"Frankenstorm"

[Behshad]

Typical drama, yawn, yawn..... It has been downgraded to a storm. Are you kidding me? I have seen worse during a routine thunderstorm. Looks more like a regular rainstorm to me.

My daughter lives in Norfolk, and she said the same thing.

It is kind of like, okay, they keep talking about the darn CRANE collapse. Really, you don't think we got that the first 1200 times it was reported? Someone wake me when the Wicked Witch of the West shows up, okay?

That's my biggest issue with live news coverage of events like this. On the one hand, you're happy and appreciative of the technology that allows everyone to get real time status reports literally as it happens. On the other hand, every news agency fights to be THE source for info and will sensationalize the slightest detail and put the most ridiculous spin on something so they can say they were the exclusive source for this and that. The sentimentalization of anything and everything - including situations which are literally life and death has created a news media monster that has become agonizing and unreliable.

+1

Yet, they won't cover what happened in Benghazi, to the extent it needs to be covered, to let the American people know that they have been shammed by Obama.

Oh fuck yourself. They're covering a major catastrophe as its approaching our country and its already killed more people than Benghazi. You want live coverage from the past from something that can't be undone , instead of live coverage of what's happening and updates and warning to try to save more people?
The only reason YOU really want more info about Benghazi is cause you hate Obama. Shame on you and thousands like you who are always hoping for the failure of their president , you pathetic piece of shit.

[scarygirl]

Typical drama, yawn, yawn..... It has been downgraded to a storm. Are you kidding me? I have seen worse during a routine thunderstorm. Looks more like a regular rainstorm to me.

My daughter lives in Norfolk, and she said the same thing.

It is kind of like, okay, they keep talking about the darn CRANE collapse. Really, you don't think we got that the first 1200 times it was reported? Someone wake me when the Wicked Witch of the West shows up, okay?

That's my biggest issue with live news coverage of events like this. On the one hand, you're happy and appreciative of the technology that allows everyone to get real time status reports literally as it happens. On the other hand, every news agency fights to be THE source for info and will sensationalize the slightest detail and put the most ridiculous spin on something so they can say they were the exclusive source for this and that. The sentimentalization of anything and everything - including situations which are literally life and death has created a news media monster that has become agonizing and unreliable.

+1

Yet, they won't cover what happened in Benghazi, to the extent it needs to be covered, to let the American people know that they have been shammed by Obama.

Oh fuck yourself. They're covering a major catastrophe as its approaching our country and its already killed more people than Benghazi. You want live coverage from the past from something that can't be undone , instead of live coverage of what's happening and updates and warning to try to save more people?
The only reason YOU really want more info about Benghazi is cause you hate Obama. Shame on you and thousands like you who are always hoping for the failure of their president , you pathetic piece of shit.

I have to respectfully disagree with you. It isn't that we don't care about the things happening to our own people. Of course it is awful. What is equally awful is the sensationalizing of every single aspect of a disaster at the expense of "real news." Like, if we hyper focus on the "crane" that we won't realize that the "crane" is just a sympton of the utter and complete real time collapse of our country and our values right along with it.

[StevePerryHair]

Typical drama, yawn, yawn..... It has been downgraded to a storm. Are you kidding me? I have seen worse during a routine thunderstorm. Looks more like a regular rainstorm to me.

My daughter lives in Norfolk, and she said the same thing.

It is kind of like, okay, they keep talking about the darn CRANE collapse. Really, you don't think we got that the first 1200 times it was reported? Someone wake me when the Wicked Witch of the West shows up, okay?

That's my biggest issue with live news coverage of events like this. On the one hand, you're happy and appreciative of the technology that allows everyone to get real time status reports literally as it happens. On the other hand, every news agency fights to be THE source for info and will sensationalize the slightest detail and put the most ridiculous spin on something so they can say they were the exclusive source for this and that. The sentimentalization of anything and everything - including situations which are literally life and death has created a news media monster that has become agonizing and unreliable.

+1

Yet, they won't cover what happened in Benghazi, to the extent it needs to be covered, to let the American people know that they have been shammed by Obama.

