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Postby journeyrock » Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:53 am

brywool wrote:
journeyrock wrote:
Behshad wrote:
Im talkin about average nomal people who claim to like Beatles... youre a BeatlesFreak! :lol: :wink:
does that put him in the same category as Perryloon?


Nah, because I don't go on and on about how cute they are, obsess about their hair, or constantly pine for a reunion and completely ignore the realities of the situation.
;)

BeatlesFreak. Yes, I wear the tag proudly. Maybe I'M the fifth Beatle??? Is that right Deano??
I don't pine for a reunion or completely ignore the realities of the situation. I choose not to participate in the current lineup as far as buying the music or seeing the concerts, but I can still talk intelligently about what they are and aren't doing. That being said, though, I am definitely guilty of the first two. :wink:
"as long as they have to carry DSB as their banner, it looks like Perry will be right there with them as an overseer, ready to wield his veto power on all things Classic Journey." As quoted by Don on 12/7/2010
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Postby stevew2 » Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:54 am

journeyrock wrote:
brywool wrote:
journeyrock wrote:
Behshad wrote:
Im talkin about average nomal people who claim to like Beatles... youre a BeatlesFreak! :lol: :wink:
does that put him in the same category as Perryloon?


Nah, because I don't go on and on about how cute they are, obsess about their hair, or constantly pine for a reunion and completely ignore the realities of the situation.
;)

BeatlesFreak. Yes, I wear the tag proudly. Maybe I'M the fifth Beatle??? Is that right Deano??
I don't pine for a reunion or completely ignore the realities of the situation. I choose not to participate in the current lineup as far as buying the music or seeing the concerts, but I can still talk intelligently about what they are and aren't doing. That being said, though, I am definitely guilty of the first two. :wink:
I cant see a reunion unless people can be brought back from the dead
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Postby journeyrock » Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:56 am

stevew2 wrote:
journeyrock wrote:
brywool wrote:
journeyrock wrote:
Behshad wrote:
Im talkin about average nomal people who claim to like Beatles... youre a BeatlesFreak! :lol: :wink:
does that put him in the same category as Perryloon?


Nah, because I don't go on and on about how cute they are, obsess about their hair, or constantly pine for a reunion and completely ignore the realities of the situation.
;)

BeatlesFreak. Yes, I wear the tag proudly. Maybe I'M the fifth Beatle??? Is that right Deano??
I don't pine for a reunion or completely ignore the realities of the situation. I choose not to participate in the current lineup as far as buying the music or seeing the concerts, but I can still talk intelligently about what they are and aren't doing. That being said, though, I am definitely guilty of the first two. :wink:
I cant see a reunion unless people can be brought back from the dead
I was gonna say that, but I didn't want to sound disrespectful. :lol: :lol:

The same could be applied to Journey with SP...... so to speak.
"as long as they have to carry DSB as their banner, it looks like Perry will be right there with them as an overseer, ready to wield his veto power on all things Classic Journey." As quoted by Don on 12/7/2010
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Postby stevew2 » Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:59 am

journeyrock wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
journeyrock wrote:
brywool wrote:
journeyrock wrote:
Behshad wrote:
Im talkin about average nomal people who claim to like Beatles... youre a BeatlesFreak! :lol: :wink:
does that put him in the same category as Perryloon?


Nah, because I don't go on and on about how cute they are, obsess about their hair, or constantly pine for a reunion and completely ignore the realities of the situation.
;)

BeatlesFreak. Yes, I wear the tag proudly. Maybe I'M the fifth Beatle??? Is that right Deano??
I don't pine for a reunion or completely ignore the realities of the situation. I choose not to participate in the current lineup as far as buying the music or seeing the concerts, but I can still talk intelligently about what they are and aren't doing. That being said, though, I am definitely guilty of the first two. :wink:
I cant see a reunion unless people can be brought back from the dead
I was gonna say that, but I didn't want to sound disrespectful. :lol: :lol:

The same could be applied to Journey with SP, so to speak.
say it like it is, no disrespect intended,The beatles were great,all of them
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Postby brywool » Sat Sep 26, 2009 3:01 am

journeyrock wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
journeyrock wrote:
brywool wrote:
journeyrock wrote:
Behshad wrote:
Im talkin about average nomal people who claim to like Beatles... youre a BeatlesFreak! :lol: :wink:
does that put him in the same category as Perryloon?


