Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

[verslibre]

I hear yah! I did so mother-fucking well with Man of Steel that I made myself sick...only to break down within' the last 2 minutes of the 4th quarter! I mean, I watched trailer #3 and felt I was in pretty good shape, even with the T.V spots popping up every day, vivaciously haunting me. I was literally days away from the premier and I broke down and did the "Nah, it'll be safe to look here. Just one peak!" That's where I found the Supes breaks Zod's neck scene and the huge debate going on within' itself. I fucked my own A on that one!

Aw, fukk, they put that in the final trailer? What a bunch of jassholes! That makes the fourth trailer I know of with a massive spoiler tossed in:

Prometheus – Engineer's craft exploding (saw the trailer, unfortunately)
Avengers - Hulk catching Iron Man in freefall (ditto)
Man of Steel - Zod neck snap
X-Men: Days of Future Past - Magneto levitating downward with the Mark I Sentinels in tow (pretty much an Avengers trailer-level spoiler for me)

Btw, I only watched the teaser and first full TDKR trailer in the theater, and that was plenty.

True...I know this BUT I'm not going to lie. I kinda wish it was true you had an Adam West; Batcave in your basement. That would totally be awesome

I'd have to have a basement first. They don't build them in a quake zone.

[verslibre]

[YoungJRNYfan]

Aw, fukk, they put that in the final trailer? What a bunch of jassholes! That makes the fourth trailer I know of with a massive spoiler tossed in:

Prometheus – Engineer's craft exploding (saw the trailer, unfortunately)
Avengers - Hulk catching Iron Man in freefall (ditto)
Man of Steel - Zod neck snap
X-Men: Days of Future Past - Magneto levitating downward with the Mark I Sentinels in tow (pretty much an Avengers trailer-level spoiler for me)

Btw, I only watched the teaser and first full TDKR trailer in the theater, and that was plenty.

Haha no man! I take it you still didn't see trailer #3? I remember you not watching that one. I read the spoiler of the necksnap on superherohype in the spoiler forum. I mean, what could I have POSSIBLY seen in a SPOILER thread? I'm an idiot.

[YoungJRNYfan]

This is one of my favorite ones:



Though, the Aquaman is a WIN lol.

[verslibre]

What do you think of this f-ed up mess stemming from the Sony hack?

Looks like that Robinov guy (who prevented WB from developing a Justice League movie years ago) is trying to prevent a Sony/Disney crossover. The hacked emails revealed a proposal to reboot the Spidey franchise AGAIN and that Garfield may have already been canned.

Wow.

[verslibre]

Haha no man! I take it you still didn't see trailer #3?

You know, I saw a piece of it. I recall Batman making the jump on the freeway (on the Batpod) and the Batwing dodging missiles and thinking "Too badass...gotta get over there!"

[The_Noble_Cause]

What do you think of this f-ed up mess stemming from the Sony hack?

I think the Sony execs are fucking high. Merging the 21 Jump Street franchise with Men In Black? Wtf. And the new Bond movie sounds horrible.

[verslibre]

And the new Bond movie sounds horrible.

Is it that bad? Seems like SPECTRE would be the next place they'd go. Or Goldmember.

[No Surprize]

Guardians succeeded for one reason. It stole Farscape's formulae:

Monk, I agree with this. I usually like writer/director James Gunn (Slither, Dawn of the Dead remake), but I feel he totally ripped off Farscape with Guardians. The non-stop pop cultural references from Starlord were EXACTLY like Crichton's character. And it didn't even make sense. Starlord was abducted as a very young child from earth, so why would he have this never-ending supply of current and relevant American witticisms? Overall, I thought Guardians was smug and too clever by half. Didn't get the big deal. Reminded me of The Lego movie.

On another note...saw Exodus last night. Nothing groundbreaking, but a typically solid Ridley Scott movie. I enjoyed it. And hey, at least it wasn't 4 hours long like the Charlton Heston version!

