OFFICIAL DC Studios; "DCU" THREAD

[Abitaman]

I have like Henry in the Witcher and hate to see him leave. He seemed to love playing the character and wanted to stay true to the books. But the good side is, Henry has the same love for Superman and he stated through all this, he loves the character and wants to keep playing him. You want an actor like to play in your movies.

But I guess it is best he stepped aside on Witcher, he is going to have enough trouble playing Superman and Bond, Witcher would have been a drag on him.

[Monker]

I have like Henry in the Witcher and hate to see him leave. He seemed to love playing the character and wanted to stay true to the books. But the good side is, Henry has the same love for Superman and he stated through all this, he loves the character and wants to keep playing him. You want an actor like to play in your movies.

But I guess it is best he stepped aside on Witcher, he is going to have enough trouble playing Superman and Bond, Witcher would have been a drag on him.

The Witcher situation reminds me a lot of "Robin of Sherwood" when Michael Praed was replaced by Jason Connery. This was the main role of Robin Hood. Praed was well loved in the role and was perfectly cast. Praed quit because he was cast on other shows that paid more and had more exposure. Jason Connery is Sean Connery's son so he had name recognition. What they did was to actually kill off Robin and had Jason's Robin be from a different background. There are two common tellings of Robin's backtory. One is that he was a common "man of the people" and was exiled as everybody else. The other is like "Prince of Thieves" where Robin was a noble who lost everything. It was kind of interesting that they could tell both myths. They gave a great send off for Praed in his final scene, It was hard accept Connery...but he was surprisingly good. I don't know if they can pull something like that off with Witcher.

You are assuming too many things about why Cavill left Witcher. Now you have him cast as Bond as well.

[Monker]

Also, Sandman was renewed for a second season. "Good Omens" was as well...not DC, but a Neil Gaiman show.

[YoungJRNYfan]

David Zaslav at his investors meeting on 11/3/2022:

#WBD CEO David Zaslav says their focus will be in their major franchises that haven't been explored as much as they should:

“growing frustration of not having a new #Superman film or a #HarryPotter film or a #TheLordOfTheRings film in 30 years”

Take that with James Gunn's first tweet as new DC Studios boss tweeting out a Clark Kent reference and..yeah..it won't be long now. #HenryCavillSuperman #AnnounceMOS2 #DawnOfHope

[YoungJRNYfan]

I have like Henry in the Witcher and hate to see him leave. He seemed to love playing the character and wanted to stay true to the books. But the good side is, Henry has the same love for Superman and he stated through all this, he loves the character and wants to keep playing him. You want an actor like to play in your movies.

But I guess it is best he stepped aside on Witcher, he is going to have enough trouble playing Superman and Bond, Witcher would have been a drag on him.

All true. Though, his time as Bond is officially closing. It will take a little while for the new Bond films to take shape and reports are that they want a Bond in their 30's so Henry missed it by a decade after they passed on him and went with an older Bond via Craig; now they are reversing it and looking to cast a younger Bond. It's the reason why Henry took on gigs like The Man from Uncle and has once again teamed with Guy Ritchie to do a similar role. Henry will officially be tied to Superman for a good portion of time to come and it's one that he wants most, which is music to any Superman fans' ears. Good times ahead for Big Blue fans

[Monker]

David Zaslav at his investors meeting on 11/3/2022:

#WBD CEO David Zaslav says their focus will be in their major franchises that haven't been explored as much as they should:

“growing frustration of not having a new #Superman film or a #HarryPotter film or a #TheLordOfTheRings film in 30 years”

Take that with James Gunn's first tweet as new DC Studios boss tweeting out a Clark Kent reference and..yeah..it won't be long now. #HenryCavillSuperman #AnnounceMOS2 #DawnOfHope

Why does everything have to have some hidden meaning? I took Gunn's first post to mean that he doesn't want to just sit down on Twitter and type of bunch of stuff and have it blow up in his face. That he has to be careful on what he says - about anything, not just DC/Superman. And, because people look for this hidden meaning crap, he is absolutely correct.

