Mackenzie Phillips: I Slept with My Own Father

[PDiddy75]

Cold beer has never tasted better than it is right now.

Funny, I say that every night.

Why am I crackin up right now??

ANYWAYS...this thread is just wrong on so many levels...dont know where to start! Think this <b>is</b> a thread you have to be half crocked to even post on!! What do you say to this <b>nutjob</b>*no pun intended* writing a book about her own Dad "givin it to her", YEARS later to top it off!?! I feel like tellin her, "nooone cares about your life"!! How are you gonna bring up old shit like <b>this</b> when if it REALLY bothered you...you would have done something years ago! Ugh....I need a Tea!

Extra strong cup for me..................

LOL...not that kind of Tea....a Twisted Tea, that I can only get in Chicago. Luckily enough...Im flyin in tomorrow till Sunday so I will make sure to have one just for this thread!!

[artist4perry]

I don't know, but first, last...........yick! It is your DAD!

I had a hard enough time with my little sister's ex telling me about the time they had to stop having sex so he could close the window because they could hear my Dad and step-mother at it and it was putting them off. Had to run out of the room with my fingers in my ears yelling la-la-la-la. I know my parents had sex, I know my sister and her husband have sex, but I DON'T WANT ANY DETAILS!! I do not belong in their sex lives, even in a conversation after the act, and they certainly don't belong in mine!

I take it that you join us in the no Daddy Diddling pledge..........

Technically impossible, given that he died several years ago, but in principle, push that bit o' paper over for me to sign.

Can do.........sorry about your father. But the thought..... My dad is my protector, my friend, my mentor.........how can a dad even on drugs violate such a trust?

My Dad was my rock............to bad she did not have a good father to rely on. Maybe she would have not been so messed up. I remember her, she had a ton of problems.........a total train wreck of a life. Now it makes a great deal of sense.

[JasonD]

Well, I for one, am glad that MY parents never had sex b/c that would be just plain disgusting (*hey, leave me in denial where life is more comfortable*)

Seriously, though, I just don't understand why every time someone starts talking about incest or pedophilia, someone else eventually intertwines that with "The Gays" like we invented it or something. I'm on board with Ginger's "No Daddy's" rule & I'm extending it to "No Mommies" b/c I would never want to be known as a motherfucker in the literal sense.

BRAIN BLEACH, PLEASE. I JUST HAD AN ICKY IMAGE POP IN MY HEAD.

[artist4perry]

Well, I for one, am glad that MY parents never had sex b/c that would be just plain disgusting (*hey, leave me in denial where life is more comfortable*)

Seriously, though, I just don't understand why every time someone starts talking about incest or pedophilia, someone else eventually intertwines that with "The Gays" like we invented it or something. I'm on board with Ginger's "No Daddy's" rule & I'm extending it to "No Mommies" b/c I would never want to be known as a motherfucker in the literal sense.

BRAIN BLEACH, PLEASE. I JUST HAD AN ICKY IMAGE POP IN MY HEAD.

Just say No to Fiddling with the Folks..........

[indigo]

That was a waste of a liver transplant on John Phillips in 1992. Should have went to somebody else.

[walkslikealady]

Sad...really sad.

Now I know why my cat threw up on my keyboard!

[stevew2]

Well, I for one, am glad that MY parents never had sex b/c that would be just plain disgusting (*hey, leave me in denial where life is more comfortable*)

Seriously, though, I just don't understand why every time someone starts talking about incest or pedophilia, someone else eventually intertwines that with "The Gays" like we invented it or something. I'm on board with Ginger's "No Daddy's" rule & I'm extending it to "No Mommies" b/c I would never want to be known as a motherfucker in the literal sense.

BRAIN BLEACH, PLEASE. I JUST HAD AN ICKY IMAGE POP IN MY HEAD.

Thats what your problem is, you thought your parents never had sex,so having sex with a women is discusting to you. call me Dr. Phil2w

[StoneCold]

I wouldnt tag my aunt, she looks like Alice Cooper, my cousin was hot though

So I guess your aunt wasn't a stonecold foxiena?

[StoneCold]

Don't ask me why, but today I learned something. I always thought that Mackenzie was John and Michelles daughter. Turns out that Mac was born to a first wife named Susan Adams. Never knew that, and it explains a few things, at least to me.

i never knew this either..

i do know that she was a part of the greatest movie ever made.. 1973..

One of the greatest movies for sure. "The" can't say but definitely a great flick.

[stevew2]

I wouldnt tag my aunt, she looks like Alice Cooper, my cousin was hot though

So I guess your aunt wasn't a stonecold foxiena?

