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[verslibre]

Suicide Squad has a 2nd weekend 67% drop. Very close to BvS 69% drop off.

Suicide Squad has a 2nd weekend 67% drop. Very close to BvS 69% drop off.

Yep...no legs. Sounds like they were counting on millennials...since they were the only demographic that gave it an "A" rating. Critics hated it, and most people thought, "meh."

I'd say you two are predictable, but at this stage, it would come off as a compliment.

It's reported as a "67%" drop because they add Thursday (which alone saw the film earn a whopping 20.5 million, before we even got to Friday) and Friday together. If you just go by Friday to Friday, it's under 45%.

And it doesn't matter. Jason Bourne and Star Trek Beyond had similar drops. It's all there on Box Office Mojo for you to see, if you're not too lazy.

As far as saying "no legs" — dumb remarks like that don't deserve a response. The film has been open for ten days.

Now here are some actual facts:

Second weekend top-earner. Second weekend at #1. $465 million worldwide, and counting. Suicide Squad 2 is on the table.

Pete's Dragon couldn't even get any momentum going. Another flop for Disney/Buena Vista this year. That thing was outdistanced savagely by Sausage Party, which itself got topped by Squad to the tune of ten million.

This week we're getting the Ben-Hur remake, War Dogs, and Laika Entertainment's animated feature Kubo & the Two Strings (which will vie for the #1 spot with Ben-Hur). But Suicide Squad isn't leaving the Top 10 anytime soon.

[Monker]

Suicide Squad has a 2nd weekend 67% drop. Very close to BvS 69% drop off.

Suicide Squad has a 2nd weekend 67% drop. Very close to BvS 69% drop off.

Yep...no legs. Sounds like they were counting on millennials...since they were the only demographic that gave it an "A" rating. Critics hated it, and most people thought, "meh."

I'd say you two are predictable, but at this stage, it would come off as a compliment.

It's reported as a "67%" drop because they add Thursday (which alone saw the film earn a whopping 20.5 million, before we even got to Friday) and Friday together. If you just go by Friday to Friday, it's under 45%.

And it doesn't matter. Jason Bourne and Star Trek Beyond had similar drops. It's all there on Box Office Mojo for you to see, if you're not too lazy.

As far as saying "no legs" — dumb remarks like that don't deserve a response. The film has been open for ten days.

Now here are some actual facts:

Second weekend top-earner. Second weekend at #1. $465 million worldwide, and counting. Suicide Squad 2 is on the table.

Pete's Dragon couldn't even get any momentum going. Another flop for Disney/Buena Vista this year. That thing was outdistanced savagely by Sausage Party, which itself got topped by Squad to the tune of ten million.

This week we're getting the Ben-Hur remake, War Dogs, and Laika Entertainment's animated feature Kubo & the Two Strings (which will vie for the #1 spot with Ben-Hur). But Suicide Squad isn't leaving the Top 10 anytime soon.

Yeah, OK, meanwhile...just pulling the top few most recent hits in a Google search ("suicide squad second weekend"), nobody seems to care about your excuses:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/b ... uad-919425
Suicide Squad's steep decline in its second weekend is no joke for an anxious Warner Bros., even if the anti-superhero film has already grossed more than $465 million worldwide.

In an ideal world, tentpoles should fall no more than 60 percent. But according to Sunday estimates, David Ayer's movie tumbled 67 percent to $43.8 million in its sophomore outing at the domestic box office, after debuting to a hearty $133.7 million. The decline could be closer to 68 percent once final weekend numbers are tallied.



http://variety.com/2016/film/box-office ... 201837146/
And then there are victories that feel more like defeats. “Suicide Squad” topped domestic charts with $43.8 million, bringing its stateside total to a hefty $222.9 million. However, that represented a punishing 67% slide in the superhero movie’s second week business, nearly equaling “Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice’s” 69% sophomore plunge. It’s a signal that the deplorable reviews are catching up with the film and is unwelcome news for Warner Bros., which is trying to launch an inter-connected series of cinematic adventures based on DC Comics characters, but is still struggling to make movies that people like, as well as attend.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/20 ... ekend.html
Warner Bros.' intensely scrutinized comic book film broke records last weekend and managed to stay atop the box office with $43.8 million, according to studio estimates Sunday. But its earnings dropped a steep 67 percent from last weekend.

