Don't Ask Don't Tell-Good Riddance To The Bigoted Law

[Jana]

[Blow me! And for the record, I think it's the worst decision they could have made. No offense to you Bobby, but it IS going to cause conflicts, and cost American lives.

Your mindset just flabbergasts me. Why the hate for some fellow soldiers because they are gay? Why does this bother you? I don't get it. An openly gay US citizen wants to proudly serve his/her country, and you on the right are worried. Just how in the fuck is it going to cost American lives? Unbelievable how close minded you on the right are. I'll tell you what costs American lives. Poorly planned wars(Bush, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz)...Lying to the United Nations..Bush Administration...no exit strategy...Bush administration. Look in the fucking mirror when discussing American lives. Just how many have been lost due to the three points I just made? Gee, I bet this new law allowing gays to serve will be right up there with these huh? Too much. Are you a homophobe, Jim? Is it a conservative thing? A Southern thing? Seriously, why the hate against gays?

Dude, as someone who once wore the military uniform, how can you possibly be so ignorant to the fact that lives will be lost because of this? I have great, openly gay friends and am not a homophobe, so you can shove that theory right up your ass! Do they allow women in the military to serve on the front lines? No. You know why? Well there are a lot of reasons, but one of them is because if there are relationships going on during conflict, you aren't going to be focused on what the fuck you're supposed to be doing over there. You know what that does? It costs lives!

Not to mention that heterosexual men do not want to shower or share a foxhole with someone who is checking out their package. Would you want to? This is different than someone who just works in an office with others. We're talking about men who trust their lives with each other, shower together, sleep together, etc... for months at a time. The biggest thing our service members have when they're deployed is each other. When you can't trust that the guy next to you isn't going to make the moves on you, it throws trust right out the window.

You know what's going to happen now that this has been signed? Every gay who is in the military is going to come out of the closet, and they're going to cause tension in the ranks. You WILL see some of them acting flamboyantly and it will cause lives. mark my words.

And how the fuck do you turn everything that's said into a Bush debate? For fuck's sake Deano, get over him already!!!

Oh my fucking God! Jim, you claim not to be a homophobe, but every word of that statement proves differently. Are straight guys not going to be able to control themselves now that they KNOW for sure that a fellow soldier is gay? Oh, wait, I know what it is, gay men can't control themselves and they will attack and harass any man in the vicinity.

Fear and ignorance is what you're spewing Jim, not facts. Gay soldiers serve every day, side by side with straight soldiers and most of the straight soldiers already know it.

Please, reflect on what you've stated and get better. And the "flamboyant" remark is the most homophobic statement I've seen from anyone in a very long time.

I feel bad for your gay friends if you speak like that around them.

good points.

[Jeremey]

Don't act like you don't know about who the Orlando Weekly is. What the hell's "The Onion"? Are you saying I'm lying about the person coming into my office? The police were called because of the stink he was raising. He was drunk AND high (self-admitted!) and was wandering in between our cars in the parking lot crying. He refused to leave, and was running out in front of traffic. If you or anyone else here would like to contact any of the 10-15 people that witnessed it, just PM me and I'll gladly get you in touch with them to verify.

Let me know 1 time I've lied to you Jeremey.

No dude, why don't you enlighten us?

I don't know when you've lied to me and I don't fucking care, LOL! I don't think about you at all actually except for when I read this forum and see little swipes u take at me and my band, and even then I keep my mouth shut except for the occasional time I get so fed up with your bullshit.

Im just saying, based on your posting history, it seems very unlikely that what you've just described, a scene straight out of an 80's comedy movie, would have happened and you wouldn't have posted right away about it, because you frequently post many things that happen to you in your life.

[parfait]

What a ridiculous thread. Of course homosexuals should be allowed in the army. There's not even a debate. Preferring dick to pussy isn't a choice - it's genetically decided.

You need to take a step into the 21st century, Jim.

[BobbyinTN]

Thank God it's gone. Congrats to every gay soldier out there. You can now serve your country openly and honestly.

Thanks Obama and democrats and the few republicans who moved us into the 21st Century.

(I hate this laptop I'm having to use, but it's better than nothing)

Thats fine, but i wouldnt want to "bunk" with you doll

Trust me, you're NOTHING I'd ever be interested in.

WOW! The egos on straight men are hilarious.

[parfait]

Thank God it's gone. Congrats to every gay soldier out there. You can now serve your country openly and honestly.

Thanks Obama and democrats and the few republicans who moved us into the 21st Century.