Oh fuck yourself. They're covering a major catastrophe as its approaching our country and its already killed more people than Benghazi. You want live coverage from the past from something that can't be undone , instead of live coverage of what's happening and updates and warning to try to save more people?
The only reason YOU really want more info about Benghazi is cause you hate Obama. Shame on you and thousands like you who are always hoping for the failure of their president , you pathetic piece of shit.

I have to respectfully disagree with you. It isn't that we don't care about the things happening to our own people. Of course it is awful. What is equally awful is the sensationalizing of every single aspect of a disaster at the expense of "real news." Like, if we hyper focus on the "crane" that we won't realize that the "crane" is just a sympton of the utter and complete real time collapse of our country and our values right along with it.

Everytime we have ever had a hurricane in Florida, this is how the coverage goes. The reporters can't go to the really bad places, truly affected, because its not safe. So they cover things over and over, to fill the time. Until the next day, when the real damage and horror can be covered. These channels are 24 hours of news. They are just filling time. And if you think this storm isn't a bigger deal to millions of people than hearing from the media for the millionth time the same damned political crap we've heard for weeks and months, then that's pretty sad. I have been through hurricanes. I know people who lost almost everything in hurricanes. And I have family and friends, many, in the path of this one. Some people do care to see it.

My question to you is, if its SO boring and you yawn in the face of disaster, why not turn off the tv??

[brandonx76]

Like, if we hyper focus on the "crane" that we won't realize that the "crane" is just a sympton of the utter and complete real time collapse of our country and our values right along with it.

You had me up until this statement (as I happen to think our society gets off on "Disaster Porn")...but let's not correlate things that have no need to be - people see Jesus in toast...

[StevePerryHair]

Like, if we hyper focus on the "crane" that we won't realize that the "crane" is just a sympton of the utter and complete real time collapse of our country and our values right along with it.

You had me up until this statement (as I happen to think our society gets off on "Disaster Porn")...but let's not correlate things that have no need to be - people see Jesus in toast...

This may be the worst disaster in US history, and you are going to label its coverage disaster porn? Seriously? Some of you must have no personal connection to this if you can talk about it so flippantly.

[brandonx76]

Like, if we hyper focus on the "crane" that we won't realize that the "crane" is just a sympton of the utter and complete real time collapse of our country and our values right along with it.

You had me up until this statement (as I happen to think our society gets off on "Disaster Porn")...but let's not correlate things that have no need to be - people see Jesus in toast...

This may be the worst disaster in US history, and you are going to label its coverage disaster porn? Seriously? Some of you must have no personal connection to this if you can talk about it so flippantly.

It borders on it...yes. Downgraded to a storm from what I heard, although 17 people have died. a little levity helps now and then. If you or anyone has family or friends in the affected area (and I do) I certainly don't wish them any ill-fate. But my point is directed at the nature of our media, during disasters, our reaction to it...It's like the pictures being posted about the storm, all of them were fake and everyone was spreading this crap around twitter/email facebook without any regard to accuracy. Remember 9/11? I was getting emails quoting Nostradamous...with quote dates 90 years after his death. Just sayin'

[StevePerryHair]

Like, if we hyper focus on the "crane" that we won't realize that the "crane" is just a sympton of the utter and complete real time collapse of our country and our values right along with it.

You had me up until this statement (as I happen to think our society gets off on "Disaster Porn")...but let's not correlate things that have no need to be - people see Jesus in toast...

This may be the worst disaster in US history, and you are going to label its coverage disaster porn? Seriously? Some of you must have no personal connection to this if you can talk about it so flippantly.

It borders on it...yes. Downgraded to a storm from what I heard, although 17 people have died. a little levity helps now and then. If you or anyone has family or friends in the affected area (and I do) I certainly don't wish them any ill-fate. But my point is directed at the nature of our media, during disasters, our reaction to it...It's like the pictures being posted about the storm, all of them were fake and everyone was spreading this crap around twitter/email facebook without any regard to accuracy. Remember 9/11? I was getting emails quoting Nostradamous...with quote dates 90 years after his death. Just sayin'

I agree people in general go overboard, especially on Facebook. I was irritated by things I saw there more so than the news.

