They're Eating The Dogs Presidential Thread

[Memorex]

At the end of the day, this really does highlight the differences and struggle within the government and the lengths to which all sides are willing to go.

These people are so far away from representing us as a people it's not even funny.

[Monker]

You guys are just making shit up as you go now.

That probably means the NSA monitored calls of the Russian diplomat.

This is ridiculous...as I said (before the news did, BTW....or, at least before I heard it on the news), if there is a wiretap requested by Obama, it had to be supported by evidence and signed off on by a judge...which means Trump is in deep shit.

mentioned yesterday about a NYT article, here is the main part..day before inauguration.

[Monker]

At the end of the day, this really does highlight the differences and struggle within the government and the lengths to which all sides are willing to go.

These people are so far away from representing us as a people it's not even funny.

Which is why this needs to be an independent and public investigation. This is bullshit.

[Monker]

And, what it is supposed to prove anyway? The source of Briet Bart's made up bullshit?

If this is supposed to be some sort of "evidence" of a wire tap, you need to adjust your tin foil hat.

...and outsourced mail service is now "a covert server linking the Trump Organization to a Russian-based bank."


hahahaha

[steveo777]

And, what it is supposed to prove anyway? The source of Briet Bart's made up bullshit?

If this is supposed to be some sort of "evidence" of a wire tap, you need to adjust your tin foil hat.

...and outsourced mail service is now "a covert server linking the Trump Organization to a Russian-based bank."


hahahaha

Why is it Conservative sources are always bullshit and liberal sources are the honest ones? Because it makes things easier for you. What horse shit, Mr. 911 was a setup.

They think liberal sources are the honest ones, simply because they get their daily dose of whatever the narrative du jour is from them.
On my FaceBook, I have a mix of conservatives and liberals. As you probably know, most of the musicians are liberals. I get along great with most of them, as long as we don't talk about politics. This one guy I had to unfriend, I did so because he couldn't seem to do anything but post political propaganda. It became all he was, 10 - 15 posts a day, and it was garbage that came from Occupy Democrats, Slate and DailyKos. When who is president consumes your life 24/7 and you spend every waking hour talking about how to bring the president down, posting the next propaganda piece that should get him impeached and hating on everyone who doesn't agree, it's time to flush said person. Monker probably does that on FaceBook too. I don't read his page, but I know he has one.

[Monker]

They think liberal sources are the honest ones, simply because they get their daily dose of whatever the narrative du jour is from them.
On my FaceBook, I have a mix of conservatives and liberals. As you probably know, most of the musicians are liberals. I get along great with most of them, as long as we don't talk about politics. This one guy I had to unfriend, I did so because he couldn't seem to do anything but post political propaganda. It became all he was, 10 - 15 posts a day, and it was garbage that came from Occupy Democrats, Slate and DailyKos. When who is president consumes your life 24/7 and you spend every waking hour talking about how to bring the president down, posting the next propaganda piece that should get him impeached and hating on everyone who doesn't agree, it's time to flush said person. Monker probably does that on FaceBook too. I don't read his page, but I know he has one.

Not true at all. I hardly ever post and when I do it's hardly ever about politics. And, there are very few people on FB I talk politics with (on their page). For me, FB isn't a a giant personal forum for such things.

As for the above, if Briet Bart wouldn't make shit like this up, their wouldn't be an issue. We now have a President who believes fake news is real and any negative news about him is fake. This would be like Obama using the Huffington Post to base foreign policy on, or accuse prior Presidents of crimes. What Trump is doing in asinine and dangerous. Trump himself is dangerous. I wonder if there are any provisions in the Constitution to remove a President from power who is senile or mentally ill in some way, or simply dangerous to himself and the country.

[Monker]

Simply put Steve 777, everything Conservative lie, liberal true. Reminds me of the Nat. geo show I watched last night about North Koreans. Monker would be a perfect fit.

Says the person who can't tell if something is spam and repeats it anyway...and then whines when it IS spam.

[JBlake]

They think liberal sources are the honest ones, simply because they get their daily dose of whatever the narrative du jour is from them.
On my FaceBook, I have a mix of conservatives and liberals. As you probably know, most of the musicians are liberals. I get along great with most of them, as long as we don't talk about politics. This one guy I had to unfriend, I did so because he couldn't seem to do anything but post political propaganda. It became all he was, 10 - 15 posts a day, and it was garbage that came from Occupy Democrats, Slate and DailyKos. When who is president consumes your life 24/7 and you spend every waking hour talking about how to bring the president down, posting the next propaganda piece that should get him impeached and hating on everyone who doesn't agree, it's time to flush said person. Monker probably does that on FaceBook too. I don't read his page, but I know he has one.

