Van Hager = Rest in Peace

by **jrnyman28** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:45 am

Ok, I listened. "Death By Hollywood"...HORRID!
Improving on stage, cool but it needs to fit within the established song. Otherwise Alex wouldn't have had to say anything.
Sounded to me like it was ALL spin! He still sounds messed up. He wanted more than 3 songs, he was out voted, it was more like 50-50, there were songs he didn't even like and he was out-voted???What? You were trying to do songs you didn't even like? I don't get it.

I am sorry, but there will never be a Van Halen if Eddie remains in this shape.

by **Fernando Ramirez** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:06 am

Red13JoePa wrote:What about Edward's proclomation that he and Gary were "musical sould brothers" when doing interviews to promte III? That seemed liked a ringing endorsement when he could've just low keyed it if he had Gary forced upon him. It also doesn't make sense that Edward would allow ANYONE to force him to do something he didn;t want to do with his namesake bacn when he completely autonomously runs everything else.

I read that same thing from Eddie. He would NEVER allow someone into the band that he didnt believe would be good for the band. Ed is the control man here. He's responsible for it ALL. That's why blaming MIKE POST that III was crap because of him is complete and utter BULLSHIT.

Hey, I absolutely love COLOR ME BLIND by Extreme. It's a great song. III SIDES is definitely better than PORNOGRAFFITTI. It's a phenomenal album. I've always wondered WTF happened with the their next album? I guess it was grunge.

by **Red13JoePa** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:34 pm

Yea, Punchline was a strange, strange album.

by **Dan** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:21 am

Hey! i am an old vh fan from way back but i like a lot of the sammy stuff too. is it for sure that they are broken up??? i don't do the web much because my puter is pretty old but i come here to the coffee shop to surf sometimes and have been trying to find vh info so here i am. i love vh/journey/styx/metallica/acdc/loads of other 80's bands and am trying to find out current info. so is vh together or not? what happened to dlr anyway? is he just a vegas joke now or what. and what is sammy and eddie up to.

i might not come back for a day or two since i am in a hurry but i hope you all can anwer my questions!! thanks!

by **Abitaman** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 9:22 am

Dan wrote:Hey! i am an old vh fan from way back but i like a lot of the sammy stuff too. is it for sure that they are broken up??? i don't do the web much because my puter is pretty old but i come here to the coffee shop to surf sometimes and have been trying to find vh info so here i am. i love vh/journey/styx/metallica/acdc/loads of other 80's bands and am trying to find out current info. so is vh together or not? what happened to dlr anyway? is he just a vegas joke now or what. and what is sammy and eddie up to.

i might not come back for a day or two since i am in a hurry but i hope you all can anwer my questions!! thanks!

Sad to say, if the haven't broken up, they sure need to. Eddie needs to get it together, aand see the blame lies with him.-ERIC

by **Fernando Ramirez** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:09 am

I think Sammy said in a recent interview that VH is done. The next incarnation, if there is one, will not include him.

by **Dan** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 2:40 am

so why does eddie need to get his act together? is he drinking again!! damn dude needs to go to AA and get cured once and for all. and he broke up with valerie right? too bad. hot chick and really stabilzed him. so sammy wont go with van halen anymore? whos the next singer then? eddie could just go solo or something.

by **Fernando Ramirez** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 3:02 am

Dan wrote:so why does eddie need to get his act together? is he drinking again!! damn dude needs to go to AA and get cured once and for all. and he broke up with valerie right? too bad. hot chick and really stabilzed him. so sammy wont go with van halen anymore? whos the next singer then? eddie could just go solo or something.

Although he did have some great shows, a handful of them were by reports erratic. Spurred by "sloppy" playing. There was the bizarre "bar" event (I forgot what city, location) where he was kicked out because he was publicly intoxicated and annoying other customers. There was also his bizarre behaviour at the Dimebag Darrell tribute. Apparently, he said some strange stuff, and he was noticeably drunk. Zakk Wilde came out and criticized him, I believe.

Also, while the man "beat" cancer, he apparently thinks it won't rear its ugly head because there have been reports that he's smoking again. I'm sure his former wife just gave up on him because he didn't want to take care of himself. She probably doesnt want to be around to see him destroy himself. He seems to be on a self-destructive path, and most likely will have debilitating health problems coming his way.