Naw she looked like Alice Cooper awhile back, how she looks like Bob Dylan, I love her though, if would you aunt might be more perverted than me

[MBPL]

First, Stevew2 and St John are a coupla fucking goofs! I hate that I laughed at some of their comments!

Second, I have personal knowledge of a sexual relationship for many years between a family member and (�god father�). I was told by the victim of both molestation and rape, they are acts of complete control. A child is weaned if I can use that word, into believing what is happening is �right.� Or that child is threatened into believing it, or drugged. In Mac's case, this is her dad. I mean, can you imagine your own parent making you believe sex with them is right? How would you not know? So, aside from making money, maybe it�s true. Maybe Mac waited until John passed on and she fought with herself to put this story out to hopefully help others.

A parent/child relationship is a hard thing to explain, children no matter what age continue to fear their parents and trust them at the same time. In this case, well, John cannot speak for himself so I won�t buy the book, but if Mac is in fact telling the truth and trying to help other victims speak out and embarrass the sick people men and women who perpetrate such an atrocious acts, more power to her. Just my big-brown-boobied, nappy-hair opinion.

MBPL (Maple Brown Perry Loon), my "problem" with gays strays no further than the argumentative/debate stage. Jason can suck all the cocks he wants, and any rug munchers on this board can engage in tongue love till they get lock jaw. I'm presenting a contrarian argument and certainly didn't intend for you to get your boobies in a bunch. See you in Redwood City soon, ma'am. Be prepared to do a lot of Lemon Drops.

PS Incest with a child should be punishable by death. I think, yea.

Oh okay, so but what about my gay male friend Boris, you know the one in the Ad for crotchless chaps that you asked me about? Do you still want me to bring him along? The one who's into tall, dark-haired men with big, bulging, "I want you to back door me, you sexy mofo eyes? " Oh geesh, sorry for busting you out dear. Oh, wait you said you're a...a top, right? Yes, I forgot you mentioned that, I will tell Boris, he goes both ways I think he said. Oh, and I loved your headshot BTW...oops, "head" *snicker*...you know the one in the Bay Area's stage production of Hemorrhoid Harry and the Dancing Dildos." bwahahaha! snort! cough! Ooooh lawd, my kidneys hurt! Yea, I don't know you well enough to...I couldn't help it. It's late. Going to bed now. Hahaha! whoo!

[The Sushi Hunter]

Yeah, I don't know what to make of this story. Probably drumming up attention for a money making Hollywood deal. A family malfunction sort of like that costume malfunction. Is her old man even still alive? If not, no harm done in her attention getting deal.

[Tito]

I think Tito's point is being misinterpreted, partially because he's too dumb to articulate it well enough! Anyway, I would like to ask the pro-homosexual contingent what they would think about this exact same case minus the rape part. The homosexuals always argue that the non-homos "shouldn't tell 2 unrelated consenting adults what they can or can't do." So, if a girl that's 25 years old decides she wants her old man to bust a few nuts in her, who are you guys to tell her she can't? Personally, I find both acts (homosexuality and incest) disgusting and I think nature has a way of filtering out sexually deviant behavior...gays can't reproduce and incestuous relationships yield kids that look and act like they're from Kentucky.

There. I fixed it for you.

As the resident gay guy I take it you want my queer expertise, so here goes: BLECH! GIMME SOME BRAIN BLEACH---NOW!!! I NEED AT LEAST A GALLON OR TWO!!! Incest is disgusting regardless of whether both parties are adults & whether the action was consensual.

That's discrimination against related couples.

[Tito]

Just my big-brown-boobied, ....

Lets see!

[Michigan Girl]

Her sexual relationship with him had become consensual.

Then again, according to homosexual advocates, they should be allowed to get married I guess. Sickos.

I used my thought in the other thread, but after reading SJ's post I think I understand what you're TRYING to say...
You shouldn't post when you are short on time and/or brain cells!!! I just love you, I don't know why!!

Actually MG, Tito's not far off....NAMBLA....It's a real group that wants its crime legalized!!! Google it if you want.

I feel a little ill!!!
"Many of their members have been jailed for conspiracies and child molestation."

[bluejeangirl76]

This is all such horseshit. How did the gay issue even get into this? Or wait, right - same way it always does.

The topic here was Mackenzie Phillips and her pervert fuck-up of a father. And right away, we equate him to the gay issue because he did something wrong... jesus h.

This is ridiculous. Things like incest and these NAMBLA maniacs are extreme cases... nothing to do with homosexuality. There are just as many pedophile freaks that prey on girls as on boys, so don't make a direct correlation between homosexuality and NAMBLA.