The dems haven't been this pissed off & hell bent against the republicans since Lincoln freed the slaves.

[slucero]

this is why the Dems are screaming...

they are TERRIFIED that their little Russia diversion, that they called for a "special prosecutor" for, has morphed into a wiretap investigation that is gonna now be investigated by Congress..

3 FISA requests... the paper trail has to be yuge..


Imagine that this does lead right back to Obama... the Dems would have to completely disconnect themselves from Obama to have any hope of saving their party...

This is "coffin nail", Wartergate kinda stuff.


Timeline:

1. June 2016: FISA request. The Obama administration files a request with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) to monitor communications involving Donald Trump and several advisers. The request, uncharacteristically, is denied.

2. July: Russia joke. Wikileaks releases emails from the Democratic National Committee that show an effort to prevent Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) from winning the presidential nomination. In a press conference, Donald Trump refers to Hillary Clinton’s own missing emails, joking: “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing.” That remark becomes the basis for accusations by Clinton and the media that Trump invited further hacking.

3. October: Podesta emails. In October, Wikileaks releases the emails of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta, rolling out batches every day until the election, creating new mini-scandals. The Clinton campaign blames Trump and the Russians.

4. October: FISA request. The Obama administration submits a new, narrow request to the FISA court, now focused on a computer server in Trump Tower suspected of links to Russian banks. No evidence is found — but the wiretaps continue, ostensibly for national security reasons, Andrew McCarthy at National Review later notes. The Obama administration is now monitoring an opposing presidential campaign using the high-tech surveillance powers of the federal intelligence services.

5. January 2017: Buzzfeed/CNN dossier. Buzzfeed releases, and CNN reports, a supposed intelligence “dossier” compiled by a foreign former spy. It purports to show continuous contact between Russia and the Trump campaign, and says that the Russians have compromising information about Trump. None of the allegations can be verified and some are proven false. Several media outlets claim that they had been aware of the dossier for months and that it had been circulating in Washington.

6. January: Obama expands NSA sharing. As Michael Walsh later notes, and as the New York Times reports, the outgoing Obama administration “expanded the power of the National Security Agency to share globally intercepted personal communications with the government’s 16 other intelligence agencies before applying privacy protections.” The new powers, and reduced protections, could make it easier for intelligence on private citizens to be circulated improperly or leaked.

7. January: Times report. The New York Times reports, on the eve of Inauguration Day, that several agencies — the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the National Security Agency (NSA) and the Treasury Department are monitoring several associates of the Trump campaign suspected of Russian ties. Other news outlets also report the exisentence of “a multiagency working group to coordinate investigations across the government,” though it is unclear how they found out, since the investigations would have been secret and involved classified information.

8. February: Mike Flynn scandal. Reports emerge that the FBI intercepted a conversation in 2016 between future National Security Adviser Michael Flynn — then a private citizen — and Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak. The intercept supposedly was part of routine spying on the ambassador, not monitoring of the Trump campaign. The FBI transcripts reportedly show the two discussing Obama’s newly-imposed sanctions on Russia, though Flynn earlier denied discussing them. Sally Yates, whom Trump would later fire as acting Attorney General for insubordination, is involved in the investigation. In the end, Flynn resigns over having misled Vice President Mike Pence (perhaps inadvertently) about the content of the conversation.

9. February: Times claims extensive Russian contacts. The New York Times cites “four current and former American officials” in reporting that the Trump campaign had “repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials. The Trump campaign denies the claims — and the Times admits that there is “no evidence” of coordination between the campaign and the Russians. The White House and some congressional Republicans begin to raise questions about illegal intelligence leaks.

10. March: the Washington Post targets Jeff Sessions. The Washington Post reports that Attorney General Jeff Sessions had contact twice with the Russian ambassador during the campaign — once at a Heritage Foundation event and once at a meeting in Sessions’s Senate office. The Post suggests that the two meetings contradict Sessions’s testimony at his confirmation hearings that he had no contacts with the Russians, though in context (not presented by the Post) it was clear he meant in his capacity as a campaign surrogate, and that he was responding to claims in the “dossier” of ongoing contacts. The New York Times, in covering the story, adds that the Obama White House “rushed to preserve” intelligence related to alleged Russian links with the Trump campaign. By “preserve” it really means “disseminate”: officials spread evidence throughout other government agencies “to leave a clear trail of intelligence for government investigators” and perhaps the media as well.

