Boo Who

[Jana]

Sorry, but they DID suck. I am also a big Who fan. Always have been.
Just because they're The Who doesn't give them an excuse to be sloppy as sh*t at a nation-wide event like the SB.
Roger's voice can be excused because of his age (right Jana? ). Pete's sloppiness and under-rehearsed-ness can't.
He didn't have to go out and "play it like the record". But playing in time, in key, and singing on pitch and where your supposed to... that's Bar Band 101 kids. Know your parts and above all REHEARSE.
The Who are still a brilliant band, even without John and Keith. Always have been. But they weren't tight in the least, at least Roger and Pete weren't. I'm not sure why that's okay and why I'm not entitled to voice that opinion.
The show they did for the 9/11 show WAS brilliant, not to mention friggin emotional. This one just paled by comparison. So I'm let down by it. I'm a musician and I hate to see my heroes not do well. I will again say that it was nice to see Zak doing so well with them. I wonder what will happen to him now that Oasis is no longer?

Roger's voice was crap and he acted very lackluster and not involved, and Pete sucked.
If you're comparing Roger to Mick in your voice can be excused b/c of age remark, ain't gonna cut it, Bry. Mick sounded good.

I'm not being harsh on these guys. If it was a good performance I would have been happy. I'm not usually so critical on performances, but this was NOT good for me. I lost interest.

That's not what I said about Mick...
I said that Mick would be better suited not worrying about "the Moves" and worrying more about his voice. Mick is Mick, he's never been a great singer, but a great front guy. Oh well.

Oops. Sorry, I have ADD and forgot your point re Mick in your previous post. You're right. You were talking about his moves

[Deb]

I guess the most impressive part of show, aside from the pyro & lighting effects, was the drummer, his clear drums & his colored cymbals. He kicked some serious tail.

Zak is a friggin' kick ass drummer and he's by far the closest to Moon they were ever going to get.
( did you know that Moon was Zak's godfather?! )

I'm totally rolling my eyes at all the hostility. They're The Motherfk'n Who, come on. No one ever said Daltrey wasn't having trouble lately... we all know it, but give me a break, he's a few weeks away from 66 and he's been at this since the 60s. 40 years of singing that material is bound to wear on a guy. The years that The Who weren't doing one of their many farewell tours, he was out there doing his own deal and still singing that material. No, it wasn't the best. But I have heard him do worse.

Any of you got a job performing halftime at the superbowl? Hmm. Thought not.

p.s. - Daltrey's nearly 66 and STILL at it. Credit for that, in the least.

LOL, you sound like me on a Mr Big rant. You go girl!

[brywool]

I guess the most impressive part of show, aside from the pyro & lighting effects, was the drummer, his clear drums & his colored cymbals. He kicked some serious tail.

Zak is a friggin' kick ass drummer and he's by far the closest to Moon they were ever going to get.
( did you know that Moon was Zak's godfather?! )

I'm totally rolling my eyes at all the hostility. They're The Motherfk'n Who, come on. No one ever said Daltrey wasn't having trouble lately... we all know it, but give me a break, he's a few weeks away from 66 and he's been at this since the 60s. 40 years of singing that material is bound to wear on a guy. The years that The Who weren't doing one of their many farewell tours, he was out there doing his own deal and still singing that material. No, it wasn't the best. But I have heard him do worse.

Any of you got a job performing halftime at the superbowl? Hmm. Thought not.

p.s. - Daltrey's nearly 66 and STILL at it. Credit for that, in the least.

HOW AM I BEING HOSTILE??? I'm just saying they weren't good, and I don't think I have heard them be worse.

LOL! You're right, that wasn't hostile....

God, The Who SUCKED.

Pete was ridiculously terrible.

Terrible.

Pete was just embarrassingly bad.

The worst superbowl performance I've ever seen and probably the worst Who performances I've ever seen.
Major letdown.

I knew it wasn't gonna be great, but yikes...

