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Postby verslibre » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:12 am

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S2M wrote:^^^^^^^^^^^ nerdy comic con types alert!!! Bill Shatner's ears are ringing.... :lol:


Might want to have a look around. You're posting on a Journey msg board instead of going balls deep inside a real live woman. It's a fairly safe bet you're uncool.


Oh, he's balls deep inside something, alright. Just not a woman. :lol:
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Postby YoungJRNY » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:26 am

Gideon wrote:Travis, the visual that's springing to mind about you belies what I've actually heard: Aren't you linebacker-sized and sporting a shitton of tattoos? :lol: :lol: :lol:


I also sport the salt and pepper biker goatee and braid it into two like something out of Little Nickie. Haha, just kidding. I'm hardcore football, weight training, you name it but as much as I love competitive situations out of nature that involves throwing around your body and colliding into other people, the opposite side of me is actually very gentle & straight up geek :lol:
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Postby Gideon » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:29 am

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Gideon wrote:Travis, the visual that's springing to mind about you belies what I've actually heard: Aren't you linebacker-sized and sporting a shitton of tattoos? :lol: :lol: :lol:


I also sport the salt and pepper biker goatee and braid it into two like something out of Little Nickie. Haha, just kidding. I'm hardcore football, weight training, you name it but as much as I love competitive situations out of nature that involves throwing around your body and colliding into other people, the opposite side of me is actually very gentle & straight up geek :lol:


Your woman must be a real badass, then. :shock: :lol: :P
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Postby YoungJRNY » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:30 am

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Gideon wrote:Travis, the visual that's springing to mind about you belies what I've actually heard: Aren't you linebacker-sized and sporting a shitton of tattoos? :lol: :lol: :lol:


I also sport the salt and pepper biker goatee and braid it into two like something out of Little Nickie. Haha, just kidding. I'm hardcore football, weight training, you name it but as much as I love competitive situations out of nature that involves throwing around your body and colliding into other people, the opposite side of me is actually very gentle & straight up geek :lol:


Your woman must be a real badass, then. :shock: :lol: :P


She keeps me in line, lets put it that way 8) :lol:
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Postby Rip Rokken » Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:34 pm

Supes has been spotted at the Kent farm!

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Postby RedWingFan » Thu Aug 25, 2011 1:14 am

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/50949

No belt, no red trunks.

Not diggin' it, looks like a one piece sleeper kids wear.
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Postby conversationpc » Thu Aug 25, 2011 1:24 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
S2M wrote:^^^^^^^^^^^ nerdy comic con types alert!!! Bill Shatner's ears are ringing.... :lol:


Might want to have a look around. You're posting on a Journey msg board instead of going balls deep inside a real live woman. It's a fairly safe bet you're uncool.


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Postby Rip Rokken » Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:18 am

RedWingFan wrote:http://www.aintitcool.com/node/50949

No belt, no red trunks.

Not diggin' it, looks like a one piece sleeper kids wear.


There does appear to be something belt-like in the photos - at a minimum, there is an oval-shape indicating the 'buckle'. Far off shot, but looks like he's filling out the suit well, and I dig the larger insignia. That was definitely a step back in the right direction.
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Postby Pelata » Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:40 am

Costume changes are inevitable...Batman in the movies since '89 has never worn the grey tights, blue cape, blue trunks thing...X-Men weren't wearing blue/yellow tights...etc
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Postby RedWingFan » Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:57 am

Pelata wrote:Costume changes are inevitable...Batman in the movies since '89 has never worn the grey tights, blue cape, blue trunks thing...X-Men weren't wearing blue/yellow tights...etc

Agreed. But were either as iconic as Superman's red and blue, or even Spidey's red and blue? Sony's jacked up this new Spiderman too.
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Postby RedWingFan » Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:00 am

WTF? Why can't people just stay with what worked in the past. You can have the character wear the same suit and still make a good movie. And why the hell would you have a belt buckle with no belt?

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Postby verslibre » Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:22 am

RedWingFan wrote:WTF? Why can't people just stay with what worked in the past. You can have the character wear the same suit and still make a good movie. And why the hell would you have a belt buckle with no belt?

