If your pet dies.

[Behshad]

Wow,
you guys totally gangbanged poor Rick. I think he made a great point and I totally agree with him.

I'm more sad about the 29000+ children that have died in Africa the last 90 days

[Saint John]

Wow,
you guys totally gangbanged poor Rick. I think he made a great point and I totally agree with him.

I did, for the most, too.

I'm more sad about the 29000+ children that have died in Africa the last 90 days

You lying bastard!

[Behshad]

Wow,
you guys totally gangbanged poor Rick. I think he made a great point and I totally agree with him.

I did, for the most, too.

I'm more sad about the 29000+ children that have died in Africa the last 90 days

You lying bastard!

OK you caught me, the last 93 days .

[Rick]

They're like 25 bucks at the pet store.

No disrespect to any pet lovers, but I just don't get it. Sorry Scary.

I see people on my friends list on Facebook that absolutely flood the page with "This dog will be euthanized at some certain time if someone doesn't adopt it" and so on.

I look at these posts and am completely baffled. How in hell can you put this much energy into worrying about what some dog's fate is going to be when there are people in the world that need help. Beats the hell out of me.

Of all of the people who post on here, I didn't expect this from you. You're usually one of the first to stand up for others, not kick someone when they are down and in pain. Just because you "don't get it" and don't understand why someone would love their pet so much is no excuse.

Until we had a dog of our own, my dad was old school and didn't understand it either - how someone could love their pet as a family member and would be willing to pay $1500 to save it. There is no question now that he would. Until you really look at a pet as an individual with its own personality who loves you unconditionally, you probably won't understand it. And yes, it is worth the long hours I would have to work to save $1500 if it meant saving my beloved dog's life. She is irreplaceable.

As for how people can be so concerned for animals when there are humans who need help - just because someone is trying to help animals does not mean they do not also care about and help humans. Humans have always been in need and suffering somewhere, so the idea that we cannot help animals until every human is squared away and taken care of is ridiculous. Perhaps if you are so concerned about the fate of humans, it might have behooved you to be the person who posted a thread about Somalia and found some way to help those people, instead of a thread belittling another person's pain and insulting others over something you "just don't get".

We have a dog, two cats, two parakeets and a fish in this 850 square foot apartment. I assure you, we be family.

I'm not trying to hurt Scary Girl or make light of her loss, I think she's a top notch person. I hope she gets another one and that will make her feel a lot better. I don't care if she starts a thread or two on here about it either, but the chick on Facebook that floods page after page with shelter animals is a bit much.

[StevePerryHair]

They're like 25 bucks at the pet store.

No disrespect to any pet lovers, but I just don't get it. Sorry Scary.

I see people on my friends list on Facebook that absolutely flood the page with "This dog will be euthanized at some certain time if someone doesn't adopt it" and so on.

I look at these posts and am completely baffled. How in hell can you put this much energy into worrying about what some dog's fate is going to be when there are people in the world that need help. Beats the hell out of me.

Of all of the people who post on here, I didn't expect this from you. You're usually one of the first to stand up for others, not kick someone when they are down and in pain. Just because you "don't get it" and don't understand why someone would love their pet so much is no excuse.

Until we had a dog of our own, my dad was old school and didn't understand it either - how someone could love their pet as a family member and would be willing to pay $1500 to save it. There is no question now that he would. Until you really look at a pet as an individual with its own personality who loves you unconditionally, you probably won't understand it. And yes, it is worth the long hours I would have to work to save $1500 if it meant saving my beloved dog's life. She is irreplaceable.

As for how people can be so concerned for animals when there are humans who need help - just because someone is trying to help animals does not mean they do not also care about and help humans. Humans have always been in need and suffering somewhere, so the idea that we cannot help animals until every human is squared away and taken care of is ridiculous. Perhaps if you are so concerned about the fate of humans, it might have behooved you to be the person who posted a thread about Somalia and found some way to help those people, instead of a thread belittling another person's pain and insulting others over something you "just don't get".

We have a dog, two cats, two parakeets and a fish in this 850 square foot apartment. I assure you, we be family.

I'm not trying to hurt Scary Girl or make light of her loss, I think she's a top notch person. I hope she gets another one and that will make her feel a lot better. I don't care if she starts a thread or two on here about it either, but the chick on Facebook that floods page after page with shelter animals is a bit much.

My son wants a parakeet so bad.... I have no clue why! I am against it, but he just keeps pleading his case for one! He swears they aren't noisy birds... is this true? Or is he trying to make them sound like the perfect pet? We have no pets!

