Thinking about starting a band? Dont! LOL

[G.I.Jim]

Jim is currently PMing me with blackmail type information that God knows what he hopes to achieve. Real Sopranos style stuff. You may have MR fooled with what a nice guy you are Jimbut me and anyone who's ever worked with you knows what a scumbag piece of shit you are.

Now this is getting good. I just started some popcorn.

I'll get the Coke.

Day late and a dollar short (as usual B!).

Oh don't worry B, as long as GI Jim is around, there will always be those "popcorn moments!" He's got to keep me in check, you know! I guess until he makes another public declaration that he's leaving the board again...oh wait, but Jim wouldnt do that, LOL!

I did do that... ONCE. How many times did you? 3, 4, 5? THAT shit is hilarious right there!!!

[StephenWJ]

Dean my beef has nothing to do with Journey. I'm not even much of a fan of Journey's anymore. My beef is with someone badmouthing them for lipping, when his band does the same thing on stage. Stephen sings, but how much of it makes it to the speakers? Jeremey says if I have a problem with that, to take it up with the guys mixing the show. Pot... Kettle?

I'm sure you recall how many times I came in here and defended Jeremey against you. You used to throw him under the bus, right along with Ed, Nolippin, Beshad, and many others. I'd sit right here defending him endlessly. Funny how things change.

No offence dude but you were involved in Frontiers on some level LONG before anyone knew anything about me other than the ARfm guys and my band Waking Jonah.

Don't use your issue with Jeremey or Frontiers or anything else to question MY level of singing because frankly, you know absolutely nothing about what I have done, or do in this band. I had a career before Frontiers and continue to now. This isn't my first gig and you shouldn't act like you know anything about it.

Stick to talking about the people you think you know, NOT me.

Thanks

[G.I.Jim]

Jim is currently PMing me with blackmail type information that God knows what he hopes to achieve. Real Sopranos style stuff. You may have MR fooled with what a nice guy you are Jimbut me and anyone who's ever worked with you knows what a scumbag piece of shit you are.

Now this is getting good. I just started some popcorn.

I'll get the Coke.

Day late and a dollar short (as usual B!).

Dude , I've followed this thread all day. Just not saying much cause I like you both.
You are a little PMS lately tho. I blame it on the surgery and painkillers .

Maybe I just got sand in my crack!

[Rockindeano]

Who needs Perry, Schon and Cain? We got Hunsicker, WJ and Government Issue right here! This is awesome. I live for these MR brawls.

[StephenWJ]

Who needs Perry, Schon and Cain? We got Hunsicker, WJ and Government Issue right here! This is awesome. I live for these MR brawls.

High five!

[stevew2]

Who needs Perry, Schon and Cain? We got Hunsicker, WJ and Government Issue right here! This is awesome. I live for these MR brawls.

You had some pretty good brawls yourself, did Phyliss whip your ass to many times? I know Robbie G problablly sucked you dry

[yulog]

Jim is currently PMing me with blackmail type information that God knows what he hopes to achieve. Real Sopranos style stuff. You may have MR fooled with what a nice guy you are Jimbut me and anyone who's ever worked with you knows what a scumbag piece of shit you are.

Now this is getting good. I just started some popcorn.

I'll get the Coke.

Day late and a dollar short (as usual B!).

Oh don't worry B, as long as GI Jim is around, there will always be those "popcorn moments!" He's got to keep me in check, you know! I guess until he makes another public declaration that he's leaving the board again...oh wait, but Jim wouldnt do that, LOL!

I did do that... ONCE. How many times did you? 3, 4, 5? THAT shit is hilarious right there!!!

Good point Jim, but if the original band used piped in vocals their entire careers who cares that an unknown tribute bar band is doing the same thing. They are just staying true to the way the original band did it, it just makes for a better show.

[G.I.Jim]

Jim is currently PMing me with blackmail type information that God knows what he hopes to achieve. Real Sopranos style stuff. You may have MR fooled with what a nice guy you are Jimbut me and anyone who's ever worked with you knows what a scumbag piece of shit you are.

Now this is getting good. I just started some popcorn.

I'll get the Coke.