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/51029


"...brings us our first delatiled look..." :lol:

I dunno, looks interesting. The old — nay, ancient — costume needed some kind of update. Direly so. At least this looks an iota more "alien." The original duds scream "1930s/1940s."
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Postby verslibre » Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:26 am

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Pelata wrote:Costume changes are inevitable...Batman in the movies since '89 has never worn the grey tights, blue cape, blue trunks thing...X-Men weren't wearing blue/yellow tights...etc

Agreed. But were either as iconic as Superman's red and blue, or even Spidey's red and blue? Sony's jacked up this new Spiderman too.


Updating the suit doesn't mean you have to ditch the hues.

And whaddyamean is Batman's suit "as iconic"? Put down the White-Out. The "Bat-shadow" — long shadowy cape, tall Bat ears, the emblem, the overall silhouette — is arguably more iconic than Supes or Spidey.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:33 am

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Pelata wrote:Costume changes are inevitable...Batman in the movies since '89 has never worn the grey tights, blue cape, blue trunks thing...X-Men weren't wearing blue/yellow tights...etc

Agreed. But were either as iconic as Superman's red and blue, or even Spidey's red and blue? Sony's jacked up this new Spiderman too.


Updating the suit doesn't mean you have to ditch the hues.

And whaddyamean is Batman's suit "as iconic"? Put down the White-Out. The "Bat-shadow" — long shadowy cape, tall Bat ears, the emblem, the overall silhouette — is arguably more iconic than Supes or Spidey.


How can it be more iconic than Supes when there's multiple versions (and also colors) and def different variations of the Bat-suit? There was only really one concept of the Superman costume and it doesn't get more iconic than that.
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Postby verslibre » Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:02 am

Don't like the silver-on-black, long-haired look?

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Postby YoungJRNY » Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:14 am

verslibre wrote:Don't like the silver-on-black, long-haired look?

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The Return of Superman look. It was pretty cool, always had a soft-spot for the mullet Superman but he was back in his iconic suite by the end of the arc, haha.
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Postby verslibre » Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:23 am

Like I said...out with the new, in with the old. Everybody seems to have this handicap when it comes to the big goofy red "S" on the chest. Were it up to me, I'd modify it or use the Kryptonian hope symbol in lieu of the plain ol' alphabet soup letter. At least they've made some changes with the new costume, which I find interesting.

And I must say, were it up to me, a "new" Superman movie would be adapted from Mark Waid's re-interpretation of the mythos in Superman: Birthright. It actually replaced John Byrne's The Man Of Steel as canon, but after the whole Infinite Crisis deal or whatever, it got swept under the rug. Waid's redefinition of Supes was ace.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:51 am

verslibre wrote:Like I said...out with the new, in with the old. Everybody seems to have this handicap when it comes to the big goofy red "S" on the chest. Were it up to me, I'd modify it or use the Kryptonian hope symbol in lieu of the plain ol' alphabet soup letter. At least they've made some changes with the new costume, which I find interesting.

And I must say, were it up to me, a "new" Superman movie would be adapted from Mark Waid's re-interpretation of the mythos in Superman: Birthright. It actually replaced John Byrne's The Man Of Steel as canon, but after the whole Infinite Crisis deal or whatever, it got swept under the rug. Waid's redefinition of Supes was ace.


I was so-so on Birthright. Honeslty? I think I'm just burned out on Origin stories. Not only are there countless number of Elseworld stories out there when it comes to origin, but there's like a million Superman origin's as well with minor changes here and there. Birthright was one of them. I didn't like the "Attack of the hologram robots" thing or some other aspects. Superman, just last year, came out with another origin for continuity, calls Secret Origins. Now, already within a year later from Secret Origin, the New 52 is here, all character like Superman starting at #1 and a reboot.

The new Superman movie, MAN OF STEEL, is rumored to actually be a mix of Birthright (young Clack Kent exploring who he is, traveling, etc.) and a recent arc in the comics so I'll have to re-read the Birthright story to see if it grows on me.