I'm just saying, no, it wasn't great - but it isn't as if they came out live on TV and slaughtered puppies or anything.

Yeah, yer right. They should be able to take a national stage completely unrehearsed and sloppy as crap just cuz they're the Who. If The Beatles went on and sucked like that, I'd be all over them too. One thing I don't get, you're the one that made a comment about Journey last year. Arnel was a bit pitchy, but NOTHING like this show yesterday from the Who.

Do you even know what a good performance is?

Now, I'm being HOSTILE in case you missed it.

[lights1961]

THE WHO WAS FUCKING GREAT... and I am sticking to that story... At 66 Daltry would blow out a knee if he jumped around...just saying...

[Michigan Girl]

I remember all the JOURNEY excuses last year!!!

[brywool]

I remember all the JOURNEY excuses last year!!!

the guy had a pitch problem last year. So did Carrie Underwood yesterday. Her last note was horrendously flat.
I guess that mean she sucks too? No, it means she had a bad performance. The Who yesterday was a bad performance and it would've helped had PETE been more on his game. Roger's voice is what it is. I'm cutting him slack. Pete is a guitarist playing songs that are not that difficult. I'm not cutting him slack.

whatever. I don't care if you agree with me or not. If a local band went in and performed a gig like that yesterday at a local club, they'd not get asked back. But because they're the Who, it can just slide...

I guarantee you if this was some younger band (Foo Fighters, Kings of Leon, Green Day) and they performed like the Who did, people here would be all over them.

[brywool]

THE WHO WAS FUCKING GREAT... and I am sticking to that story... At 66 Daltry would blow out a knee if he jumped around...just saying...

I could care less if he jumped around. Pete was all over the place though!
Roger could pretty much kick anybody's ass. It's amazing what good shape that guy's in.

[bluejeangirl76]

I guess that mean she sucks too? No, it means she had a bad performance. The Who yesterday was a bad performance and it would've helped had PETE been more on his game. Roger's voice is what it is. I'm cutting him slack. Pete is a guitarist playing songs that are not that difficult. I'm not cutting him slack.

I agree on that. Pete was pretty off.

[lights1961]

I remember all the JOURNEY excuses last year!!!

[brywool]

I guess that mean she sucks too? No, it means she had a bad performance. The Who yesterday was a bad performance and it would've helped had PETE been more on his game. Roger's voice is what it is. I'm cutting him slack. Pete is a guitarist playing songs that are not that difficult. I'm not cutting him slack.

I agree on that. Pete was pretty off.

Well, there ya go. I don't HATE The Who or anything, jeez.
Watch here @ 3:12- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCqgtb3N ... re=related
Pete is so far off the mark and Roger's doing great actually. I did like Pete's "DO YA!?" But still man, he just kind of was just so sloppy. Roger got better as it went on. Pete got worse.

[Michigan Girl]

I remember all the JOURNEY excuses last year!!!

the guy had a pitch problem last year. So did Carrie Underwood yesterday. Her last note was horrendously flat.
I guess that mean she sucks too? No, it means she had a bad performance. The Who yesterday was a bad performance and it would've helped had PETE been more on his game. Roger's voice is what it is. I'm cutting him slack. Pete is a guitarist playing songs that are not that difficult. I'm not cutting him slack.

whatever. I don't care if you agree with me or not. If a local band went in and performed a gig like that yesterday at a local club, they'd not get asked back. But because they're the Who, it can just slide...

I guarantee you if this was some younger band (Foo Fighters, Kings of Leon, Green Day) and they performed like the Who did, people here would be all over them.