[DrFU]

These "hierarchy of tragedy" debates make me grind my teeth.

Plenty of shit, slime, and suffering to go around ... pick something that moves you and try to make it better ...

[Behshad]

These "hierarchy of tragedy" debates make me grind my teeth.

Plenty of shit, slime, and suffering to go around ... pick something that moves you and try to make it better ...

Agreed. Such as this :


http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/08/11/so ... ?hpt=hp_c1


I dont hate animals. I also understand those of you who talk about attachement to your pets and the sadness you feel once the pet is gone. But in reality it is much easier to replace your brown dog, than lets say your child.

[Deb]

LOL! At first I thought... WTH BB? Why would ya just clip out Paul. Didn't see the spider at first! Good one.

[KenTheDude]

These "hierarchy of tragedy" debates make me grind my teeth.

Plenty of shit, slime, and suffering to go around ... pick something that moves you and try to make it better ...

Well said, Linda! Pretty much sums it all up.

[Melissa]

I love the "I thought you were a nice person" kind of comments, like Rick is no longer a nice person due to his opinions I too like cats and pets, but Rick's point was pretty obvious, and he even said as much, it wasn't meant to be mean to anyone.

Deb I'm LMAO at B's sig too And when compared to yours and you see how much length he took off, it's even funnier!

[Rick]

They're like 25 bucks at the pet store.

No disrespect to any pet lovers, but I just don't get it. Sorry Scary.

I see people on my friends list on Facebook that absolutely flood the page with "This dog will be euthanized at some certain time if someone doesn't adopt it" and so on.

I look at these posts and am completely baffled. How in hell can you put this much energy into worrying about what some dog's fate is going to be when there are people in the world that need help. Beats the hell out of me.

Of all of the people who post on here, I didn't expect this from you. You're usually one of the first to stand up for others, not kick someone when they are down and in pain. Just because you "don't get it" and don't understand why someone would love their pet so much is no excuse.

Until we had a dog of our own, my dad was old school and didn't understand it either - how someone could love their pet as a family member and would be willing to pay $1500 to save it. There is no question now that he would. Until you really look at a pet as an individual with its own personality who loves you unconditionally, you probably won't understand it. And yes, it is worth the long hours I would have to work to save $1500 if it meant saving my beloved dog's life. She is irreplaceable.

As for how people can be so concerned for animals when there are humans who need help - just because someone is trying to help animals does not mean they do not also care about and help humans. Humans have always been in need and suffering somewhere, so the idea that we cannot help animals until every human is squared away and taken care of is ridiculous. Perhaps if you are so concerned about the fate of humans, it might have behooved you to be the person who posted a thread about Somalia and found some way to help those people, instead of a thread belittling another person's pain and insulting others over something you "just don't get".

We have a dog, two cats, two parakeets and a fish in this 850 square foot apartment. I assure you, we be family.

I'm not trying to hurt Scary Girl or make light of her loss, I think she's a top notch person. I hope she gets another one and that will make her feel a lot better. I don't care if she starts a thread or two on here about it either, but the chick on Facebook that floods page after page with shelter animals is a bit much.

My son wants a parakeet so bad.... I have no clue why! I am against it, but he just keeps pleading his case for one! He swears they aren't noisy birds... is this true? Or is he trying to make them sound like the perfect pet? We have no pets!

We have two of them, and now and then one of them starts chewing the others ass about something. But most of the time, they're pretty quiet. I'm not sure how noisy one would be on it's own.

[CatEyes]

Sympathy and compassion are not only to the recipients, but also to the givers of these feelings.

To be able to identify and exhibit these feelings are important to human development.

The people who fear them, scare me.

Cat

[scarygirl]

The 25,000 posts about Steve Perry, can he or can he not sing, the state of present Journey, and polls about who is hot and who is not isn't exactly inspiring visions of world peace and feed the world either. If you wanna do something, do something! I help out in my little part of the world ( I don't do things for show. You can't say that for Brangelinas of the world), but I don't fly it all over these threads. Just because I post a total of three threads (one while Mya was still alive, vtw) about Mya it is assumed that I don't care about the world at large or people? A couple months back someone spouted a similar sentiment at a prayer group. I mentioned my love for animals and a guy made a comment about about a cat that a roommate had of his once. His roomate didn't take care of it. Bottom line it needed a vet BADLY and wound up dying a slow PAINFUL death. I asked why didn't you take it to the vet? He said it wasn't his cat or something to that effect, plus he was a college student and didn't have the money. The poor kitty dropped dead at his feet. What did he do? Threw it in the dumpster. I said wow. He then made teh comment about caring more for human suffering.. Ugh okay... .... Now granted this is a really nice guy. I think now he woudl do things a lot differently. Still it really irks me that peopel think just because I don't have children that I could less about human beings. You don't have enough informatiion to even make that asssessment. Sorry... I just can't let this one go. Whether it said specifically or not that is what I got from the thread.

