Fuckin' Charlie Sheen

[steveo777]

They were interviewing him on TV this morning and he was sitting there smoking a cigarette! You don't see people smoking
on TV anymore and it was really strange to see.

[Saint John]

They were interviewing him on TV this morning and he was sitting there smoking a cigarette! You don't see people smoking
on TV anymore and it was really strange to see.

I think he's definitely conscious of everything he was doing wrong, and that he has such a strong personality and need for "action" that he's now getting "high" off of this standoff with CBS and the producer of the show. And I think he's gonna win this standoff. There are some people that need AA/rehab, counseling, reinforcement and all of these other "steps" involved with a lifestyle change, and there are some people that can just quit cold turkey on their own. I bartended for almost 7 years and I've seen both methods of lifestyle change. Both have about the same success rate, in my experience. Charlie seems to have that strong, cold turkey ability and he's taunting everyone now. He might succeed and he might fail, but it's gonna be on his terms, come hell or high water. And I respect that. Because, faced with the exact same scenario, I'd be an asshole just like he's being.

[bluejeangirl76]

NBC interviewer Jeff Rossen appeared startled when Sheen said he wanted to be paid $3 million an episode to return to the show. He's reportedly paid $1.8 million an episode now, one of the highest-paid actors on television.

"You want a raise?" Rossen asked.

Replied Sheen: "Yeah, look what they put me through."

This is like watching a train wreck happen. You think it's crashed and done, but no, that car just keeps on going, rolling over, smashing into stuff, making more damage...

This guy has officially lost his mind. They have to shut down the show BECAUSE OF him and he wants them to pay him (what would equal roughly) 72 million dollars a year? YGTBMFKM.

[slucero]

Charlle is rapidly burning through his 15 minutes...

[brandonx76]

When he does that thing where he says "There's me winning ", it's so freaking bizzare

He did it on the radio interview and on the Today interview, I bet he'll do it on 20/20 as well...

[bluejeangirl76]

When he does that thing where he says "There's me winning ", it's so freaking bizzare

He did it on the radio interview and on the Today interview, I bet he'll do it on 20/20 as well...

He's going to be on 20/20? Oh now this I have to see.

[Saint John]

They have to shut down the show BECAUSE OF him

There's absolutely no reason they had to suspend the show. That was their choice and it was a dumb one.

and he wants them to pay him (what would equal roughly) 72 million dollars a year? YGTBMFKM.

The choice seems simple to me. Pay him and continue to have the #1 show, while making a killing every week, or don't pay him and watch that time slot go down the drain ... along with tens of millions ( probably more) annually. Charlie has everything in his favor right now ... and that crazy motherfucker knows it.

[DrFU]

There are some people that need AA/rehab, counseling, reinforcement and all of these other "steps" involved with a lifestyle change, and there are some people that can just quit cold turkey on their own. I bartended for almost 7 years and I've seen both methods of lifestyle change. Both have about the same success rate, in my experience. :

If one is a heavy user and has been over a long period, quitting cold can seriously mess you up -- physiologically, not just psychologically.

His paranoia and delusions of grandeur make great headlines, but the dude seems like he's in real trouble ... this is way more than just supreme assholiness.

[steveo777]

There are some people that need AA/rehab, counseling, reinforcement and all of these other "steps" involved with a lifestyle change, and there are some people that can just quit cold turkey on their own. I bartended for almost 7 years and I've seen both methods of lifestyle change. Both have about the same success rate, in my experience. :

If one is a heavy user and has been over a long period, quitting cold can seriously mess you up -- physiologically, not just psychologically.

His paranoia and delusions of grandeur make great headlines, but the dude seems like he's in real trouble ... this is way more than just supreme assholiness.

One of the components of his illness is grandiosity and he's got it aplenty.

[brandonx76]

Charlie recent antics reminds me of the scene in "Boogie Nights" - where Mark Wahlberg's character is getting upset with Jack (played Burt Reynolds) because, after a massive cocaine binge, his 'dick' is hard, and he wants to 'fuck'...

[bluejeangirl76]

They have to shut down the show BECAUSE OF him

There's absolutely no reason they had to suspend the show. That was their choice and it was a dumb one.

How can they run the show effectively when one of the stars is behaving so erratically? What he did, essentially, is mouth off in front of the world about the people who pay his salary. In what other profession would this be tolerated?