Zaslav's post simply lists a bunch of franchises that need attention. He also says that it has been 30yrs...So, are you saying the last valid entry in the Superman franchise happened 30yrs ago? It was just a general comment on things they want to work on. If anything it is a negative for Superman because they could concentrate on things like Harry Potter and the budget for Superman could be less, or not even available.

And, if there was a contract for Cavill in Superman and they had decided on the future - they would tell everybody and not make vague comments that could apply to anything.

Also, it should be noted that NOTHING has been said about Black Adam...

[Monker]

I have like Henry in the Witcher and hate to see him leave. He seemed to love playing the character and wanted to stay true to the books. But the good side is, Henry has the same love for Superman and he stated through all this, he loves the character and wants to keep playing him. You want an actor like to play in your movies.

But I guess it is best he stepped aside on Witcher, he is going to have enough trouble playing Superman and Bond, Witcher would have been a drag on him.

All true. Though, his time as Bond is officially closing. It will take a little while for the new Bond films to take shape and reports are that they want a Bond in their 30's so Henry missed it by a decade after they passed on him and went with an older Bond via Craig; now they are reversing it and looking to cast a younger Bond. It's the reason why Henry took on gigs like The Man from Uncle and has once again teamed with Guy Ritchie to do a similar role. Henry will officially be tied to Superman for a good portion of time to come and it's one that he wants most, which is music to any Superman fans' ears. Good times ahead for Big Blue fans

If he had to choose between Bond and Superman, I would think he would choose Bond. WB has shown him no loyalty
. With a few exceptions, actors playing Bond do so for a long time. WB is fickle enough where they could cut him out at any time. Also, if Universals buys WB in a couple years, that could also change things for him, and everybody else working with WB.

You are also being very presumptuous saying Cavill will be tied up with Superman for years. Even if he gets a MoS2, it could fail at the box office. Then WB could be justified in firing Cavill and moving on with either a new actor, or ignore Superman and concentrate on other things. You simply have no idea what could happen

[YoungJRNYfan]

David Zaslav at his investors meeting on 11/3/2022:

#WBD CEO David Zaslav says their focus will be in their major franchises that haven't been explored as much as they should:

“growing frustration of not having a new #Superman film or a #HarryPotter film or a #TheLordOfTheRings film in 30 years”

Take that with James Gunn's first tweet as new DC Studios boss tweeting out a Clark Kent reference and..yeah..it won't be long now. #HenryCavillSuperman #AnnounceMOS2 #DawnOfHope

Why does everything have to have some hidden meaning? I took Gunn's first post to mean that he doesn't want to just sit down on Twitter and type of bunch of stuff and have it blow up in his face. That he has to be careful on what he says - about anything, not just DC/Superman. And, because people look for this hidden meaning crap, he is absolutely correct.

Zaslav's post simply lists a bunch of franchises that need attention. He also says that it has been 30yrs...So, are you saying the last valid entry in the Superman franchise happened 30yrs ago? It was just a general comment on things they want to work on. If anything it is a negative for Superman because they could concentrate on things like Harry Potter and the budget for Superman could be less, or not even available.

And, if there was a contract for Cavill in Superman and they had decided on the future - they would tell everybody and not make vague comments that could apply to anything.

Also, it should be noted that NOTHING has been said about Black Adam...

Wrong . Marketing investors and Zaslav already labeled Black Adam a success and reminded how Black Adam kicks off their "first inning" to a DCU.

[verslibre]

If he had to choose between Bond and Superman, I would think he would choose Bond.

And you're free to think whatever you want.

[YoungJRNYfan]

If he had to choose between Bond and Superman, I would think he would choose Bond.