I absolutely understand where you are coming from!! This was obviously not their best performance!!
Rog's voice is old and not what it used to be...we knew that going in, RIGHT?!?! Perhaps we could
have expected better from Pete...Indeed!! I just wasn't pissed off by the performance
and I enjoyed the show. I'd still absolutely see them live and I'm always thrilled when the young
people get to see these old classics and totally get a kick out of it!!:wink:

[kgdjpubs]

I thought they were great...just because of who they are and they're still doing it. Daltrey was a little lame, didn't work it much. (I bet his signature scream was 'enhanced'.) Townsend tried to work it but his jacket & shirttail kept getting in the way. Was 'the show' as good as Prince or Springsteen? No, not at all. But ya know what? This is The f'ing WHO. They're way cool.

I guess the most impressive part of show, aside from the pyro & lighting effects, was the drummer, his clear drums & his colored cymbals. He kicked some serious tail.


later~

You know who the drummer is, right?
Ringo's son.

by the way THIS is a quality Who performance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjA_RtsBfAo

They absolutely stole the show at the concert for New York. They ROCKED.

THAT was a good Who performance. Take away the stage show (which admittedly was spectacular), and you were left with a very average performance of a band going through the motions. It did get better after a flat opening, but the live spark just wasn't there--for whatever reason. They just weren't clicking well at the Superbowl.

OK, so who's left that hasn't done a Superbowl in recent years? My vote is Billy Joel. He's got some songs that would translate well to the Superbowl "show", and still puts on a darn good live show.

[brywool]

I remember all the JOURNEY excuses last year!!!

the guy had a pitch problem last year. So did Carrie Underwood yesterday. Her last note was horrendously flat.
I guess that mean she sucks too? No, it means she had a bad performance. The Who yesterday was a bad performance and it would've helped had PETE been more on his game. Roger's voice is what it is. I'm cutting him slack. Pete is a guitarist playing songs that are not that difficult. I'm not cutting him slack.

whatever. I don't care if you agree with me or not. If a local band went in and performed a gig like that yesterday at a local club, they'd not get asked back. But because they're the Who, it can just slide...

I guarantee you if this was some younger band (Foo Fighters, Kings of Leon, Green Day) and they performed like the Who did, people here would be all over them.

I absolutely understand where you are coming from!! This was obviously not their best performance!!
Rog's voice is old and not what it used to be...we knew that going in, RIGHT?!?! Perhaps we could
have expected better from Pete...Indeed!! I just wasn't pissed off by the performance
and I enjoyed the show. I'd still absolutely see them live and I'm always thrilled when the young
people get to see these old classics and totally get a kick out of it!!:wink:

Roger got better as it went on. His voice (or was it a track??) warmed up considerably. I wasn't pissed off...But Pete wasn't good. I guess he's just being Pete. He's kind of always been like that on guitar, but his vocals are usually more supportive of Roger. Watch that New York Perfomance up above. HOLY FU** they were brilliant that night.

Good musicianship and performance is important to me, so I call it when I see it.

[brywool]

I thought they were great...just because of who they are and they're still doing it. Daltrey was a little lame, didn't work it much. (I bet his signature scream was 'enhanced'.) Townsend tried to work it but his jacket & shirttail kept getting in the way. Was 'the show' as good as Prince or Springsteen? No, not at all. But ya know what? This is The f'ing WHO. They're way cool.

I guess the most impressive part of show, aside from the pyro & lighting effects, was the drummer, his clear drums & his colored cymbals. He kicked some serious tail.


later~

You know who the drummer is, right?
Ringo's son.

by the way THIS is a quality Who performance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjA_RtsBfAo

They absolutely stole the show at the concert for New York. They ROCKED.

THAT was a good Who performance. Take away the stage show (which admittedly was spectacular), and you were left with a very average performance of a band going through the motions. It did get better after a flat opening, but the live spark just wasn't there--for whatever reason. They just weren't clicking well at the Superbowl.

OK, so who's left that hasn't done a Superbowl in recent years? My vote is Billy Joel. He's got some songs that would translate well to the Superbowl "show", and still puts on a darn good live show.

