Memorex wrote:Agreed that what Rush said reflected poorly on his followers, just as much as what Maher and Moore, and Maddow, Olberman, etc have said.
What they say reflects on nobody. The reactions reflect on those who reacted. The reaction from the conservative media - and the conservatives in this topic - is start pointing the fingers at Maher and 'whoever' else to distract from what Rush said. That makes you all look like stooges, because that is exactly how you are acting.
And I am sorry - Maher said he specifically gave the million dollars to get Obama re-elected. His words. He cannot, by law, give Obama a million dollars. But he explained why he did it - for Obama. Just like the other Vegas dude gave Gingrich all that dough. You don't do that for nothing.
Of course he did. What's the issue here, exactly? He supports Obama over the insanity the Republicans are putting forth. He also said that unfortunately, this is how the system works. Millionaires and billionaires donate to PAC's that support the candidates they want to get elected. So, the prestigious billionaires support the Republicans...so as a common millionaire, he felt compelled to support Obama. That's a bit of a joke, but there is a point there, too. This is how the system works...on the one hand Republicans want corporations to be people and money to equate to speech....On the other, they throw mud when Maher 'speaks' with his money. Hypocrites.
All I can say, from sort of an outsider, is that your feelings about the right and how they follow like sheep are exactly how the right feels about you and the left.
I really don't care if the right feels that way. In fact, I admitted that some probably do act that way. But, the religion of conservatism is evident EVERYWHERE. it is ridiculous how some people stand by these priests, no matter what they do, or say, or act...it is the gospel truth some....and they spread it as such.
Each side thinks the other must be stupid to believe something, and so they must simply be followers.
No, it's more then that. Look at what FF did in this thread. He not only defended Rush, but praised him for saying what he said....and followed the party line of Fluke being a privileged stooge set up by Obama who deserved everything Rush said about her. Look at AR who now repeats the same party line of distraction by turning the debate to be about Maher instead of the absolute hate filled lies that Rush said....and equated one sentence in a comedic monologue to the barrage of stupidity that Rush spewed forth. They are not just 'quoting' somebody, but acting as the party wants them to act.
The issue is that people are not seeing the hypocrisy in their own beliefs or party.
I am not a member of either party and if someone wants to point out hypocrisy in my stated beliefs, then go for it.
And it's caused us to see each other as a bunch of idiots.
People ARE idiots In general, they seek out others who share their beliefs and congregate with them. They make their own 'truth', back each other up and support each other. When stronger personalities come about who can project those same beliefs, people follow them. When people stop questioning the right and wrong of those leaders, then, IMO, it is akin to worship and becomes a scary thing.
THAT is where conservatism is in politics today.
Like it or not, I don't see it happening to Liberals. Olberman and Maddow are small potatoes compared to Limbaugh, Hannity, etc. Michael Moore has a following but is mostly irrelevant, unless he has a new movie to promote. Maher gets critique from the left almost as much as the right....he actually tweetedHe about how advertisers dropping Rush to try to silence him was wrong. He may think Rush is a stupid, fat, dumbfuck...but that doesn't mean he thinks he should be forced off the air for anything he said.
So, there are no preachers with any power on the liberal side of things....no where near as powerful as conservative priests. Not even close.
And man the hatred. It really sucks. I know people that won't watch a movie if someone with a particular political view is in it. They won't sustain a friendship with a person that believes in the other party. It's pretty sad because we have forgotten about the 98% of things that we all agree on.
I agree....but it will NOT change until people see that these priests they are following are more like Hitler and Gerbels and masters of propaganda and instilling hatred, then EITHER W or Obama.