While not unexpected for a film of its size, a fall that large is often an indicator of poor word of mouth, said comScore senior media analyst Paul Dergarabedian. The DC Comics film, which cost around $175 million to produce, has earned $222.9 million domestically to date and $465.3 million worldwide.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movi ... /88587668/
Suicide Squad, the latest in the DC Films series, was No. 1 for a second weekend in a row with $43.8 million, according to studio estimates from comScore. It's good news and bad news for the comic-book film: That's a brutal 67% drop from its August-record $133.7 million opening, but the 10-day domestic total is $222.9 million for the supervillain-centric affair.

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainmen ... -1.2750851
According to studio estimates Sunday, the closely watched anti-hero film dropped an estimated 67% from its debut last weekend. Word of mouth may have caught up with the poorly reviewed film, but it still topped the box office with $43.8 million.

[verslibre]

There are no excuses, silly. The $465M is not a made-up number. Let's see how much it's made after a month.

[verslibre]

Also, don't make me remind you studios prefer front-loaded to "legs." The whole legs argument is bullshit (except for movies like The Dark Knight). The mo' money made in the first several weeks = the more the studio keeps.

[RedWingFan]

Suicide Squad has a 2nd weekend 67% drop. Very close to BvS 69% drop off.

It's reported as a "67%" drop because they add Thursday (which alone saw the film earn a whopping 20.5 million, before we even got to Friday) and Friday together. If you just go by Friday to Friday, it's under 45%.

Yeah, does Guardians OW to 2nd weekend drop of 55% contain their Thursday night opening? Does CA:Civil War's 59% drop include it's Thursday night opening? Does Deadpool's 57% drop include it's Thursday night opening? Stop trying to move the goalposts to put lipstick on the pig. SS is making less money daily now than even BvS. It made $12.5M on Sunday compared to BvS $13.98M.

[verslibre]

Henry Cavill's Instagram pic today teases Superman's famous black "regeneration" suit that was first seen in the comic two decades ago.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BJI-eYSgRR8/

[verslibre]

Suicide Squad has a 2nd weekend 67% drop. Very close to BvS 69% drop off.

It's reported as a "67%" drop because they add Thursday (which alone saw the film earn a whopping 20.5 million, before we even got to Friday) and Friday together. If you just go by Friday to Friday, it's under 45%.

Yeah, does Guardians OW to 2nd weekend drop of 55% contain their Thursday night opening? Does CA:Civil War's 59% drop include it's Thursday night opening? Does Deadpool's 57% drop include it's Thursday night opening? Stop trying to move the goalposts to put lipstick on the pig. SS is making less money daily now than even BvS. It made $12.5M on Sunday compared to BvS $13.98M.

No, it's 12.9M. Nobody expected this movie to outgross BvS. However, it's performing well. WB is pleased with its 10-day $466M cume.

Per the corresponding charts on Box Office Mojo, Suicide Squad has made more money everyday than GOTG. And with the lone exception of TMNT, GOTG had NO competition all month long (Expendables 3 bombed).

Goalposts? No, that's Monker's specialty. Is he fitting your bike with training wheels?

[verslibre]

Mark Hughes is on the money. This is exactly what's going on.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2016/08/12/suicide-squad-dominates-despite-medias-gloom-and-doom/#68f83e336f4e

'Suicide Squad' Dominates Despite Media's Gloom And Doom

[...]

Suicide Squad wasn’t liked by everyone, and that’s okay. It clearly wasn’t even liked by a majority or plurality of viewers, and that’s okay, too. The film — like most films — has flaws, and things that appeal to me might not appeal to you. If every single other review besides my own had been negative, that alone wouldn’t even prompt me to view the media coverage with skepticism. What does give me pause, however, is when I see headlines of increasing extreme assertions, claiming the film is one of the worst movies of all time, that it is possibly the most disappointing film ever made, that it is an insult to the concept of art and cinema, that it’s not even an actual movie, and so on.