That is always the first sign, to me, of a person who doesn't know how to think, when they go right to equating gay people or gay rights/marriage rights to extreme situations ("Fine, let them get married, ok, so why don't we make it legal to marry cows and fuck goats too"... oh good god, are ya kiddin' me!?). Just because there are a group of freaks who choose to engage in certain behavior, as in the much-mentioned NAMBLA example, does not immediately indicate that all gays do that.

Plenty of straight guys are into raping and beating up women... does it mean they ALL do it? A lot of straight couples participate in spouse-swapping, threesomes, foursomes, bondage, swinging parties... things many people disapprove of.... does this mean ALL married couples do it?

But you never hear - you NEVER hear - generalizations made based on the actions of a few when it comes to straight people.

John Phillips was a straight guy and because he fucked his daughter, it was incest and yeah it was gross, but do we hear things like "straight men always fuck their daughters...." NO, we don't. Becuase ALL straight men don't do that, and neither do "all" gay men. But that isn't the way it's treated when it's a same sex crime.

If Mackenzie was a boy instead of a girl.... this discussion would have STARTED with gay bashing instead of turning into it the minute the usual suspect showed up.

I still can't figure out how we got from John Phillips to NAMBLA. One has nothing to do with the other and I figure it's just another excuse to spout off nonsensical, prejudiced bullshit, but whatever.

[larryfromnextdoor]

Michelle Phillips says that Mackenzie LIED about the entire thing to sell her new book..

[Voyager]

the reports coming out from Michelle Phillips now are that Mackenzie LIED about the entire thing to sell her new book..

No surprise. The people close to sexual abusers usually live in denial and learn to cover-up for their deviant behavior.

[bluejeangirl76]

the reports coming out from Michelle Phillips now are that Mackenzie LIED about the entire thing to sell her new book..

No surprise. The people close to sexual abusers usually live in denial and learn to cover-up for their deviant behavior.

No surprise in EITHER case. Clearly one of the two of them is lying.

Same thing happened with LaToya. She lied her ass off to sell books and was roped into it by that Jack Gordon asshole.
So either Mac is lying for a profit like LaToya did, or the mother is lying to keep dirty laundry covered.

[stevew2]

he must have sang California Creaming while thet were doing it

[RossValoryRocks]

Michelle Phillips says that Mackenzie LIED about the entire thing to sell her new book..

Yet Chynna, his other daughter with Michelle, says she believes her.

[Ehwmatt]

Michelle Phillips says that Mackenzie LIED about the entire thing to sell her new book..

Yet Chynna, his other daughter with Michelle, says she believes her.

Chyna?

[RossValoryRocks]

Michelle Phillips says that Mackenzie LIED about the entire thing to sell her new book..

Yet Chynna, his other daughter with Michelle, says she believes her.

Chyna?

\

No...Chynna Phillips...the hot chic in Caddy Shack II, and the vocalist for Wilson-Phillips ya know.

[bluejeangirl76]

Michelle Phillips says that Mackenzie LIED about the entire thing to sell her new book..

Yet Chynna, his other daughter with Michelle, says she believes her.

Chyna?

LMAO!

No... Chynna... (she's married to a Baldwin... I didn't know that)

[Arianddu]

This is all such horseshit. (major snipage)

BRAVO! +100

[Tito]

so don't make a direct correlation between homosexuality and NAMBLA.

Actually, yeah it is. It stands for man boy love.

That is always the first sign, to me, of a person who doesn't know how to think, when they go right to equating gay people or gay rights/marriage rights to extreme situations ("Fine, let them get married, ok, so why don't we make it legal to marry cows and fuck goats too"... oh good god, are ya kiddin' me!?). Just because there are a group of freaks who choose to engage in certain behavior, as in the much-mentioned NAMBLA example, does not immediately indicate that all gays do that.

Gays are freaks too and it is extreme. Hell, a lot of chicks don't even take it in the ass.

Plenty of straight guys are into raping and beating up women... does it mean they ALL do it? A lot of straight couples participate in spouse-swapping, threesomes, foursomes, bondage, swinging parties... things many people disapprove of.... does this mean ALL married couples do it?

They're weird too. But, if there's gay marriage then they should [all] be allowed to marry too. They are all UNRELATED, CONSENTING ADULTS. Where's the difference.? How do you discriminate?

But you never hear - you NEVER hear - generalizations made based on the actions of a few when it comes to straight people.

The generalization of straight people is they're normal. Gays, rapists, child molesters, and incest relationships are not.

One has nothing to do with the other and I figure it's just another excuse to spout off nonsensical, prejudiced bullshit, but whatever.