And you're free to think whatever you want.

too good

[verslibre]

Why does everything have to have some hidden meaning? I took Gunn's first post to mean that he doesn't want to just sit down on Twitter and type of bunch of stuff and have it blow up in his face. That he has to be careful on what he says - about anything, not just DC/Superman. And, because people look for this hidden meaning crap, he is absolutely correct.

Of course. And to drive his point home, he had to absolutely reach for a Silver Age Superman panel.

I mean, he could have just not used a graphic, or used something else, but it had to be Superman. Because that means nothing.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Why does everything have to have some hidden meaning? I took Gunn's first post to mean that he doesn't want to just sit down on Twitter and type of bunch of stuff and have it blow up in his face. That he has to be careful on what he says - about anything, not just DC/Superman. And, because people look for this hidden meaning crap, he is absolutely correct.

Of course. And to drive his point home, he had to absolutely reach for a Silver Age Superman panel.

I mean, he could have just not used a graphic, or used something else, but it had to be vintage Superman. Because that means nothing.

Variety already reported that the studio is officially taking pitch's for the next Superman film and also on the job to find writers.

James Gunn posts a Clark Kent Silver Age picture, specifically of Clark pounding a typewriter. For no reason, right?

[verslibre]

James Gunn posts a Clark Kent Silver Age picture, specifically of Clark pounding a typewriter. For no reason, right?

Totally random, man. Totally!

[Monker]

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Variety already reported that the studio is officially taking pitch's for the next Superman film and also on the job to find writers.

So? Batgirl was cancel weeks prior to releasing proving it doesn't matter what stage a movie is not safe from WB canceling it.

It doesn't mean anything anyway...the movie can be completely written, a director and producer assinged...it doesn't mean Cavill has kissed enough ass and come down far enough in his price to be offered a contract. It should tell you guys something that NOTHING has changed since Black Adam was released.

James Gunn posts a Clark Kent Silver Age picture, specifically of Clark pounding a typewriter. For no reason, right?

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That is not what it showed. It showed him pointy finger typing very gently with a caption saying he had to type very lightly or he would smash the typewriter as if he were Hulk. Well, maybe not exactly that, but somewhat close. He is not going to talk about Cavill in a movie that he hasn't signed a contract for. You must think Gunn is really, really stupid.

Besides that, MoS is Snyder's vision of Superman. Gunn may have a completely different idea of where to take the character and MoS2 isn't even on the table from his POV. You just don't know.

[Monker]

Wrong . Marketing investors and Zaslav already labeled Black Adam a success and reminded how Black Adam kicks off their "first inning" to a DCU.

Then they either don't know what they are talking about or are blatantly lying to make their investment look more successful than what it is.

It hasn't even made up the $300million for budget + promotion. And, next weekend Wakanda Forever is released which will suck up all the dollars in the room. Black Adam is one of the worst grossing movies to come out of DC. There is no other way to look at it other than a failure.

If this is the first inning of the DCU then Gunn should quit before the 2nd inning...because this has gone REALLY bad so far.

BTW, Grace was asked "What would do with DC if you were in charge?" She said, "I would get into space and 'nuke'm from orbit, like Ripley said in Aliens. Then I would start completely over with a blank slate." Damn, she is copying my ideas.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Damn, she is copying my ideas.

Grace says that only because she's totally embarrassed and ashamed how her scoop game has gone downhill since the WBD merger has plummeted her reputation so fierce that she will do anything to hide the obvious fact of all her sources at DC are plugged and deceased. It wasn't long ago where she was gloating about giving Walter Hamada's "Universe a chance" and how the "truth shall set us all free" when the absolute opposite completely happened to everything she reported

She is in operation delusion and will suffocate in the hole she dug for herself with what little credibility she has left (spoiler alert: she has none). She has missed the DC mark so laughably bad that she is allergic to admitting how wrong she is and always was..kind of like someone else we know.

Isn't that right, Monker Randolph?

It makes total sense you two share the same ideas givin how you two enjoy the same smell of your own b-hole.

