"This Is It" dvd...

[JeremyP]

...And for the vocals from the show they were all either live or meshed except for Thriller.

If by meshed you mean a mixture of tape and live a la "Man In The Mirror", I agree completely.

That sounds different than the clip JP posted...

Nah, just a slightly different mix. The vocals are more up front in the version Rhiannon posted.

I would love a really specific reason for why you guys believe he was singing to tapes the whole time. Something that you can point to and go, "See? Told you." instead of just theories on why he might be doing it. To listen to his performance and say it's not live, especially when we have an actual studio track that is being sung to at the same show with which we can compare is pretty out there.

[bluejeangirl76]

Got my dvd a little while ago. will be hiding from the terrible cold tonight watching it.

[Behshad]

...And for the vocals from the show they were all either live or meshed except for Thriller.

If by meshed you mean a mixture of tape and live a la "Man In The Mirror", I agree completely.

That sounds different than the clip JP posted...

Nah, just a slightly different mix. The vocals are more up front in the version Rhiannon posted.

I would love a really specific reason for why you guys believe he was singing to tapes the whole time. Something that you can point to and go, "See? Told you." instead of just theories on why he might be doing it. To listen to his performance and say it's not live, especially when we have an actual studio track that is being sung to at the same show with which we can compare is pretty out there.

I am telling you "SEE TOLD YOU?" if you look at the ENTIRE movie,,,, just the FACT that he was NOT capable of doing those moves AND sing at the same time, 10 years ago(when he was in much better shape), is enough reason for me to KNOW that there is no way he could sing & dance at the same time ,,

[Ratgirl]

I said I'd wait for the DVD, so I'll prolly rent it and check it out

Ditto.. If I like it enough, I'll buy it. It's good to have options.

[isla]

Cebu dancing inmates in 'This Is It' DVD launch

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/entertainmen ... deoPlayer3

MANILA, Philippines – The “Thriller” routine of the Cebu dancing inmates captured audiences worldwide, including the King of Pop himself, the late Michael Jackson.

“Michael saw the Cebu dancing inmates on YouTube and enjoyed them immensely. During rehearsals, we would watch and he would get tremendous joy,” Jackson’s world-famous choreographer, Travis Payne, told ABS-CBN Correspondent and Anchor Karen Davila.

Payne, along with two of Jackson’s backup dancers, taught the inmates at the Cebu Provincial Detention and Rehabilitation Center new routines for a special dance video that will be released to coincide with the “This Is It” DVD launch this month.

The choreographer said it was but fitting to include a special dance number from the now world-renowned Cebu inmates for the special “This Is It” DVD launch.

The Cebu dancing inmates even made it to the “Michael Jackson Opus,” the only new publication that was approved and endorsed by Jackson himself and the estate of Michael Jackson.

The Opus, which was released last month, features more than 300 rare and previously unpublished photos. Two pages of the photo book featured the Cebu dancing inmates.

Special routines

Payne and dancers Daniel Celebre and Dres Reid taught the inmates the “Drill” and “They Don't Really Care About Us” routines.

The two routines were unique made-for-tour performances for “This Is It," which was supposed to be Jackson’s final curtain call concert tour.

It took a full day for the prisoners to learn the routine on Monday. Their performance will be taped on Tuesday.

“This Is It,” a global box office hit, includes Jackson’s rehearsal footage until his untimely demise on June 25, 2009 due to cardiac arrest. The “This Is It” DVD will be launched worldwide on January 26.

Watch out for the worldwide launch of the DVD as well as ABS-CBN's exclusive video footage of the full experience very soon. - With a report from Karen Davila, ABS-CBN News




Dancing Inmates - Michael Jackson's This Is It

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XCj3BBQxSs

[StevePerryHair]

...And for the vocals from the show they were all either live or meshed except for Thriller.

If by meshed you mean a mixture of tape and live a la "Man In The Mirror", I agree completely.

That sounds different than the clip JP posted...

Nah, just a slightly different mix. The vocals are more up front in the version Rhiannon posted.

I would love a really specific reason for why you guys believe he was singing to tapes the whole time. Something that you can point to and go, "See? Told you." instead of just theories on why he might be doing it. To listen to his performance and say it's not live, especially when we have an actual studio track that is being sung to at the same show with which we can compare is pretty out there.