(I hate this laptop I'm having to use, but it's better than nothing)

Thats fine, but i wouldnt want to "bunk" with you doll

Trust me, you're NOTHING I'd ever be interested in.

WOW! The egos on straight men are hilarious.

Don't be a player hater. Stevew2 got game.

[BobbyinTN]

[Blow me! And for the record, I think it's the worst decision they could have made. No offense to you Bobby, but it IS going to cause conflicts, and cost American lives.

Your mindset just flabbergasts me. Why the hate for some fellow soldiers because they are gay? Why does this bother you? I don't get it. An openly gay US citizen wants to proudly serve his/her country, and you on the right are worried. Just how in the fuck is it going to cost American lives? Unbelievable how close minded you on the right are. I'll tell you what costs American lives. Poorly planned wars(Bush, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz)...Lying to the United Nations..Bush Administration...no exit strategy...Bush administration. Look in the fucking mirror when discussing American lives. Just how many have been lost due to the three points I just made? Gee, I bet this new law allowing gays to serve will be right up there with these huh? Too much. Are you a homophobe, Jim? Is it a conservative thing? A Southern thing? Seriously, why the hate against gays?

Dude, as someone who once wore the military uniform, how can you possibly be so ignorant to the fact that lives will be lost because of this? I have great, openly gay friends and am not a homophobe, so you can shove that theory right up your ass! Do they allow women in the military to serve on the front lines? No. You know why? Well there are a lot of reasons, but one of them is because if there are relationships going on during conflict, you aren't going to be focused on what the fuck you're supposed to be doing over there. You know what that does? It costs lives!

Not to mention that heterosexual men do not want to shower or share a foxhole with someone who is checking out their package. Would you want to? This is different than someone who just works in an office with others. We're talking about men who trust their lives with each other, shower together, sleep together, etc... for months at a time. The biggest thing our service members have when they're deployed is each other. When you can't trust that the guy next to you isn't going to make the moves on you, it throws trust right out the window.

You know what's going to happen now that this has been signed? Every gay who is in the military is going to come out of the closet, and they're going to cause tension in the ranks. You WILL see some of them acting flamboyantly and it will cause lives. mark my words.

And how the fuck do you turn everything that's said into a Bush debate? For fuck's sake Deano, get over him already!!!

Oh my fucking God! Jim, you claim not to be a homophobe, but every word of that statement proves differently. Are straight guys not going to be able to control themselves now that they KNOW for sure that a fellow soldier is gay? Oh, wait, I know what it is, gay men can't control themselves and they will attack and harass any man in the vicinity.

Fear and ignorance is what you're spewing Jim, not facts. Gay soldiers serve every day, side by side with straight soldiers and most of the straight soldiers already know it.

Please, reflect on what you've stated and get better. And the "flamboyant" remark is the most homophobic statement I've seen from anyone in a very long time.

I feel bad for your gay friends if you speak like that around them.

good points.

Thanks Jana! And thank you for fighting the good fight.

[BobbyinTN]

Thank God it's gone. Congrats to every gay soldier out there. You can now serve your country openly and honestly.

Thanks Obama and democrats and the few republicans who moved us into the 21st Century.

(I hate this laptop I'm having to use, but it's better than nothing)

Thats fine, but i wouldnt want to "bunk" with you doll

Trust me, you're NOTHING I'd ever be interested in.

WOW! The egos on straight men are hilarious.

Don't be a player hater. Stevew2 got game.

I'm just being truthful.

[G.I.Jim]

Thank God it's gone. Congrats to every gay soldier out there. You can now serve your country openly and honestly.

Thanks Obama and democrats and the few republicans who moved us into the 21st Century.

(I hate this laptop I'm having to use, but it's better than nothing)

Thats fine, but i wouldnt want to "bunk" with you doll

Trust me, you're NOTHING I'd ever be interested in.

WOW! The egos on straight men are hilarious.

Don't be a player hater. Stevew2 got game.

I'm just being Flirty.

See??? Here we go!!!

[parfait]

Thank God it's gone. Congrats to every gay soldier out there. You can now serve your country openly and honestly.

Thanks Obama and democrats and the few republicans who moved us into the 21st Century.

(I hate this laptop I'm having to use, but it's better than nothing)

Thats fine, but i wouldnt want to "bunk" with you doll

Trust me, you're NOTHING I'd ever be interested in.

WOW! The egos on straight men are hilarious.

Don't be a player hater. Stevew2 got game.

I'm just being Flirty.

See??? Here we go!!!

You're almost like a comedian.

Except you're not funny.