Why do you have to over analyze a fucking movie. Their ALL mindless entertainment. Hell, I don't need and in depth analogy of every character and what, why, where, when, how they came to be and could care less. It flowed. It had action. It made me laugh. It made me go wow. Go watch a fucking Woody Allen movie for God's sake. Critique away.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Guardians succeeded for one reason. It stole Farscape's formulae:

Monk, I agree with this. I usually like writer/director James Gunn (Slither, Dawn of the Dead remake), but I feel he totally ripped off Farscape with Guardians. The non-stop pop cultural references from Starlord were EXACTLY like Crichton's character. And it didn't even make sense. Starlord was abducted as a very young child from earth, so why would he have this never-ending supply of current and relevant American witticisms? Overall, I thought Guardians was smug and too clever by half. Didn't get the big deal. Reminded me of The Lego movie.

On another note...saw Exodus last night. Nothing groundbreaking, but a typically solid Ridley Scott movie. I enjoyed it. And hey, at least it wasn't 4 hours long like the Charlton Heston version!

Why do you have to over analyze a fucking movie. Their ALL mindless entertainment. Hell, I don't need and in depth analogy of every character and what, why, where, when, how they came to be and could care less. It flowed. It had action. It made me laugh. It made me go wow. Go watch a fucking Woody Allen movie for God's sake. Critique away.

Dude, it's TNC I'm just going to start calling him the Macho Man. He's just the MADNESS OOHH YAAaaAAA!!

[The_Noble_Cause]

Why do you have to over analyze a fucking movie.

In other words, you liked GOTG and I didn't. Boo-hoo. The world is full of different opinions, and apparently you can't deal. I thought the movie sucked ass! To me, Rocket Raccoon was an intergalactic version of Cartman only minus the wit.

Hell, I don't need and in depth analogy of every character and what, why, where, when, how they came to be and could care less. It flowed. It had action. It made me laugh.

Good for you, bro! As Monker pointed out, GOTG was extremely derivative of the premise and attitude of the cancelled TV show, Farscape. The fact that few have picked up on this, speaks more for the obscurity of Farscape than it does for Gunn being a hack or anything else.

Go watch a fucking Woody Allen movie for God's sake. Critique away.

I'm not sure what's worse; the fact that you think nobody is entitled to their own opinions or that you are clearly incapable of defending your own.

[The_Noble_Cause]

And the new Bond movie sounds horrible.

Is it that bad? Seems like SPECTRE would be the next place they'd go. Or Goldmember.

Y'know what, I don't want to spoil anything...but at the end of each recent film, from Casino to Skyfall, the filmmakers seem to hint at Craig-Bond fully becoming the Bond we know and going off on some Connery-style escapist adventure in the next film. But Spectre's script is more of the same melodramatic "this time it's personal business", and the ret-con used to tie all three movies together (Casino, Quantum, Skyfall) is just ludicrous. I really think the Fleming well is bare and they are out of ideas.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Christ, it's already starting. People going crazy with false stories about the "teaser" shown before the Hobbit. It doesn't exist, but that won't stop people from buying into the endless rumors and click bait by those claiming a teaser exists. This is going to be a long ride to March '16.

[verslibre]

Christ, it's already starting. People going crazy with false stories about the "teaser" shown before the Hobbit. It doesn't exist, but that won't stop people from buying into the endless rumors and click bait by those claiming a teaser exists. This is going to be a long ride to March '16.

Bummer. I thought there would be a glimpse of something before then. Or maybe we'll get a full-on trailer in March. That would be nice.

[YoungJRNYfan]

February or March, v. Bank on it. It's simply WAY too early but when marketing starts, it'll be insane so just...brace yourself haha.

[verslibre]

Superman was zipping through the sky when he flew near Wonder Woman's invisible plane. He got closer and saw Wondy inside, on her back and naked with her legs spread.

Superman thought, "What if I use my super-speed and knock one out — she'll never know it was me!"

So Superman flew in like only he can and banged one out in milliseconds and was gone without a trace.

Wonder Woman asked "What the HELL was that?!"

The Invisible Man went "I don't know but my ASS hurts like HELL!!!"