Put this into a context that would apply to an employee at a "regular" job. Say you or I were on a tear like he's been on and we were told by our employer to get help or else, because it's affecting our office and co-workers (granted that is probably not "exactly" what he was told, I believe I read that it was more like "We will suspend production for now while you go get better", but in terms of average joes and their jobs it would be "we will suspend YOU until you go get better")... he chose not to get the help he was told to get to keep his job... in the scenario of an average joe, no they wouldn't shut down the whole office because of you, you would just be out on your ass for saying what he said... but a tv show isn't a "normal" work scenario, so it ends up costing everyone.

Were they supposed to just sit back and let him keep taking it further? They offered him an opportunity to go get himself better and he walked out and said no. At what point does it become the right thing to do to fire an employee who behaves that way, saying the things he said about the producers/executives? And unfortunately in this situation, firing the star means stopping the show, at least for now.

We also don't necessarily know the whole history of this or what it was like on-set... this could have been something that's been going on longer than the stories that became public - we heard about it starting back with that story the weekend he disappeared and the show couldn't find him.

[bluejeangirl76]

If one is a heavy user and has been over a long period, quitting cold can seriously mess you up -- physiologically, not just psychologically.

His paranoia and delusions of grandeur make great headlines, but the dude seems like he's in real trouble ... this is way more than just supreme assholiness.

He really does. He is making less and less sense every day, and his behavior is becoming visibly more and more strange.

[Saint John]

Is the guy in trouble? Perhaps so, but *I* don't think he is. I see a guy having a tough time "coming down" from the fast lane lifestyle, but his antics have been greatly exaggerated. He'll settle in, make CBS cave to his demands and come out of this whole thing with more money and more leverage. Or he'll lave and have networks lining up for his next show. He's acting crazy, but he's not.

[brywool]

You know- the people that work with him say "he's well-liked on the set". "He's never late and is professional". "Always hits his marks". Obviously, that is correct as the show is a huge success. He's obviously doing SOMETHING right. What he does OFF screen is his business, isn't it? Personally, I think that guy's a wacknut, but if he shows up, does a decent job... what's the problem with what he does in his personal life?
They kind of knew what he was going into it as Sheen's always been Sheen. The whole thing's pretty stupid. You can bet the ratings for the show will skyrocket.

What everyone should do to save face is just say "Hey, this was a publicity stunt that CBS came up with, we all just played along". It probably is anyway.

[bluejeangirl76]

What he does OFF screen is his business, isn't it? Personally, I think that guy's a wacknut, but if he shows up, does a decent job... what's the problem with what he does in his personal life?

agreed... but he went and mouthed off to the world talking smack about the show execs... that's what caused the current drama...

That would be like you or I going off about our boss and then asking for a raise.

What everyone should do to save face is just say "Hey, this was a publicity stunt that CBS came up with, we all just played along". It probably is anyway.

That may just very well be the case.

[Saint John]

That would be like you or I going off about our boss and then asking for a raise.

And if we were bringing in numbers like Charlie Sheen I'm guessing that the answer would be something like: "Ok, you got it ... but you could lay off of me in the fucking media?!?"

[hoagiepete]

Doesn't make sense when you're the highest rated show and the highest paid actor on tv. No one could orchestrate all that he has done. Even if they could, why?

Bottom line...he's just another fucked up rich, son of an actor that has no sense of reality. He has talent, but is obviously fucked up.

He either had his heart broken REALLY bad or has not known or is incapable of knowing love at all. My unscientific theory of this mess.

I like his work so hope he comes out of it. Hard to feel sorry for him when he has brought it on himself...with booze, drugs, and beautiful women that do nasty things.

[brandonx76]

Charlie's publicist just quit....

I was under the impression he didn't have one at all...do you have a source that cites this?

[Michigan Girl]

Charlie Sheen: I want a raise

NEW YORK — Charlie Sheen says he wants a raise to come back to the CBS show "Two and a Half Men."

The troubled star appeared on dueling morning show interviews Monday to continue an attack on CBS and producers of his hit sitcom for shutting down the show because of his off-set behavior. Both ABC's "Good Morning America" and NBC's "Today" show featured him in their first half hours.

NBC interviewer Jeff Rossen appeared startled when Sheen said he wanted to be paid $3 million an episode to return to the show. He's reportedly paid $1.8 million an episode now, one of the highest-paid actors on television.