I am telling you "SEE TOLD YOU?" if you look at the ENTIRE movie,,,, just the FACT that he was NOT capable of doing those moves AND sing at the same time, 10 years ago(when he was in much better shape), is enough reason for me to KNOW that there is no way he could sing & dance at the same time ,,

How about the fact that at a certain point in the movie, when he DID sing the live vocals at the end of "The Way You Make Me Feel" he got upset with himself. Upset that he sang it and that he was WORRIED about the strain on his voice??? So all those rehearsals were live, him belting out the vocals? Yet that one very minor blluesy part, he was worried he "hurt"them? It makes no sense to believe what we were hearing was all live. I really do think he was saving his voice and those performance rehearsals were about the dancing and the sets and putting it all together before the upcoming dress rehearsals.

And the fact he had different clothes on and the shots were going back and forth to different scenes during the same song, yet the vocals stayed steady and the same should be a clue too. I also dont' think it's that big a deal though. This was not a DVD of the actual show. Only rehearsals and something that they never expected to be using as a DVD. They thought the actual concert would be our DVD and this would end up the special features.

To me it was a mix of emotions. I enjoyed it, but it made me feel sad and frustrated we couldn't see the finished product because it would have been AWESOME with the production, stage sets, dancing and costumes alone.

[YoungJRNY]

Jesus Christ, just watch the god damn movie and enjoy his last days putting together his last damn tour. He sang live, and had mixes with pre-recorded tapes. Big f*ckin deal. Love it.

[Lora]

Jesus Christ, just watch the god damn movie and enjoy his last days putting together his last damn tour. He sang live, and had mixes with pre-recorded tapes. Big f*ckin deal. Love it.

I totally agree. These were just rehearsals and we are lucky to have the footage, regardless of how spliced together the performances were. I could give a crap if he was able to moonwalk across the stage anymore. Some of his most subtle and delicate moves are the ones that touch me the most. I still can't watch "Human Nature" or "Man In The Mirror" without tearing up. It's about what Micheal conveys through his music and dance - not what notes he can hit or what dance moves he can still do.

[Saint John]

The main reason he sounded So good was cause of the great quality of the tapes .

Dude...This Is It was mostly all live....how do you not hear this?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nkv9awwwidE "Wanna Be Startin' Something" - LIVE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4ygUxLhBl0 "Human Nature" - LIVE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4NuCHLz1tI "I Just Can't Stop Loving You" - LIVE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VdIK8asuvc "I Just Can't Stop Loving You" pt2 - LIVE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc9Mc7LelTA "I Want You Back" - LIVE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyLs6cclUV8 "Stop! The Love You Save" - LIVE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpMaQ12jZ_g "I'll Be There" - LIVE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLhDJ5ygQ0Y "Earth Song" - LIVE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2RRQHe2lms "Black Or White" - LIVE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9MlMrLPahw "Beat It" - LIVE

Just watched these. That motherfucker was as good as anyone ever. He still had the vibrato and most of his smooth sound ... minus a little "stuffiness" in his nasal cavity due to having nostrils that you could plug with toothpicks. But, man, he could still sing so well. I was so excited about going to see him overseas.

[StevePerryHair]

Jesus Christ, just watch the god damn movie and enjoy his last days putting together his last damn tour. He sang live, and had mixes with pre-recorded tapes. Big f*ckin deal. Love it.

I totally agree. These were just rehearsals and we are lucky to have the footage, regardless of how spliced together the performances were. I could give a crap if he was able to moonwalk across the stage anymore. Some of his most subtle and delicate moves are the ones that touch me the most. I still can't watch "Human Nature" or "Man In The Mirror" without tearing up. It's about what Micheal conveys through his music and dance - not what notes he can hit or what dance moves he can still do.

I don't think anyone was not appreciating his talent or saying they didn't enjoy the DVD. There were just some refusing to believe it wasn't all live singing was all. I was emotional watching it as well. For what could have been. This should have been the special feature on the concert DVD. It's sad to me even though it was cool to watch.

[Melissa]

Love the clips of WBSS, Human Nature (my fav MJ song), and Beat It. Will have to pick this up since we missed seeing it when in theaters.

[Jeremey]

Of all the songs you posted above , only ONE is live, BEAT IT ,,,,
when I said they're taped , I didn't mean the used the very original track. Just like Lynn mentioned , they're re-records , but he isn't singing any of those live , except Beat It.
The rest are all tape. Of course , you can't tell JeremyP , cause you also thought Augeri was singing live.

Well, after reading that, I think you must be just trying to stir the pot here....

If this is all lip syncing, I guess my favorite part is when he lip syncs being out of breath, only sings half lyrics, and stops in the middle of songs to direct the band, etc. Now THAT is talent....