[slucero]

the FISA requests are now the main focus..as they should be... Clapper will be a forgotten sideline...

I'm betting there are a lot of high-level Dems who are having to change their shorts every couple of hours....


Remember what happened when Nixon got found out... he had to quit... but...

• John Mitchell - Attorney-General and Chairman of the Committee to Re-elect the President
• Charles Colson - special counsel to the President
• Howard Hunt - (ex-White House staff)
• G. Gordon Liddy - (ex-White House staff)

...all went to prison..

[JBlake]

the FISA requests are now the main focus..as they should be... Clapper will be a forgotten sideline...

I'm betting there are a lot of high-level Dems who are having to change their shorts every couple of hours....


Remember what happened when Nixon got found out... he had to quit... but...

• John Mitchell - Attorney-General and Chairman of the Committee to Re-elect the President
• Charles Colson - special counsel to the President
• Howard Hunt - (ex-White House staff)
• G. Gordon Liddy - (ex-White House staff)

...all went to prison..

As I understand, he (Nixon) didn't have to quit (at that point) but he quit so he could beat them to the punch (impeachment proceedings). Yes? No?

[Boomchild]

this is why the Dems are screaming...

they are TERRIFIED that their little Russia diversion, that they called for a "special prosecutor" for, has morphed into a wiretap investigation that is gonna now be investigated by Congress..

3 FISA requests... the paper trail has to be yuge..


Imagine that this does lead right back to Obama... the Dems would have to completely disconnect themselves from Obama to have any hope of saving their party...

This is "coffin nail", Wartergate kinda stuff.

Well, you can say at least two things, this going to get interesting and entertaining.

[Boomchild]

Meanwhile in the rest of the world.....

ISIS launches chemical weapon attack on women and children, including a two-month-old baby, in Mosul

A two-month-old baby is being treated in hospital for possible exposure to chemical weapons after an attack in Mosul thought to have been carried out by ISIS.

The baby is one of 12 people, including women and children, who have been treated since March 1 after the attack where Islamic State is fighting off an offensive by U.S.-backed Iraqi forces, the United Nations said on Saturday.

Although it is not known who is to blame for the attack, the mortars were apparently fired from ISIS held west Mosul.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z4aasPFLgs

If it turns out that chemical weapons were used and it was ISIS, I wonder where they got those from?

[Monker]

this is why the Dems are screaming...

they are TERRIFIED that their little Russia diversion, that they called for a "special prosecutor" for, has morphed into a wiretap investigation that is gonna now be investigated by Congress..

3 FISA requests... the paper trail has to be yuge..


Imagine that this does lead right back to Obama... the Dems would have to completely disconnect themselves from Obama to have any hope of saving their party...

This is "coffin nail", Wartergate kinda stuff.

Well, you can say at least two things, this going to get interesting and entertaining.

No it's not. It's fucking sad.

Nixon quit because he was would rather take the blame then damage the integrity of the presidency.

Trump OBVIOUSLY doesn't give a shit about the presidency. He only cares about himself and the public perception of HIS integrity.

[Monker]

the FISA requests are now the main focus..as they should be... Clapper will be a forgotten sideline...

I'm betting there are a lot of high-level Dems who are having to change their shorts every couple of hours....


Remember what happened when Nixon got found out... he had to quit... but...

• John Mitchell - Attorney-General and Chairman of the Committee to Re-elect the President
• Charles Colson - special counsel to the President
• Howard Hunt - (ex-White House staff)
• G. Gordon Liddy - (ex-White House staff)

...all went to prison..

It's not going happen any more than Hillary will be "Locked up".

For this to happen you would have to believe that Obama :
1. is dumb enough to wiretap a candidate when he has the NSA.
2. Is dumb enough to leave a paper trail of court requests to do the wiretap.

You can think a lot of things about Obama, but he's not dumb. If he wanted to watch Trump, he would use the NSA and not have to worry about things like this. Or, since our allies do the exact same listening procedures as the NSA, he could get the info from Canada or Britan.

The bottom line is that TRUMP is in deep shit and he has tried to turn the focus. Instead it went right back on him because to get a wire tap there has to be enough evidence to convince a judge. He can't just 'do it', like he and Breit Bart thinks. It's simple BULLSHIT, fake news.