[The_Noble_Cause]

Saw the last Hobbit. All I can say is, P. Jackson has done himself no favors with this prequel trilogy. From the start, Tolkien fans said there wasn't enough material for three films, and they have been absolutely vindicated. Some enjoyable moments, but a ton of misguided head scratching creative choices (elf-on-dwarf romance subplot?). How can Ridley Scott tell the story of Moses in a succinct two hours, but Jackson needs nearly 12 for The Hobbit? Hollywood greed at its worst.

[verslibre]

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2014/12/23/amy-adams-reacts-to-seeing-wonder-woman-costume-for-first-time/

[verslibre]

Saw the last Hobbit. All I can say is, P. Jackson has done himself no favors with this prequel trilogy. From the start, Tolkien fans said there wasn't enough material for three films, and they have been absolutely vindicated. Some enjoyable moments, but a ton of misguided head scratching creative choices (elf-on-dwarf romance subplot?). How can Ridley Scott tell the story of Moses in a succinct two hours, but Jackson needs nearly 12 for The Hobbit? Hollywood greed at its worst.

Dude, Robert Rodriguez is remaking Fire and Ice as an R-rated live actioner. That's what I'm excited about. Enough with hobbits and gnomes and dwarves and pixies and all that.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Stop what you're doing....and watch this:

Marvel VS DC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KxIHVGch8I#t=193

[Monker]

Saw the last Hobbit. All I can say is, P. Jackson has done himself no favors with this prequel trilogy. From the start, Tolkien fans said there wasn't enough material for three films, and they have been absolutely vindicated. Some enjoyable moments, but a ton of misguided head scratching creative choices (elf-on-dwarf romance subplot?). How can Ridley Scott tell the story of Moses in a succinct two hours, but Jackson needs nearly 12 for The Hobbit? Hollywood greed at its worst.

The entire romance thing should have been cut because it did not advance the story at all. If 30mins had been cut from each film, they would have been better. I also don't agree with the idea of trying to connect The Hobbit directly into LOTR. If I remember right, LOTR was really a rewriting of the Hobbit...to make it more of an "adult" story, to advance his ambitions of creating an English mythology, and an outlet for his ideas about language. So, since it was a rewrite, the Ring becomes what the Arkenstone was in the Hobbit. Trying to connect the two stories is confusing because of this. If the Ring is some type of all powerfull, soul corrupting thing, why does the Arkenstone have the EXACT SAME EFFECT? It's because they both have their roots in ideas in other stories like Beowulf, Norse mythology (where "Middle Earth" and elves came from), and other Nordic tales. Tolkien was wise to make the only real connection the Ring itself...he even started his heroes completely over with Frodo (instead of Bilbo), The rest of the storyline is the same...

A fellowship sets out on an adventure with a lowly Hobbit. The lowly Hobbit follows the "Heroes Journey" and matures and is able to perform heroic acts. The already 'mature' hero characters have to struggle with temptation, corruption, and greed...some fail, and some overcome and prove themselves.

If you start discecting, you'll see The Hobbit and LOTR have a core story that is almost exactly the same.

[Monker]

Saw the last Hobbit. All I can say is, P. Jackson has done himself no favors with this prequel trilogy. From the start, Tolkien fans said there wasn't enough material for three films, and they have been absolutely vindicated. Some enjoyable moments, but a ton of misguided head scratching creative choices (elf-on-dwarf romance subplot?). How can Ridley Scott tell the story of Moses in a succinct two hours, but Jackson needs nearly 12 for The Hobbit? Hollywood greed at its worst.

Dude, Robert Rodriguez is remaking Fire and Ice as an R-rated live actioner. That's what I'm excited about. Enough with hobbits and gnomes and dwarves and pixies and all that.

Meh. I'd rather see a remake of Excalibur.

[verslibre]

Meh. I'd rather see a remake of Excalibur.

Why? Nothing wrong with the 1981 film, unless you want to see it redone with CGI and guys who overact. And Benedict Cumberbatch, because that dude is everywhere.

My point was I'd like to see more REH-type sword & sorcery. Plenty of "knights in shining armor" out there...