There are a few production numbers where they are obviously using fully recorded tracks and splicing together rehearsal footage, but I'm 43:59 into the DVD as I write this and the only full on lip synced production number I've seen has been They Don't Really Care About Us. Obviously they are splicing together musical tracks from different rehearsal sessions, and the entire show is on a click so that's easy to do...The director kind of had a responsibility to make an entertaining movie, not to set up a Flip cam and release a straight up unedited rehearsal tape to theatres.

Come on...Who ever said Michael Jackson couldn't sing anymore? Or dance?

Only Journey fans....

[StevePerryHair]

You are all blowing what was said out of proportion. No one was saying he wasn't still talented and that he couldn't sing. Just that this whole DVD was not live singing. That was it. Geez

[Saint John]

Of all the songs you posted above , only ONE is live, BEAT IT ,,,,
when I said they're taped , I didn't mean the used the very original track. Just like Lynn mentioned , they're re-records , but he isn't singing any of those live , except Beat It.
The rest are all tape. Of course , you can't tell JeremyP , cause you also thought Augeri was singing live.

Well, after reading that, I think you must be just trying to stir the pot here....

If this is all lip syncing, I guess my favorite part is when he lip syncs being out of breath, only sings half lyrics, and stops in the middle of songs to direct the band, etc. Now THAT is talent....



There are a few production numbers where they are obviously using fully recorded tracks and splicing together rehearsal footage, but I'm 43:59 into the DVD as I write this and the only full on lip synced production number I've seen has been They Don't Really Care About Us. Obviously they are splicing together musical tracks from different rehearsal sessions, and the entire show is on a click so that's easy to do...The director kind of had a responsibility to make an entertaining movie, not to set up a Flip cam and release a straight up unedited rehearsal tape to theatres.

Come on...Who ever said Michael Jackson couldn't sing anymore? Or dance?

Only Journey fans....

It's gonna be fucking great in February in Cleveland when I get to watch the 2 of you argue in person.

[Jeremey]

You are all blowing what was said out of proportion. No one was saying he wasn't still talented and that he couldn't sing. Just that this whole DVD was not live singing. That was it. Geez

The impression I got was that the movie was terrific to some of us rubes who actually believe MJ was singing and dancing, and those who knew better thought it was important to pull the curtain back on the farce of a film. That's just the impression I got. Sorry if I misunderstood.

[bluejeangirl76]

Jesus Christ, just watch the god damn movie and enjoy his last days putting together his last damn tour. He sang live, and had mixes with pre-recorded tapes. Big f*ckin deal. Love it.

I totally agree. These were just rehearsals and we are lucky to have the footage, regardless of how spliced together the performances were. I could give a crap if he was able to moonwalk across the stage anymore. Some of his most subtle and delicate moves are the ones that touch me the most. I still can't watch "Human Nature" or "Man In The Mirror" without tearing up. It's about what Micheal conveys through his music and dance - not what notes he can hit or what dance moves he can still do.

I don't think anyone was not appreciating his talent or saying they didn't enjoy the DVD. There were just some refusing to believe it wasn't all live singing was all. I was emotional watching it as well. For what could have been. This should have been the special feature on the concert DVD. It's sad to me even though it was cool to watch.

This whole argument made little sense to me. Of course it was live. I mean, obviously you have 3 different rehearsal days and you have cuts to Mike in different clothes, etc, so you have day 1, day 2 and day 3 and you cut back and forth (the video) - but the singing was the best on day 2, or whatever, so you use that audio and sync it with the other two videos - how is this so hard to understand? Most of it is long/wide shots for the dancing anyway so if you're looking at video from day 1 with audio from day 2, it doesn't matter that much. The singing was certainly live at the time all this film was shot.

And damn, it was all put together really well in the end.

It was said in a couple places in the bonus features about how he was reserved with the singing and dancing because of trying not to burn out and ruin his voice before the real shows, (and he does say it once in the movie too) so if it is isn't the most perfect performance in places, it's not that big a deal, it was still a great bunch of footage to watch. And can you imagine what the final product would have been? Holy hell. It would have been phenomenal!

[G.I.Jim]

Of all the songs you posted above , only ONE is live, BEAT IT ,,,,
when I said they're taped , I didn't mean the used the very original track. Just like Lynn mentioned , they're re-records , but he isn't singing any of those live , except Beat It.
The rest are all tape. Of course , you can't tell JeremyP , cause you also thought Augeri was singing live.

Well, after reading that, I think you must be just trying to stir the pot here....

If this is all lip syncing, I guess my favorite part is when he lip syncs being out of breath, only sings half lyrics, and stops in the middle of songs to direct the band, etc. Now THAT is talent....