Now he is shutting his mouth and simply wants it investigated. This is going to go the same way as the three million illegal votes that he wanted investigated. Now that it is out of focus, nobody cares that it made him look like an idiot. This entire wiretap bullshit makes him look like an idiot and he is going to want everybody to forget about it now.

[Memorex]

the FISA requests are now the main focus..as they should be... Clapper will be a forgotten sideline...

I'm betting there are a lot of high-level Dems who are having to change their shorts every couple of hours....


Remember what happened when Nixon got found out... he had to quit... but...

• John Mitchell - Attorney-General and Chairman of the Committee to Re-elect the President
• Charles Colson - special counsel to the President
• Howard Hunt - (ex-White House staff)
• G. Gordon Liddy - (ex-White House staff)

...all went to prison..

It's not going happen any more than Hillary will be "Locked up".

For this to happen you would have to believe that Obama :
1. is dumb enough to wiretap a candidate when he has the NSA.
2. Is dumb enough to leave a paper trail of court requests to do the wiretap.

You can think a lot of things about Obama, but he's not dumb. If he wanted to watch Trump, he would use the NSA and not have to worry about things like this. Or, since our allies do the exact same listening procedures as the NSA, he could get the info from Canada or Britan.

The bottom line is that TRUMP is in deep shit and he has tried to turn the focus. Instead it went right back on him because to get a wire tap there has to be enough evidence to convince a judge. He can't just 'do it', like he and Breit Bart thinks. It's simple BULLSHIT, fake news.

Now he is shutting his mouth and simply wants it investigated. This is going to go the same way as the three million illegal votes that he wanted investigated. Now that it is out of focus, nobody cares that it made him look like an idiot. This entire wiretap bullshit makes him look like an idiot and he is going to want everybody to forget about it now.

One might ask, if he is guilty of anything, why would he up the stakes and ask for further investigation. There is no turning back now. Prior to this, the public polls showed people were tiring of the Russian thing and wanted to move on. No, no chance of that happening. I can't possibly imagine Trump would invite that kind of heat if he felt he had anything to worry about.

On top of that, there is ample evidence, through leaks and reporting, that there were wiretaps. I can't believe that would be in dispute. And as I have said, no way Trump gets wire tapped without Obama being in the loop. Not a single chance in hell. As far as paper trail, I think Obama is no where near any of it. Cause you are right, he is not dumb. He would have absolutely made sure he was protected.

If Trump or his staff were tapped, and there was not sufficient cause, or the surveillance went on after it was determined there was nothing there, people are going to jail. There is no way around that.

[Monker]

One might ask, if he is guilty of anything, why would he up the stakes and ask for further investigation.

Only somebody who can't think for themselves would ask a stupid question like that.
Trump doesn't like a conversation HE is having with the media because he wants them to focus on something else, he finds a way to bury it.

Putting this into investigation buries it...and he doesn't have to comment on it any longer.

There is no turning back now. Prior to this, the public polls showed people were tiring of the Russian thing and wanted to move on. No, no chance of that happening. I can't possibly imagine Trump would invite that kind of heat if he felt he had anything to worry about.

LOL. What are you talking about? The Russia thing has been under investigation for weeks now by both the FBI and both houses of congress. It's NOT going away....and Trump didn't ask for that attention.

The "wiretap" thing being an addendum to the above investigations is a "request". Neither committee MUST do it.

On top of that, there is ample evidence, through leaks and reporting, that there were wiretaps. I can't believe that would be in dispute.

Not true. There is evidence that the FBI is privy to certain conversations. But, that does not equate to wiretaps.

This entire investigation started because the NSA heard Trump people speaking to Russians. That is NOT a wiretap. This is the stuff Snowden went on about. ANY conversation that goes through a satellite can be monitored by the NSA. No wire tap needed. No request needed. No court approval needed.

And as I have said, no way Trump gets wire tapped without Obama being in the loop.

No way Trump gets 'tapped'. No reason to, see above.

As far as paper trail, I think Obama is no where near any of it. Cause you are right, he is not dumb. He would have absolutely made sure he was protected.

Or, he could simply leave it up to the NSA to feed the FBI conversations as needed and requested by the FBI. THERE IS NO NEED FOR OBAMA TO BE INVOLVED.

If Trump or his staff were tapped, and there was not sufficient cause, or the surveillance went on after it was determined there was nothing there, people are going to jail. There is no way around that.

