StocktontoMalone wrote:Why do you keep mentioning
Spygate? All teams do it! And before you swing back with, 'But they got caught!' - let me clue you in to the logic of things. People are upset(first of all because they are jealous - let's get that straight) because it was brought out that they cheated....which - the last time I looked could still happen even if a team
ISN'T caught. You are driving 80 in a 55 zone....are you still speeding even if you don't get caught? Absolutely. So if the
cheating part of spygate is what has everyone up in arms and wanting to take back those superbowls and leading the charge to put three Asterixes on the record, then it only follows that if everyone is doing it - there's should be asterixed as well. Including your team's victories. I mean...it only follows, right?
Another thing, Trav....please explain to me how taping the opposition's sidelines from field level gives the Patriots a decided advantage.....I'm waiting.
I'm really getting sick of this pissing match with you. Seriously. Your act is old. It was only a few weeks ago that you made fun of John through those funny video clips of such subjects about the Patriots and all of this out of fun. Ironically your doing the same thing you were making fun of John about, just because you want to engage me this time. But I will tell you why.
#1 I keep mentioning it because the NFL was forced to open an investigation on this subject and the media and other news outlets across the world touched up on the subject and claimed it to be pretty big news and this lasted throughout the 2007 season week in and week out and we were forced to hear about it at any turn of the channel when dealing with anything NFL related. That alone gives the Patriots a bad rap. #2 They had multiple shots of the dude STANDING on the sidelines with the camera pointed directly at the Jets sideline, in clear view! #3 Yes, every team tries these tactics I'm sure and I know, but that doesn't exclude the Patriots were called out for it and if it wasn't such a big deal I'm sure Mangini wouldn't of even bothered. The Patriots got what they deserved and the punishment could of been worse. They broke the rules and got caught.
As far as them having an advantage, it's pretty clear captain obvious. Them being on field level, this let them key in on many signals, gestures, and movements that could of tipped them off as far as a package before a play is concerned, a certain tip off in any sense of the word could be a huge plot to any team as far as playcall, formation, and where guys are lining up during the coarse of the games is concerned. Whatever they saw were probably jotted down and were used to their advantage in many adjustments they could of made during certain times of the game and if they have those signals, they simply know what the team is going to be in before the team breaks huddle and see a similiar formation. This allows players to key in and pretty much know what's coming before hand. Instead of brushing up on the field around them , they simply know where to drop, come, or stay depending on the signal that they certainly know of. Plus they could call a right package defensively with he right personal. This could of been a HUGE indicator to halftime adjustments, which is a huge part to any football game or team. That's why spygate is mentioned, and it WAS a big deal.
I really don't care about it neither. This happened 2 full seasons ago and there really is no point in brushing up on it from here on out. But trust me when I say this, if the Steelers, Colts, Ravens, or any OTHER team would of been accused of the same thing, then I'm sure this would be a heavily debated case against any of those teams when discussing these things.
Well, you were on your little tirade of absolutely nothing.. again.. and were providing records, and the records indicate that Ben's the fastest player to 50 wins. It's been said many times. Noone has to care (obviously you did to pull up the stat.. and who gives a shit that Brady's 42-2 since his 50th? hmmm, moron), just as no one cares the all time record of The Pats over the Jets. It's still a record worth mentioning due to your post that has no point to it. You're just an instigator, and it's not working out for you.
Ben's just getting better & better.