[Michigan Girl]

Absolutely agree w/FU, noone else controls our hearts ...

but according to Ladma ..."B" and Rick are correct!!
http://ladma.blogspot.com/2008/01/hiera ... agedy.html
Hierarchy of Tragedy
Not every tragic event is front page material. News editors often have to prioritise the deaths that they cover, and place them in their newspaper or news programme accordingly. Should you ever become the editor of your own news publication or production company, print out the following chart and tape it your desk or wall. Consult it whenever you need to know where to place that difficult story.
Of course, even if you don’t work in the media, the chart can be a useful way to find out how much you should be grieving for any given tragedy.
Hierarchy of Tragedy --------->Importance of Death
One (Good Looking) Child
Two British People
Ten Europeans
A hundred Chinese people
Five Hundred “Third World” people
Cute animals
Ugly animals
Fish

Who are these Ladma?!? There are no Americans on this list, good looking or otherwise ...

[Don]

Wow,
you guys totally gangbanged poor Rick. I think he made a great point and I totally agree with him.

I'm more sad about the 29000+ children that have died in Africa the last 90 days

Don't be, they create anywhere from 60,000 to 80,000 new ones every day. Besides, who else is god going to get to work on his big plantation in the sky?

[Behshad]

Wow,
you guys totally gangbanged poor Rick. I think he made a great point and I totally agree with him.

I'm more sad about the 29000+ children that have died in Africa the last 90 days

Don't be, they create anywhere from 60,000 to 80,000 new ones every day. Besides, who else is god going to get to work on his big plantation in the sky?

And they create 10 times more than that in the animal kingdom. You lose again.

[Don]

Wow,
you guys totally gangbanged poor Rick. I think he made a great point and I totally agree with him.

I'm more sad about the 29000+ children that have died in Africa the last 90 days

Don't be, they create anywhere from 60,000 to 80,000 new ones every day. Besides, who else is god going to get to work on his big plantation in the sky?

And they create 10 times more than that in the animal kingdom. You lose again.

Why would I lose, I wasn't the one crying about my cat.

[Deb]

Wow,
you guys totally gangbanged poor Rick. I think he made a great point and I totally agree with him.

I'm more sad about the 29000+ children that have died in Africa the last 90 days

Don't be, they create anywhere from 60,000 to 80,000 new ones every day. Besides, who else is god going to get to work on his big plantation in the sky?

Really?! That's a lot of fornicating going on. Guess it's something to do to keep your mind off starving to death.

[Behshad]

Wow,
you guys totally gangbanged poor Rick. I think he made a great point and I totally agree with him.

I'm more sad about the 29000+ children that have died in Africa the last 90 days

Don't be, they create anywhere from 60,000 to 80,000 new ones every day. Besides, who else is god going to get to work on his big plantation in the sky?

And they create 10 times more than that in the animal kingdom. You lose again.

Why would I lose, I wasn't the one crying about my cat.

But you are the one who basically implied that human life is dime a dozen

[Don]

Wow,
you guys totally gangbanged poor Rick. I think he made a great point and I totally agree with him.

I'm more sad about the 29000+ children that have died in Africa the last 90 days

Don't be, they create anywhere from 60,000 to 80,000 new ones every day. Besides, who else is god going to get to work on his big plantation in the sky?

And they create 10 times more than that in the animal kingdom. You lose again.

Why would I lose, I wasn't the one crying about my cat.

But you are the one who basically implied that human life is dime a dozen

It is, in a sense. When you have an over abundance, you cut back on production. In nature, a natural culling of the herd occurs or we do it artificially ourselves. In a place where there is no industry, no food substance there will inevitably be checks and balances in keeping the population manageable, just like in the animal kingdom. Instead of sending hunters out to bring down the numbers, we do the opposite when it comes to humans and just leave that overpopulated area to fend for itself and it usually lowers the numbers on its own every few years.

[Behshad]

Wow,
you guys totally gangbanged poor Rick. I think he made a great point and I totally agree with him.