[G.I.Jim]

Thank God it's gone. Congrats to every gay soldier out there. You can now serve your country openly and honestly.

Thanks Obama and democrats and the few republicans who moved us into the 21st Century.

(I hate this laptop I'm having to use, but it's better than nothing)

Thats fine, but i wouldnt want to "bunk" with you doll

Trust me, you're NOTHING I'd ever be interested in.

WOW! The egos on straight men are hilarious.

Don't be a player hater. Stevew2 got game.

I'm just being Flirty.

See??? Here we go!!!

You're almost like a comedian.

Except you're not funny.

You're almost like a european except... no, never mind... you DO stink!

[Jeremey]

You're almost like a european except... no, never mind... you DO stink!

LOLLOLOLOLOLOL!

Dude that's funny as shit! You're one funny fucker, dude! Hey, you're just like that guy in all your avatars! Ha ha!

Seriously though...funny shit...

[G.I.Jim]

You're almost like a european except... no, never mind... you DO stink!

LOLLOLOLOLOLOL!

Dude that's funny as shit! You're one funny fucker, dude! Hey, you're just like that guy in all your avatars! Ha ha!

Seriously though...funny shit...

Thanks buddy!

[Rockindeano]

You have to admit....that was fuckin hysterical. Anytime you can break out Euro/smelly smack, it's a home run in my book.

[G.I.Jim]

You have to admit....that was fuckin hysterical. Anytime you can break out Euro/smelly smack, it's a home run in my book.

He just SAID it was funny Dean!

[Jana]

Thank God it's gone. Congrats to every gay soldier out there. You can now serve your country openly and honestly.

Thanks Obama and democrats and the few republicans who moved us into the 21st Century.

(I hate this laptop I'm having to use, but it's better than nothing)

Thats fine, but i wouldnt want to "bunk" with you doll

Trust me, you're NOTHING I'd ever be interested in.

WOW! The egos on straight men are hilarious.

I have a friend who is bisexual and stunning. And she told me once it was a joke, every straight female that knows she's bisexual thinks she looks at them in that way and are offended if she doesn't think of them that way (from an egotistical standpoint). This girl is beyond picky for males and females and probably is only attracted to like two percent of who she meets.

That's like saying a female heterosexual checks every male out and is attracted to all of them. NOT.

[Behshad]

Thank God it's gone. Congrats to every gay soldier out there. You can now serve your country openly and honestly.

Thanks Obama and democrats and the few republicans who moved us into the 21st Century.

(I hate this laptop I'm having to use, but it's better than nothing)

Thats fine, but i wouldnt want to "bunk" with you doll

Trust me, you're NOTHING I'd ever be interested in.

WOW! The egos on straight men are hilarious.

I have a friend who is bisexual and stunning. And she told me once it was a joke, every straight female that knows she's bisexual thinks she looks at them in that way and are offended if she doesn't think of them that way (from an egotistical standpoint). This girl is beyond picky for males and females and probably is only attracted to like two percent of who she meets.

That's like saying a female heterosexual checks every male out and is attracted to all of them. NOT.

You should hook your friend up with Parfait. That way she gets a bf/gf in one pretty package

[stevew2]

Thank God it's gone. Congrats to every gay soldier out there. You can now serve your country openly and honestly.

Thanks Obama and democrats and the few republicans who moved us into the 21st Century.

(I hate this laptop I'm having to use, but it's better than nothing)

Thats fine, but i wouldnt want to "bunk" with you doll

Trust me, you're NOTHING I'd ever be interested in.

WOW! The egos on straight men are hilarious.

Don't be a player hater. Stevew2 got game.

I'm just being truthful.

I have gay guys hitting on me often. I have a small butt,and when I fart it squeaks like a ballon. I bet you like big hairy men with huge sacks

[Jana]

Thank God it's gone. Congrats to every gay soldier out there. You can now serve your country openly and honestly.

Thanks Obama and democrats and the few republicans who moved us into the 21st Century.

(I hate this laptop I'm having to use, but it's better than nothing)

Thats fine, but i wouldnt want to "bunk" with you doll

Trust me, you're NOTHING I'd ever be interested in.

WOW! The egos on straight men are hilarious.

I have a friend who is bisexual and stunning. And she told me once it was a joke, every straight female that knows she's bisexual thinks she looks at them in that way and are offended if she doesn't think of them that way (from an egotistical standpoint). This girl is beyond picky for males and females and probably is only attracted to like two percent of who she meets.

That's like saying a female heterosexual checks every male out and is attracted to all of them. NOT.

You should hook your friend up with Parfait. That way she gets a bf/gf in one pretty package

He is her type, lol.