Day late and a dollar short (as usual B!).

Oh don't worry B, as long as GI Jim is around, there will always be those "popcorn moments!" He's got to keep me in check, you know! I guess until he makes another public declaration that he's leaving the board again...oh wait, but Jim wouldnt do that, LOL!

I did do that... ONCE. How many times did you? 3, 4, 5? THAT shit is hilarious right there!!!

Good point Jim, but if the original band used piped in vocals their entire careers who cares that an unknown tribute bar band is doing the same thing. They are just staying true to the way the original band did it, it just makes for a better show.

I don't have a problem with it, and I DO think it makes them sound better. Just don't like the singer bad mouthing another band for doing the exact same thing his does.

[Jeremey]

I don't have a problem with it, and I DO think it makes them sound better. Just don't like the singer bad mouthing another band for doing the exact same thing his does.

Are you really that thick headed? Does ANYONE NOT know I was talking about Augeri lip synching? Think about it slowly, Jim. Do you REALLY want people on this board to think that you are so stupid you thought I was commenting on Journey's use of backing vocals....Think....about........it....

[yulog]

Jim is currently PMing me with blackmail type information that God knows what he hopes to achieve. Real Sopranos style stuff. You may have MR fooled with what a nice guy you are Jimbut me and anyone who's ever worked with you knows what a scumbag piece of shit you are.

Now this is getting good. I just started some popcorn.

I'll get the Coke.

Day late and a dollar short (as usual B!).

Oh don't worry B, as long as GI Jim is around, there will always be those "popcorn moments!" He's got to keep me in check, you know! I guess until he makes another public declaration that he's leaving the board again...oh wait, but Jim wouldnt do that, LOL!

I did do that... ONCE. How many times did you? 3, 4, 5? THAT shit is hilarious right there!!!

Good point Jim, but if the original band used piped in vocals their entire careers who cares that an unknown tribute bar band is doing the same thing. They are just staying true to the way the original band did it, it just makes for a better show.

I don't have a problem with it, and I DO think it makes them sound better. Just don't like the singer bad mouthing another band for doing the exact same thing his does.

If he bad mouths journey for doing it and he does the same, plenty of people will see it as hypocritical.Its the same as when he just tried to make fun of you for quitting MR and then coming back.Everyone knows Jeremey is guilty of the same thing.

[G.I.Jim]

I don't have a problem with it, and I DO think it makes them sound better. Just don't like the singer bad mouthing another band for doing the exact same thing his does.

Are you really that thick headed? Does ANYONE NOT know I was talking about Augeri lip synching? Think about it slowly, Jim. Do you REALLY want people on this board to think that you are so stupid you thought I was commenting on Journey's use of backing vocals....Think....about........it....

I've got all night Jeremey. You accused them of lipping. They did it. I accused you're band of doing the same thing they did. Lipping (other than Stephen), and you're denying it. Unless you are using Jim Gober again, I haven't seen any of these guys sing. Greg? The drummer? And even if they are singing, nothing is coming out of those speakers but you. Does it sound bad? Nope, it sounds good! Just don't bad mouth Journey for doing the same thing you're doing. You use pre-recorded keys too. Even Journey doesn't do that ( other than on Chain Reaction).

[Jeremey]

Yulog, everyone knows I haven't badmouthed Journey for using recorded BGV. And my little stab at Jim was not because he DID the whole "oh I'm leaving thread," but because in years prior he ragged on me about it, then turned around and did the same thing. Jim is all about making sure the record is straight, so I'm just trying to make sure all sides are represented here, it is after all the INTERNET and we want to make sure these message board brawls are 100% following all the proper debating procedures!

[Jeremey]

Jim, why would you want to spend all nite debating something I've admitted to (and am proud of) many times before?

Isn't the real debate here whether I badmouthed Journey for using recorded BGV?

Cause if you find me saying that, Jim, I'll pay you $500. And if you can't, how bout shutting the fuck up?

[G.I.Jim]

Yulog, everyone knows I haven't badmouthed Journey for using recorded BGV. And my little stab at Jim was not because he DID the whole "oh I'm leaving thread," but because in years prior he ragged on me about it, then turned around and did the same thing. Jim is all about making sure the record is straight, so I'm just trying to make sure all sides are represented here, it is after all the INTERNET and we want to make sure these message board brawls are 100% following all the proper debating procedures!