Really? More disappointing than, just for one example that instantly jumps to mind as a reasonable counter-example, The Godfather Part III? Or The Color of Money (a sequel to The Hustler… written by Richard Price… with Paul Newman reprising his iconic role… staring new up-and-coming movie star Tom Cruise… directed by Martin Scorsese)? Anticipation and expectation were so high for a super-villain comic book movie that it trumps those and other examples? Not “most disappointing this year,” mind you — most disappointing ever, in the history of cinema. Likewise, the claim that it’s not even a real movie, and that doesn’t have an actual story at all, is ridiculous to the point of seeming like mere satirization of precisely the sort of exaggeration it actually is. And anyone who honestly thinks it’s the worst film of all time or even on the shortlist of contenders needs to see more films, apparently.

So intense has the bashing become, the press was caught up in the grip of flop fever. Despite Suicide Squad opening to record-breaking numbers, media reports focused on the Friday-Saturday drop as the most important part of the weekend performance. When it set a record for the biggest first Monday in August, the reports noted it was a larger percentage Sunday-Monday decline than a host of other films, ignoring the fact most of the comparisons were to movies opening in earlier summer months when weekday box office tends to be much higher or on holiday weekends where Mondays enjoyed an added boost from vacationers.

As it set new records later in the week, as its foreign numbers rolled in to record-breaking heights, the media simply couldn’t shake the feeling that the real story was all of the things that could go terribly wrong and sink the film. The potential implosion of the DCU became the talking point, rooted squarely in the negative professional critical reviews, and this negative narrative piggybacked on the existing media animosity toward Batman v Superman. For several days, the box office news continued to be rosy while the media played up any possible negative angle they could find. New reports of even worse supposed tensions and trouble with the film’s production surfaced, including the infamous “$800 million is the break-even point” claim.

So it is that we went from bad reviews to articles seeming to try to one-up each other in how badly they could malign the film and how extreme could be their claims about its lack of any artistic merit, and that led right into coverage that paid more attention to rumors and negative “what if the bottom falls out?” scenarios than the actual numbers coming in day after day.

PATHETIC!!

[YoungJRNYfan]

Black suited Superman; FTW!

[verslibre]

Black suited Superman; FTW!

[RedWingFan]

Hilarious!!
http://www.cosmicbooknews.com/content/w ... de-youtube

[Monker]

Also, don't make me remind you studios prefer front-loaded to "legs." The whole legs argument is bullshit (except for movies like The Dark Knight). The mo' money made in the first several weeks = the more the studio keeps.

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Whatever. When Suicide Squad debuted it was compared to GotG and beating its August records. There is no way it will equal its total gross now. It will be lucky to cross 500 million by any significant amount I would say a studio would like a movie to perform consistantly, like GotG, then have one big week and then fall off a cliff.

SS may be considered a 'success'..in the same way that Thor 2 or IM2 is a 'success". And, it does not seem to have the huge expectations of BvS. However, we are seeing a pattern here....a target audience excited to see a film. The film gets panned by critics. The audience shows up the first week...and has mixed reviews and no repeat business. That is what happened to both BvS and SS.

DC needs a big hit to break them through as a contender to Marvel. If it doesn't happen with Wonder Woman, I don't see how anybody can expect Justice League to do it either.

[RedWingFan]

Whatever. When Suicide Squad debuted it was compared to GotG and beating its August records.

You must have missed the previous post. If you don't include Suicide Squads Thursday night gross in it's OW numbers it had less of a 2nd weekend drop than Guardians had when you include Guardians Thursday night on opening weekend.

[verslibre]

Also, don't make me remind you studios prefer front-loaded to "legs." The whole legs argument is bullshit (except for movies like The Dark Knight). The mo' money made in the first several weeks = the more the studio keeps.

Whatever. When Suicide Squad debuted it was compared to GotG and beating its August records. There is no way it will equal its total gross now. It will be lucky to cross 500 million by any significant amount I would say a studio would like a movie to perform consistantly, like GotG, then have one big week and then fall off a cliff.

The further out movies play, the smaller the percentage the studio takes from theaters (and less from foreign markets than domestic). So front-loaded is where it's at.

I bet you didn't realize Squad has four more markets to open in, including Japan.

SS may be considered a 'success'..in the same way that Thor 2 or IM2 is a 'success". And, it does not seem to have the huge expectations of BvS. However, we are seeing a pattern here....a target audience excited to see a film. The film gets panned by critics. The audience shows up the first week...and has mixed reviews and no repeat business. That is what happened to both BvS and SS.