[Jeremey]

You have to admit....that was fuckin hysterical. Anytime you can break out Euro/smelly smack, it's a home run in my book.

He just SAID it was funny Dean!

It was funny when Dean said it the first 1,000 times, but man, you took that joke and made it your own! Bravo, sir!

[parfait]

Thank God it's gone. Congrats to every gay soldier out there. You can now serve your country openly and honestly.

Thanks Obama and democrats and the few republicans who moved us into the 21st Century.

(I hate this laptop I'm having to use, but it's better than nothing)

Thats fine, but i wouldnt want to "bunk" with you doll

Trust me, you're NOTHING I'd ever be interested in.

WOW! The egos on straight men are hilarious.

I have a friend who is bisexual and stunning. And she told me once it was a joke, every straight female that knows she's bisexual thinks she looks at them in that way and are offended if she doesn't think of them that way (from an egotistical standpoint). This girl is beyond picky for males and females and probably is only attracted to like two percent of who she meets.

That's like saying a female heterosexual checks every male out and is attracted to all of them. NOT.

You should hook your friend up with Parfait. That way she gets a bf/gf in one pretty package

He is her type, lol.

Charming, smart and good looking? Come on. I'm everybody's type!

[Angel]

It seem to me that DADT should apply (or not apply now) to everyone, gay, straight, bisexual, egosexual or otherwise. The point should be that sexuality should not be a factor when considering if a person can serve his or her country. As I said earlier, I think it's a great thing but at the same time it shouldn't give license to people regardless of sexuality, to flaunt their sexual preferences to the point that it interferes with the job.

I once worked with a man that was openly gay, he wore semi-crossdressing type clothes, often wore makeup and flaunted his sexuality. Many people that worked with him were very uncomfortable around him-not because of the way he dressed or the way he looked but the way he constantly went on and on about his sexual preferences-making comments about men that would come in, talking about his dates and his sex life-very openly and very graphically. Finally someone complained and he played the "you're discriminating against me because I'm gay" card and nothing happened to him-he continued in his ways. A few months later one of the women in our department was talking about getting her hair done and just made the comment that she didn't like having her hair done by men-she specifially said "I don't want a fu-fu man working on my hair." The gay man heard it and complained-she ended up being written up, having disciplinary action taken against her, she had to participate in some weird "sensitivity training" class and nearly lost her job. I believe it's situations like this that lead to DADT and while I'm glad it's gone, I can also see why it may have come about in the first place.

[Behshad]

Thank God it's gone. Congrats to every gay soldier out there. You can now serve your country openly and honestly.

Thanks Obama and democrats and the few republicans who moved us into the 21st Century.

(I hate this laptop I'm having to use, but it's better than nothing)

Thats fine, but i wouldnt want to "bunk" with you doll

Trust me, you're NOTHING I'd ever be interested in.

WOW! The egos on straight men are hilarious.

I have a friend who is bisexual and stunning. And she told me once it was a joke, every straight female that knows she's bisexual thinks she looks at them in that way and are offended if she doesn't think of them that way (from an egotistical standpoint). This girl is beyond picky for males and females and probably is only attracted to like two percent of who she meets.

That's like saying a female heterosexual checks every male out and is attracted to all of them. NOT.

You should hook your friend up with Parfait. That way she gets a bf/gf in one pretty package

He is her type, lol.

So the 2% category you're talking about is people who enjoy Golden Showers ?!

[Angel]

[Charming, smart and good looking? Come on. I'm everybody's type!

Urinating in a girls mouth? Does that fall under charming, smart or good looking???

[BobbyinTN]

It seem to me that DADT should apply (or not apply now) to everyone, gay, straight, bisexual, egosexual or otherwise. The point should be that sexuality should not be a factor when considering if a person can serve his or her country. As I said earlier, I think it's a great thing but at the same time it shouldn't give license to people regardless of sexuality, to flaunt their sexual preferences to the point that it interferes with the job.

I once worked with a man that was openly gay, he wore semi-crossdressing type clothes, often wore makeup and flaunted his sexuality. Many people that worked with him were very uncomfortable around him-not because of the way he dressed or the way he looked but the way he constantly went on and on about his sexual preferences-making comments about men that would come in, talking about his dates and his sex life-very openly and very graphically. Finally someone complained and he played the "you're discriminating against me because I'm gay" card and nothing happened to him-he continued in his ways. A few months later one of the women in our department was talking about getting her hair done and just made the comment that she didn't like having her hair done by men-she specifially said "I don't want a fu-fu man working on my hair." The gay man heard it and complained-she ended up being written up, having disciplinary action taken against her, she had to participate in some weird "sensitivity training" class and nearly lost her job. I believe it's situations like this that lead to DADT and while I'm glad it's gone, I can also see why it may have come about in the first place.

