or holiday movies.


Moving the film UP is actually a good sign. The Hunger Games opened to 152.5mil in March. Alice in Wonderland did big as well. Easter is a big box office weekend worldwide so that helps immensely. Like many of the Marvel films, BvS has the entire month of March to dominate with pretty much zero competition. The more money this makes, the better it is for future DC projects.

Forget the pissing match. This is the best case scenario.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:07 am

Monker wrote:
verslibre wrote:This movie can dominate the box office for weeks. This movie is going to set a record.


It's going to set a record by being the most anticipated release to a mediocre audience ever...beating out "Snakes on a Plane".

You are setting the bar so high that NOTHING can reach it.


There's nothing far-fetched in suggesting this movie can possibly set a March opening record and hold on to #1 for weeks after it opens.

If it doesn't do the former, it will likely do the latter.

The SoaP comparison makes about as much sense as comparing it to Sharknado. Those are B-movies.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:13 am

Monker wrote:Just a quick search, and here you go. In general, the earlier in the year you go, the worse the movies are...with feb. being the worst. The highest rating are in the mid-Summer and holidays.

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/brow ... of_it.html


It opens the LAST weekend of March. That leads into April/May.

I already provided statistical proof of some April openers that made plenty of money. I also forgot about Alice in Wonderland, which opened the first weekend of March to a mere $116M.

So unless your surname is de Nostredame and you have prophesied it, you can't say this movie will automatically bomb or underperform. (And you could still be wrong!)
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:20 am

Monker wrote:
verslibre wrote:[
The Hunger Games opened to $152M and earned a cumulative gross of $691 worldwide.

Captain America: The Winter Soldier opened this last Spring to $95M and it racked up hundreds of millions worldwide in its first few weeks (it's now over $700M).

Fast and Furious opened to $71M in the same weekend in 2009.


And, none of that is even close to the BILLION $'s this thread has said BvS will make.


Yep. Because this Superman and Batman we're talking about, baby. :)

Monker wrote:[This thread even said CA:TWS performed BETTER THAN EXPECTED and that is why they moved the date up.


No, they didn't have it set to a date at all. They put it in the May date opposite BvS because they're feeling a wee bit confident now.

Monker wrote:[Tell me how well John Carter did...which is the last movie I made this point about.


That film was promoted "with Neolithic incompetence" (LOL!) and generically titled. People went "Who the fuck is John Carter and why is he on Mars?" and they didn't go see it. They thought it was a B-movie. You think the masses of asses know who Edgar Rice Burroughs is? They should have marketed it as aggressively as GotG was and it should have been called Barsoom because it's catchy.

Monker wrote:[Tell me how well the last Thor movie did.

I honestly have no idea...but I doubt they made anywhere close to a billion $'s.


The third act went to hell. Regardless, Thor is not Superman or Batman.

Because the SUMMER and HOLIDAY SEASON is when people most often see movies. THAT is when movies sell the most tickets. Spring time is generally for crap like "Hanzel and Grettle" and "Jack the Giant Killer". Movies that may be an OK fun time, but not HUGE blockbusters that will make a billion dollars.


That's some creative spelling there, Mister. :lol:
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:22 am

P.S. Jack the Giant Killer...the Bryan Singer movie? One more example of how overrated he is. That movie sucked balls.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:37 am


‘Batman v. Superman’ Date Shift Shows Summer Movies Aren’t Just for Summer


“If you have a great film, people will come no matter when it’s dated,” said Veronika Kwan Vandenberg, president of Warner Bros. international distribution. “It’s a bold move, but we’re taking it because we think it’s such a great film.”

Warner Bros.’ confidence was bolstered because of its recent success launching films such as “Gravity” and “The Lego Movie” in October and February respectively, and watching as they performed as well, if not better than pictures on their summer slate.

The steep drop-offs that many tentpole films have suffered this summer, with pictures such as “The Amazing Spider-Man 2″ and “Godzilla” falling more than 60% in their sophomore weekends, shows the wisdom of avoiding crowded box office periods.

“You’re not in this veritable box office traffic jam,” said Paul Dergarabedian, senior media analyst at Rentrak. “The studios are really putting their money on the 52-week-a-year model that they’re always talking about.”

Going forward, films such as “Fast & Furious 7″ and “Fifty Shades of Grey,” that in other years would have jockeyed for summer or winter holiday release dates, will now debut in April and February.

With studios now scaling back their production slates to focus on fewer, bigger films, many of them carrying pricetags between $100 million to $200 million, finding the perfect date is going to require more creativity and gutsy moves.



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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:42 am

YoungJRNYfan wrote:The steep drop-offs that many tentpole films have suffered this summer, with pictures such as “The Amazing Spider-Man 2″ and “Godzilla” falling more than 60% in their sophomore weekends, shows the wisdom of avoiding crowded box office periods.


Exhibit A: Man of Steel.

Also, the success of Captain America 3 will be affected by the arrival of X-Men: Age of Apocalypse several weeks later.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby RedWingFan » Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:50 am

:lol:
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Marvel should move cap to that date just to fuck with DC.
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