There are a few production numbers where they are obviously using fully recorded tracks and splicing together rehearsal footage, but I'm 43:59 into the DVD as I write this and the only full on lip synced production number I've seen has been They Don't Really Care About Us. Obviously they are splicing together musical tracks from different rehearsal sessions, and the entire show is on a click so that's easy to do...The director kind of had a responsibility to make an entertaining movie, not to set up a Flip cam and release a straight up unedited rehearsal tape to theatres.

Come on...Who ever said Michael Jackson couldn't sing anymore? Or dance?

Only Journey fans....

Amen! I've been trying to get this through Beshad's thick skull for two days now. I GUARANTEE that he'll still come back with some rediculous post though... just watch!

[Jeremey]

Jesus Christ, just watch the god damn movie and enjoy his last days putting together his last damn tour. He sang live, and had mixes with pre-recorded tapes. Big f*ckin deal. Love it.

I totally agree. These were just rehearsals and we are lucky to have the footage, regardless of how spliced together the performances were. I could give a crap if he was able to moonwalk across the stage anymore. Some of his most subtle and delicate moves are the ones that touch me the most. I still can't watch "Human Nature" or "Man In The Mirror" without tearing up. It's about what Micheal conveys through his music and dance - not what notes he can hit or what dance moves he can still do.

I don't think anyone was not appreciating his talent or saying they didn't enjoy the DVD. There were just some refusing to believe it wasn't all live singing was all. I was emotional watching it as well. For what could have been. This should have been the special feature on the concert DVD. It's sad to me even though it was cool to watch.

This whole argument made little sense to me. Of course it was live. I mean, obviously you have 3 different rehearsal days and you have cuts to Mike in different clothes, etc, so you have day 1, day 2 and day 3 and you cut back and forth (the video) - but the singing was the best on day 2, or whatever, so you use that audio and sync it with the other two videos - how is this so hard to understand? Most of it is long/wide shots for the dancing anyway so if you're looking at video from day 1 with audio from day 2, it doesn't matter that much. The singing was certainly live at the time all this film was shot.

And damn, it was all put together really well in the end.

It was said in a couple places in the bonus features about how he was reserved with the singing and dancing because of trying not to burn out and ruin his voice before the real shows, (and he does say it once in the movie too) so if it is isn't the most perfect performance in places, it's not that big a deal, it was still a great bunch of footage to watch. And can you imagine what the final product would have been? Holy hell. It would have been phenomenal!

Right-O!

[Saint John]

rediculous

Why do you and Strangegrey always fuck this word up??? It's ridiculous, pickle licker.

[Jeremey]

And Vincent Price was lipping also!

[StevePerryHair]

You are all blowing what was said out of proportion. No one was saying he wasn't still talented and that he couldn't sing. Just that this whole DVD was not live singing. That was it. Geez

The impression I got was that the movie was terrific to some of us rubes who actually believe MJ was singing and dancing, and those who knew better thought it was important to pull the curtain back on the farce of a film. That's just the impression I got. Sorry if I misunderstood.

Well there is just no way it was all live. The vocals were too strong and too perfect for what it was he was doing in those rehearsals. I DO believe he was singing, but I also think it was enhanced for the dvd, or piped for him to "not strain his voice" at the rehearsals. Whatever it was, there is no way what we were hearing were his vocals 100% of the time. Thats ALL that was pointed out.

Did ANYONE notice that when he sang "the way you make me feel" and did that bluesy thing at the end that he was UPSET at himself that he sang that??? He said he shouldn't have because he didnt' want to strain his voice???? Why on earth would he be worried about that one little part, if he was really belting out all those songs in rehearsals? People are just hearing what they want to.

I believe he is one of the MOST talented musicians of all time. With the music, the dancing, the show... all of it. He was SO much more than a voice! I would never care one way or the other what they needed to do for those rehearsals. I just happen to believe they were a "rough draft" before the real ones and it was about getting people used to the stage, sets, and him listening to the musicians, and it had LITTLE to do with him working on his singing. And that is what we got to see and it was a treat, and I loved it. But it FRUSTRATED me that I saw what could have been! I saw the vision, and it will never be. It's just sad

[Rhiannon]

Again, these rehearsals actually within the Staples center were June 21-23, sans Thriller/Threatened vignette run-through that wrapped around 1am on the 24th.

It was just a rough draft. Uncle Kenny pieced the bits together well. And so the hell what if one or two tracks are 'lipped'. He's Michael Fucking Jackson and he can Moonwalk on your mom if he wants.

Hmph.