Sounds like every person I've ever encountered at work places. Everyone talks about their "sexuality" even when it's just mentioning a wife or a husband.

I think the problem is with the people who have the problem, not with the gay guy you're talking about.

Not everyone feels a need to conform and thank God they don't. I'd rather be around someone who is themselves rather than someone others want them to be.

[Jeremey]

I just wonder how many people in front line combat are actually worried the guy next to them may want to suck their dick while they are under fire. Apparently this is something that concerns Jim, even though he's worked at a desk in the National Guard for 20 years. I hope for the sake of our armed forces that his concerns are not valid.

[S2M]

I just wonder how many people in front line combat are actually worried the guy next to them may want to suck their dick while they are under fire. Apparently this is something that concerns Jim, even though he's worked at a desk in the National Guard for 20 years. I hope for the sake of our armed forces that his concerns are not valid.

I wonder who was under the desk?

[G.I.Jim]

I just wonder how many people in front line combat are actually worried the guy next to them may want to suck their dick while they are under fire. Apparently this is something that concerns Jim, even though he's worked at a desk in the National Guard for 20 years. I hope for the sake of our armed forces that his concerns are not valid.

Thanks for your service Jeremey. And know what you're talking about before you comment on my service. I haven't always worked behind a desk. I've been Infantry, Supply and done engineering as well, in the jungles of Honduras. I've also been in the regular Army for years prior to the last 14 years which have been served full-time in the Army National Guard. I do have over 19 1/2 years of total service, so at least you're close to being right on something.

[Jeremey]

I just wonder how many people in front line combat are actually worried the guy next to them may want to suck their dick while they are under fire. Apparently this is something that concerns Jim, even though he's worked at a desk in the National Guard for 20 years. I hope for the sake of our armed forces that his concerns are not valid.

Thanks for your service Jeremey. And know what you're talking about before you comment on my service. I haven't always worked behind a desk. I've been Infantry, Supply and done engineering as well, in the jungles of Honduras. I've also been in the regular Army for years prior to the last 14 years which have been served full-time in the Army National Guard. I do have over 19 1/2 years of total service, so at least you're close to being right on something.

So tell me then, Jim, under combat, in foxholes, did you ever worry that the guy next to you was going to try fucking you in the ass? I didn't know you had that combat experience, so excuse my ignorance. Oh, and I didn't serve in the military! But then again I don't worry about everyone around me trying to teabag me in my sleep either.

[Behshad]

I just wonder how many people in front line combat are actually worried the guy next to them may want to suck their dick while they are under fire. Apparently this is something that concerns Jim, even though he's worked at a desk in the National Guard for 20 years. I hope for the sake of our armed forces that his concerns are not valid.

Thanks for your service Jeremey. And know what you're talking about before you comment on my service. I haven't always worked behind a desk. I've been Infantry, Supply and done engineering as well, in the jungles of Honduras. I've also been in the regular Army for years prior to the last 14 years which have been served full-time in the Army National Guard. I do have over 19 1/2 years of total service, so at least you're close to being right on something.

Ah now I remember ! Those three weeks you were "gone fishing" and didn't post here.

[G.I.Jim]

I just wonder how many people in front line combat are actually worried the guy next to them may want to suck their dick while they are under fire. Apparently this is something that concerns Jim, even though he's worked at a desk in the National Guard for 20 years. I hope for the sake of our armed forces that his concerns are not valid.

Thanks for your service Jeremey. And know what you're talking about before you comment on my service. I haven't always worked behind a desk. I've been Infantry, Supply and done engineering as well, in the jungles of Honduras. I've also been in the regular Army for years prior to the last 14 years which have been served full-time in the Army National Guard. I do have over 19 1/2 years of total service, so at least you're close to being right on something.

So tell me then, Jim, under combat, in foxholes, did you ever worry that the guy next to you was going to try fucking you in the ass? I didn't know you had that combat experience, so excuse my ignorance. Oh, and I didn't serve in the military! But then again I don't worry about everyone around me trying to teabag me in my sleep either.

I've never served in combat. I've only trained for it. I've spent many weeks in tents with fellow soldiers, and I can tell you the reason there were no problems is because they didn't flaunt to us that they were gay. You've spent enough nights in hotel rooms that I'm sure you've been tea bagged PLENTY of times!