Billy Joel would be good if he didn't do stuff like Uptown Girl, etc.
He had 2 late albums that were great.... Storm Front? and River of Dreams. Those had some great songs.
If he came out and did the one about Vietnam, that'd also rock. Billy Joel's a good performer. Or was. Didn't he retire?

[bluejeangirl76]

I absolutely understand where you are coming from!! This was obviously not their best performance!!
Rog's voice is old and not what it used to be...we knew that going in, RIGHT?!?! Perhaps we could
have expected better from Pete...Indeed!! I just wasn't pissed off by the performance
and I enjoyed the show. I'd still absolutely see them live and I'm always thrilled when the young
people get to see these old classics and totally get a kick out of it!!:wink:

Absolutely. Most my age aren't die hard fans, but I am, and I liked it. Been lucky enough to see them live 3 times and I'd go again in a minute. Even the last show I saw (2006) was not the best and Roger had big vocal trouble, but screw it, it's always a thrill for me to see these guys live.

Pete and Roger have both had better days. But they didn't ruin the whole even, as a few have kind of made it out. My sister and I are both long time die hards (she's the reason I've been a fan since age 6) and we both thought it was cool. Zak was totally a HIGHLIGHT - always is (he even got a write up on MTV.com!) and that was a seriously wicked drumkit! I hope we see that pop up again!!

[Lula]

tough crowd

not great by any means, but it is good to see the faces and hear the music. the years have taken their toll on many of th egreat acts, such is life. the who have have been one of my favorites and i enjoyed it for what it was- a halftime show.

[kgdjpubs]

OK, so who's left that hasn't done a Superbowl in recent years? My vote is Billy Joel. He's got some songs that would translate well to the Superbowl "show", and still puts on a darn good live show.

Billy Joel would be good if he didn't do stuff like Uptown Girl, etc.
He had 2 late albums that were great.... Storm Front? and River of Dreams. Those had some great songs.
If he came out and did the one about Vietnam, that'd also rock. Billy Joel's a good performer. Or was. Didn't he retire?

I think he's still around. Just toured a year or two ago.

The thing with the Superbowl is that it's more of a visual show than a rock concert, and that restricts what will go over well at that show. You can put on a good rock concert and still not put on a good "Superbowl show". I have seen several groups that fell into the "put a rock show at the Superbowl" and it just didn't work out. For that reason alone, I'm not sure Journey has the right catalogue to put on a good Superbowl show. I'm not sure how you would translate some of the material to the lasers/fireworks/pyrotechnics display that people expect.

I would be thinking Billy Joel would be doing something closer to You May Be Right, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUmP-aS0fYM, than Uptown Girl. Pick the right songs in the right order, and Billy Joel could do a spectacular one. He's got some songs that would be well-suited for the Superbowl.

[Red13JoePa]

the who have have been one of my favorites and i enjoyed it for what it was- a halftime show.

A point being lost on many.
Not exactly optimum performance conditions and environs!

[Behshad]

the who have have been one of my favorites and i enjoyed it for what it was- a halftime show.

A point being lost on many.
Not exactly optimum performance conditions and environs!

I cant belive you agree with her, specially since your avatar suggests that she is the reason for your pic expiration

[Red13JoePa]

the who have have been one of my favorites and i enjoyed it for what it was- a halftime show.

A point being lost on many.
Not exactly optimum performance conditions and environs!

I cant belive you agree with her, specially since your avatar suggests that she is the reason for your pic expiration

LMAO! Just seeing that.
Deano, fix my av!

[stevew2]

I t got better . He always screamed alot when he sang, thats problably what fucked his voice up. I still enjoyed it though

[Moon Beam]

Didn't he retire?

Sure hope not Sir, I really like this more recent one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pOA63dgy-Y

Oh ya and just so as my post pertains to the topic of thread, I didn't get a chance
to see The Who so I have no clue how they sounded.

[Maui Tom]

1:33 in...lipping it...we caught it at the house too....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUl3INCPsc4

[brywool]

the who have have been one of my favorites and i enjoyed it for what it was- a halftime show.