Nah, because I don't go on and on about how cute they are, obsess about their hair, or constantly pine for a reunion and completely ignore the realities of the situation.
;)

BeatlesFreak. Yes, I wear the tag proudly. Maybe I'M the fifth Beatle??? Is that right Deano??
I don't pine for a reunion or completely ignore the realities of the situation. I choose not to participate in the current lineup as far as buying the music or seeing the concerts, but I can still talk intelligently about what they are and aren't doing. That being said, though, I am definitely guilty of the first two. :wink:
I cant see a reunion unless people can be brought back from the dead
I was gonna say that, but I didn't want to sound disrespectful. :lol: :lol:

The same could be applied to Journey with SP...... so to speak.


But many "loons" (a term I don't know if I've ever typed here) do ignore the realities of the situation and just think "Oh, he's coming back. He's going to be with Journey again. blah blah blah- dumb". Maybe not you- Besides, Perry's ever so dreamy!
On the Beatles thing- there are those who think that Ringo and Paul together constitute a Beatles reunion and get excited about it, Larry King among them (DUDE- retire for God's sake, you're embarrassing unless you're interviewing Steve and Edie!).
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Postby journeyrock » Sat Sep 26, 2009 3:01 am

stevew2 wrote:
journeyrock wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
journeyrock wrote:
brywool wrote:
journeyrock wrote:
Behshad wrote:
Im talkin about average nomal people who claim to like Beatles... youre a BeatlesFreak! :lol: :wink:
does that put him in the same category as Perryloon?


Nah, because I don't go on and on about how cute they are, obsess about their hair, or constantly pine for a reunion and completely ignore the realities of the situation.
;)

BeatlesFreak. Yes, I wear the tag proudly. Maybe I'M the fifth Beatle??? Is that right Deano??
I don't pine for a reunion or completely ignore the realities of the situation. I choose not to participate in the current lineup as far as buying the music or seeing the concerts, but I can still talk intelligently about what they are and aren't doing. That being said, though, I am definitely guilty of the first two. :wink:
I cant see a reunion unless people can be brought back from the dead
I was gonna say that, but I didn't want to sound disrespectful. :lol: :lol:

The same could be applied to Journey with SP, so to speak.
say it like it is, no disrespect intended,The beatles were great,all of them
That wasn't directed that you were being disrespectful, it's all good. :wink:
"as long as they have to carry DSB as their banner, it looks like Perry will be right there with them as an overseer, ready to wield his veto power on all things Classic Journey." As quoted by Don on 12/7/2010
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Postby stevew2 » Sat Sep 26, 2009 3:06 am

journeyrock wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
journeyrock wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
journeyrock wrote:
brywool wrote:
journeyrock wrote:
Behshad wrote:
Im talkin about average nomal people who claim to like Beatles... youre a BeatlesFreak! :lol: :wink:
does that put him in the same category as Perryloon?


Nah, because I don't go on and on about how cute they are, obsess about their hair, or constantly pine for a reunion and completely ignore the realities of the situation.
;)

BeatlesFreak. Yes, I wear the tag proudly. Maybe I'M the fifth Beatle??? Is that right Deano??
I don't pine for a reunion or completely ignore the realities of the situation. I choose not to participate in the current lineup as far as buying the music or seeing the concerts, but I can still talk intelligently about what they are and aren't doing. That being said, though, I am definitely guilty of the first two. :wink:
I cant see a reunion unless people can be brought back from the dead
I was gonna say that, but I didn't want to sound disrespectful. :lol: :lol:

The same could be applied to Journey with SP, so to speak.
say it like it is, no disrespect intended,The beatles were great,all of them
That wasn't directed that you were being disrespectful, it's all good. :wink:
I know, thats cool
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Postby wastingbeerz » Sat Sep 26, 2009 6:40 am

I've always appreciated what The Beatles brought to music, but honestly not a huge fan myself. I definitely think the biggest thing here is the fact that their catalog was just rereleased and re-mastered. That's why they're selling. There are a lot of people out there who update their Beatles catalog every time new versions are released. Then there's rockband, and to a lesser extent the coming-of-age kids who think if they listen to the Beatles they'll be sooo relevant musically. Yeah, I said it, and I stand by that statement. Very few of the sales are from people who have barely ever heard them before and are honest-to-goodness new fans. I just find that sorta sad in a way. If the remasters are truly that great, maybe I'll give them a listen and judge for myself, but make no mistake, I'm not getting caught up in Rock Band madness!!!