I'm more sad about the 29000+ children that have died in Africa the last 90 days

Don't be, they create anywhere from 60,000 to 80,000 new ones every day. Besides, who else is god going to get to work on his big plantation in the sky?

And they create 10 times more than that in the animal kingdom. You lose again.

Why would I lose, I wasn't the one crying about my cat.

But you are the one who basically implied that human life is dime a dozen

It is, in a sense. When you have an over abundance, you cut back on production. In nature, a natural culling of the herd occurs or we do it artificially ourselves. In a place where there is no industry, no food substance there will inevitably be checks and balances in keeping the population manageable, just like in the animal kingdom. Instead of sending hunters out to bring down the numbers, we do the opposite when it comes to humans and just leave that overpopulated area to fend for itself and it usually lowers the numbers on its own every few years.

So we have the money to make sure that animals dont go hungry and stay protected, yet kids starving.

[Rick]

Wow,
you guys totally gangbanged poor Rick. I think he made a great point and I totally agree with him.

I'm more sad about the 29000+ children that have died in Africa the last 90 days

Don't be, they create anywhere from 60,000 to 80,000 new ones every day. Besides, who else is god going to get to work on his big plantation in the sky?

And they create 10 times more than that in the animal kingdom. You lose again.

Why would I lose, I wasn't the one crying about my cat.

But you are the one who basically implied that human life is dime a dozen

It is, in a sense. When you have an over abundance, you cut back on production. In nature, a natural culling of the herd occurs or we do it artificially ourselves. In a place where there is no industry, no food substance there will inevitably be checks and balances in keeping the population manageable, just like in the animal kingdom. Instead of sending hunters out to bring down the numbers, we do the opposite when it comes to humans and just leave that overpopulated area to fend for itself and it usually lowers the numbers on its own every few years.

So we have the money to make sure that animals dont go hungry and stay protected, yet kids starving.

Can't argue with that. I just don't see pouring money down the drain by taking an animal in for an expensive surgery or whatnot. You're going to have to get a new one sooner than later anyway. They don't live that long. We already spend plenty on food for these animals and cat litter.

[verslibre]

Wow,
you guys totally gangbanged poor Rick.

You could say the same for a couple people in the religion thread, but I don't see you speaking for them there.

[verslibre]

So we have the money to make sure that animals dont go hungry and stay protected, yet kids starving.

Nobody is forcing you to do anything.

Curiously, how are your own efforts to do something for hungry disadvantaged children coming along? Or are you just babbling?

[Saint John]

Can't argue with that. I just don't see pouring money down the drain by taking an animal in for an expensive surgery or whatnot. You're going to have to get a new one sooner than later anyway. They don't live that long. We already spend plenty on food for these animals and cat litter.

While I pretty much agree with you, I think it's ultimately up to the owner to decide whether they're "pouring money down the drain." Besides, we do the same every day with welfare recipients, and a good amount of them aren't worth the salt on a dog's nuts.

[Don]

Can't argue with that. I just don't see pouring money down the drain by taking an animal in for an expensive surgery or whatnot. You're going to have to get a new one sooner than later anyway. They don't live that long. We already spend plenty on food for these animals and cat litter.

While I pretty much agree with you, I think it's ultimately up to the owner to decide whether they're "pouring money down the drain." Besides, we do the same every day with welfare recipients, and a good amount of them aren't worth the salt on a dog's nuts.

I'll get a better return on my investment out of a horse over any 'person' that doesn't want to work.

[Behshad]

Wow,
you guys totally gangbanged poor Rick.

You could say the same for a couple people in the religion thread, but I don't see you speaking for them there.

Thats more like an ongoing battle back and forth between two sides. Not one against 100 !

[Behshad]

So we have the money to make sure that animals dont go hungry and stay protected, yet kids starving.

Nobody is forcing you to do anything.

Curiously, how are your own efforts to do something for hungry disadvantaged children coming along? Or are you just babbling?

And nobody is forcing you to respond to me
Not that I need to prove anything to you, but just to take care of your curiousity, I do my fair share to donate and help children. As far as any helps to animals, Im afraid not so much. Any other questions ?

[verslibre]

Wow,
you guys totally gangbanged poor Rick.

You could say the same for a couple people in the religion thread, but I don't see you speaking for them there.

Thats more like an ongoing battle back and forth between two sides. Not one against 100 !

No, it's like 97/3 . . . pretty much the same deal here.

[AR]