Eddie's place in the music world is cemented... his place in the guitar hall of fame is sealed. I want to hear more music from him, and I hope he's able to find peace and to successfully defeat his demons.

by **NealIsGod** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 5:13 am

Fernando Ramirez wrote:
Dan wrote:so why does eddie need to get his act together? is he drinking again!! damn dude needs to go to AA and get cured once and for all. and he broke up with valerie right? too bad. hot chick and really stabilzed him. so sammy wont go with van halen anymore? whos the next singer then? eddie could just go solo or something.

Although he did have some great shows, a handful of them were by reports erratic. Spurred by "sloppy" playing. There was the bizarre "bar" event (I forgot what city, location) where he was kicked out because he was publicly intoxicated and annoying other customers. There was also his bizarre behaviour at the Dimebag Darrell tribute. Apparently, he said some strange stuff, and he was noticeably drunk. Zakk Wilde came out and criticized him, I believe.

Also, while the man "beat" cancer, he apparently thinks it won't rear its ugly head because there have been reports that he's smoking again. I'm sure his former wife just gave up on him because he didn't want to take care of himself. She probably doesnt want to be around to see him destroy himself. He seems to be on a self-destructive path, and most likely will have debilitating health problems coming his way.

Eddie's place in the music world is cemented... his place in the guitar hall of fame is sealed. I want to hear more music from him, and I hope he's able to find peace and to successfully defeat his demons.

So the guy is basically rotting, killing himself with cigarettes and alcohol. What a sad waste...

by **Rockindeano** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:39 pm

It's so hard to get behind this band anymore.. I love them dearly(both singers), but how they expect fans to back them, to support them, when they (the VH brothers) won't get their shit together. By the way, that last "cash in" tour they did, IMO, was terrible.. I would think somebody with their talent would commit better and play better. Now I definately know why Soul Sirkus wasn't able to play with VH in LA..they would cook VH, that's why...

by **JourneyTroll** » Tue Aug 02, 2005 6:15 am

Wish they never broke up.

Journeytroll

by **VH101** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 12:17 pm

Well, I'd just like to state for the record -- being my first post here and all -- that I never gave up on Van Halen. Whether a change in styles, singers, health, you name it. I have been and foresee that I will forever be a Van Halen fanatic!

by **jrnyman28** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 12:55 pm

VH101 wrote:Well, I'd just like to state for the record -- being my first post here and all -- that I never gave up on Van Halen. Whether a change in styles, singers, health, you name it. I have been and foresee that I will forever be a Van Halen fanatic!

Good for you. And I hope there will be a VH for you to be a fan of.

by **Kenny** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 11:38 pm

VH101 wrote:Well, I'd just like to state for the record -- being my first post here and all -- that I never gave up on Van Halen. Whether a change in styles, singers, health, you name it. I have been and foresee that I will forever be a Van Halen fanatic!

And very well said mate......welcome!!
Too many people here seem to be here merely to bag the band, Eddie, the Hagar years, whatever.

I'm with you. Even if the band never records another note, or plays another note live, they have still achieved more than most bands will ever dream of, and their place in rock royalty is assured. Edward inspired literally millions of players, and millions of imitators, but there will only ever be one Eddie!!!

by **Red13JoePa** » Sat Aug 06, 2005 12:18 am

Andrew just reported up front the Best Of Both Worlds is platinum, shifting over 500 k US. That's sales, not even shipments. These guys still have the goods I hope the band doesn't go on too prolonged a hiatus again....

by **VH101** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:36 pm

And very well said mate......welcome!!

Glad to be here. Hope there will be yet another incarnation of the mighty VH!

by **AOR rules** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:36 pm

Im absolutely sure there will be reunion with Dave at some point. And its good because I never really used to Sammy´s vocals in VH. I like some of Sammy´s solo stuff but somehow he didnt fit in VH.

by **Red13JoePa** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:59 pm

Agree. It's just inevitable. The aborted '96 reunion is far enough in the rear now, and I think both Dave AND the band learned from that. Big as the Sam reunion was last year, Dave would topple it.

by **JourneyTroll** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:27 am

Red13JoePa wrote:Agree. It's just inevitable. The aborted '96 reunion is far enough in the rear now, and I think both Dave AND the band learned from that. Big as the Sam reunion was last year, Dave would topple it.

I would pay for great seats to see Van Halen with David Lee Roth as lead singer. If The Police ever got back together, I'd see them.