Yes it does. They're both disgusting acts. It's is not nonsensical. It's correct logic.

[Lula]

[quote="Tito"]



The generalization of straight people is they're normal. Gays, rapists, child molesters, and incest relationships are not.

[quote]

normal? what exactly do you consider normal? nevermind, don't bother.

the majority of rapists, molesters/pedophiles, and those in incestuous relationships are straight. do you even know anyone who is gay? tito i don't get you, not at all.

[Tito]

The generalization of straight people is they're normal. Gays, rapists, child molesters, and incest relationships are not.

normal? what exactly do you consider normal? nevermind, don't bother.

the majority of rapists, molesters/pedophiles, and those in incestuous relationships are straight. do you even know anyone who is gay? tito i don't get you, not at all.

I said they are all not normal (for various reasons obviously). I'll give you rapists and incestuous are mostly (for lack of a better term) straight. The child molesters, I'm not so sure about. Most cases are men with little boys.

[bluejeangirl76]

so don't make a direct correlation between homosexuality and NAMBLA.

Actually, yeah it is. It stands for man boy love.

I know that. What I meant was, and maybe I wasn't clear enough, that it has nothing to do with the majority of those who are homosexual - it's a group of people doing criminal things.

That is always the first sign, to me, of a person who doesn't know how to think, when they go right to equating gay people or gay rights/marriage rights to extreme situations ("Fine, let them get married, ok, so why don't we make it legal to marry cows and fuck goats too"... oh good god, are ya kiddin' me!?). Just because there are a group of freaks who choose to engage in certain behavior, as in the much-mentioned NAMBLA example, does not immediately indicate that all gays do that.

Gays are freaks too and it is extreme. Hell, a lot of chicks don't even take it in the ass.

So a guy gives it to a guy in the ass, and that guy is, as you say, a freak. A guy gives it to a girl in the ass, and that's totally fine? Hell, guys WANT that from women... It's a dick and an ass and it's the exact same act , regardless of the gender of the recipient. The bible banging argument I always seem hear on this one is that sex is meant for procreation only, and gays cannot procreate, therefore gay sex is wrong.

But these same gay bashers have no problem knocking on their girlfriend's back door, do they? Oral sex doesn't result in procreation either, yet I've never heard of a guy turning that down. I think the next time someone throws that stupid argument out, I'll ask them how often they get or give oral sex and then I'll tell them THEY are sinning in the exact same manner that they're claiming gays are sinning.

Plenty of straight guys are into raping and beating up women... does it mean they ALL do it? A lot of straight couples participate in spouse-swapping, threesomes, foursomes, bondage, swinging parties... things many people disapprove of.... does this mean ALL married couples do it?

They're weird too. But, if there's gay marriage then they should [all] be allowed to marry too. They are all UNRELATED, CONSENTING ADULTS. Where's the difference.? How do you discriminate?

I'm not discriminating. And they ARE allowed to marry, because they're male/female couples. Yet they engage in what some consider questionable or even deplorable sexual practices and no one says boo. The people who don't approve of this type of thing seem to have no problem looking the other way and minding their own business. I've never heard of wife-swapper bashing. Never seen a protest to disallow marriage among people who make a sport out of switching partners. It's none of anyone else's business what these people so int heir homes/bedrooms/designated parter-swapping clubs, right? Same as it's none of anyone's business what same-sex couples are doing in their homes!

What I'm saying is that it's a HUGE double standard. No one steps all over straight peoples' rights to do these things that some may disapprove of. But a chick licks another chick or two guys hold hands in public and people epically freak out.

But you never hear - you NEVER hear - generalizations made based on the actions of a few when it comes to straight people.

The generalization of straight people is they're normal. Gays, rapists, child molesters, and incest relationships are not.

This is my whole point - you're including all gays in the same abnormal category as rapists and child molesters. I'll fix that for you. People, regardless of who they love, are normal. Rapists, child molesters, incest and homophobic hateful bigots are not normal.

Ah. That's better.

Good day now.

[SF-Dano]

Personal opinion - I think Phillips is making it up to make money. The man is dead and can not defend his name - how convenient. Maybe it all occurred during her heroin shooting days and it was one/or a series of different guys asking her to call them "daddy" while they were doing it and in her drug induced hazed she really thought (or wanted it to be) it was her father.

I know this sounds cold, but these people always come out with these shocking revelations after the person they are accusing is dead and gone, and usually in a money making venture(ie. books, payed speaking engagements, etc.). She had a lot of years and alot of other serious problems that she aired long before this.

Just my opinion.