A point being lost on many.
Not exactly optimum performance conditions and environs!

Come on...
Journey's one of my favorites (one of all of our favorites here) yet people here don't waste a chance to shoot down Arnel for the slightest nuances of performance. Yet with the Who, we're giving them a free pass? APs problems are NOTHING like what the Who had yesterday. They're minuscule in comparison, yet some here just blow them way out of proportion.

It's not a point lost on many Joe. The Who- ONE OF ROCK AND ROLL'S GREATEST BANDS didn't live up to the hype or their well-earned reputation. Many out there feel the same way (if not here on the MR forums). The reviews out there have been mostly negative. If you guys had seen that act in a club, you'd have left. Whatever...

[brywool]

Didn't he retire?

Sure hope not Sir, I really like this more recent one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pOA63dgy-Y

Oh ya and just so as my post pertains to the topic of thread, I didn't get a chance
to see The Who so I have no clue how they sounded.

Okay, I actually thought he retired. I don't think he's done a new album since River of Dreams.
He did sing with Paul at the Citi Field opening, which was cool.

[Ehwmatt]

Didn't he retire?

Sure hope not Sir, I really like this more recent one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pOA63dgy-Y

Oh ya and just so as my post pertains to the topic of thread, I didn't get a chance
to see The Who so I have no clue how they sounded.

Okay, I actually thought he retired. I don't think he's done a new album since River of Dreams.
He did sing with Paul at the Citi Field opening, which was cool.

I just saw him last May with Elton and he was GREAT. His voice is still incredible. He'd be awesome at the SB. He's a lively entertainer too, great laid-back stage presence.

[stevew2]

1:33 in...lipping it...we caught it at the house too....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUl3INCPsc4

Your right he does it later to, thats why it got better later on

[brywool]

Didn't he retire?

Sure hope not Sir, I really like this more recent one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pOA63dgy-Y

Oh ya and just so as my post pertains to the topic of thread, I didn't get a chance
to see The Who so I have no clue how they sounded.

Okay, I actually thought he retired. I don't think he's done a new album since River of Dreams.
He did sing with Paul at the Citi Field opening, which was cool.

I just saw him last May with Elton and he was GREAT. His voice is still incredible. He'd be awesome at the SB. He's a lively entertainer too, great laid-back stage presence.

I saw him when ROD came out. I went with some friends. Wasn't a big Billy Joel fan at that time. All the Uptown Girl and Piano Man stuff I just didn't dig. But after that show, I got into him for a while. Nylon Curtain and StormFront are great records. Wow. I also liked some of the heavier stuff on River. No Man's Land is a really good one. He was great in concert even if I did have to sit through "Still Rock n Roll to Me" (ugh).

[kgdjpubs]

1:33 in...lipping it...we caught it at the house too....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUl3INCPsc4

better quality version at 2:46
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La5uLfOVKaw

I thought I saw something somewhere while watching it, but wasn't going to say anything. No surprise though. Most people do it for big televised events.

[Rockindeano]

I was really pulling for the Who because they are a rock act and they are "our" kind of band. But fuck, they shit the bed. It wasn't live Lights1961, there were some live mics and Daltrey occasionally sang into one, but he definitely had a crutch...and that's ok, but like I believe Brywool said, looks like they didn't take it too seriously, and Pete in particular didn't have it down. Just like Journey last year, and in particular Pineda, he didn't take the Beer Garden seriously and he too shit the bed while the rest of the band sounded their usual good self. Speaking of the Beer Garden, did anyone see Steve Winwood yesterday? Good fucking lord, dude was awful.

PS= I went back and viewed the last 4 or SB Halftime shows and they were all better than the Who was. Not picking on Roger or Pete as they are classic players but I agree with Bwool- rehearse and take it seriously Pete! Bruce took it very serious, as did U2 and Prince. Those were probably the best shows ever arguably.