If Rock Band is truly the reason for them selling sooo much... I say bring on Rock Band: Dokken, and then see what happens.
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Postby Jana » Sat Sep 26, 2009 6:46 am

That number is staggering. Amazing. 8)
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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Sep 26, 2009 8:45 am

wastingbeerz wrote:
If Rock Band is truly the reason for them selling sooo much... I say bring on Rock Band: Dokken, and then see what happens.


Jesus Christ- a Dokken Rock Band game? They may sell 11, maybe 12 units if they are lucky. What a piece of shit band. Just be like Journey and put 6 discs in there and sell 100 and that equals platinum right?
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Postby artist4perry » Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:26 am

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Rockindeano wrote:I should also add though that a big reason the Beatles were so damned good sounding was Phil Spector, hair notwithstanding. He has that "wall of sound" thing going on, that sounds amazing. Paul says as much when asked about him.

Here's some Beatles trivia.

Anyone know who the "5th Beatle" was supposed to have been?
Eddie Murphy? :lol: :lol:


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Postby artist4perry » Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:30 am

Actually it was a toss up according to the group, Paul said it was Brian Epstien. Harrison sites Neil Aspenall and Derrek Taylor
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Postby brywool » Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:46 am

Neil. Derek was a wackjob.
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Postby steveo777 » Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:32 am

Rhiannon wrote:Good times for those with stakes in Sony/ATV, hmmm. 8)


Or stakes in Michael Jackson's estate! :wink:
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Postby 4ever4Steve » Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:38 pm

...around these parts was "Murray the 'K'". Very popular disc jockey on NY radio. He was instrumental in bringing the band over for the Shea '64 concert and the Ed Sullivan show :D


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Postby Lula » Sun Sep 27, 2009 1:50 pm

love the beatles! i have been fortunate enough to see paul (thank you maui tom 8) ) and ringo live. "let it be" is one of my all time favorite songs. love the wings stuff too.
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Postby G.I.Jim » Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:04 pm

Deano, I never said that the Beatles "Sucked". They WERE legends back in the day... WAY back in the day! All I'm saying is that the reason for them selling that many albums NOW is strictly because of the release of "Guitar Hero- Beatles". If you don't agree... feel free to give my balls a one-over! :lol: Thanks! :wink:
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Postby wastingbeerz » Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:10 pm

Rockindeano wrote:
wastingbeerz wrote:
If Rock Band is truly the reason for them selling sooo much... I say bring on Rock Band: Dokken, and then see what happens.


Jesus Christ- a Dokken Rock Band game? They may sell 11, maybe 12 units if they are lucky. What a piece of shit band. Just be like Journey and put 6 discs in there and sell 100 and that equals platinum right?



OKOKOKOKOKOKOKOK...............OK!!! Rock Band: Krokus, then!!!
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Postby slucero » Sun Sep 27, 2009 8:30 pm

WalrusOct9 wrote:I explain by saying a) it's the greatest music of all time, and b) old people apparently still buy CD's. :lol:


I'm waiting for the rumored vinyl set that's supposed to be coming out in the winter/spring. That's how the Beatles are supposed to be heard...


G.I.Jim wrote:Deano, I never said that the Beatles "Sucked". They WERE legends back in the day... WAY back in the day! All I'm saying is that the reason for them selling that many albums NOW is strictly because of the release of "Guitar Hero- Beatles". If you don't agree... feel free to give my balls a one-over! :lol: Thanks! :wink:


C'mon Jim.. kids aren't droppin' $250 for the Remasters... its their Boomer parents (or grandparents) that are....

I remember reading somewhere that the largest CD buying demographic was Baby Boomers... bet that's the real reason... we should get demographics of the sales soon enough...

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Postby G.I.Jim » Sun Sep 27, 2009 9:21 pm

slucero wrote:
WalrusOct9 wrote:I explain by saying a) it's the greatest music of all time, and b) old people apparently still buy CD's. :lol:


I'm waiting for the rumored vinyl set that's supposed to be coming out in the winter/spring. That's how the Beatles are supposed to be heard...