Wrong again. I posted a "Bye" thread. All I said in it was "Peace out, It's been nice knowing some of you here". Unlike you who went into a tantrum about "oh petty me, everybody hates me" thread. And that was the 2nd or third time you did that.

[Jeremey]

Yulog, everyone knows I haven't badmouthed Journey for using recorded BGV. And my little stab at Jim was not because he DID the whole "oh I'm leaving thread," but because in years prior he ragged on me about it, then turned around and did the same thing. Jim is all about making sure the record is straight, so I'm just trying to make sure all sides are represented here, it is after all the INTERNET and we want to make sure these message board brawls are 100% following all the proper debating procedures!

Wrong again. I posted a "Bye" thread. All I said in it was "Peace out, It's been nice knowing some of you here". Unlike you who went into a tantrum about "oh petty me, everybody hates me" thread. And that was the 2nd or third time you did that.

So it was okay for you, but not for me. And we can ignore all the threads you started about how "someone was getting an ass kicking and I'm not saying whooooo!" threads right before your cool and collected "bye" thread. Cause everyone knows you are not into that kind of attention seeking, right?

[yulog]

Yulog, everyone knows I haven't badmouthed Journey for using recorded BGV. And my little stab at Jim was not because he DID the whole "oh I'm leaving thread," but because in years prior he ragged on me about it, then turned around and did the same thing. Jim is all about making sure the record is straight, so I'm just trying to make sure all sides are represented here, it is after all the INTERNET and we want to make sure these message board brawls are 100% following all the proper debating procedures!

Honestly ,neither one of you should use that against each other because your both guilty of doing it here(and it sure does look silly, all we need is phylis to come in here and all 3 of you can accuse each other of doing it ), and i didnt say you badmouthed journey(i said If you badmouthed journey).I wont even go into what i think of anyone who comes on here and says i'm leaving and then comes back

[Jeremey]

Yulog, everyone knows I haven't badmouthed Journey for using recorded BGV. And my little stab at Jim was not because he DID the whole "oh I'm leaving thread," but because in years prior he ragged on me about it, then turned around and did the same thing. Jim is all about making sure the record is straight, so I'm just trying to make sure all sides are represented here, it is after all the INTERNET and we want to make sure these message board brawls are 100% following all the proper debating procedures!

Honestly ,neither one of you should use that against each other because your both guilty of doing it here(and it sure does look silly, all we need is phylis to come in here and all 3 of you can accuse each other of doing it ), and i didnt say you badmouthed journey(i said If you badmouthed journey).I wont even go into what i think of anyone who comes on here and says i'm leaving and then comes back

Well, I agree, and I also stand by my explanation of why I brought that up, LOL...I didn't start any of this, but I sure did have enough of Jihad Jim's ceaseless attacks on me and my character when I never pick on him at all.

[Maui Tom]

some of these flare ups here are fun to read...this one isn't...pretty awful....

[stevew2]

This thread has done wonders for my name. Good promotion Gayshed

[G.I.Jim]

Jim, why would you want to spend all nite debating something I've admitted to (and am proud of) many times before?

Isn't the real debate here whether I badmouthed Journey for using recorded BGV?

Cause if you find me saying that, Jim, I'll pay you $500. And if you can't, how bout shutting the fuck up?

Yes that is the real debate, because it is not what I said. I said you took a dig at Journey by saying that you're vocals are "live" unlike Journey's. You DID take a dig at them. Yet your band gets up there (some of them anyway) and lips. Am I wrong?

[G.I.Jim]

Jim, I've stated numerous time on here that I hate the fact that Journey uses pre-recorded backing vocals! If they were going to use some, they should at LEAST try out my backing tracks.

That'll be $500 please!

[Jeremey]

Jim, why would you want to spend all nite debating something I've admitted to (and am proud of) many times before?

Isn't the real debate here whether I badmouthed Journey for using recorded BGV?

Cause if you find me saying that, Jim, I'll pay you $500. And if you can't, how bout shutting the fuck up?