Wow, you WAY under-estimate the capabilities of the NSA...and are letting your imagination run wild.

[Monker]

Ah, that explains some things. So, when Trump thinks of "taco bowl", this is what he sees. Nice.

8)

[The_Noble_Cause]

TNC,
Are you sure you didn't take a break because you had a stroke or some type of mental breakdown? You are all over the place in your reply...not even really replying to my post but just writing a bunch of random crap. It's to a point where I can't even reply to your post.

So what else is new? You never could reply to anybody that diverges from the "Democrats = good, Republicans = bad" binary playbook. Still can't.

All of Trump's liberal spending and monsterous tax cuts isn't going to get past congress. He'll propose a budget and it will be DOA, just like all Presidential budgets are. Then we'll see what congress works out...and if Trump hates it enough to veto it.

He's been mostly governing by executive order so far and many proposals (travel ban, the wall) are definitely happening.

And, it has not much to do with Democrats...it has to do with fiscal conservative Republicans who were voted in to reign in Obama's spending...and simple conservative sensibilities. They complained when W. did this, and are hypocrites if they allow Trump to do THE EXACT SAME THING.

You still don't get it. Trump remade the Republican party. Strict conservative sensibilities don't have to be followed. Stephen Moore from the Heritage Foundation even told GOP officials, "you are no longer Reagan's party, you are now a populist party." Trump was the first candidate since Perot to tackle NAFTA and the trade deficit as a centerpiece of his campaign. Even the GOP establishment hated him.

More people are against him then are for him. That is reality, not Democrat spin. It's a reality that he does not want to face...and it seems you don't either.

I certainly admit that. And many of his staunchest haters (Hollywood, the press, military industrial whores like Graham/McCain) are the modern day variation of the "economic royalists" that hated FDR. FDR "welcomed their hatred" as does Trump. You pink pussy hat wearing freaks are only emboldening him and solidifying his support.

I'm sorry, but Russia trying to influence who our President is by hacking and possibly colusion with their prefered candidate is a MUCH bigger problem then China hacking into the FDIC, which wasn't talked about here by ANYONE. Donald Judas Trump's time as President is going to be saturated by serious scandal.

In your last reply, you stated that "Russian hacking" was also a bigger issue than the Reagan campaign undermining Carter hostage negotiations AND LBJ's attempts to stop Vietnam. So let's let that sink in. You are alleging that a hacked website is more important than actually endangered American lives. There was no Russian hacking. Wikileaks is the equivalent of a blog. If I hack the Linden LaRouche Party and post emails on wordpress, have I hacked democracy itself? Get off it.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Which is why this needs to be an independent and public investigation. This is bullshit.

No thanks. We voted for Trump to get things done. The whiny neo-McCarthyite Democrats, in league with CIA elements, are attempting to destabilize the government. This is because Trump is the most fiercely independent President since JFK and Reagan and it scares the entrenched bureaucracy shitless.

[slucero]

I remember Monker saying there was "no chance in Hell" that Trump would be elected..."


yet... here we are...

[slucero]

Which is why this needs to be an independent and public investigation. This is bullshit.

No thanks. We voted for Trump to get things done. The whiny neo-McCarthyite Democrats, in league with CIA elements, are attempting to destabilize the government. This is because Trump is the most fiercely independent President since JFK and Reagan and it scares the entrenched bureaucracy shitless.

BING-fucking-GO!

[The_Noble_Cause]

If W had not gone in the first place Saddam would still be there and Trump would be praising him, too.

And easily manipulated idiots like you would be following Hillary's lead and demanding sanctions/war. No core values.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I remember Monker saying there was "no chance in Hell" that Trump would be elected..."


yet... here we are...

Very true. The "Russians did it!" narrative serves as a life raft for these hopelessly adrift losers. After her loss, they don't know what to think or feel anymore. They truly thought Hillary was an appealing candidate.

[Monker]

Which is why this needs to be an independent and public investigation. This is bullshit.

No thanks. We voted for Trump to get things done. The whiny neo-McCarthyite Democrats, in league with CIA elements, are attempting to destabilize the government. This is because Trump is the most fiercely independent President since JFK and Reagan and it scares the entrenched bureaucracy shitless.

I've been telling this idiot just that,TNC. Trump is NOT a Republican, he just ran on the ticket. All Monker and other liberal assholes see is REPUBLICAN so it's all bad.

....and I've been saying he is a liberal since early on in the election.

[Monker]

I remember Monker saying there was "no chance in Hell" that Trump would be elected..."


yet... here we are...