G.I.Jim wrote:Deano, I never said that the Beatles "Sucked". They WERE legends back in the day... WAY back in the day! All I'm saying is that the reason for them selling that many albums NOW is strictly because of the release of "Guitar Hero- Beatles". If you don't agree... feel free to give my balls a one-over! :lol: Thanks! :wink:


C'mon Jim.. kids aren't droppin' $250 for the Remasters... its their Boomer parents (or grandparents) that are....

I remember reading somewhere that the largest CD buying demographic was Baby Boomers... bet that's the real reason... we should get demographics of the sales soon enough...


I agree with you... the kids aren't the ones buying most of these cd's. It's the parents of those kids who are seeing the Beatles game. It's also the fact that they're being brought up in the media, and making national news (which those older folks are watching). When you have a sudden boom in album sales, there's always a reason. This one is chalked up to the fact that they just released a huge game with the Beatles name on it. That's my only conclusion. :wink:
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Postby slucero » Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:57 am

G.I.Jim wrote:
slucero wrote:
WalrusOct9 wrote:I explain by saying a) it's the greatest music of all time, and b) old people apparently still buy CD's. :lol:


I'm waiting for the rumored vinyl set that's supposed to be coming out in the winter/spring. That's how the Beatles are supposed to be heard...


G.I.Jim wrote:Deano, I never said that the Beatles "Sucked". They WERE legends back in the day... WAY back in the day! All I'm saying is that the reason for them selling that many albums NOW is strictly because of the release of "Guitar Hero- Beatles". If you don't agree... feel free to give my balls a one-over! :lol: Thanks! :wink:


C'mon Jim.. kids aren't droppin' $250 for the Remasters... its their Boomer parents (or grandparents) that are....

I remember reading somewhere that the largest CD buying demographic was Baby Boomers... bet that's the real reason... we should get demographics of the sales soon enough...


I agree with you... the kids aren't the ones buying most of these cd's. It's the parents of those kids who are seeing the Beatles game. It's also the fact that they're being brought up in the media, and making national news (which those older folks are watching). When you have a sudden boom in album sales, there's always a reason. This one is chalked up to the fact that they just released a huge game with the Beatles name on it. That's my only conclusion. :wink:


Then you'd be wrong my friend...


According to http://rockbandaide.com/the-beatles-roc ... -analysis/ Beatles Rock Band has sold 623,000 units.... that's a bit less than the 2.5 million units the Remasters have sold...

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Postby slucero » Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:15 pm

G.I.Jim wrote:
slucero wrote:
WalrusOct9 wrote:I explain by saying a) it's the greatest music of all time, and b) old people apparently still buy CD's. :lol:


I'm waiting for the rumored vinyl set that's supposed to be coming out in the winter/spring. That's how the Beatles are supposed to be heard...


G.I.Jim wrote:Deano, I never said that the Beatles "Sucked". They WERE legends back in the day... WAY back in the day! All I'm saying is that the reason for them selling that many albums NOW is strictly because of the release of "Guitar Hero- Beatles". If you don't agree... feel free to give my balls a one-over! :lol: Thanks! :wink:


C'mon Jim.. kids aren't droppin' $250 for the Remasters... its their Boomer parents (or grandparents) that are....

I remember reading somewhere that the largest CD buying demographic was Baby Boomers... bet that's the real reason... we should get demographics of the sales soon enough...


I agree with you... the kids aren't the ones buying most of these cd's. It's the parents of those kids who are seeing the Beatles game. It's also the fact that they're being brought up in the media, and making national news (which those older folks are watching). When you have a sudden boom in album sales, there's always a reason. This one is chalked up to the fact that they just released a huge game with the Beatles name on it. That's my only conclusion. :wink:



Not so huge apparently...

http://www.cnbc.com/id/33401172#


Consumers Buried Paul: 'Beatles Rock Band' a Sales Dud

The 2009 version of Beatlemania appears to have nothing on the 60s.

Despite an extensive marketing campaign, positive reviews and some of the most widespread media attention ever given to a video game, “The Beatles: Rock Band” had a relatively lackluster first month on store shelves.

The game did beat its chief competition —Activision’s “Guitar Hero 5” — by nearly a 2:1 margin in September. And, as developer Harmonix and Electronic Arts were quick to point out, that victory was achieved despite Activision offering a free copy of the upcoming “Guitar Hero: Van Halen” to buyers of “GH5.”