"You want a raise?" Rossen asked.

Replied Sheen: "Yeah, look what they put me through."





he'll probably get it...

This would be hysterical if it weren't serious ...great idea for an episode!!
Has Charlie ever worked in 2.5 Men ...written a jingle?!?!

[Michigan Girl]

When Mike Walters asked Charlie about the medical explanation, CS responded, "I was asleep when that statement went out."

Sheen added, "I respect Stan ... he was doing the best he could in that moment ... had I confirmed with him, I probably would have come up with something better. "


This guy cracks me up!!

[StevePerryHair]

The thing no one thinks about is that the guy is a father. He has kids and the lifestyle he's wrapped up in right now, is not exactly tops for child rearing. People can make jokes, wish they were him, and justify his behavior. It IS his life and his business. But he's making it public, probably not even always aware of how he looks. I feel bad for his kids only.

[Saint John]

I'm guessing his publicist, Stan Rosenfield, quit because of the Jewish wisecracks aimed at Lorre.

[brandonx76]

I'm guessing his publicist, Stan Rosenfield, quit because of the Jewish wisecracks aimed at Lorre.

Was it anti-semitic for Charlie to call out Chuck's real name? I mean, Charlie's real name is Carlos Estevez - what point was he trying to make??

[brywool]

I'm guessing his publicist, Stan Rosenfield, quit because of the Jewish wisecracks aimed at Lorre.

WHAT wise-cracks? He used the guy's real name? I guess that's anti-jew? Dang, why don't they go after Lorre for being embarrassed to use his real name?

[Michigan Girl]

The thing no one thinks about is that the guy is a father. He has kids and the lifestyle he's wrapped up in right now, is not exactly tops for child rearing. People can make jokes, wish they were him, and justify his behavior. It IS his life and his business. But he's making it public, probably not even always aware of how he looks. I feel bad for his kids only.

I've thought about it!!
His parents have raised his oldest daughter and they just married her off! She turned out well, it seems, in spite of
her daddy!!
The girls have Denise and Denise's dad ...hopefully that stupid~ass reality show didn't ruin them, but
Denise seems like a great mom ...and I think she's a great ex, as well ...for the childrens sake
anyway!!

I don't know much about the new ex~wife, but I feel certain she has to be great too!!
Charlie seems to be drawn to nurturing women, the kind
that take care of him until their children start acting more mature than him and then they're done!!

He has to help himself!!

[StevePerryHair]

I'm guessing his publicist, Stan Rosenfield, quit because of the Jewish wisecracks aimed at Lorre.

Was it anti-semitic for Charlie to call out Chuck's real name? I mean, Charlie's real name is Carlos Estevez - what point was he trying to make??

I believe he called him "Hymie" too..considered anti-semetic maybe?

[Saint John]

I'm guessing his publicist, Stan Rosenfield, quit because of the Jewish wisecracks aimed at Lorre.

WHAT wise-cracks? He used the guy's real name? I guess that's anti-jew? Dang, why don't they go after Lorre for being embarrassed to use his real name?

This explains it best. But, for the record, I don't care what he called him. I'm on Charlie's side!

Update: When I heard the audio last night at TMZ, I heard “Hymie,” not “Chaim”, but on a second listen, commenters are right in that he said (phonetically) “Hime”; “Chaim” is pronounced a little differently. At any rate, Chuck Lorre’s birth name is Charles Levine, not Chaim Levine, and he very clearly goes by Chuck. At any rate, a man who changed his name from Carlos Irwin Estevez has very little room in sneering at someone else’s choice to use a different name for professional reasons.

[bluejeangirl76]

I feel bad for his kids only.

Speaking of which...

Charlie explained that he “hopes” his 5 kids ask him about all of the drug use one day … so he can fill them in on all of the “epic” stories.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/02/28/charlie-s ... -half-men/

Um.

Those poor kids. Especially the ones that are school age with this going on. Wow.

[Marabelle]

Oy!

[RedWingFan]

I feel bad for his kids only.

Speaking of which...

Charlie explained that he “hopes” his 5 kids ask him about all of the drug use one day … so he can fill them in on all of the “epic” stories.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/02/28/charlie-s ... -half-men/

Um.

Those poor kids. Especially the ones that are school age with this going on. Wow.

What a complete waste of a person Sheen is. No talent hack lucked out with a tv series and he pissed that away.
Just OD and get it over with please.