Look how desperate you sound. The film's barely been out for a week and a half. You continue to repeat yourself. Why don't we reconvene in 2-3 weeks and see how much it's made. Are you in danger of losing a bet? Are you going to lose a C-note if the film grosses 600 million WW?

DC needs a big hit to break them through as a contender to Marvel. If it doesn't happen with Wonder Woman, I don't see how anybody can expect Justice League to do it either.

Does all that sand around your head really feel that good? Do you know the first three DCEU films have grossed over 2 billion altogether? Marvel didn't accomplish that till Avengers.

Wonder Woman will do very well.

Justice League is coming out two weeks after Thor: Ragnarok, so the latter will have two whole weeks to make some money before a movie that again features Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman — plus Aquaman, Flash and Cyborg — arrives to clean up at the box office. That's going to be something.

[RedWingFan]

F*ck em (WB) - Jared Leto
http://www.cosmicbooknews.com/content/j ... -says-f-em

[YoungJRNYfan]

Suicide Squad Box Office still strong: $6.25M TUE for #SuicideSquad, up 25% from MON. $233.9M cume. Shd break $250M SAT & be at about $263M after 3rd wknd. $300M still possible.

$300 mil DOM for SSQuad still in play.

[YoungJRNYfan]

F*ck em (WB) - Jared Leto
http://www.cosmicbooknews.com/content/j ... -says-f-em

That's Leto being Leto, lol. Dudes cooky. If you read, though and if people get the facts right, he was talking more about his Joker contract of WB not allowing him to ROCK CLIMB. Fact of the matter is, SSQuad wasn't a Joker movie and if he watch's it, it still sets up a lot in the DCEU. Affleck's 'The Batman' I'm sure will be heavy on Joker, especially since Harley Quinn and Mistah J killed Robin. There's bigger roles to be had. I know one thing, Margot Robbie isn't upset. That chick set it ON FIAAA.

[YoungJRNYfan]

New rumors; take with a GRAIN OF pepper:

DC MOVIE RUMORS INCLUDES J.J ABRAMS FOR MAN OF STEEL 2
http://www.cosmicbooknews.com/content/n ... an-steel-2

1. JJ Abrams, Edgar Wright, Doug Liman- Man of Steel 2
2.- Sam Raimi, Shawn Levy- Shazam
3.- George Miller- New Gods
4.- Alfonso Cuarón- Green Lantern Corps.
5. Patty Jenkins- Justice League II
6. David Ayer- Suicide Squad 2

Rumored DC slate:
Wonder Woman- June 2nd, 2017
Justice League- November 17th, 2017
The Flash- April 13th, 2018
Aquaman- July 27th, 2018
Man of Steel 2- October 5th, 2018
Shazam- April 5th, 2019
Batman- June 14th, 2019
Suicide Squad 2- November 1st, 2019
New Gods- April 3rd, 2020
Green Lantern Corps- July 24th, 2020
Justice League II- October 2nd, 2020

[verslibre]

New rumors; take with a GRAIN OF pepper:

DC MOVIE RUMORS INCLUDES J.J ABRAMS FOR MAN OF STEEL 2
http://www.cosmicbooknews.com/content/new-batch-dc-movie-rumors-includes-jj-abrams-man-steel-2
1. JJ Abrams, Edgar Wright, Doug Liman- Man of Steel 2

Edgar Wright? It'll never get done. JJ's overrated, but people like him. I'd rather see Matt Reeves get the gig. I think he'd do well with a project like that.

2.- Sam Raimi, Shawn Levy- Shazam

Interesting.

3.- George Miller- New Gods

As much as I'd LOVE for this to happen...I won't hold my breath. Miller directing New Gods =

4.- Alfonso Cuarón- Green Lantern Corps.

That would be interesting. But maybe JJ would be better-suited for this kind of movie.

5. Patty Jenkins- Justice League II
6. David Ayer- Suicide Squad 2

Yay!

[verslibre]

[YoungJRNYfan]

George Miller is still a damn Enigma to the DCEU thus far. He's listed as a producer on JL and he confirmed that he has met with WB to talk about DC films. All eyes are still on Miller in what project he'd take IF he decides to join.