Very true. The "Russians did it!" narrative serves as a life raft for these hopelessly adrift losers.

You're wrong. Trump's actions are going to get him impeached, or having dinner and not waking up in the morning.

I was making this argument LONG before the election was over. When OhSherrie was posting, she said she wanted Trump to come in and throw a kink in the system and maybe even destroy the Republican party. I said he was the wrong person and compared him to Hitler...that he was DANGEROUS. That was LONG before the election.

[Monker]

If W had not gone in the first place Saddam would still be there and Trump would be praising him, too.

And easily manipulated idiots like you would be following Hillary's lead and demanding sanctions/war. No core values.

Sanctions, yes...war, no.

[Monker]

Which is why this needs to be an independent and public investigation. This is bullshit.

No thanks. We voted for Trump to get things done.

Yep, and instead you are going to get four years of investigations.

The whiny neo-McCarthyite Democrats, in league with CIA elements, are attempting to destabilize the government.

What are you talking about? The CIA has nothing to do with this. And, the Democrats do not have the numbers to matter.

This is because Trump is the most fiercely independent President since JFK and Reagan and it scares the entrenched bureaucracy shitless.

Being independent doesn't scare anybody.

When Spicer's first appearence before the press he LIED about almost everything. THAT is scary.

Blaming all of your problems on the press or the people you hand selected to support you, instead of being a leader and taking responsibility. THAT is scarey.

Retelling Breit Bart as FACT without any supporting facts. THAT is scarey.

Implying Sweden was attacked by terrorsts because he saw a documentary on FOX. THAT is scarey.

And, on, and on, and on.

[Monker]

So what else is new? You never could reply to anybody that diverges from the "Democrats = good, Republicans = bad" binary playbook. Still can't.

If you are going to reply to a quote talking about apples by talking about oranges, then forget it. Not worthy of my time.

He's been mostly governing by executive order so far and many proposals (travel ban, the wall) are definitely happening.

Wrong.

The travel ban failed in court...and I'm sure this new one will be challenged again. So, you can not definitely say it will happen.'

The Wall will need to be funded by congress. They can accept all the bids they want, but congress has to fund it. Good luck with that. It may go, it may become a fence....you don't know.

If Trump can not learn how to legislate, he can't govern. Period. If all he can do is executive orders, he will not have an ACA or stimulus package, or huge tax cuts, or a huge spending spree that he can't pay for.

You still don't get it. Trump remade the Republican party. Strict conservative sensibilities don't have to be followed. Stephen Moore from the Heritage Foundation even told GOP officials, "you are no longer Reagan's party, you are now a populist party." Trump was the first candidate since Perot to tackle NAFTA and the trade deficit as a centerpiece of his campaign. Even the GOP establishment hated him.

But, those Tea Party'ers are still in congress. You can not guarantee they will vote for Trump when they were elected by idiots like KC and FF to vote against deficit spending. It is against their core values and beliefs

I certainly admit that. And many of his staunchest haters (Hollywood, the press, military industrial whores like Graham/McCain) are the modern day variation of the "economic royalists" that hated FDR. FDR "welcomed their hatred" as does Trump. You pink pussy hat wearing freaks are only emboldening him and solidifying his support.

Sure, there are extremes. But, those extremes are not representing reality. I personally know a couple moderate Republicans who are leaving the party because they can't stomach Trump. People are just starting to realize what happens, for example, when immigrants are not their to pick crops or work in meat processing plants. People are just starting to realize when trade relations with China are damaged. People are just starting to realize how many people are going to be without health care even if Obamacare is relpealed/replaced.

You had your March 4 Trump protests and compared to what Indivisible is doing, it is miniscule. Indivisible is FAR more mainstream than you are giving it credit for.

In your last reply, you stated that "Russian hacking" was also a bigger issue than the Reagan campaign undermining Carter hostage negotiations AND LBJ's attempts to stop Vietnam. So let's let that sink in. You are alleging that a hacked website is more important than actually endangered American lives. There was no Russian hacking. Wikileaks is the equivalent of a blog. If I hack the Linden LaRouche Party and post emails on wordpress, have I hacked democracy itself? Get off it.

YOU are not Russia. You do not know the extent of their efforts...that is what the instigation is for. Russia attempting to influence our election is a MUCH bigger issue than you are giving credit for. And, if Trump cooperated in ANY way.....he is going to be in HUGE trouble.

[Monker]

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