Here's a couple new looks at the costume for the new movie. At first, I was "so-so" on the red trunks, but I absolutley fell in love with the new design. It's just so new and Cavill looks very dominating in it. Glad after all these years that the Super-crew can change the Superman look up but at the same time, still scream Superman.

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Postby verslibre » Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:10 am

YoungJRNY wrote:I think I'm just burned out on Origin stories. Not only are there countless number of Elseworld stories out there when it comes to origin, but there's like a million Superman origin's as well with minor changes here and there. Birthright was one of them. I didn't like the "Attack of the hologram robots" thing or some other aspects. Superman, just last year, came out with another origin for continuity, calls Secret Origins. Now, already within a year later from Secret Origin, the New 52 is here, all character like Superman starting at #1 and a reboot.


Yup, origin overload sucks, and that's why I hate that Warner wants Batman rebooted AGAIN because Nolan's take is "too dark" and "too realistic." Can't they just make a fuckin' Justice League movie without going through all that shit? Everybody's familiar with Batman now. Do Wonder Woman, and then introduce Green Arrow, Black Canary (gotta have another hottie) and Martian Manhunter in the movie. GL's got a movie. It's not the best, but it's a movie.

And how much of The Man Of Steel is going to be an origin? They're pretending Returns doesn't exist, right?

YoungJRNY wrote:The new Superman movie, MAN OF STEEL, is rumored to actually be a mix of Birthright (young Clack Kent exploring who he is, traveling, etc.) and a recent arc in the comics


Oh, yeah? Then fuckin' cool. FINALLY...something different to be expected from a Superman film. I haven't read anything by way of Waid about Birthright being sourced for the movie.

YoungJRNY wrote:Here's a couple new looks at the costume for the new movie. At first, I was "so-so" on the red trunks, but I absolutley fell in love with the new design. It's just so new and Cavill looks very dominating in it. Glad after all these years that the Super-crew can change the Superman look up but at the same time, still scream Superman.


What red trunks? I only see blue 'cept the red "S" and the cape. IF his ass puts on red underwear over that shit, I won't see the movie.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:12 am

What red trunks? I only see blue 'cept the red "S" and the cape. IF his ass puts on red underwear over that shit, I won't see the movie.

Haha, my bad, I typed too fast. I meant "no" red trunks. It was inevitable though, I'm ecstatic Snyder made the Super-costume work without the trunks. I think it's going to look amazing on the big screen.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:16 am

Oh, yeah? Then fuckin' cool. FINALLY...something different to be expected from a Superman film. I haven't read anything by way of Waid about Birthright being sourced for the movie.


Here's some links to the rumors. Most Supes fans are concivinced the plot could follow the lines of Birthright.

http://theepicgeek.com/movies/superman- ... storyline/
http://screenrant.com/superman-man-of-s ... dy-111245/
http://www.movies.com/movie-news/man-st ... right/3517

Mark Waid speaks about the possibility as well:

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/ ... s/?a=23571

And how much of The Man Of Steel is going to be an origin? They're pretending Returns doesn't exist, right?


I'm sure a good portion could boil more from Krypton than anything since Jor-EL will be played by Russell Crowe so I'm sure there will be more digging into Krypton than ever before. Correct about Superman Returns, it never existed. That's the Donner-era. It's now the Nolanverse and a completely new take on a Superman movie.
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Postby verslibre » Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:15 am

Seriously, Birthright introduced cool stuff — helps make Supes a lot less vanilla (thanks, Wiki):

In this series, Clark has the power to see the "aura" that surrounds all living things and fades away at the moment of death, something not shown in the Man of Steel mini-series. Clark can literally "see" when a person or animal dies, an experience that he finds profoundly disturbing. Because of this, Clark refuses to take a life, making him a vegetarian. This was influenced by a passage in Elliot S! Maggin's novel Miracle Monday. This "Soul Vision" created controversy among some segments of fandom, and as of now, its status in continuity has yet to be explored. However, in other comics he informs both Lex Luthor (in Lex Luthor: Man of Steel) and Superboy that he can see their souls.