Thing is, if you know anything about hurricanes, it doesn't matter if its downgraded. You can have a tropical depression cause death and destruction, if it sits long enough, and dumps enough rain. Much damage in a hurricane isn't even the wind, its the flooding and water damage. We are seeing the worst today, with the "after flooding" Go tell those people to relax, hey it's been downgraded. The county my husband grew up in, in NJ, had a levee break this morning, and 3 or 4 towns now have areas under water. These are hugely populated towns. This IS a big deal. The subway system in NYC was affected. Ever been to NYC? That is a transportation nightmare. Millions without power. We lost contact with some family, and are waiting to hear something.

EVERY hurricane is downgraded after it makes landfall. But damage from its rotation still continues. And it will with this one too. This wasn't even a strong hurricane to begin with.... imagine what a 5 would do... and yet LOOK at the damage.

And another thing. ABC, NBC, CBS.... and other NATIONAL news stations.... are based in NYC. For them, this is local news. They have every right to cover it. If they didn't, and they were covering politics instead, then I'd be worried about humanity really.

[brandonx76]

I hear you...it is serious, but seeing all these weathermen 'risk their lives', is a little unnecessary too... the thing that caught me was that they shut down the Stock Exchange for 2 days...that's some serious stuff, guaranteed at costing multi-millions of dollars of impact.

Jimmy Kimmel picked this week to do a show in Brooklyn, as far as I know he still went forward with it...On a related note, Jimmy Fallon performed to an audience-less crowd.

[StevePerryHair]

I hear you...it is serious, but seeing all these weathermen 'risk their lives', is a little unnecessary too... the thing that caught me was that they shut down the Stock Exchange for 2 days...that's some serious stuff, guaranteed at costing multi-millions of dollars of impact.

Jimmy Kimmel picked this week to do a show in Brooklyn, as far as I know he still went forward with it...On a related note, Jimmy Fallon performed to an audience-less crowd.

The reporters "in the storm" thing irritates me too!! As they are standing there telling everyone how unsafe it is to be out, pointing out dumb people, there they are, standing in it. It's like they think its noble or something. I think they risk rescue peoples lives by making people think they can go out too, or even if their butts end up needing saved!!

I have seen some ridiculous things here in Florida with it too! Holding up wind gauges.... like we need to know what a wind gust where they are standing! It is ridiculous. I can agree with that!! But I do want to see how people are faring up there. And when the news media starts repeating themselves, I'll turn it off.

[Behshad]

According to Gov. Christie, it wasn't a levee that broke though.

Local and county authorities said a levee had apparently been breached, but Gov. Chris Christie, speaking to CNN, blamed the devastation on a tidal surge roaring up Newark Bay and overwhelming a natural berm.

[StevePerryHair]

According to Gov. Christie, it wasn't a levee that broke though.

Local and county authorities said a levee had apparently been breached, but Gov. Chris Christie, speaking to CNN, blamed the devastation on a tidal surge roaring up Newark Bay and overwhelming a natural berm.

yes, I just saw his speech on CNN. This is what I said would happen yesterday. Surges, cresting waters, and high tides will cause after damage. He also said the Jersey shore is devastated.

[Ehwmatt]

We got walloped pretty good here. The Rock Hall is in danger of flooding. I lost power, my parents lost power, my sister and her husband lost power, and shit generally sucks. Seen plenty of trees through houses here too.

[The Sushi Hunter]

Typical drama, yawn, yawn..... It has been downgraded to a storm. Are you kidding me? I have seen worse during a routine thunderstorm. Looks more like a regular rainstorm to me.

It must me more than typical drama since it's killed at least 17 people now.

[Behshad]

Typical drama, yawn, yawn..... It has been downgraded to a storm. Are you kidding me? I have seen worse during a routine thunderstorm. Looks more like a regular rainstorm to me.

It must me more than typical drama since it's killed at least 17 people now.

Even Sushi gets this ! Now that is scary !

[scarygirl]

For what difference it makes, I think the devastation is awful. I just wish other news stories were given proper notice.

[The Sushi Hunter]

This storm messed up some serious stuff over there. Now 33 reported dead.

[The Sushi Hunter]

This is worse than just flood damage, because it happened with salt water, that's going to screw up so much of the electrical and computer system of the mass transit system in NY area.