If this is the first inning of the DCU then Gunn should quit before the 2nd inning...because this has gone REALLY bad so far.

Are you really that as stupid is as stupid does? You do realize James Gunn and Peter Safran took over DC Studios on November 1st, 2022 right?

WBD and Gunn's involvement on Black Adam isn't even close to their fingerprints as these next few DC films we will see will all be under the Hamadaburger; Warner Media umbrella.

WBD can only tweak these next set of films already shot, including massive rewrites and reshoots to Flash and Aquaman2 to fit a new perspective on where their DCU is heading. All WBD signed off on with Black Adam was green lighting Henry Cavill's return as Superman.

WBD will have most of their control on Aquaman2 since they came in at a time where that release date was still far ways out where they can make themselves available in those changes without throwing the bathwater out. Gunns involvement and the new DCU will be in full WBD throttle after Aquaman2 (which is already looked at as a $1.15 billion dollar upstarting franchise/IP from its previous installment).

[verslibre]

Shit. Grace wouldn't have the first clue ''bout what to do.

[verslibre]

Recasting Lois Lane For Man Of Steel 2 Would Insult Superman Fans

https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/r ... 243d616751

[Monker]

This is one of the dumbest posts I've read. YOU said, "Marketing investors and Zaslav already labeled Black Adam a success and reminded how Black Adam kicks off their "first inning" to a DCU," in defense of Black Adam. Now you say that is a STUPID idea. You are fucking arguing with yourself, calling yourself stupid.

All this stuff about Grace, I don't care about. I just think it is ironic how often we agree on some things. I have been saying for weeks that DC should scrap everything, not do anything new for a few years, put all of this ridiculous drama behind them and start completely over. Grace seems to agree. If you can't handle that, well, that's your issue, not mine.

Then you get into more personal attacks, probably because you know I am right about Black Adam being a failure - and the facts are on my side. So, you have nothing left to do but throw personal attacks. Lame.

Then you talk about Aquaman being a 1.2 billion dollar film in reference to Aquaman 2. You are the very same person who guaranteed Wonder Woman 2 would be a billion dollar film. Instead it is one of the worst DC films out there. It is HORRIBLE and didn't come close to a billion dollars. Just because Aquaman was successful does not mean the follow up will be. Wonder Woman 84 is proof of that.

When Hamada came on you did this exact same thing. He was going to make this change and that change and he wouldn't stand for this and that. You would think you would learn from your mistakes and be a bit more deliberate about your enthusiasm. Gunn is inexperienced as an executive. There is NO WAY to know if he can even handle the job.

Damn, she is copying my ideas.

Grace says that only because she's totally embarrassed and ashamed how her scoop game has gone downhill since the WBD merger has plummeted her reputation so fierce that she will do anything to hide the obvious fact of all her sources at DC are plugged and deceased. It wasn't long ago where she was gloating about giving Walter Hamada's "Universe a chance" and how the "truth shall set us all free" when the absolute opposite completely happened to everything she reported

She is in operation delusion and will suffocate in the hole she dug for herself with what little credibility she has left (spoiler alert: she has none). She has missed the DC mark so laughably bad that she is allergic to admitting how wrong she is and always was..kind of like someone else we know.

Isn't that right, Monker Randolph?

It makes total sense you two share the same ideas givin how you two enjoy the same smell of your own b-hole.

If this is the first inning of the DCU then Gunn should quit before the 2nd inning...because this has gone REALLY bad so far.

Are you really that as stupid is as stupid does? You do realize James Gunn and Peter Safran took over DC Studios on November 1st, 2022 right?

WBD and Gunn's involvement on Black Adam isn't even close to their fingerprints as these next few DC films we will see will all be under the Hamadaburger; Warner Media umbrella.

WBD can only tweak these next set of films already shot, including massive rewrites and reshoots to Flash and Aquaman2 to fit a new perspective on where their DCU is heading. All WBD signed off on with Black Adam was green lighting Henry Cavill's return as Superman.