[StevePerryHair]

Again, these rehearsals actually within the Staples center were June 21-23, sans Thriller/Threatened vignette run-through that wrapped around 1am on the 24th.

It was just a rough draft. Uncle Kenny pieced the bits together well. And so the hell what if one or two tracks are 'lipped'. He's Michael Fucking Jackson and he can Moonwalk on your mom if he wants.

Hmph.

Again, I DON'T care what they had to do!! But when people came in here claiming it was all live, thats the ONLY reason I put in my 2 cents. I really don't care. It's pretty OBVIOUS I am a HUGE fan.

[Saint John]

He's Michael Fucking Jackson and he can Moonwalk on your mom if he wants.

... or your son.

[Jeremey]

Again, these rehearsals actually within the Staples center were June 21-23, sans Thriller/Threatened vignette run-through that wrapped around 1am on the 24th.

It was just a rough draft. Uncle Kenny pieced the bits together well. And so the hell what if one or two tracks are 'lipped'. He's Michael Fucking Jackson and he can Moonwalk on your mom if he wants.

Hmph.

Again, I DON'T care what they had to do!! But when people came in here claiming it was all live, thats the ONLY reason I put in my 2 cents. I really don't care. It's pretty OBVIOUS I am a HUGE fan.

I thought it was B that claimed it was all TAPED (except for Beat It)....That's the only reason I chimed in.

[bluejeangirl76]

He's Michael Fucking Jackson and he can Moonwalk on your mom if he wants.

He moonwalked on my mom once. That's why she don't hear so good now.

[G.I.Jim]

rediculous

Why do you and Strangegrey always fuck this word up??? It's ridiculous, pickle licker.

FUCK!!! I KNOW how to spell that fucker too. I didn't proof-read. My bad dog!

[Rhiannon]

Again, these rehearsals actually within the Staples center were June 21-23, sans Thriller/Threatened vignette run-through that wrapped around 1am on the 24th.

It was just a rough draft. Uncle Kenny pieced the bits together well. And so the hell what if one or two tracks are 'lipped'. He's Michael Fucking Jackson and he can Moonwalk on your mom if he wants.

Hmph.

Again, I DON'T care what they had to do!! But when people came in here claiming it was all live, thats the ONLY reason I put in my 2 cents. I really don't care. It's pretty OBVIOUS I am a HUGE fan.

Not talking to you Lynners, I'm still bitchy at the atmosphere earlier here. Some give the impression of lipping being a mortal sin because of what those Journey dudes pulled a few years ago.

[StevePerryHair]

Again, these rehearsals actually within the Staples center were June 21-23, sans Thriller/Threatened vignette run-through that wrapped around 1am on the 24th.

It was just a rough draft. Uncle Kenny pieced the bits together well. And so the hell what if one or two tracks are 'lipped'. He's Michael Fucking Jackson and he can Moonwalk on your mom if he wants.

Hmph.

Again, I DON'T care what they had to do!! But when people came in here claiming it was all live, thats the ONLY reason I put in my 2 cents. I really don't care. It's pretty OBVIOUS I am a HUGE fan.

I thought it was B that claimed it was all TAPED (except for Beat It)....That's the only reason I chimed in.

I think what he meant was what I was saying, but you'll have to ask him. That they may have used "enhanced" vocals from something pre-recorded live with is vocals. Or something they used to make the dvd flow. I agreed with that in my previous posts. And it was SO obvious that MJ was worried about his voice. He mentioned it more than once in this very dvd. There just isnt' any way he could have belted all that out if the was that worried about strain. So to me it stands to reason. But I DON'T care and it didn't ruin one minute of the dvd for me. The only thing that did is what could have been with this show:(

[StevePerryHair]

Again, these rehearsals actually within the Staples center were June 21-23, sans Thriller/Threatened vignette run-through that wrapped around 1am on the 24th.

It was just a rough draft. Uncle Kenny pieced the bits together well. And so the hell what if one or two tracks are 'lipped'. He's Michael Fucking Jackson and he can Moonwalk on your mom if he wants.

Hmph.

Again, I DON'T care what they had to do!! But when people came in here claiming it was all live, thats the ONLY reason I put in my 2 cents. I really don't care. It's pretty OBVIOUS I am a HUGE fan.

Not talking to you Lynners, I'm still bitchy at the atmosphere earlier here. Some give the impression of lipping being a mortal sin because of what those Journey dudes pulled a few years ago.

Oh! No, this is not the same to me at all either. Even if MJ would have needed help for the real shows. He is an all around talent. The dancing, the sets, the performers, the EVERYTHING would have been so awesome! With journey all your getting is music