By comparison to other origin retellings, Waid wanted some differences. His Superman is not infallible, as Waid argues that it is not Superman but Clark Kent that readers should relate to. Doing this made Waid avoid a "Clark-is-dull" trap as showing a Clark who gets chewed by the boss, whose dry cleaning gets lost, who longs to connect and be accepted, help make the character a touchstone. Another difference was having Africa in the origin which, as Waid has it, helps establish Kal-El/Clark as a citizen of the world, laying important ground and making him a journalist and not a typist.


Among alterations to Superman's power spectrum, Superman's enhanced vision was strengthened, capable of detecting x-rays (hence his ability to see through walls), as well as "seeing" the transmissions and detection radii of satellites, enabling him to fly between and around their fields of vision to travel incognito. He has been able to see radio waves as early as the 1980s, as he traced his enemy the Toyman's radio broadcast in Alan Moore's Superman: Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow? two-part story. This is primarily a case of showing how Superman deals with today's ever advancing communications technology.
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Postby verslibre » Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:20 am

YoungJRNY wrote:
What red trunks? I only see blue 'cept the red "S" and the cape. IF his ass puts on red underwear over that shit, I won't see the movie.

Haha, my bad, I typed too fast. I meant "no" red trunks. It was inevitable though, I'm ecstatic Snyder made the Super-costume work without the trunks. I think it's going to look amazing on the big screen.


I still think the dark suit with the Kryptonian emblem and shoulder-length hair would work. But at least they nixed the red trunks. I like the design around the wrists/torso/back/whatever. Different.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:11 pm

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What red trunks? I only see blue 'cept the red "S" and the cape. IF his ass puts on red underwear over that shit, I won't see the movie.

Haha, my bad, I typed too fast. I meant "no" red trunks. It was inevitable though, I'm ecstatic Snyder made the Super-costume work without the trunks. I think it's going to look amazing on the big screen.


I still think the dark suit with the Kryptonian emblem and shoulder-length hair would work. But at least they nixed the red trunks. I like the design around the wrists/torso/back/whatever. Different.


Snyder incorporated many aspects and past contributions to all styles of the Superman costume over time. The \S/ shape kind of reminds me of the symbol in Superman #9 and then a mixture of Alan Moores Superman:

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The design around the wrists is actually a tribute to the Golden Age and Action Comics #1 Superman.

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Notice the design of the boots that look similar to the new suite around the body.

And of course, the trunk-less Superman for the new re-design and reboot of the comics:

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Pretty cool that he's using all elements from different era's to the new reboot film franchise as well.
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Postby Rip Rokken » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:35 am

New shots of Russell Crowe as JOR EL!!!

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Taking a smoke break - the real reason behind Krypton's extinction? :)

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Postby YoungJRNY » Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:15 pm

Jor-EL must of flicked that cigarette-bud into the extremely intense , scorching & ever-so changing shifts of instability of Krypton's underground core that threatened Planet Krypton's humanity. Now, we all know how Krypton exploded. 8)
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Postby squirt1 » Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:50 pm

After 10 yrs of Smallville, it should be Tom Welling.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:02 pm

squirt1 wrote:After 10 yrs of Smallville, it should be Tom Welling.


Smaville was all JACKED UP. Many Superman fans hate Smallville. It was very backwards to the Superman continuity & story. Most of the plot and episodes acted like Superman meets Jersey Shore & Twilight.

10 years of nothing but random characters out of place and 10 years of Tom Welling as a young kid/Clark Kent over-did his welcome.

Plus, like I said, that would make NO sense for Welling to be Superman when "The Man Of Steel" is set under a different circumstance than we've ever seen before. The new flick is supposed to seperate itself from anything we've seen for a reason, including the bumbling Smallville and its weirdness.

Having Welling as Superman means that the entire fanbase would have had to be be familiar and follow "Smallville" for its entire 10 year run. Impossible since most fans like myself never watched a single episode. That would be disaster. This movie wouldn't be called "Man of Steel." It would be called Smallville: The Movie. :shock: No thank you.
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