WBD will have most of their control on Aquaman2 since they came in at a time where that release date was still far ways out where they can make themselves available in those changes without throwing the bathwater out. Gunns involvement and the new DCU will be in full WBD throttle after Aquaman2 (which is already looked at as a $1.15 billion dollar upstarting franchise/IP from its previous installment).

[Monker]

Recasting Lois Lane For Man Of Steel 2 Would Insult Superman Fans

https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/r ... 243d616751

Sorry, but that is a speculative piece of crap article.

[verslibre]

Sorry, but that is a speculative piece of crap article.

What's the problem? You love to speculate. It's your specialty.

[Monker]

Sorry, but that is a speculative piece of crap article.

What's the problem? You love to speculate. It's your specialty.

Well, thank you. It's good to know that you think I should be paid to write such speculative fiction and have articles published on msn.com. That is a great compliment.

[verslibre]

I should be paid to write

No.

[Abitaman]

You are assuming too many things about why Cavill left Witcher. Now you have him cast as Bond as well.

I know, but I think Henry would make a good Bond.

[Monker]

You are assuming too many things about why Cavill left Witcher. Now you have him cast as Bond as well.

I know, but I think Henry would make a good Bond.

Possibly. He makes a good Sherlock Holmes. The latest Enola Holmes is better than the first.

But, to my point about Cavill and the Witcher. There is a petition that has nearly 100,000 signatures from people who believe he left because of the writing. They are just as much in the right as you are. Nobody knows the truth right now.

[Monker]

Black Adam may not even make $400million. Ouch. WB is going to have to take a big loss on this.

[Monker]

So, today it is reported in a bunch of place that Cavill does not have a current Superman contract. Just one of many...love that it is on SyFy.com, too funny:

https://www.syfy.com/syfy-wire/henry-ca ... sure-thing

Use common sense guys and you wouldn't be so committed to hyped up propaganda. Cavill may get a contract...but he does NOT have anything but cameos right now.

[Monker]

"Anyone who says they know anything about anything in the future of the DCU is bullshitting, because right now that is truly only me and Peter." --- James Gunn

Thank you Mr. Gunn. So, those who go about saying MoS2 is a sure thing, or BAvSM is a sure thing, or Back Adam 2 is a sure thing, those people are bullshitting - according to James Gunn himself.

Again, use common sense. James Gunn and Peter Safran just took over. They need to plan their direction. That direction may not jive with Snyder's direction so MOS2 may not even happen...*IF* Cavill does another Superman film, it may be such a different direction that they do not want to use the "Man of Steel" title, but something new instead. We just don't know...and that is basically what I have been trying to say...that, and I doubt VERY much Black Adam has much of a future at all right now. And, that Cavill does not have a contract yet - which seems to be true.

[verslibre]

"MoS2" is a placeholder. The rumored title of a sequel, from years ago, was Superman of Tomorrow. If neither title is used, it doesn't matter. A second solo Superman film featuring Henry Cavill in the title role will happen. Count on it.

I'm glad you enjoy tooting your horn. Btw, you dropped your hat.

[Monker]

[quote="verslibre"]"MoS2" is a placeholder. The rumored title of a sequel, from years ago, was Superman of Tomorrow. If neither title is used, it doesn't matter. A second solo Superman film featuring Henry Cavill in the title role will happen. Count on it.

I'm glad you enjoy tooting your horn. Btw, you dropped your hat.

Your argument is with James Gunn....HE is the one saying the above is bullshitting.

You don't know what is going to happen because even he has not completed his plans and presented them to WB. Yeah, Cavill could still be in a Superman movie - but he has not signed any contract yet, and according to James Gunn, the future has not been decided yet and people like you are just 'bullshtting'.

Maybe they will make a movie of the "Suicide Squad Kills the Justice League" game...could be fun...and seems very much like something James Gunn would be into. They want to tie the games into the DCU - a perfect opportunity.