[brandonx76]

Al Gore calls Sandy a ‘disturbing sign of things to come,’ urges climate action

wrong thread...

[conversationpc]

Al Gore calls Sandy a ‘disturbing sign of things to come,’ urges climate action

Their circular reasoning on this issue has made it impossible to argue anything. If it's too warm, it's man-made global warming. If it's really cold, it's climate change. If it's a big storm, climate change. If it's a few small storms, climate change. No rain, climate change.

[brandonx76]

"Here comes my own Katrina - the levee
Comes apart
There's an ocean of misery floodin' my heart
They may fix the weather in the world
Just like Mr. Gore said
But tell me what's to be done
Lord - 'bout the weather in my head"

Donald Fagen
The Weather In My Head

[The Sushi Hunter]

It's nice and sunny out in Ca right now. Mild temps, no wind, Hard to believe that it would be so screwed up on the East coast like it is. The thing we have to worry about out here is the earthquakes. Hope we don't get slammed by one of them since there's been disaster on the other side.

[No Surprize]

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Photo shop factual finder? I think not. What gets me is people who have giant oaks in their yards that have got to be 30 years or older. When winds and rain

like this come along, them fuckers fall like dominos and usually right on your home and ride. I for one only have a some royal palms growing and they are at

least 30 feet. They grow straight the fuck up with no limbs and the rest of my yard is shrub's and landscaping, fuck a tree. I know how storms are and they

can be fucking relentless in their fury. Water is powerful.

[The Sushi Hunter]

No chit! Trees are heavy beasts and they come down hard. We've got lots of big Eucalyptus trees in our area. These things are monsters too, like six to eight foot diameter trunks. From what tree specialists have told me, Eucalyptus are heavy ass trees. Old Oaks are another tree that's pretty big and heavy and has plenty of potential devistation if one were to come down. I keep my eye on these things and when it's been raining quite a bit and it's windy, I try and avoid going near those things.

[ebake02]

Turned into a whole lot of nothing in my neck of the woods.

[The Sushi Hunter]

Turned into a whole lot of nothing in my neck of the woods.

You sound almost deflated.

[ebake02]

Turned into a whole lot of nothing in my neck of the woods.

You sound almost deflated.

A little, Sandy's path was right through my area and all we got was a little bit of wind and a steady drizzle. I was hoping for a little more considering the way my local news blew this up.

[Starrider]

This is what my township looks like now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8rxoSNn-7E&sns=em

Had to evacuate yesterday and don't know when I will be able to get back home. Staying with family in an area that wasn't hit as hard, but we don't have power and the generator crapped out today. Still have some juice left on my Motorola Xoom tablet.

To anyone who didn't think this storm was a big deal, Sandy did an immeasurable amount of damage here. PSE&G (Public Service Electric & Gas) says it is the worst storm in terms of damage that they have dealt with in the history of the company. Obama will be here tomorrow to survey the damage.

[JRNYMAN]

I know how storms are and they can be fucking relentless in their fury. Water is powerful.

It sure is! But it's the energy that can send water moving in such large quantities that's really unbelievably powerful. Water is a very heavy element. It's heavier than a lot of solids but wind and especially sub-surface disruptions can really move it around and when masses of it run into something, that something gets moved - one way or another.

[cammiecam]

It was a big nothing in my neck of the woods too... but the footage on the news tells a completely different story in other parts of NY and NJ. Initially I was like "is this it?" but then seeing the flooding in lower Manhattan and LI and Jersey and seeing every other person on my FB wall report their power was out was crazy. My area usually is very lucky when these kinds of things happen, and such was the case yesterday, but I've never seen it liks this in this area - public transportation shut down, schools closed, fires the FDNY can't get to because of all the flooding, power out for so many people, crazy flooding. Very very shocking and sad. Starrider, I hope you're able to return to your home soon, I'm so sorry to hear you've had to evacuate. Hang in there...

Obama wanted to come to NYC too, but Bloomberg was all "Not so much". Guess he figured the resources would be better utilized elsewhere. Can't be mad at that.

[Starrider]

I am back and safe at home, but lots of carnage around here. This is the second time we got hit bad in the last 14 months. Schools are closed at least through the end of the week. Going to take a while to recover.

The NJ shore got trashed.