[verslibre]

Here there be spoilers...beware...

Saw the last Hobbit. All I can say is, P. Jackson has done himself no favors with this prequel trilogy. From the start, Tolkien fans said there wasn't enough material for three films, and they have been absolutely vindicated. Some enjoyable moments, but a ton of misguided head scratching creative choices (elf-on-dwarf romance subplot?). How can Ridley Scott tell the story of Moses in a succinct two hours, but Jackson needs nearly 12 for The Hobbit? Hollywood greed at its worst.

The entire romance thing should have been cut because it did not advance the story at all. If 30mins had been cut from each film, they would have been better.

I just saw The Battle of Five Armies and it could have been cut by maybe 15 minutes, otherwise, it's fine. It's An Unexpected Journey that feels overlong. And yes, the elf-dwarf interspecies erotica (oh, wait, they never filmed a love scene, never mind) is a complete waste of space, time, and money. It just made no sense because no elf would EVER go for a dwarf. And Mr. "cute dwarf" cracks me up, because dwarves don't look like really short humans, they're stumpy, chunky and generally ugly.

I also don't agree with the idea of trying to connect The Hobbit directly into LOTR. If I remember right, LOTR was really a rewriting of the Hobbit...to make it more of an "adult" story, to advance his ambitions of creating an English mythology, and an outlet for his ideas about language. So, since it was a rewrite, the Ring becomes what the Arkenstone was in the Hobbit. Trying to connect the two stories is confusing because of this. If the Ring is some type of all powerfull, soul corrupting thing, why does the Arkenstone have the EXACT SAME EFFECT?

I agree. There's a direct connection from the end of trilogy to the beginning of another, and it doesn't make sense. One is a somewhat different version of the other, on a different scale. But we already know the whole reason we got a Hobbit trilogy instead of one movie, is dollar$. We had to wait to the second half of the second movie to see Smaug, who looked amazing, and the third movie is almost entirely an action film, which I didn't mind. I liked the showdown between Thorin and Azog.

If you start discecting, you'll see The Hobbit and LOTR have a core story that is almost exactly the same.

You don't even have to dissect. It's glaringly obvious. There's also a mondo loophole in LOTR that pretty much renders the entire journey pointless, and when you consider that, The Hobbit just comes off like a much cooler story. Sometimes less is more.

[verslibre]

Stop what you're doing....and watch this:

Marvel VS DC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KxIHVGch8I#t=193

That turned out better than I expected. Some really good editing in there. Deathstroke blowing away Deadpool (his copy/parody) was golden. Thor throwing his hammer into Supes...that was perfect. Well done. 2M+ views, too.

[YoungJRNYfan]

[The_Noble_Cause]

Dude, Robert Rodriguez is remaking Fire and Ice as an R-rated live actioner. That's what I'm excited about. Enough with hobbits and gnomes and dwarves and pixies and all that.

Yes, I am excited for this. I've always felt that Ralph's unfinished LOTR isn't nearly the disaster people make it out to be.

[The_Noble_Cause]

The entire romance thing should have been cut because it did not advance the story at all.

Not only that, but there is something just fundamentally WRONG with making some of the dwarves good looking. You would think that, at this point in his career, PJ would have enough clout to not bow to dumb studio pressures like that. They pretty much tried to make Thorin another version of Aragorn. To me, this is much closer in line with what Thorin should look like.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Saw 'Interstellar' last nite. Checked all the right boxes for me. Despite a third act with plot holes so big you could fly a fleet of Millennium Falcons through it, it's a great film. Def. in my top ten of the year. Towards the end, the movie goes from sci-fi into hokey Spielbergian emotional magic. But by then, the movie has earned the right to destroy your suspension of disbelief. I postponed seeing the film, but am glad I did. The hype was well deserved.

[YoungJRNYfan]

According to Latino Review's El Mayimbe (consider the source), Warner Bro's is planning on "going all out to top last year's Hall H presentation" at this year's DC Cinematic Universe panel at the San Diego Comic Con.