Journeytroll

by **Rockindeano** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 4:34 am

Red13JoePa wrote:Agree. It's just inevitable. The aborted '96 reunion is far enough in the rear now, and I think both Dave AND the band learned from that. Big as the Sam reunion was last year, Dave would topple it.

No fucking way.

Never happen. You got 2 of the biggest assholes in music, in Eddie and Dave. They won't even talk to each other. Wishful dreaming. Eddie will keep drinking and Dave will be behind a radio mic.

This band was so good, and now they are a complete joke. They could have been a top 5 band of all time.... :cry:

by **Red13JoePa** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 4:41 am

You don't think they are ANYWAY yet?

by **JourneyTroll** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 5:49 am

Red13JoePa wrote:You don't think they are ANYWAY yet?

Van Halen is easily a top 20 greatest all time band. When David Lee Roth was in the band, I'd say they were a top 14 band.

Journeytroll

by **VH101** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 6:21 am

Rock'ndeano wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:Agree. It's just inevitable. The aborted '96 reunion is far enough in the rear now, and I think both Dave AND the band learned from that. Big as the Sam reunion was last year, Dave would topple it.

No fucking way.

Never happen. You got 2 of the biggest assholes in music, in Eddie and Dave. They won't even talk to each other. Wishful dreaming. Eddie will keep drinking and Dave will be behind a radio mic....

Unfortunately, I have to agree with the latter - only replace "assholes" with "egos." :cry:

by **VH101** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 6:24 am

JourneyTroll wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:You don't think they are ANYWAY yet?

Van Halen is easily a top 20 greatest all time band. When David Lee Roth was in the band, I'd say they were a top 14 band.

Journeytroll

More like a top 8 band. Huh?

by **Red13JoePa** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 7:19 am

That's the way he posts.
The resident escapee. That's a true shot of him in the avatar BTW.

by **VH101** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 7:41 am

Red13JoePa wrote:...That's a true shot of him in the avatar BTW.

Actually, I rather liked 'Buffy The Vampire Slayer,' but that's another topic for another forum. :twisted:

by **JourneyTroll** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 1:07 am

VH101 wrote:
JourneyTroll wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:You don't think they are ANYWAY yet?

Van Halen is easily a top 20 greatest all time band. When David Lee Roth was in the band, I'd say they were a top 14 band.

Journeytroll

More like a top 8 band. Huh?

Van Halen could be considered a top 8 all time band. However, there's a lot of people that think that other groups have a fair claim at being in the top eight.

Journeytroll

by **Rockindeano** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 12:47 pm

What the Hell, dude?

Top 14? Top 8? You are beyond gone. You know I was hoping VH would actually get to the top 6, but looks as if they'll have to settle for top 7. See, ACDC took the 4th spot, and Zeppelin had the top 3, so Journey wanted top 6 also, but couldn't get past the top 9. So that pissed off Neal, who always thought they had a top 11 band, only to be told he was only top 18. Damn! Then Perry called me and said they weren't top 12, so I figured they might snag top 17. But the top 15 had been reserved, so we landed Journey in the top 22..VH got the top 22 also, but wanted top 13.

JESUS CHRIST! You seriously posted "top 8 and top 14?"

by **JourneyTroll** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 12:05 am

Rock'ndeano wrote:What the Hell, dude?

Top 14? Top 8? You are beyond gone. You know I was hoping VH would actually get to the top 6, but looks as if they'll have to settle for top 7. See, ACDC took the 4th spot, and Zeppelin had the top 3, so Journey wanted top 6 also, but couldn't get past the top 9. So that pissed off Neal, who always thought they had a top 11 band, only to be told he was only top 18. Damn! Then Perry called me and said they weren't top 12, so I figured they might snag top 17. But the top 15 had been reserved, so we landed Journey in the top 22..VH got the top 22 also, but wanted top 13.

JESUS CHRIST! You seriously posted "top 8 and top 14?"

I understand you need message boards for companionship. However, I am stating that Van Halen with David Lee Roth is easily in the top 14 greatest bands of all time. Some people believe Van Halen could be a top 8 band of all time.

I am stating that could be true with a lot of other people. However, other fans favorite bands such as Pink Floyd, The Who, U2, Tom Petty, and others might push Van Halen to the top 14.

Journeytroll

by **VH101** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 8:37 am

It all makes sense now!

MR

Van Hager = Rest in Peace

I agree

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