That’s fine on the surface, but analysts were expecting the appeal of the Fab Four to move more than 1 million copies of the game last month. Instead, it sold just 583,000, according to numbers from the NPD Group.

Microsoft’s Xbox led the pack, with 254,000 copies sold for the system. The Nintendo Wii moved 208,600 copies. And Sony (SNE) saw nearly 121,000 copies sold for the PS3.

MTV Games, which owns Harmonix, says it was anything but disappointed with the September sales—and that the game is selling on track with its internal expectations.

The less than stellar performance of “The Beatles: Rock Band” is tied, in part, to the ongoing woes of the music/dance genre. While September showed a 72 percent dollar sales increase over the 2008 numbers, the category as a whole is still down markedly year-over-year.

“This was a genre that had done very well,” says Billy Pidgeon of Game Changer Research. “I think Activision and Harmonix and various karaoke games have been slamming new content into the stores so fast that it has caused some consumer fatigue.”

Some players, meanwhile, say the game itself was too similar to previous “Rock Band” titles.

Dr. Whit Anderson bought an early copy of the game, but one month later is planning to trade it in at Gamestop to supplement the cost of a newer title. “[It] felt like an expansion to me, not a full release,” he says. “[It was] cool, but not quite enough to be a stand alone game ($60) purchase.”

The crossover potential of The Beatles with today’s core gamers, who are more likely to be listening to Blink 182 and Jay-Z, isn’t exactly ideal. The group might be timeless, but they’re still a Baby Boomer band at their core.

There is an upside to that, though. The mainstream appeal could give “The Beatles: Rock Band” a long tail at retail. With the holiday season about to arrive, shoppers could view it as a good gift item — especially for older gamers.

And, as console prices continue to drop over the coming years, the typical buyer will be more mainstream than hardcore. That could bode well for the game.

The financial performance of “The Beatles: Rock Band” doesn’t end at the retail register, either. Like other “Rock Band” games, players can purchase downloadable content to expand the game experience. So far, they seem eager to do so.

The game itself shipped with 45 songs. A 46th — “All You Need is Love” — was downloadable via Xbox Live for $2. Harmonix reports that over 100,000 people downloaded the song in September.

On Wednesday, the company released the “Abbey Road” album as downloadable content for players, letting them play songs from the album that were not included with the original game, including “Maxwell's Silver Hammer” and “She Came in Through the Bathroom Window.” Individual songs again cost $2 and the complete album will cost $17 on the PS3 and Xbox 360.

That doesn’t mute the disappointment in the initial numbers, given the hype for the game. Pidgeon, however, notes that regardless of its initial sales, “The Beatles: Rock Band” succeeded on other, less tangible levels.

“I’d say it’s a bit of a disappointment, but I’m not that surprised,” he says. “I think this was more a vanity deal that gave publicity to [MTV’s games unit] and to the Beatles reissues on CD.”

According to EMI, notes sales of those digitally remastered CDs in North America, Japan and the U.K. topped 2.25 million copies in the first five days – meaning maybe Beatlemania is still alive — but it’s not a phenomenon that translates well to more modern forms of entertainment.


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Postby lights1961 » Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:53 am

LOVE The beattles. Long and winding road.... and to think the Beattles were really in known in America for 6 years... and made all this music which is really incredible if you think about it... McCartney/Lennon song writing---we will never see that kind of writing in pop/rock music in our lifetime....



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Postby brywool » Thu Oct 22, 2009 1:21 am

slucero wrote:

Not so huge apparently...

http://www.cnbc.com/id/33401172#


Consumers Buried Paul: 'Beatles Rock Band' a Sales Dud

The 2009 version of Beatlemania appears to have nothing on the 60s.

Despite an extensive .... CUT!





Christmas is coming up. I'm sure it will be a huge seller.
By the way, if you guys would like to buy me Beatles Rockband for my birthday or Christmas, I'd be ever so grateful!!

Btw- I got to play the game for the first time a few weeks ago. Because my alter-ego sings in a band, I had to be the singer. Easy to do, but man, it's embarrassing to sing in front of like 2 or 3 friends. Still, the game is done super well, however, I can see where on a skill level, it might not be as tough as say "Antrhax" guitar hero or something.
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Postby Pelata » Thu Oct 22, 2009 1:55 am

Cuz they're the best fucking songwriters in history. Period. Their music is timeless.


I'm going with this... 8)
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Postby slucero » Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:52 am

+1

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