Yes that is the real debate, because it is not what I said. I said you took a dig at Journey by saying that you're vocals are "live" unlike Journey's. You DID take a dig at them. Yet your band gets up there (some of them anyway) and lips. Am I wrong?

Jesus Christ, Einstein, all anyone has to do is page back 2 times and read what was said to know you're full of shit. In fact this whole thing started because you had to poke your nose in and say I was lying about our start time! Thus causing Steve to miss 30 min of our show. Can you worry a bit more about your life now and not be so goddamned obsessed with mine and my bands? Can you do that? I'll make you a deal, if you keep your nose out of my fucking business, I'll continue what I've been doing for the past 5 years and ignore your inane babble as well... Deal?

[G.I.Jim]

Jim, why would you want to spend all nite debating something I've admitted to (and am proud of) many times before?

Isn't the real debate here whether I badmouthed Journey for using recorded BGV?

Cause if you find me saying that, Jim, I'll pay you $500. And if you can't, how bout shutting the fuck up?

Yes that is the real debate, because it is not what I said. I said you took a dig at Journey by saying that you're vocals are "live" unlike Journey's. You DID take a dig at them. Yet your band gets up there (some of them anyway) and lips. Am I wrong?

Jesus Christ, Einstein, all anyone has to do is page back 2 times and read what was said to know you're full of shit. In fact this whole thing started because you had to poke your nose in and say I was lying about our start time! Thus causing Steve to miss 30 min of our show. Can you worry a bit more about your life now and not be so goddamned obsessed with mine and my bands? Can you do that? I'll make you a deal, if you keep your nose out of my fucking business, I'll continue what I've been doing for the past 5 years and ignore your inane babble as well... Deal?

No deal prick. And I tried to save Steve some money, because when I played with the band, my friends would show up and sit there for an hour or an hour and a half buying beer, bored, waiting for the show's to start. I think i saw you guys 3 times before I played with you, and it was the same every time. Why would I think all of a sudden that it changed. And thank you for the compliment.

[parfait]

Jim, why would you want to spend all nite debating something I've admitted to (and am proud of) many times before?

Isn't the real debate here whether I badmouthed Journey for using recorded BGV?

Cause if you find me saying that, Jim, I'll pay you $500. And if you can't, how bout shutting the fuck up?

Yes that is the real debate, because it is not what I said. I said you took a dig at Journey by saying that you're vocals are "live" unlike Journey's. You DID take a dig at them. Yet your band gets up there (some of them anyway) and lips. Am I wrong?

Jesus Christ, Einstein, all anyone has to do is page back 2 times and read what was said to know you're full of shit. In fact this whole thing started because you had to poke your nose in and say I was lying about our start time! Thus causing Steve to miss 30 min of our show. Can you worry a bit more about your life now and not be so goddamned obsessed with mine and my bands? Can you do that? I'll make you a deal, if you keep your nose out of my fucking business, I'll continue what I've been doing for the past 5 years and ignore your inane babble as well... Deal?

No deal prick. And I tried to save Steve some money, because when I played with the band, my friends would show up and sit there for an hour or an hour and a half buying beer, bored, waiting for the show's to start. I think i saw you guys 3 times before I played with you, and it was the same every time. Why would I think all of a sudden that it changed. And thank you for the compliment.

This has to be the weakest debate in a long time. Jesus. There's more smileys here than in that creepy Perry photo vag fest downstairs.

[Jeremey]

This has to be the weakest debate in a long time. Jesus. There's more smileys here than in that creepy Perry photo vag fest downstairs.

You do have irony in Europe, right?

[G.I.Jim]

Jim, why would you want to spend all nite debating something I've admitted to (and am proud of) many times before?

Isn't the real debate here whether I badmouthed Journey for using recorded BGV?

Cause if you find me saying that, Jim, I'll pay you $500. And if you can't, how bout shutting the fuck up?

Yes that is the real debate, because it is not what I said. I said you took a dig at Journey by saying that you're vocals are "live" unlike Journey's. You DID take a dig at them. Yet your band gets up there (some of them anyway) and lips. Am I wrong?