The only reason why I think the J.J Abrams rumors for Superman COULD BE true is that he was seconds away from directing Suoerman: Flyby and he did an interview on how some of his script made it in to Man of Steel itself so if Abrams does ponder it, it would be an easy lateral move to get involved in the Man of Steel world because most of it he's familiar with and he can take it from there.

Also, him and Zack Snyder had a friendly back and forth all summer trying to out-do each other with Batman V Superman and Star Wars parodies on their sets. It was fun banter, but the two showed interaction and friendlieness. That's big when it comes to compadre on connected films.

[verslibre]

I wonder what's in there of Abram's, considering Zack and David Goyer have taken so much heat for it. Whatever, I love that flick. It erased Singer's flaccid attempt.

But, damn. Miller on New Gods. That would be a wet dream come true.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Audience Reaction - Suicide Squad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxZ5bshfUv4

^People having a blast.

[YoungJRNYfan]

I wonder what's in there of Abram's, considering Zack and David Goyer have taken so much heat for it. Whatever, I love that flick. It erased Singer's flaccid attempt.

J.J. Abrams Compares His ‘Superman: Flyby’ Script to ‘Man of Steel’

“The thing that I tried to emphasize in the story was that if the Kents found this boy, Kal-El, who had the power that he did, he would have most likely killed them both in short order. And the idea that these parents would see – if they were lucky to survive long enough – that they had to immediately begin teaching this kid to limit himself and to not be so fast, not be so strong, not be so powerful.

The result of that, psychologically, would be fear of oneself, self-doubt and being ashamed of what you were capable of. Extrapolating that to adulthood became a fascinating psychological profile of someone who was not pretending to be Clark Kent, but who was Clark Kent. Who had become that kind of a character who is not able or willing to accept who he was and what his destiny was.

The idea in the movie was that he became Superman because he realized he had to finally own his strength and what he’d always been. I don’t know if that’s what Zack and Chris [Nolan] are doing, but it looks like that’s part of the idea and I could not be more thrilled to see that movie. That to me was always the way to go.”

http://screenrant.com/jj-abrams-superma ... man-steel/

I'm going to have to skim over Abram's script for Flyby again. I remember some CRAZY shit in there...shit that wouldn't fly in comparison to Snyder/Goyer's take. Can't remember if any scenes were pulled straight from Abrams' script and into Snyder's but it seems like they went with the same direction for Supes so it would have been interesting to see how Flyby would have been accepted. Also, Henry Cavill was the pick for Superman for Flyby so there's another connection before it got scrapped for Returns.

But, damn. Miller on New Gods. That would be a wet dream come true.

I can't even IMAGINE what a Miller New Gods movie would look like. I don't even want to, really from the sheer face-melting in my theater seat if it were ever to happen. Longshot, but DAMN!

[YoungJRNYfan]

[YoungJRNYfan]

Mark Hughes from Forbes is beyond brilliant. This well thought out article deserves atleast one read-through. So much knowledge and teachings to what really is going on to those who take things only at face value.

Suicide Squad dominates despite media gloom and doom:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/ ... cfe7367da7

EDIT: Sorry, v! I thought I saw this somewhere before. Damn eyes are crossing from so many sites lately lol.

[verslibre]

No prob, mon! Mark lays it all out. It just helps to further explose the bandwagon-clinging nonsense that we've pointed out myriad times on here.

[YoungJRNYfan]

SSQUAD just passed $500 million dollars WW ($509) and has great international legs AND weekday domestic legs. On its second wednesday, BvS did $2.8m. SSQUAD just did $4.1 million so it's holding much better than BvS. Domestic total now at $238 mil. SSQUAD still has yet to open in Japan (September 18th.) Not shabby!


‘Suicide Squad’ Shoots Past $500M At Worldwide Box Office
http://deadline.com/2016/08/suicide-squ ... 201805484/

[YoungJRNYfan]

Keep chuggin', SQUAD! Lets see if it holds off all the 80% RT reviewed movies:

BOX OFFICE: SUICIDE SQUAD Expected To Remain At #1 For Third Week In A Row Topping BEN-HUR And More
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/suicide_s ... in-a144633

[YoungJRNYfan]

Mark Hughes from FORBES:

Well those #SuicideSquad numbers today ($509M as of Wednesday) certainly make it obvious that it'll go well beyond $600M even w/o China.