Jesus Christ, Einstein, all anyone has to do is page back 2 times and read what was said to know you're full of shit. In fact this whole thing started because you had to poke your nose in and say I was lying about our start time! Thus causing Steve to miss 30 min of our show. Can you worry a bit more about your life now and not be so goddamned obsessed with mine and my bands? Can you do that? I'll make you a deal, if you keep your nose out of my fucking business, I'll continue what I've been doing for the past 5 years and ignore your inane babble as well... Deal?

No deal prick. And I tried to save Steve some money, because when I played with the band, my friends would show up and sit there for an hour or an hour and a half buying beer, bored, waiting for the show's to start. I think i saw you guys 3 times before I played with you, and it was the same every time. Why would I think all of a sudden that it changed. And thank you for the compliment.

This has to be the weakest debate in a long time. Jesus. There's more smileys here than in that creepy Perry photo vag fest downstairs.

Don't you have a white flag you could be waving around right now, as you surrender to your mirror?

[whirlwind]

Jim, why would you want to spend all nite debating something I've admitted to (and am proud of) many times before?

Isn't the real debate here whether I badmouthed Journey for using recorded BGV?

Cause if you find me saying that, Jim, I'll pay you $500. And if you can't, how bout shutting the fuck up?

Yes that is the real debate, because it is not what I said. I said you took a dig at Journey by saying that you're vocals are "live" unlike Journey's. You DID take a dig at them. Yet your band gets up there (some of them anyway) and lips. Am I wrong?

Jeremey shouldn't even respond to you. You obviously can't be trusted and appear to have a vindictive streak a mile long. Don't be such a sore loser. You come across as pathetic, imo.

[Behshad]

[G.I.Jim]

Jim, why would you want to spend all nite debating something I've admitted to (and am proud of) many times before?

Isn't the real debate here whether I badmouthed Journey for using recorded BGV?

Cause if you find me saying that, Jim, I'll pay you $500. And if you can't, how bout shutting the fuck up?

Yes that is the real debate, because it is not what I said. I said you took a dig at Journey by saying that you're vocals are "live" unlike Journey's. You DID take a dig at them. Yet your band gets up there (some of them anyway) and lips. Am I wrong?

Jeremey shouldn't even respond to you. You obviously can't be trusted and appear to have a vindictive streak a mile long. Don't be such a sore loser. You come across as pathetic, imo.

2 things... what can't I be trusted about? I haven't lied on here. Also, what have I lost?

[Jeremey]

Okay, final summation for the evening before we can put this to rest...don't try to weasel out of things Jim, all the answers are right here in this pathetic thread.

1) You stuck your nose in where it didn't belong and called me a liar about start times, for some reason based on your experiences with this band 5 years ago when we were playing Buffalo Wild Wings and dance clubs in Atlanta...where the manager on duty would tell us what time to start based on the crowds. You caused Steve to miss a good 25% of our show.

2) I posted that we did start on time, and that it was a venue Journey played in 2005, and that we had actual live vocals. Referring obviously to Tapegate. You then stick your nose in THERE, taking a quote from another board out of context, and twist my words to make it seem like I was speaking ill of Journey, when I stated a very well known fact.

3)You then accuse my band of lip synching and of me being holier than thou and bad mouthing the band I make a living off of, using YouTube videos and crazy theories about what's coming out of the PA.

4) During this time you send me a series of sinister PMs about how you've heard I cheat on my wife on the road, and how you'd sure hate to have that get public, nudge, wink. Unsolicited , mind you, just out of the blue.

5) you spend about 8 hours on a public forum in multiple threads with your goofy emoticons talking about how I'm a dishonest scumbag who for some reason owes you and this forum some bizarre explanation of my life...all because you were mad 5 years ago that you didn't get your checks sent in a timely manner (when I handled the accounting for the band and worked 60 hours a week full time), and you think I lied about writing a song with Journey (yet you go on to describe what sounds exactly like a description of cowriting a song?), and you think I got JSS fired.

Well you, my friend, are a certifiable nut job. I hope someday you can sit back and be proud of all you've exposed and accomplished on this, an internet message board about the band Journey.

Congratulations.